Post by: vyper on May 22, 2005, 10:35:16 am
Erm... Does anyone else find this odd?
[q]A re-enactment of the Battle of Trafalgar is not an opportunity for "French-bashing", says the Royal Navy.
Instead of the British taking on a French/Spanish fleet at next month's event to mark the battle's bicentenary a "red" force will take on a "blue".
Navy organisers fear visiting officials may be embarrassed at seeing their side beaten, The Sunday Times reported. [/q]
Why do I sense the hands of europhiles at play?
Post by: aldo_14 on May 22, 2005, 10:33:51 am
Post by: vyper on May 22, 2005, 10:37:43 am
Post by: Taristin on May 22, 2005, 10:36:56 am
Post by: Liberator on May 22, 2005, 10:51:12 am
The French/Spanish lost that battle. It's history. Dear God in Heaven save us from the PC cretins who would rewrite history so that nobody was ever effected negatively...
Post by: Taristin on May 22, 2005, 10:53:54 am
Post by: phreak on May 22, 2005, 10:56:29 am
Post by: Taristin on May 22, 2005, 10:59:22 am
Post by: phreak on May 22, 2005, 11:01:59 am
Post by: Taristin on May 22, 2005, 11:04:49 am
But it began (in Brittain's eyes) at Poland. No?
Post by: phreak on May 22, 2005, 11:06:18 am
Post by: Taristin on May 22, 2005, 11:07:21 am
Post by: Kie99 on May 22, 2005, 11:29:15 am
Post by: Bobboau on May 22, 2005, 11:35:10 am
Post by: Mongoose on May 22, 2005, 12:12:03 pm
Seriously though, PC freaks need to be strung up by their ankles so that they can actually get some blood flow to their brains. What's next: "Oh, the Holocaust wasn't genocide, it was a 'racial incident.'" **** like this makes me sick.
Post by: aldo_14 on May 22, 2005, 12:17:40 pm
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Originally posted by Raa
*throws stones at Aldo's perch*
Muwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha *cough* hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Alright, I'm done.
Post by: WMCoolmon on May 22, 2005, 12:44:04 pm
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Originally posted by Liberator
The French/Spanish lost that battle. It's history. Dear God in Heaven save us from the PC cretins who would rewrite history so that nobody was ever effected negatively...
Your forgot Poland.
Post by: Grey Wolf on May 22, 2005, 12:50:27 pm
Post by: aldo_14 on May 22, 2005, 01:30:23 pm
Post by: Rictor on May 22, 2005, 01:38:22 pm
Post by: NGTM-1R on May 22, 2005, 04:16:30 pm
Post by: FireCrack on May 22, 2005, 05:33:17 pm
Post by: phreak on May 22, 2005, 05:38:07 pm
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Originally posted by FireCrack
World war 2 was started when the green team and the red team attacked the blue team.
Shouldn't it be the grey team?
Post by: Ghost on May 22, 2005, 06:12:31 pm
Post by: Knight Templar on May 22, 2005, 06:21:51 pm
Post by: Kosh on May 22, 2005, 06:30:33 pm
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Originally posted by Raa
It's not called the Blitzkrieg anymore, it's now the 'Poland incident'...
The Blitzkrieg is the name of a strategy, not a particular invasion or battle.
Post by: Taristin on May 22, 2005, 06:38:28 pm
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Originally posted by Kosh
The Blitzkrieg is the name of a strategy, not a particular invasion or battle.
Thank you, captain obvious. What ever would I have done, had you not told me something I've learned seventy times over through out my schooling?! Really! thank you! You saved me from sounding like a total moron on the internet!!!
Post by: BlackDove on May 22, 2005, 06:57:40 pm
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Originally posted by Kosh
The Blitzkrieg is the name of a strategy, not a particular invasion or battle.
REALLY NOW?
I am the shock.
Post by: Kosh on May 22, 2005, 07:03:57 pm
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You saved me from sounding like a total moron on the internet!!!
I was too late to save Phreak. :D
Post by: phreak on May 22, 2005, 07:21:30 pm
Post by: achtung on May 22, 2005, 11:04:02 pm
Post by: vyper on May 23, 2005, 07:37:00 am
Post by: Clave on May 23, 2005, 08:02:52 am
Post by: vyper on May 23, 2005, 08:12:01 am
Post by: achtung on May 23, 2005, 06:58:19 pm
Post by: Kosh on May 23, 2005, 08:43:44 pm
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theyre just tryin to damn hard to satisfy everyone.
Is that REALLY such a bad thing in a democratic society?
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They need to understand you cant satisfy all of the people all of the time and thats a fact of life.
They do. They are simply trying to satisfy as many people as possible. As democratically elected officials, that is what they are supposed to do, right (at least in theory)?
Post by: Liberator on May 24, 2005, 12:26:20 am
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Originally posted by Kosh
Is that REALLY such a bad thing in a democratic society?
It is a statistical impossiblity to please a majority of a given population for any significant length of time. The only way to win is to do what needs to be done, whether it's politically advantageous or not. Much of Western Government has lost this knowledge.
They do. They are simply trying to satisfy as many people as possible. As democratically elected officials, that is what they are supposed to do, right (at least in theory)?No they are supposed to serve the "Public Good" as it applies to their position.
Post by: NGTM-1R on May 24, 2005, 12:57:11 am
"You can't please everyone."
"I think I speak for everyone when I say 'Fool, you'd better please us or we'll crush you!' "
Post by: FireCrack on May 24, 2005, 01:22:29 am
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Originally posted by PhReAk
Shouldn't it be the grey team?
I was thinking grey, but then i decided green would be better for game balance.
(I actualy thaught that, wow i play video games too much)
Post by: Flipside on May 24, 2005, 02:41:51 am
Ah well, PC will kill us all in the end :)
Post by: Nico on May 24, 2005, 05:38:23 am
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Originally posted by Flipside
Does the US Navy really think that there is't a French battle re-enactment society, and that they probably re-enact their victories of the UK?
There is not :doubt: What's the use in re-enacting stupid old battles just because you've won them? Ah sure, we could celebrate Marignan or Austerlitz, but what's the point, besides satisfying some stupid ego?
Typically british, if you pardon me :p
Post by: vyper on May 24, 2005, 07:08:26 am
Post by: aldo_14 on May 24, 2005, 07:24:43 am
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Originally posted by Nico
There is not :doubt: What's the use in re-enacting stupid old battles just because you've won them? Ah sure, we could celebrate Marignan or Austerlitz, but what's the point, besides satisfying some stupid ego?
Typically british, if you pardon me :p
*cough* *cough*
[q]
One event sponsor said: "Surely 200 years on we can afford to gloat a bit."
"Not even the French can try and get snooty about this."
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Post by: Clave on May 24, 2005, 07:35:09 am
On the subject of re-enactors:
The Batley Townswomen's Guild set to re-enact the battle of Pearl Harbor.
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/460000/images/_463071_pearl_harbor.jpg)
Post by: Nico on May 24, 2005, 07:55:32 am
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Originally posted by vyper
We produced Blair. You produced Chirac. I like neither but let's be honest you owe the world an apology more than us :p.
I prefer Chirac to Blair :p ( plus blair' is the short of an insult in french, so all the better :p )
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One of the guys here is a re-enactor - English Civil War mainly - he said the interest in France and Germany is HUGE - about 10x what it is in the UK.. and Napoleon is the one big hero, nevermind that he lost in the end, there were enough 'wins' to keep them happy...
That's bull. Nothing more to add to that :p ( sure we like Napoleon, but some before have done better than him, for exemple, making Britain French for 200 years :D -besides DeGaule is the most popular around here, not Napoleon ).
Post by: vyper on May 24, 2005, 07:59:06 am
I thought frenchmen's ideals stood for libery, quality and freedom? :p I wouldn't put Chirac on the winning side of a debate about that.
Post by: Nico on May 24, 2005, 08:09:57 am
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Originally posted by vyper
[q]I prefer Chirac to Blair [/q]
I thought frenchmen's ideals stood for libery, quality and freedom? :p I wouldn't put Chirac on the winning side of a debate about that.
Egality, not quality :p (quality sounds fascist too ~~ )
I'm not a socialist. Socialism brought us unemployement, debts and ****, and now they want to blame it on Chirac. I don't like Chirac much, mind you, but better off with him than the socialists like Jospin or Fabius. We've had some improvements with him, basically coz he took up Rafarin as a prime minister, and that poor guy is being used to do all the nasty job, so Chirac is about alright. But his popularity is still dropping, obviously. Rule 1 is that pleasing the people -> opposite of efficient running of a country. And French have way too many social aids and ****, they think everything is for granted, they go on strikes whenever there's no paper in the toilets, etc. Bah, I'm pretty sure our next president's gonna be Sarkozy, and he's gonna do some cleaning up, I hope.
So yeah, I prefer Chirac to that fake leftist that is Blair, who try mild right wing politics while being shy about it and, well, that just makes no sense. And you can't deny the fact that in the end, Chirac was bloody right to say "Us going to Irak? No way, go on your own!" :p
Post by: karajorma on May 24, 2005, 05:23:20 pm
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Originally posted by Nico
That's bull. Nothing more to add to that :p ( sure we like Napoleon, but some before have done better than him, for exemple, making Britain French for 200 years :D
Britain was never French. The Normans were vikings who kicked the **** out of the original French people in Normandy and settled there. :p
In fact apart from the vikings just about every invasion force that ever landed in Britain was the result of the French failing to put up a good enough fight :p
Post by: aldo_14 on May 24, 2005, 06:16:41 pm
The Anglo-Norman kings also declared war on France in the 100 years war after the French king seized their Normandy, etc, land (the Normans - the Kings of England - controlled half of France by then).
I think it's fair to say they weren't 'French' in the conventional sense, nor did they conquer Britain.