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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Rictor on May 31, 2005, 12:18:41 pm
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http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050530/ap_on_he_me/fit_lunch_spying
MARIETTA, Ga. - As Garin Hughes picks through his school-lunch burrito and unidentifiable apple-pear dessert, he has a secret. Hidden underneath the eighth-grader's right leg is a chocolate cookie in shrink-wrapped plastic. That's for dessert. In the past, his parents had no clue when he bought a treat at school. Now, thanks to a new school-lunch monitoring system, they can check over the Internet and learn about that secret cookie.
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what's wrong with eating a cookie at lunch?
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you're being sarcastic...right?
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Dentists Cry out everywhere!!:p
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Well if all he has for lunch is cookies that's a problem, but if he eats his nasty burrito and nasty side dishes I think he's entitled to one cookie for merely surviving the rest of the meal.
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Way to miss the point. The point is that it's freaking ridiculous that parents want, and are given, this much control over their child's every action. There are already GPS devices in cell phones and what not, it seems that many parents consider their kid a piece of property, and the tech industry is more than happy to accomodate them.
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I'm saying parents shouldn't care if little Johnny has a cookie at lunch and therefore wouldn't want to control or monitor what he eats.
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I wouldn't get too worked up about it, the kids will eventually catch on and stock up from nearby stores etc. When the school realises that it's new system is actually reducing their income, they'll soon put a lid on it.
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lol. Sadly true Flipside.
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Eating cookies is counter-revolutionary... er, counter-patriotic, and subject to punishment for the sake of all our hard working peoples!
Da Comrade, I mean it. ;)
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Originally posted by Flipside
I wouldn't get too worked up about it, the kids will eventually catch on and stock up from nearby stores etc. When the school realises that it's new system is actually reducing their income, they'll soon put a lid on it.
Or they'll raise the prices of the normal healthy food, forcing parents to pay more.
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Wait a minute, how do they possible know little Garin has a cookie hidden anyway? Are they CCTV monitoring the canteen?
"Oh my God - he's got a cookie!"
"Let's roll!" *grabs nightstick*
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Are school dinners compulsory in American schools? If not then parents could simply take the time to buy their children healthy packed lunches. It's not hot, true, but then, at least here, most schools idea of healthy is 'We strained the grease out, what more do you want?'
LOL @ Vyper, Danger! Unexploded Cookie!
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Our school's refurbished canteen was sponsored by Irn Bru.
For those outside Scotland: http://www.irn-bru.co.uk/
Part of the staple diet of wegies for generations. Irn Bru - Made In Scotland, from Girders. ;)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irn_Bru
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LOL That stuff is tough to find in London, but I think Sharon knows most places now ;)
Come to think of it, I think DS should do the next Irn Bru advert ;)
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Originally posted by vyper
Wait a minute, how do they possible know little Garin has a cookie hidden anyway? Are they CCTV monitoring the canteen?
"Oh my God - he's got a cookie!"
"Let's roll!" *grabs nightstick*
rofl.
I'd love to see a little animation for that.
Beats the crap outa the kid. Looks like another future is secure. Child is wheeled away in ambulence in background.
Lol.
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That's just messed up. It's just another step forward for the health nuts; a lot of public school districts in the US have already banned "unhealthy" junk food and soft drinks. It's ridiculous; are you telling me that high school and middle school students don't know that the food they eat isn't the healthiest? I can speak for myself: I don't give a damn if my meals are "unhealthy." You only live once, and I'd rather live 75 years while eating fast food than 115 while eating cottage cheese and celery. :p
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Originally posted by Mongoose
That's just messed up. It's just another step forward for the health nuts; a lot of public school districts in the US have already banned "unhealthy" junk food and soft drinks. It's ridiculous; are you telling me that high school and middle school students don't know that the food they eat isn't the healthiest? I can speak for myself: I don't give a damn if my meals are "unhealthy." You only live once, and I'd rather live 75 years while eating fast food than 115 while eating cottage cheese and celery. :p
Well put
Mary Carol Eddleman looked into what her daughter at a Hoschton middle school was buying and found she was getting an extra 12-ounce can of juice each day, even when a four-ounce bottle of juice came with lunch.
"That's about 150 extra calories a day. It's one thing if she did it occasionally, but she was getting in the habit of buying it every single day on top of lunch because her friends are drinking it," Eddleman said. "They drink it down like a Coke."
wtf? 150 extra calories? that's not really alot. And the drinking it down like a coke, isn't juice better (or at least not as bad as) coke/pop even if the juice is just water, sugar and flavouring?
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The problem with obesity is not, and never will be, based at school, most schools already provide a moderately healthy supply of food, with, of course, some gunk included, but they're kids ffs!
Letting parents spy on the kids won't help, all that does is increase the 'Big Brother' situation. And yes, the 'They drink it down like a coke' shows exactly what the problem is. Because everyone drinks coke, it can't be bad for you, can it? Remember, our local Coke factory not only sells the stuff, but uses it for cleaning the engines on the delivery vans, and a very good job it does too!
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Of course things were tougher in the old days, the school food was terrible, and the bullying intense, you had to ask permission to breathe out after 5pm and the Tuck Shop was always empty. I ran away, but got caught after 30 miles by the school leopard...
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Yeah, the cage was a pain, 3 days just for truant, you had to eat the scraps left over from feeding the leopard, and then I'd get home and my Dad would beat me to within an inch of my life, laughing the whole time...... ;)
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Glasgow seems to have the right solution - they bribe the kids. Eat enough healthy stuffed pita breads, and they can get an X-box or iPod. This is on top of the general uk-wide government initiative to pay them for staying on at school past the leaving age.
Rich wee bastards.
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Originally posted by Flipside
Yeah, the cage was a pain, 3 days just for truant, you had to eat the scraps left over from feeding the leopard, and then I'd get home and my Dad would beat me to within an inch of my life, laughing the whole time...... ;)
You had a house? You were lucky. Me and my brother, we lived in 4 cardboard boxes by the side of an active volcano, eating cold magma for breakfast. We'd get up every day for the 25 mile run to school, where we'd be whipped with the cat o' nine tails for turning up tired. And then we'd go home, where we'd be flogged by a fat belgian monk named Maurice.
Aye, twas better in those days. Nowadays kids don't know what life is.
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Originally posted by Flipside
Remember, our local Coke factory not only sells the stuff, but uses it for cleaning the engines on the delivery vans, and a very good job it does too!
:wtf: How the hell does that work?
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They used it like Redex (called 'Start, You Bastard' in Australia - best product name ever), basically, you mixed it with a little petrol and put it through the engines, if you saw how quickly it can clear Carbon from Engines, you'd think twice about what it does to your guts ;)
Oh, and for that Australian version of Redex - http://www.nulon.com.au/prod_SYB.htm
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Wait a minute, how do they possible know little Garin has a cookie hidden anyway? Are they CCTV monitoring the canteen?
Actually, I've heard that some schools actually do have TV cameras around school so that parents can check up on their children over the internet. I've never seen any proof of it though, aside from a couple webcams at a college/uni, but I can believe it.
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So, this means public education is trying to pay more attention to a single damned cookie while they could be paying for, oh, I don't know, paying more attention to kids who bring in guns and knives? :rolleyes:
American public education --> Crap. And not just because of NCLB™.
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Originally posted by Rictor
Way to miss the point. The point is that it's freaking ridiculous that parents want, and are given, this much control over their child's every action. There are already GPS devices in cell phones and what not, it seems that many parents consider their kid a piece of property, and the tech industry is more than happy to accomodate them.
Well considering that parents are responcible for the childrens well being, they should have as much control as they want. As for the tech industry, can you blame them for responding to a niche in the market and satisfying that need? I wouldn't blame companies for providing what there is a demand for.
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Originally posted by nuclear1
So, this means public education is trying to pay more attention to a single damned cookie while they could be paying for, oh, I don't know, paying more attention to kids who bring in guns and knives? :rolleyes:
American public education --> Crap. And not just because of NCLB™.
My town just voted on a education budget that will add a hi-tech surveillance system to the high school and 24-hour security guards to monitor the system. That money could've been used to fund actual programs instead, or the budget could've been rejected to keep property taxes from going even higher. >.<
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Originally posted by Flipside
They used it like Redex (called 'Start, You Bastard' in Australia - best product name ever), basically, you mixed it with a little petrol and put it through the engines, if you saw how quickly it can clear Carbon from Engines, you'd think twice about what it does to your guts ;)
Oh, and for that Australian version of Redex - http://www.nulon.com.au/prod_SYB.htm
That.
Is awesome. :lol:
A shame some local ****head would claim to be offended by such a product name in the US. :doubt:
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I'm glad I live in the middle of nowhere, there are still people around here that don't even know what the internet is (really old people of course)although my school has plenty of good pc's only a hadnfull of the teachers know how to use them so their having student work programs to assist the reachers. Gradeschools are closing left and right in my area which is rediculous.
All I can say about the situation with the parents being overbearing on their children is that it will only incite more rebellious behavior. I mean parents and their kids are actually starting to fist fight over the "Big Brother" factor in the kids lives.
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People swore up and down that there were cameras at my high school.
People are idiots. In Construction we built one of the bungalow classrooms and I did some of the work installing what they were swearing was a camera. It was a motion detector for the lights, so they'd turn off if there was nobody in the classroom.
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In High School last year, we got a new principal. You know, one of those dictators that don't listen to reason.
Anyway, we have a big arts thing and students get their artwork displayed in the hallways. Most of it is pretty cool. So one piece gets stolen (this is the only time I could remember in 3 years) and the administrations response? Install cameras everywhere.
Their excuse was it was going to discourage locker theft. Then they reassured us in saying that they would only look at the tapes if there was an incident. Of course they failed to mention those monitors in the office playing the live feed that you could plainly see when you walked in.
:rolleyes:
ngtm1r: Heh. Supposedly there was this hidden camera in the Computer Lab since forever (which makes sense there), and the students always tried to guess where it was. One kid thought it was the motion dectector for the lights. So one class he put this piece of paper over it. Our teacher decided to have some fun and got one of the vice-principals to come in and take the paper, then just leave, obviously showing that something was there. He's still convinced that there is a camera there.
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Heh. Hidden cameras...
There are cameras ALL over my school, but none of them are really hidden. I really don't mind, especially since I doubt that anyone looks at them normally. I think they are only looked at if something major happens... Which hasn't yet...