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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: DaBrain on May 24, 2005, 05:59:54 am

Title: Get BC Millennium for free
Post by: DaBrain on May 24, 2005, 05:59:54 am
Take a look here:

http://www.3000ad.com/downloads/bcm.shtml

I won't download it though. ;7

But still this is a nice idea... strange...
Title: Get BC Millennium for free
Post by: Turnsky on May 24, 2005, 06:12:06 am
hah!
Title: Get BC Millennium for free
Post by: Unknown Target on May 24, 2005, 06:40:35 am
Would you even want it for free?

I might get it just to look....maybe.
Title: Get BC Millennium for free
Post by: DaBrain on May 24, 2005, 06:43:38 am
I'll wait another year. Perhaps I'll get paid for playing then. ^^
Title: Get BC Millennium for free
Post by: aldo_14 on May 24, 2005, 07:25:22 am
Whoo!  Masochism for free!
Title: Get BC Millennium for free
Post by: Gai Daigoji on May 24, 2005, 07:59:55 am
I've heard bad things about the game, but may download for a quick try.
Title: Get BC Millennium for free
Post by: Taristin on May 24, 2005, 09:26:48 am
*refuses to touch it. Not even with a 10 Km long stick.*
Title: Get BC Millennium for free
Post by: Ghostavo on May 24, 2005, 09:29:11 am
Have any of you even played it? :doubt:
Title: Get BC Millennium for free
Post by: pyro-manic on May 24, 2005, 09:41:00 am
No, but it's reputation, and the reputation of it's creator is more than enough to dissuade most people around here....
Title: so so
Post by: Getter Robo G on May 24, 2005, 09:43:23 am
The jury is still out.

Pro... 4 years later damn thing finally runs...

Con... U know..

I took a look.. Interesting toys, now can anyone tell me how to open a .3d file?
Title: Re: Get BC Millennium for free
Post by: Black Wolf on May 24, 2005, 10:33:51 am
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Originally posted by DaBrain
Get BC Millennium for free  


That's too much to pay for it.
Title: Get BC Millennium for free
Post by: Inquisitor on May 24, 2005, 11:05:53 am
If you are into very intricate control and gameplay, you should try it.

If you haven't played it, and are bashing it because you don't like the guy, that's just dumb.

The people who like the game, LOVE the game. Personally, I thought it was cool, but I play games to relax, and this one made me work. I am a pretty smart guy, I can figure it out, but it's contrary to why I play (and make) games.

It's got alot of neat ideas. And now it doesn't cost anything for you to have an INFORMED opinion.

Then again, ignorance is bliss. I suppose you folks would have to go shoot yourselves if you actually enjoyed it.
Title: Get BC Millennium for free
Post by: aldo_14 on May 24, 2005, 11:36:43 am
If I enjoyed shooting myself, I probably would shoot myself.  Quite how I'd learn that I enjoyed shooting myself, is another matter.
Title: Get BC Millennium for free
Post by: NGTM-1R on May 24, 2005, 12:47:40 pm
If you enjoy the uberrealistic detail type of flight sim, like Falcon 4.0, you'd probably enjoy BC:M. If not for the insane micromanagement of it all, I would have. Even then I could have learned to like it, but the interface was just too slow to use. If I could be arsed to memorize all the shortcut keys (or you could pause the game and issue orders still), I'd still have it installed.
Title: Get BC Millennium for free
Post by: Inquisitor on May 24, 2005, 01:15:19 pm
Like I said, the people who like it, REALLY like it.

Seperate the art from the artist.

Then again, I am a fan of being informed, rather than rallying around a mob and parroting what other people say about something ;)
Title: Get BC Millennium for free
Post by: Primus on May 24, 2005, 01:27:21 pm
I once tried the Battlecruiser 3000AD and it was... Not that good. But I'll give this one a try too.
Title: Get BC Millennium for free
Post by: Axem on May 24, 2005, 05:31:20 pm
A long time ago, I tried some free version of the first one, and got bored of it.

So later he released another free one of Battlecruier 3000AD v2.whatever, got bored of that too. Plus it crashed a ton.

Got a friend to, erm... "lend" me a copy of BCM he "had" and uh, surprise, got bored of that too. And it ran like crap on my 1.3GHz machine when it worked fine on a 200MHz... yeah...

Got tired of the series and tried out Privateer and SE:Starfury, might not have been as expansive, but were a ton funner.

I like the idea of the game, but its just too overwhelming, I kept needing to pause the game and look through some help files to figure out how to do stuff. And if that didn't worked, I just kept pressing buttons until stuff happened. Some tutorial would've been nice since we all know how many actually read those manuals. ;)
Title: Get BC Millennium for free
Post by: TrashMan on May 25, 2005, 04:49:33 am
Doesn't look bad from the screens... the graphics isn'+t top-notch, but then again, it's not htat important.
Title: Get BC Millennium for free
Post by: DaBrain on May 25, 2005, 06:28:26 am
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Originally posted by Axem
I just kept pressing buttons until stuff happened.


:lol: :lol:  Damn.  :lol: :lol:
Title: Get BC Millennium for free
Post by: Axem on May 25, 2005, 06:35:46 am
No kidding. I was trying out all these combinations, and one of them seems to have been the self destruct, and well... it didn't work out so well.

But everytime after that, I when I got bored (or wanted to quit since saving didn't work or something) I self destructed for fun. I think I learnt how to stop the self destruct eventually, but it seems all the crew leaves and you were stuck on an abandoned ship.
Title: Get BC Millennium for free
Post by: Krackers87 on May 25, 2005, 09:08:50 am
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Originally posted by Inquisitor
If you are into very intricate control and gameplay, you should try it.

If you haven't played it, and are bashing it because you don't like the guy, that's just dumb.

The people who like the game, LOVE the game. Personally, I thought it was cool, but I play games to relax, and this one made me work. I am a pretty smart guy, I can figure it out, but it's contrary to why I play (and make) games.

It's got alot of neat ideas. And now it doesn't cost anything for you to have an INFORMED opinion.

Then again, ignorance is bliss. I suppose you folks would have to go shoot yourselves if you actually enjoyed it.


 No, i bought it (before i was aware of derek smart and his bad games) and it sucked the most incomprehensible amount of balls.

Ive bought this game called Outforce for a buck, NEW, and had way more fun. Plus, who the hell doesent have an index for a manual 120+ pages big?! Derek smart, thats who.
Title: Get BC Millennium for free
Post by: Gai Daigoji on May 25, 2005, 10:53:49 am
I downloaded it today, as a Games Designer myself I saw the possibilities of the title and wanted to give it a chance - maybe just maybe everything I had heard about Derek Smarts games could be wrong.

Boy was I wrong.

You install the game and are treated to a nice splash screen, I thought to myself upon seeing this "Hey, this may prove to be a good game" So I continued forward in my quest, again I was impressed (Hard to believe I know) you had access to crew members details, health information, craft information etc and I began to feel that I was infact in charge of a real crew with real issues/history etc.

You can choose upon many, many roles and races and again I to smile yet again - the guys hit it on the head, this is exactly the type of Space Command sim I've been looking for, vast Galaxy, multiple races, a massive war between Galcom (Galatic Command, the Human faction) and other races. I smiled again.

So were are all the problems I had read about? Were was all the falmes, crashes etc?

I was about to find out.

Once you've selected your role, taken a brief look at your crew, ship and weapons I got lost. Yes lost. There were so many menu's showing me so much information, but not once had I seen outside of my ship or been able to land on planets or look out into the depths of space - no I was looking at text upon text.

At the top of the menu was a button saying 'Logout' I didn't press this for the best part of an hour thinking it would exit the game, so I left it. After 30mins had passed I said "Screw it" and pressed the button to quit, low and behold I was presented with a 3d view of space and my ship.

"At last" I thought, "Now lets get going" So I was looking through a HUD that represented my Carriers field of vision. Taking a more careful look around I noticed I was close to Earth - what LOOKED like Earth. For a game that was re-released in what 2000? The graphics were, to put it mildly, crap.

I could still see the design lines runing through the globe of Earth and the little pixel marks of its creation - my God, I thought we were passed that day and age?

Then my world fell apart. Upon selected a NAV point to travel to, my game crashed. "Hmmm" I said as I loaded it up again. Selected the same NAV point, crashed again.

So I loaded up again and decided to choose the Mars NAV point - ok it worked. So there I was traveling along space, a tiny smile on my face as I put the graphic problems behind me and decided to give a second chance to the game.

But what happend, I hear you ask? Well what the hell do I do to select different weapons, or hail different craft or (Forgive me) shoot a damn civilian target!?

So I loaded up the confiq menu, and unlike most games, this one didn't explain a damn thing. Only gave you a set of keys to use for the most basic functions!

Hello!? I want to land on Mars and kill stuff, or vist a city like your product said I could. But no were on that confiq menu did it tell me the command shortcuts to landing or deploying combat craft.

Whats worse is that I was getting communications from different ships and people, and had no way to respond as I didn't know the commands.

Then it hit me, the HUD and most of the game was very very very badly designed. Nothing worked to the players advantage.

So after passing two hours, I quit and uninstalled the game. Derek Smart: I want the two hours of my life back.

This sort of game, Derek, is what gives us game developers a bad name and this sort of product is what makes people think that we've run out of ideas or dont know how to create user friendly products.

Derek, I'd advice you to rethink your job path.