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Modding, Mission Design, and Coding => The Modding Workshop => Topic started by: Boomer on June 05, 2005, 11:38:11 am
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I know the canon crazies are going to kill me... :nervous:
I was cruising around the tech database when I noticed something about the entries for\referring to the Leviathan. No entry specifes that the Leviathan is a direct offshoot of the Fenris class.
That said, isn't it hypothetically possible that the Leviathan could be a completely seperate model of cruiser than the Fenris?
Please don't kill me...
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HERETIC!
He's onto us. KILL HIM!!
*Cough* That said, it is. It's in the FS1 database, if I remember correctly (Which is unlikely).
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Yep. Don't have FS1 installed but I do have the port.
"After the Vasudans began making incursions into GTA space, command decided that it needed a new defensive cruiser. Changes to the Fenris led to the GTC Leviathan line of cruisers, produced as mobile defense battleships. Their speed and maneuverability were greatly reduced in tradeoff for more powerful weapons and a stronger hull. Production was discontinued when the GTA thought they would win the Vasudan war after the Battle of Gulnara, and then the production was started up again after the defeat at the Talania system. Because of the on-again off-again nature of this vessel's production, almost all of the Leviathan Cruisers have different armaments, but all have consistent hulls and speeds.
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Ahh, son of a...
That's what I get for not remembering to reinstall FS1 so I could check the entry...
*Grumbles* Bloody GTA Record keepers. Why couldn't they conveniently lose that one?
You've got to admit though, it would certainly be an interesting project to undertake.
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You could always just make a new heavy cruiser....
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BTW this really should be in Gen. Freespace rather than here.
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I thought it would fit because I have the prelim model for it.
Hold on while I get some pics...
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y270/Salawat/NC04.jpg)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y270/Salawat/NC03.jpg)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y270/Salawat/NC02.jpg)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y270/Salawat/NC01.jpg)
I resurrected the base model from one of aldo's modeldumps, cleaned it up, added a little of my touch, and resulted with that seen here. Just need to add the turrets and textures and it'll be done.
Comments? Expressions of awe toward my greatness?;)
P.S. Aldo, if you read this, you've got to clean up your models man, those duplicate vertices are a #$%^& to work with.
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Time to buy a bigger hard disk ;)
Interesting model. Not quite sure if I like it or not yet. My immediate impression is that it's too symmetrical - left to right and top to bottom (at least in the middle). Try changing the central superstructure so that the top and bottom are different.
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Oy. It's been tormenting me. My D: drive is my backup partition which I have protected. My computer refuses to acknowledge it.
Hmmm. Asymmetricize. Hold on.
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Okay, how's this?
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y270/Salawat/NCX1.jpg)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y270/Salawat/NCX.jpg)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y270/Salawat/NCX2.jpg)
Any better?
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Looks like a whale. Is that intentional?
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I like that better. :) Now add some details - specifically to the engine pod and the "joining" parts that link the bow, middle and engine together - it screams "six-sided cylinder" at the moment. Try adding some ribs or beams or something. Nothing too drastic, just slight extrusions along the length or around them. Also some armour plates, some observation decks or docking ports and the like. This could be a nice cruiser if you get it finished....
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I don't think I can accept it as a Levy, though... Sorry.
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Looks like a whale. Is that intentional?
No, honestly not. Just began fiddling around with it and well, that's what came out.
I don't think I can accept it as a Levy, though... Sorry.
Nor can I. Should have checked that bloody FS1 entry.
I was thinking of making it into a middle-ground cruiser. Good for strikes, but can also kick ass in a defensive role.
I know I have to turret and texture, but anyone have any name suggestions?
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Hell, pick something: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_gods
Also look at Roman and Norse names, as well as looking through the list of Royal Navy ship names. There are literally hundreds to choose from. Just pick something that sounds good and hasn't been used before. :)
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Thanks pyro.
BTW, I'm working on adding some more detail. Once Blender stops crashing, I'll post some screenies.
[EDIT] Thanks pyro. got a name. The GTC Arethusa.
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Can I just make a suggestion? How about, rather than a ship that excells on both offensive and defensive, why not make it balanced, and give it a weakness in one type of combat and a strength in another? ;)
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greek gods - cant it just be greek words i got off of AOM?
shotgun Toxotes :)
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Hey Boomer, have you ever seen THIS (http://www.lares.dti.ne.jp/~hamano/FS/tico01.htm) ship before?
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It looks too....lumpy, imo.
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Can I just make a suggestion? How about, rather than a ship that excells on both offensive and defensive, why not make it balanced, and give it a weakness in one type of combat and a strength in another?
Raa, I haven't come up with the loadout yet, but I think the primary role of the cruiser will be determined then. I just like to build well-rounded, versatile models to keep my options open. When I say I want an all around cruiser, I mean design wise, not weapon wise.
All though, a doomsday ship might come in handy...:drevil:
*Imperial March plays in background*
Hey Boomer, have you ever seen THIS ship before?
Yes I have, and I still have not the slightest clue what purpose the designer had in mind.:wtf:
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Originally posted by Boomer
P.S. Aldo, if you read this, you've got to clean up your models man, those duplicate vertices are a #$%^& to work with.
That's because you're working with a 3ds file imported into TS by the looks of it; 3ds files don't, IIRC, allow multiple UV-co-ordinates for a vertice, so they split the model into submodel elements for each UV plane.
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Originally posted by Boomer
All though, a doomsday ship might come in handy...:drevil:
No :p Everyone always make them, and they rarely, if ever, actually make gameplay fun.
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Originally posted by aldo_14
That's because you're working with a 3ds file imported into TS by the looks of it; 3ds files don't, IIRC, allow multiple UV-co-ordinates for a vertice, so they split the model into submodel elements for each UV plane.
Sometimes it just appears split verts just for the hell of it, or so I've found
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that happens even if you convert it with 3dexp?
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Yeah. Pretty rare tho, and re-running through the conversion again usually sorts it out.
Regarding the model, I'd drop the Fenris link. Looks pretty good taken in isolation. :)