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Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: DaBrain on June 06, 2005, 05:01:49 am
We're going to change a lot about the landscape system. This is only a small test with a few buildings. The final city will look a lot better. :)

I still think it looks incredible for the FS2 engine.

(http://img296.echo.cx/img296/2626/screen12807ne.jpg)

(http://img296.echo.cx/img296/224/screen12829id.jpg)

(http://img296.echo.cx/img296/174/screen12849ic.jpg)

I guess now is the right time to ask for some help with the unwraping of some models. :)

Shadows of Lylat (http://www.game-warden.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=16)
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: Nuke on June 06, 2005, 06:09:36 am
those lights kick ass :D
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: Ypoknons on June 06, 2005, 06:29:28 am
Buildings are awesome. How well does the AI handle them?
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: DaBrain on June 06, 2005, 06:47:45 am
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Originally posted by Ypoknons
Buildings are awesome. How well does the AI handle them?


Perfectly. They just stand there and do nothing. ;7


Edit: Damn, I tend to skip letters in thread titles. :rolleyes:
Could a mod fix this please? :)
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: Mefustae on June 06, 2005, 06:49:58 am
That looks unbelievable so far, the engine really handles the buildings quite well, but, how long until you get the Great Fox ingame...?
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: DaBrain on June 06, 2005, 06:52:50 am
We don't have a model for that right now, but maybe we just found someone who want's tp share his Great Fox model with us. :)

You'll see the Great Fox in the second mission.
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: Lynx on June 06, 2005, 06:54:35 am
Looks great. Have you tried already multiple AI ships there? As you know the FS AI loves to crash into stuff and that area looks predestined to be a destruction derby for AI ships.


BTW, how did you achieve the fog at the horizon?
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: DaBrain on June 06, 2005, 07:46:59 am
Uhm, I can't tell you why we proably won't have any AI problems right now. ;)

The fog is just a modified nebula with rather 'weak' poofs.


Right now I'm trying to get the ambience to the final look.
Well, I'm testing out the limits while I'm doing so-
Over 70 objects... no problem. ;)

(http://img231.echo.cx/img231/1475/screen13167tn.jpg)

(http://img231.echo.cx/img231/6973/screen13052ak.jpg)

(http://img231.echo.cx/img231/6742/screen13182gg.jpg)
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: pyro-manic on June 06, 2005, 10:28:21 am
Wow. Just Wow....

:eek2::yes:
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: Gregster2k on June 06, 2005, 10:50:16 am
So what happens if you fly too far to the..."edge"?

Is there any way to handle that, will the player smack into an invisible wall, end up at the other side of the field, or just keep flying past the "ground's edge" into the void?

On a very minor note, I hope those fighters are to scale, i.e. the pilot cockpit doesn't imply that the person in the cockpit is the size of a 10-foot tall gorilla or bigger than a window on a building would imply human height. :P
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: DaBrain on June 06, 2005, 10:57:24 am
Although we will have invisible walls, there won't be an edge. ;)

Uhm, and the scaling needs some fixing... well a lot of fixing.

I'll try to upload a short clip of this test. Right now I'm uploading something else, so it may take a while. :)

It's more or less something like a tech demo clip. No action, no scripts, just flying around.
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: Gregster2k on June 06, 2005, 11:01:39 am
You should bug the heck out of the SCP development team to implement a "Wrapping Atmosphere Engine Mode" that makes the FS2 engine behave like Battlefield 1942's with a definable wrapping box boundary around a region of space (go to this edge you seamlessly end up at the other side, of course, any ground model must reflect this).
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: Axem on June 06, 2005, 11:05:01 am
Is that anything like SF64's warping-on-the-edge multiplayer thing? Cause I think you could do that with FRED.
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: Deepstar on June 06, 2005, 11:30:16 am
Is that really a Freespace 2 Mod? :eek:

A City in Freespace Engine..  impressive..
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: karajorma on June 06, 2005, 11:36:57 am
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Originally posted by Axem
Is that anything like SF64's warping-on-the-edge multiplayer thing? Cause I think you could do that with FRED.


You could do it for your ship easily enough. You couldn't do it for the shots you'd just fired at the enemy ship though so it would be very noticable.
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: Axem on June 06, 2005, 11:38:27 am
Well, that's how it was in SF64 anyway, it was the best strategy too. Stay close the the edge to always vanish from your opponent and their shots. Then sneak up on them and fire a Nova Bomb. :D
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: DaBrain on June 06, 2005, 11:59:31 am
I took a short clip, but this WMV compression is most horrible...  :doubt:


Download (http://www.game-warden.com/starfox/Non_SF_related_stuff/SoL_preview.wmv) (18MB WMV)

Edit:
Uhm, don't worry about the HUD, I've set the res to 800*600, to avoid lags.  (As soon as I start recording my fps goes down to 1/3.)

I'm very happy with the performance. ~70 objects + all SCP features (yes -PCX32) and it still runs at decent speeds, even when I record a clip. :)

SCP team :yes:
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: Kie99 on June 06, 2005, 12:40:57 pm
Forgive my ignorance, but is this a conversion of another game?

Also are the Buildings separate models docked to the main base, or is it just one huge model?
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: Lynx on June 06, 2005, 12:52:51 pm
It's supposed to be a total conversion of the StarFox games.

I suppose the buildings are just normal ship models without engines and a high mass to prevent them from being knocked around by shots.
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: DaBrain on June 06, 2005, 12:53:57 pm
Quote
Originally posted by kietotheworld
Forgive my ignorance, but is this a conversion of another game?

Also are the Buildings separate models docked to the main base, or is it just one huge model?


It's a Starfox Total Conversion for Freespace 2 Open.

Right now, the buildings are set up on a huge landscape model (not even docked), that will change, as we change our landscape concept, to achive an even better looking city.
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: Grug on June 06, 2005, 01:11:38 pm
Aye its the Starfox series from Nintendo.

As for the models, I think atm they are placed indivually, no docking. Though that may change I think.

Top Screens DaBrain. :D
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: EtherShock on June 06, 2005, 02:04:32 pm
:eek2: Holy *^#@! Excellent work for what you have to work with. That nova bomb works perfectly!
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: MetalDestroyer on June 06, 2005, 03:07:17 pm
Hehe, Dab you did a great job ^^
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: DaBrain on June 06, 2005, 03:24:31 pm
Those building were made by Axem, I only unwraped and textured them. Omniscraper created the cool landscape.
AqueousShadow wrote the setting. Jonathan_27 created the road and streetlight models. DZComposer made the music.
Nuke helped with the glowpoints. ;)
And all other memers will have something to show off soon too. :)

Those guys are great!

We still have a few open positions. (Unwrap, anyone?)
:)
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: WMCoolmon on June 06, 2005, 06:01:25 pm
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Originally posted by Gregster2k
You should bug the heck out of the SCP development team to implement a "Wrapping Atmosphere Engine Mode" that makes the FS2 engine behave like Battlefield 1942's with a definable wrapping box boundary around a region of space (go to this edge you seamlessly end up at the other side, of course, any ground model must reflect this).


You might be able to do something like this with SEXPs. It would be rather crude and the transition wouldn't be seamless in most cases,  I suspect, but it is possible.

Starfox 64 did that anyhow, so it might be something to look into.
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: Liquid Fire on June 06, 2005, 07:05:26 pm
Looks cool. Although I think even now, the nebula poofs might be too thick. And the lightning seems a little out of place. Also, the music is fine for the most part, but I cringed for the last bit. It doesn't fit and sounds incredibly annoying. Other than that, it looks good. Although I always thought the starfox 64 ship had looked less fragile...:sigh:
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: DaBrain on June 06, 2005, 07:18:23 pm
Don't worry, the music will fit perfectly to the first mission. ;)
The fog problem will be solved. Thanks to WMCoolmon. :)

The ships need a lot of table tweaking.
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: Nuke on June 06, 2005, 07:19:09 pm
hey i think i found another glowpoint bug, type 0 normals dont seem to work. i cant remember my mantis logon name though.

i wonder if you could implement a terrain tieling system,  where you would set up a terrain grid table and you can specify a model for each grid square. it would take some great modeling skills to make sure the tiles lign up properly. but it would be kinda cool if you pulled it off. its the way normal flight sims pull off global terrain. the engine would only load a few grid squares at a time and unload ones that are out of range. you could have an insanely high detail terrain system. with a proper atmoshperic lift and gravity you could make freespace into an engine option for those working on realistic flight sims.
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: pyro-manic on June 06, 2005, 07:34:06 pm
That clip was rather impressive. :yes: What did you use to capture it? I love that nova bomb effect - the star-shaped explosion is extremely cool.
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: DaBrain on June 06, 2005, 07:49:53 pm
I've used FRAPS for that. :)

The nova bomb explosion is one of my favourite effects.  ;)
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: AqueousShadow on June 06, 2005, 10:58:04 pm
Our baby...it's...it's alive...it's breathing!!!alwjf-9j31-3j4`0uwrf09u124`-

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Originally posted by Liquid Fire
Looks cool. Although I think even now, the nebula poofs might be too thick. And the lightning seems a little out of place. Also, the music is fine for the most part, but I cringed for the last bit. It doesn't fit and sounds incredibly annoying. Other than that, it looks good. Although I always thought the starfox 64 ship had looked less fragile...:sigh:


Lightning noted. Music is great, but yes, there's some problems with the looping sequence. And that's not the SF64 ship. It's the old school, SNES one, if you take a good look at it.

Honestly, I'm impressed myself that we've done a lot of this work, and it's all owed to our awesome team. It's so great that we've gotten so much done with the number of people we have. And guess what? If you're impressed with what DB has shown here, you'll piss your pants when you see the other stuff we've got planned....:drevil:
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: Ghost on June 06, 2005, 11:40:24 pm
I noticed that it was the SNES one, but it looks too...weak...or thin..or something. Seeing as how our graphics capabilities are not that of the SNES's, think we could upgrade?
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: Ypoknons on June 07, 2005, 04:44:31 am
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Originally posted by DaBrain
Perfectly. They just stand there and do nothing. ;7

:lol: you !
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: DaBrain on June 07, 2005, 04:54:52 am
Ok, the AI has a problem with the buildings, but that won't trouble us too much.  ;) At least I hope so.

We have planned something *special* for the first mission. ;7
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: Setekh on June 07, 2005, 05:07:35 am
Awesome... downloading the movie now. :)
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: DaBrain on June 07, 2005, 07:05:34 am
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Originally posted by pyro-manic
That clip was rather impressive. :yes: What did you use to capture it? I love that nova bomb effect - the star-shaped explosion is extremely cool.


Sorry, for the bad compression quality in the clip.

(http://img295.echo.cx/img295/549/screen13250jb.jpg)
:)

(http://img295.echo.cx/img295/4863/screen13432fe.jpg)

See the building to the left? It needs some MOI tweaking I think. :lol:
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: MetalDestroyer on June 07, 2005, 12:22:27 pm
The Arwing we see in those screen are the final ? Or you 'll change it with a more detail Arwing ?
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: DaBrain on June 07, 2005, 05:11:53 pm
The Arwing in the last two screens is the Arwing seen in Starfox: Assault for GC.

It's a super-detailed HTL model, yet it's not final. I need to unwrap and texture it.

I'd have started the texturing already, but the unwraping stuff is too new for me to do it right. :(


BTW I was thinking about voice acting. Well, I guess there are only a few people who want to do that. I'm not naive, I'm pretty sure this won't work out, but if there is enough interest, I'll take it serious and start working on it.

http://www.game-warden.com/forum/showthread.php?t=804

We already found a 'Slippy'. :lol:
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: Nuke on June 08, 2005, 04:12:11 am
i forget, what was the bunny's name :D

snes starfox was one of my favorite games on a console ever. never played starfox 64 or the game cube one. iit always seemed silly to me that such a kickass game pulled a disney and used animal pilots.
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: Sigma957 on June 08, 2005, 06:26:17 am
This mod is lookin quite good :yes:
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: DaBrain on June 08, 2005, 06:31:43 am
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Originally posted by Nuke
i forget, what was the bunny's name :D

snes starfox was one of my favorite games on a console ever. never played starfox 64 or the game cube one. iit always seemed silly to me that such a kickass game pulled a disney and used animal pilots.


The bunny is Peppy. :)

The be honest, the old SNES Starfox was my favourite SF game too. Not as childish as the new games, plus, it had the best music IMHO.

But SF64 was a really fun too. Kinda more childish, but it had a lot of action. (Pure, stupid action. I love this kind of simple fun. :) )
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: MetalDestroyer on June 08, 2005, 06:41:18 am
So, if the SNES is your favorite one, why don't you make a remake ^^
I've never finished it in Medium and Hard difficulty :(
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: Unknown Target on June 08, 2005, 06:44:00 am
I loved the SNES version  :)

And that video was kickass! I can't wait for this mod! :D
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: DaBrain on June 08, 2005, 06:51:19 am
Quote
Originally posted by MetalDestroyer
So, if the SNES is your favorite one, why don't you make a remake ^^
I've never finished it in Medium and Hard difficulty :(


Maybe we could...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/NarfPics/attackcarrierrender.jpg)

:drevil:

But that won't allow us to use all SCP features... Maybe one level or so. Just for fun. :)

Quote
Originally posted by Unknown Target
I loved the SNES version  :)

And that video was kickass! I can't wait for this mod! :D


Ahhh, I'd love to show you how it will look like when it's final... but a few things are not ready yet... :rolleyes:
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: MetalDestroyer on June 08, 2005, 07:51:55 am
Hehe, I love it ^^
Make us a remake. Starwing was my best SNES game ^^
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: delta_7890 on June 08, 2005, 10:22:53 am
OO;  Holy ****.  You guys kick ASS!  The ATTACK CARRIER!  God I loved that thing.  You'd better incorporate the destructable parts correctly!  ^^;

Oh, and these are the baddies I want you guys to put in there, as I am a HUGE Starfox fan and loved the SNES and N64 games to DEATH.  Forgive me if I don't remember all the names.  ^^;

From SNES Starfox:
-Atomic Base (That could make for an AWESOME level)
-Dancing Insector
-Phantron (both forms)
-Plasma Hydra
-Blade Barrier
-Great Commander (warship and mecha versions)
-Andross
-Slot Machine (C'mon, you know you want to!)

From N64:
-Granga
-Meteo Crusher
-Star Wolf Team (in Wolfen I, and II models)
-Spyborg
-Core (from Bolse)
-Saucerer
-Mechbeth
-Shogun Warriors and Warlord
-Sarumarine
-Golmech

And..yeah, that's it.  ^^;
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: Ghost on June 08, 2005, 11:56:18 am
Jeeeeeeeeeeesus. That's pretty. In a threatening sort of way. I was  4 or 5 when SF for the SNES came out, so I couldn't really appreciate it... my dad regularly played through it, though, that much I remember.
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: Roanoke on June 08, 2005, 01:02:08 pm
Quote
Originally posted by MetalDestroyer
So, if the SNES is your favorite one, why don't you make a remake ^^
I've never finished it in Medium and Hard difficulty :(


I thought it was most fun on hard. 'ceot for that damned Sector Z with it's spinny see-through sticks.

The Great Commander Boss (Venom 1) was ace tho.
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: Axem on June 08, 2005, 02:37:05 pm
I suppose I should go remake that ship since everyone is swooning over it. :p

I had a test video of all its bays opening up using Bob's subobject animation code. I'll see if I can dig it up.
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: DaBrain on June 08, 2005, 03:11:28 pm
Right. The clip impressed me a lot!

It was like: :confused:  Hey what's going to happen now? :eek2: No, no that can't be! It's too cool to be true! :)
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: Nuke on June 08, 2005, 04:54:08 pm
how are you gonna hangel ground units? maybey you can push for some new features in the scp.
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: DaBrain on June 08, 2005, 05:05:35 pm
We're using the 'no bank' feature.
Altough, we didn't really test this for AI controlled ships yet...

I guess this is going to become pretty intersting. ;)




Ok, does anybody here want to help us with some unwraping. That would really help us a lot!
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: AqueousShadow on June 08, 2005, 05:35:42 pm
Ahhhhh crazy p1mpage....no more! DB, you'll give away everything before it's released....don't spoil the fun :D
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: DaBrain on June 08, 2005, 05:47:09 pm
Hehe, don't worry. The 'no-bank' feature is nothing secret. :)
I didn't spoil much at all.


Don't forget we need a few more members.

Please PM me if you want to help us. Even single works will help a lot. It's mostly about two unwrap jobs.
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: Taristin on June 08, 2005, 06:55:55 pm
By unwrap, you mean that th emesh is already mapped, and you want it to use one map file rather than several?

Or you mean that they have to be UV mapped?
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: DaBrain on June 08, 2005, 07:01:20 pm
One of them isn't UV mapped at all and the other one has probably to be UV mapped again. It has an UV map already, but I can't do much with Lith. I think it's easier to UV map it again.
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: Taristin on June 08, 2005, 07:04:36 pm
And that would be all that's required? UV Mapping isn't terribly hard (On a decently modelled ship). It's the map making that can be tedious.

If you want me to try one, send me a pic of the mesh to my pm box, and I'll see if it looks too hard for me. ;)
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: Gregster2k on June 08, 2005, 11:53:08 pm
By the way, what happens to the visuals, just out of curiousity, if you set the mission to be a Subspace Mission? :drevil: ;7
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: freespace2pilot on June 09, 2005, 01:53:06 am
that is Soooooooo cool!

questions:
is there gonna be:
- the tank?
- powerups?
- score?

the planet u showed (cornelia or something wasnt it?) in the first set of screenies looks amazing!

the arwing tho...  i remember it being a lot... fatter... then that...
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: DaBrain on June 09, 2005, 04:10:17 am
Quote
Originally posted by Gregster2k
By the way, what happens to the visuals, just out of curiousity, if you set the mission to be a Subspace Mission? :drevil: ;7


Hehe, might be worth a try. ;)
I guess it will look horrible though. ;)

Quote
Originally posted by freespace2pilot
that is Soooooooo cool!

questions:
is there gonna be:
- the tank?
- powerups?
- score?

the planet u showed (cornelia or something wasnt it?) in the first set of screenies looks amazing!

the arwing tho...  i remember it being a lot... fatter... then that...


:sigh: They hit me if I tell any more.

Quote
Originally posted by AqueousShadow
Ahhhhh crazy p1mpage....no more! DB, you'll give away everything before it's released....don't spoil the fun :D


:shaking:
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: krisvek on June 10, 2005, 09:10:33 am
awesome....if you manage to include the bit where you fly INTO the bigger ships and blow up it's reactor Starwars style...i will be your servant....nothing kicks more ass than that...
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: AqueousShadow on June 11, 2005, 01:00:24 am
Yea. Axem beats him with a stick :D
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: SuperCoolAl on June 11, 2005, 05:45:30 pm
Done some Falco voices :) http://www.game-warden.com/forum/showthread.php?p=10423#post10423
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: DaBrain on June 11, 2005, 07:01:26 pm
Wow, pretty good. :eek2:

It's not 100% like the original, but very close to it. :yes:
I really start considering voice acting now. :)
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: Taristin on June 11, 2005, 07:03:52 pm
Once your ships get mapped... :nervous:
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: DaBrain on June 11, 2005, 07:27:34 pm
:) Don't worry. I still owe you one for this. We're going to update our alpha package as soon as we got some missing textures.
So until then there is no need for this fighter to be mapped. Although I'll still have to texture it... well, it's not that complex.
But I guess I'll have to spend a lot of time for the shine map.
;7
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: Grug on June 11, 2005, 08:00:24 pm
Quote
Originally posted by AqueousShadow
Yea. Axem beats him with a stick :D


:lol:

Here I thought DaBrain just fell down a lot of stairs. :p
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: Axem on June 11, 2005, 08:09:42 pm
Quote
Originally posted by krisvek
awesome....if you manage to include the bit where you fly INTO the bigger ships and blow up it's reactor Starwars style...i will be your servant....nothing kicks more ass than that...


Wouldn't be StarFox without something like that, now would it? ;)

Quote
Originally posted by Grug


:lol:

Here I thought DaBrain just fell down a lot of stairs. :p


I'm not violent! How dare you call me that?!

*Punches Grug*
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: krisvek on June 11, 2005, 09:48:37 pm
if youre implying that the blow-up-the-big-ship-from-inside-out bit will be included....then call me elvis :)  this mod will be great!
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: Grug on June 11, 2005, 09:54:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Axem

I'm not violent! How dare you call me that?!

*Punches Grug*


LoL.

*whimpers and runs off* :p
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: Ulala on June 12, 2005, 12:35:36 am
I always liked the ships from the planet Fox's friend Bill was from (stared with a 'K' I think?) in Starfox64.. anyway, by chance might we get to see those as a model?
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: Unknown Target on June 12, 2005, 12:44:07 am
Oh, the dog? Yea, those ships were pretty cool, it'd be awesome to see them in action :)
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: SuperCoolAl on June 12, 2005, 02:40:38 am
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Originally posted by Unknown Target
Oh, the dog? Yea, those ships were pretty cool, it'd be awesome to see them in action :)


Look at the sixth screeny in this thread :rolleyes:

Cheers DaBrain, this mod is my most anticipated one, I've always been a StarFox fan.

Katina was always my favourite level because you got the impression you were part of a massive battle rather than just you against a bunch of enemies.
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: AqueousShadow on June 12, 2005, 11:59:33 am
Is Raa interested in joining the team? Or is he too busy?
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: Grug on June 12, 2005, 05:30:17 pm
Too slack more like... :p
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: Taristin on June 12, 2005, 05:32:52 pm
I'm not joining... no.

*sets Axem on Grug*

I don't really have it in me to focus on yet another mod... since as it stands, I've lost focus on all of the ones I am a member of currently.
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: Grug on June 12, 2005, 06:19:28 pm
:p

Can't blame 'em for trying. ;)
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: DaBrain on June 12, 2005, 06:45:32 pm
Quote
Originally posted by AqueousShadow
Is Raa interested in joining the team? Or is he too busy?


:) Our staff just got bigger in the last days.

When Raa completes to UV map, he has done pretty much for us. This map is very important for us. :)
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: Taristin on June 12, 2005, 07:01:15 pm
I have one of the sections almost completed. It all depends on if you want a different map for each subobject, or to use the same image file for the entire model. It's possible to do so either way, since mapping per subobject is how the HTL engine works, right?
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: DaBrain on June 12, 2005, 07:56:02 pm
Yes, but I think one map will do. Or better - one map is the optimal way.
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: Taristin on June 12, 2005, 08:10:55 pm
Not really. It's only optimal in terms of download size. Since they're each individual subobjects, they could each use a seperate map and not hinder perfomance.
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: Charismatic on June 13, 2005, 12:08:16 pm
I still cant beleive those pics came from the FS2 engine. Wow..
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: AqueousShadow on June 14, 2005, 12:48:14 am
You betta believe it.
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: Bobboau on June 14, 2005, 01:53:40 am
a year or so from now after I have finished fully integrated and bugfixed the materials system, someone get me to make a tarain engine for FS, I have some good ideas for one. I'm thinking useing a radial subdivision of the surface and updateing it every two or three seconds (would be better if it could take advantage of multi-threading) based on the player's position above the surface. the idea would be rather than a square grid your have the point directly below the player on the surface act as the center of a bunch of concintric circles with axiese spreading out acting as a polar grid, width of the circles and number of axies would be a function of altitude.
I've never seen this sort of implementation performed so I am quite interested in how this idea would work out. but I think it would provide the absolutely best method for both getting the most amount of detail near the player and culling unneeded geometry from rendering.
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: Grug on June 14, 2005, 04:01:40 am
Some usefull links perhaps?
http://terraform.sourceforge.net/
http://www.pandromeda.com/products/

Mojo world used to be partially open source I think. Some interesting technology though.
Imagine real planets ingame, ie you can fly around the whole world as it generates on the fly. Something like that would be cool. :)
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: DaBrain on June 14, 2005, 04:41:19 am
@Bob That sounds pretty damn cool.


So many postings without a pic...

(http://img69.echo.cx/img69/8458/corprogress7xo.jpg)
Well, it's WIP.

Guess the planet. ;)
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: NGTM-1R on June 14, 2005, 05:05:15 am
Hmm...can't remember the name, but it's the one with "The Forever Train" in Star Fox 64, isn't it?

Wait, wait! Macbeth?
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: krisvek on June 14, 2005, 07:55:25 am
good ol' shake-a-spear....i enjoyed blowing up that train; never quite understood how the train was such a threat though...

Bob...that method you describe sounds interesting, but how would texturing work? (not trying to point out a problem; i'm just curious to understand how it would work, heheh)
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: DaBrain on June 14, 2005, 10:23:12 am
Quote
Originally posted by ngtm1r
Hmm...can't remember the name, but it's the one with "The Forever Train" in Star Fox 64, isn't it?

Wait, wait! Macbeth?


No. :(
I guess I need to work on it... It's too dark.
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: SuperCoolAl on June 14, 2005, 12:22:45 pm
corneria?

you're right, it is too dark...
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: Nuke on June 14, 2005, 01:31:20 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Bobboau
a year or so from now after I have finished fully integrated and bugfixed the materials system, someone get me to make a tarain engine for FS, I have some good ideas for one. I'm thinking useing a radial subdivision of the surface and updateing it every two or three seconds (would be better if it could take advantage of multi-threading) based on the player's position above the surface. the idea would be rather than a square grid your have the point directly below the player on the surface act as the center of a bunch of concintric circles with axiese spreading out acting as a polar grid, width of the circles and number of axies would be a function of altitude.
I've never seen this sort of implementation performed so I am quite interested in how this idea would work out. but I think it would provide the absolutely best method for both getting the most amount of detail near the player and culling unneeded geometry from rendering.


you mean do it the same way frontier or orbiter does it? so you can actually do a re-entry and such. that and some newtonian and you can make freespace an actual sim. perhaps an aerodynamics engine as well. gravity and actual ground unit support. id like 3d planets for orbital bombardment missions. the battle for vasuda for example.
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: Unknown Target on June 14, 2005, 02:37:49 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Nuke


you mean do it the same way frontier or orbiter does it? so you can actually do a re-entry and such. that and some newtonian and you can make freespace an actual sim. perhaps an aerodynamics engine as well. gravity and actual ground unit support. id like 3d planets for orbital bombardment missions. the battle for vasuda for example.


:wtf:

Or not...
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: krisvek on June 14, 2005, 03:17:59 pm
lol...hey, he's just saying that the options could be there...doesnt mean everyone would have to play that way, or that it would be implemented into the main game

i suspect Bob might be flabbergasted by all that however, heheh

anyhow, the planet looks good....my unability to guess what planet it is isnt your fault; i havent looked at a starfox planet in some time :)
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: NGTM-1R on June 14, 2005, 04:23:06 pm
Quote
Originally posted by DaBrain


No. :(
I guess I need to work on it... It's too dark.


Corneria's land was mostly green; Macbeth's mostly brown...
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: DaBrain on June 14, 2005, 04:27:18 pm
Quote
Originally posted by SuperCoolAl
corneria?

you're right, it is too dark...


100 points for you. :)
Yeah, I'll take care of the light when I'm done with the surface.


Quote
Originally posted by krisvek
lol...hey, he's just saying that the options could be there...doesnt mean everyone would have to play that way, or that it would be implemented into the main game

i suspect Bob might be flabbergasted by all that however, heheh

anyhow, the planet looks good....my unability to guess what planet it is isnt your fault; i havent looked at a starfox planet in some time :)


Well, I think it was hard to guess. (And that is my fault... I placed only one light in the scene.... and I even placed it very bad. ;) )
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: Ulala on June 14, 2005, 06:44:46 pm
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Originally posted by SuperCoolAl


Look at the sixth screeny in this thread :rolleyes:

 


Are you sure that's a Katina fighter in the 6th picture? *goes and tries to dig up an old screenshot*

[Edit] Well, I couldn't find a screenshot, but I caught another glimpse of the ship you were referring to in the 5th screenshot, and it looks a 'lil more like a Katina fighter. I guess I'm just used to seeing like 25 of them at once.

BTW, that Corneria does look a bit like Macbeth from SF64, but the clouds are what clued me into it being Corneria. [/Edit]
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: DaBrain on June 15, 2005, 05:35:59 am
Are you talking about this one?

(http://img221.echo.cx/img221/2567/screen13778sa.jpg)
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: EtherShock on June 15, 2005, 08:13:39 am
:eek: Wow, that's a lot of rocks.
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: DaBrain on June 15, 2005, 11:57:48 am
Uhm, we need a talented UV mapper for one model. I've tried it a few times, but I can't do it. :(

It's only one model...
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: AqueousShadow on June 15, 2005, 08:30:40 pm
Quote
Originally posted by EtherShock
:eek: Wow, that's a lot of rocks.


It IS an asteroid belt :nod: :lol:
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: EtherShock on June 15, 2005, 10:53:40 pm
Quote
Originally posted by AqueousShadow
It IS an asteroid belt :nod: :lol:

Yes, and it looks just as one should. ^_^

*Hopes it doesn't slow his system to a crawl*
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: Anaz on June 16, 2005, 12:19:52 am
Most of those rocks are part of the background image.
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: DaBrain on June 16, 2005, 04:36:40 am
Well in this shot it's pretty much 50:50. There are a lot of 'real' asteroids in the shot.

It's a small field with 256 real asteroids. ;)
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: Ulala on June 17, 2005, 03:35:03 am
Cool Katina fighter. :yes: :)
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: starfox on June 17, 2005, 07:51:37 am
Damn, I love Starfox (as the username SLIGHTLY suggests) !!!

That asteroid belt sure looks cool, and the Atmospheric/Ground missions look even more amasing. Can't wait, just cant wait....
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: DaBrain on June 17, 2005, 08:30:21 am
Hehe, I just found this:

http://www.gamekult.com/pc/forum/lire_157818_page13.html
(On the bottom of the page.)

Looks like MetalDestroyer is doing some FS2 advertising. :lol:


@starfox :) Be patient, as soon as we finish the first mission thing will move faster. And even right now there is a lot of progress.
Man I feel so slow... I'll get back to work on somehting now. ;)

Just to defend myself - I've a fair ammount of problems in real life right now.
Well, no problem, but it's really stealing my time.  :doubt:
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: krisvek on June 17, 2005, 08:48:55 am
my biggest distraction to my virtual-endevours is always RealLife in general, heh
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: AqueousShadow on June 18, 2005, 01:43:47 am
LOL Man our stuff is getting p1mped everywhere and we've done about 10% of the advertising ourselves. This is great...our project is generating so much interest and it's so far from done. I only hope that the final product will impress and satisfy the expectations of the general populus.
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: MetalDestroyer on June 18, 2005, 01:45:40 am
Hehe, So you understand French ^^
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: DaBrain on June 18, 2005, 04:27:12 am
Not a single word. :lol:

Edit: Well, my sister translated a few things for me. :)
She learns French it at school. I wanted to learn it too, but even though my school offered it, they never got a teacher for it... so better - no teacher had enough time. Well, thanks. :(

Now I'll never learn it. :(
I bet they offered it again, right after I left the school...
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: MetalDestroyer on June 18, 2005, 04:52:52 am
Damn it ^^
Title: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: AqueousShadow on June 18, 2005, 04:34:10 pm
Yea. I looked at it and saw it was all in French...then for a slight minute I thought it was all in German cuz well...DB is German. Then I said no...I took a bit of French before.

Basically, I could understand things when I saw a link to our SoL preview :D
Title: Re: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: DaBrain on July 30, 2006, 02:04:21 am
Time to bump this:
I've released two (older) clips, that should give you a pretty good picture of the multiplayer gameplay.

http://www.game-warden.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2352
Title: Re: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: Harbinger of DOOM on July 30, 2006, 01:38:49 pm
I know I'm probly gonna be whacked for this but............... what is Starfox?
Title: Re: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: Getter Robo G on July 30, 2006, 01:49:35 pm
He he he he. You're either young or lived under a non-having NES or Super NES rock...

If you had either of those however, it is a "whacking" offfense...  ;7
Title: Re: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: Harbinger of DOOM on July 30, 2006, 02:14:20 pm
Young?
since when is 14 young?
I feel like an old man.....................
:(
I just never got into Starfox, I guess the name kind of deterred me for some reason.... :wtf:
Title: Re: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: DaBrain on July 30, 2006, 03:18:28 pm
Well... there are a few people who don't know StarFox and many FS2 fans that may not be interested in it. So it's quite a challenge to create a good game with this name.

SoL will feature some very innovative gameplay. Especially for FS2 standards.
And of course you'll get a crazy ammount of flashy effects. ;)

And when I was 14 I thought I was old too... but that changes... I guess you're 'old' for your whole life.  :lol:
Title: Re: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: Harbinger of DOOM on July 30, 2006, 05:59:41 pm
Well... there are a few people who don't know StarFox and many FS2 fans that may not be interested in it. So it's quite a challenge to create a good game with this name.

SoL will feature some very innovative gameplay. Especially for FS2 standards.
And of course you'll get a crazy ammount of flashy effects. ;)
Sweet!
Quote
And when I was 14 I thought I was old too... but that changes... I guess you're 'old' for your whole life.  :lol:
Hmmmm, true.
Title: Re: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: DaBrain on July 31, 2006, 03:16:51 am
I've released some new (not that new ;) ) pics. We're actually working on something else atm...

This is a ship, that you'll see in the first mission.

(http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/3723/cfr90cr.jpg)

(http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/5962/cfr105ju.jpg)

(http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/737/cfr14rd9.jpg)


In-game shot:
(http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/1797/flare1wd6.jpg)


And it's in the loading screen for the first mission too. ;)

(http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/7921/solload01nl3.jpg)
Title: Re: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: aldo_14 on July 31, 2006, 03:20:37 am
ooooh, purdy
Title: Re: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: starfox on August 01, 2006, 01:59:47 am
Looks awesome...can't say much more....
 :yes:

By the way, if I may ask...are any of the Wolfens (Starwolf fighter) completed yet ?
I've looked forward in modelling that ship, but I lack sufficient image material...
The SF Assault Wolfen, is the one I'm truly interested....

Title: Re: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: DaBrain on August 01, 2006, 03:58:15 am
The second gameplay trailer shows the Wolfen (rather short and in the end of the clip). But we've a better model in the works.

BTW ... you're interested in modelling for us?
Title: Re: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: starfox on August 01, 2006, 04:34:54 am
I'd love to DaBrain, but my modelling skills are not very sharp atm....but I'm getting better, after all practice is key to success in any endeavor.
*Goes to model some more models*  ;)

Title: Re: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: DaBrain on August 01, 2006, 05:19:59 am
Well, show me something. We also have some simple models on our list. ;)
Title: Re: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: Mefustae on August 01, 2006, 05:51:20 am
Say, have you made/planned to make the Great Fox?
Title: Re: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: DaBrain on August 01, 2006, 05:53:38 am
Yes, it's a WIP model. Atalhlla is working on it.

It's needed for the third mission.
Title: Re: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: Mefustae on August 01, 2006, 05:59:53 am
It's needed for the third mission.
Excellent. Intercepting anti-starship missiles, perhaps?
Title: Re: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: DaBrain on August 01, 2006, 06:15:04 am
Nope, the thrid missions will feature a scenario that hasn't been in any SF game before. The solution will be very starfox-ish though. ;)

No spoilers.  :p
Title: Re: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: Harbinger of DOOM on August 01, 2006, 07:10:16 am
No spoilers.  :p
You evil, evil man!!!!!!
:lol:
Title: Re: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: Colonol Dekker on August 01, 2006, 07:25:01 am
Nope, the thrid missions will feature a scenario that hasn't been in any SF game before. The solution will be very starfox-ish though. ;)

No spoilers.  :p

I'm guessing atmospheric entry, Or maybe............Grr i give up :(
Title: Re: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: DaBrain on August 01, 2006, 07:36:46 am
Although that wasn't really correct, it was a pretty good guess.

You'll see a large part of Corneria in that mission.
Title: Re: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: Colonol Dekker on August 01, 2006, 07:38:48 am
Hmmmmmmmm, Could it be a fighter launching from a capship in atmosphere then?


*No comment equates to a yes in my book   ;7
Title: Re: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: DaBrain on August 01, 2006, 07:56:07 am
Ok... If you really want to push me to answer that...



Spoiler:
No!  :p
Title: Re: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: Colonol Dekker on August 01, 2006, 07:59:20 am
The first show of whether Slippy is male or Female?
Title: Re: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: Mefustae on August 01, 2006, 08:01:37 am
I maintain that Slippy is in fact a Smizmar.
Title: Re: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: DaBrain on August 01, 2006, 08:10:55 am
Nobody knows for sure. :D

http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=103

Somebody (Axem?) posted this link on the SoL board a while ago.
Title: Re: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: Colonol Dekker on August 01, 2006, 08:14:19 am
Not mine........... :nervous:,




K i respect the right to pre-release privancy :D
*slumps agains tthe wall and sleeps in wait of smizmarscreenshots*
Title: Re: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: Wanderer on August 01, 2006, 08:28:07 am
While waiting for screenies... check this (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,41351.msg843418.html#msg843418) out
Title: Re: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: Colonol Dekker on August 01, 2006, 08:39:24 am
I DL'd it near enough as soon as you put it up, I'm at work though so i'll watch it on my laptop later on when i finish :D
Title: Re: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: DaBrain on August 07, 2006, 04:25:28 am
Updating the content. ;)

(http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/4876/ccomparetw2.jpg)
Title: Re: Progress pics of the Starfox mod
Post by: Harbinger of DOOM on August 09, 2006, 03:36:12 pm
Ok... If you really want to push me to answer that...



Spoiler:
No!  :p
A fighter blasts-off from the ground into space?
:P