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Title: Kerry wasn't really that smart.
Post by: achtung on June 07, 2005, 03:09:47 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050607/ap_on_re_us/kerry_grades
:ha:
Title: Kerry wasn't really that smart.
Post by: Unknown Target on June 07, 2005, 03:13:00 pm
Difference:

Kerry ended up being a top notch politician and war hero.
Bush ended up being appointed to government by daddy, and went AWOL when it was his turn for combat.
Title: Kerry wasn't really that smart.
Post by: Deepblue on June 07, 2005, 03:18:43 pm
You can cling to that if you want...

A top notch politician!? A war hero?! You're kidding me...
Title: Kerry wasn't really that smart.
Post by: Unknown Target on June 07, 2005, 03:33:20 pm
He was a much better politician than Bush - i.e - he was actually fairly elected to his office, not put there by his connections.

And he also recieved two purple hearts and commanded a PT boat during Vietnam. Much better than smoking pot and going AWOL, don't you think?
Title: Kerry wasn't really that smart.
Post by: Nuclear1 on June 07, 2005, 03:39:03 pm
Kerry got a D in PS, and at best, an 89 in the same.

Let's compare, shall we?

Who's the idiot?

And I do not consider a "top-notch politician" someone who votes to reduce the US military to spitballs and then categorically deny and/or change his stance on that issue.

That's all.
Title: Kerry wasn't really that smart.
Post by: Rictor on June 07, 2005, 03:39:05 pm
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Originally posted by Unknown Target
And he also recieved two purple hearts and commanded a PT boat during Vietnam. Much better than smoking pot and going AWOL, don't you think?

Except for, you know...the whole killing bit.

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Originally posted by nuclear1
Kerry got a D in PS, and at best, an 89 in the same.

And I do not consider a "top-notch politician" someone who votes to reduce the US military to spitballs and then categorically deny and/or change his stance on that issue.

That's all.

Do you realize that US military spending accounts for half of the entire world's military budget? Half. No one could possibly reduce the US military "to spitballs" if they tried. Hell, you could stop spending money today, and in 30 years it would still be the most powerful.

Unless you have it on good authority that Russia, China, Egypt, India, Brazil, Israel, North Korea, Britain, Japan, Germany, Mexico, France, Iran, Turkey, Argentina, Poland, Canada, Venezuela, Syria, South Africa, South Korea and Australia are all going to attack at once, don't talk to me about the poor, underfunded military.
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Post by: Kie99 on June 07, 2005, 03:44:00 pm
Shouldn't all these election arguments have stopped sometime last year?
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Post by: Ghostavo on June 07, 2005, 03:53:12 pm
They're both idiots, and none of them got a single A thoughout their entire college career.

Nuff said.
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Post by: redsniper on June 07, 2005, 04:45:52 pm
Bush probably bought his grades though. Of course, I don't like Kerry either nor any politicians for that matter. The founding fathers knew what they were talking about and it's all gone downhill since then. (except for ending slavery, etc.)
Title: Kerry wasn't really that smart.
Post by: Unknown Target on June 07, 2005, 04:54:15 pm
What's the point? The only thing that matters is that we still have an idiot in office.
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Post by: karajorma on June 07, 2005, 05:02:25 pm
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Originally posted by Ghostavo
They're both idiots, and none of them got a single A thoughout their entire college career.


And yet these are the people the American people choose to represent them.

At least us Brits had no choice about John "3 GCEs" Major becoming leader of the Tories :p
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Post by: Solatar on June 07, 2005, 05:13:38 pm
Solatar's political view:

Bush is an idiot. Kerry is stupid for losing to an idiot. Therefore, Bush is and idiot and Kerry is stupid.
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Post by: SadisticSid on June 07, 2005, 06:13:45 pm
As if top academic grades automatically constitute leadership ability. The real idiots were the Dems who put an uncharismatic twit at the helm instead of someone like John Edwards, who could've actually given Bush a run for his money.
Title: Kerry wasn't really that smart.
Post by: Rictor on June 07, 2005, 06:17:56 pm
Not really. The Democrats had no platform, even by US standards. They can't give anyone a pounding for Iraq, because they supported it, so they resigned themselves to crying over details. Same with PATRIOT etc. They tried to beat the Republicans at their own macho, militaristic, WE WILL CRUSH ALL ENEMIES game, and of course failed.
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Post by: vyper on June 07, 2005, 06:19:11 pm
Nader would've rocked.
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Post by: MatthewPapa on June 07, 2005, 06:22:00 pm
I never classify politicians as a high class of people...ever. They definitely all have their flaws.
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Post by: Grey Wolf on June 07, 2005, 07:49:02 pm
I'm still hoping for McCain. No real chance of that though.
Title: Kerry wasn't really that smart.
Post by: achtung on June 07, 2005, 07:54:30 pm
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Originally posted by Ghostavo
They're both idiots, and none of them got a single A thoughout their entire college career.

Nuff said.


Very well put:yes:
Title: Kerry wasn't really that smart.
Post by: WMCoolmon on June 07, 2005, 08:11:21 pm
You know what? We should just have standardized testing for office. We can rank all the states, and then representatives will be allotted based on their scores on the exam. Cheaters will be thrown in a federal prison if they're caught, or automatically promoted to the Supreme Court if they get away with it, but come clean.

To keep everyone happy (intellectuals and the "everyman"), a coin flip following the exam will determine whether the highest scorer or the lowest scorer on the exam will get to be President. The next highest (or lowest) will get to be Vice President. The losing pair will end up as the Rhode Island senators.
Title: Kerry wasn't really that smart.
Post by: achtung on June 07, 2005, 08:16:54 pm
:lol:
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Post by: Nuclear1 on June 07, 2005, 08:18:48 pm
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Originally posted by WMCoolmon
The losing pair will end up as the Rhode Island senators.


A plan is a plan. :lol:
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Post by: Ghost on June 07, 2005, 08:32:33 pm
I vote for Darth Nader next election.

Just kidding, I'm voting for McCain. Interesting how they praised Kerry as a 'Nam hero, and yet... McCain doesn't get jack**** for what he did.
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Post by: Rictor on June 07, 2005, 08:37:26 pm
Yeah, but even if McCain runs, he's not likely to win the primary. He's to moderate.

Nader just needs a ****load of money, to even the playing field, and he could run circles around any of 'em.
Title: Kerry wasn't really that smart.
Post by: Bobboau on June 07, 2005, 08:50:32 pm
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Originally posted by Rictor
Unless you have it on good authority that Russia, China, Egypt, India, Brazil, Israel, North Korea, Britain, Japan, Germany, Mexico, France, Iran, Turkey, Argentina, Poland, Canada, Venezuela, Syria, South Africa, South Korea and Australia are all going to attack at once, don't talk to me about the poor, underfunded military.



you never know... :shaking:
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Post by: Grey Wolf on June 07, 2005, 09:08:10 pm
Well, then we're screwed, anyway, as every other nuclear power is attacking us, and if we attempted fighting using conventional tactics we'd be taken out by shear numbers.
Title: Kerry wasn't really that smart.
Post by: redmenace on June 07, 2005, 09:09:29 pm
An observation I have made is that people underestimate bush's intelligence. And doing so is dangerous and partly why democrats lost the election. When you carry along within your self contempt, disdain and pride, such as Kerry's remark I can't believe I am loosing to this...., you you have made a fatell mistake. Just an observation.
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Post by: Ford Prefect on June 07, 2005, 09:35:29 pm
An observation I have made is that people overestimate most people's intelligence.
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Post by: Dark RevenantX on June 07, 2005, 09:45:03 pm
Grades don't count for ****!  I have ****ty grades, but my IQ is 150 and my standardized tests are all well above proficient.
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Post by: Shrike on June 07, 2005, 10:34:17 pm
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Originally posted by vyper
Nader would've rocked.
DARTH NADER IS NOT AMUSED.
Title: Kerry wasn't really that smart.
Post by: Drew on June 07, 2005, 11:03:53 pm
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Originally posted by Dark RevenantX
Grades don't count for ****!  I have ****ty grades, but my IQ is 150 and my standardized tests are all well above proficient.


your one lazy smart-ass bastard



this whole **** is pointless both of them were total boobs kerry was a lying triple-faced boob and bush is a lying double faced boob their both failures and im better than both of them
Title: Kerry wasn't really that smart.
Post by: achtung on June 08, 2005, 12:00:27 am
Simply put almost all (if not all) politicians are dumbass snobs living off their parents fortunes and power.  and yes that statement applies to both Bush and Kerry.  If only we had people from back in the early 20th century they all seemed at least decent.

Go NADER! :nervous:

*Runs and hides in corner*
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Post by: NGTM-1R on June 08, 2005, 04:15:46 am
It's kinda like the Wizard of OZ, you know?

None of them have any brain, heart, or courage.
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Post by: Kosh on June 08, 2005, 05:18:39 am
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An observation I have made is that people underestimate bush's intelligence



You have completly forgot one thing: Bush is just a front. The person who is really doing everything is evilly intelligent.

 Bush is probably not that smart, but since he is just a front his intelligence really doesn't matter.
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Post by: DeepSpace9er on June 08, 2005, 06:27:03 am
You think Bush is a failure? He got elected twice to be President of the United States? What have you done in your life thats greater than the highest most prestigious office in the world?

You cant call a successful person a failure and still look like an intelligencia... you kinda look foolish.
Title: Kerry wasn't really that smart.
Post by: Unknown Target on June 08, 2005, 06:32:28 am
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Originally posted by redmenace
An observation I have made is that people underestimate bush's intelligence. And doing so is dangerous and partly why democrats lost the election. When you carry along within your self contempt, disdain and pride, such as Kerry's remark I can't believe I am loosing to this...., you you have made a fatell mistake. Just an observation.


It wasn't Bush who won, it was his media crew, campaign advisers, and Cheney.
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Post by: karajorma on June 08, 2005, 06:33:53 am
Caligula managed to get his horse elected to the Senate at one point. Does that mean that the horse was a great politician?
Title: Kerry wasn't really that smart.
Post by: Unknown Target on June 08, 2005, 06:38:01 am
Caligula was an emperor, he appointed his horse to senate :p
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Post by: karajorma on June 08, 2005, 06:51:01 am
Yeah but surely that takes even more machiavellian manouvering on the part of the horse doesn't it? :p
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Post by: redmenace on June 08, 2005, 09:33:10 am
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Originally posted by Unknown Target


It wasn't Bush who won, it was his media crew, campaign advisers, and Cheney.
and kerrys army of advisers telling him which demographic to kiss ass with would not have won the election? Yes of course the administration is bigger than one man, but it is easier to just refer to the president since that is the front in any administration.
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Post by: Kosh on June 08, 2005, 10:18:47 am
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You think Bush is a failure? He got elected twice to be President of the United States?



Yes, Bush has a history of being a failure. The only reason why he wasn't a failure to get the presidency (twice) is because people behind the scenes got him that position.

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 What have you done in your life thats greater than the highest most prestigious office in the world?


That's not really fair because I don't have any of the huge amounts of connections Bush has.

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You cant call a successful person a failure


Do you seriously believe this guy is a success? Do you know anything at all about his history?
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Post by: karajorma on June 08, 2005, 10:21:16 am
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Originally posted by redmenace
and kerrys army of advisers telling him which demographic to kiss ass with would not have won the election? Yes of course the administration is bigger than one man, but it is easier to just refer to the president since that is the front in any administration.


Both the Kerry and Bush were handicapped by their frontman. Neither side really gained votes because of anything the front man did. Kerry has next to no charisma and Bush is an idiot.

Both sides gained votes because of the stuff their campaign did to make their candidate look good. Everytime the candidate opened his mouth he merely convinced more of the undecided not to vote for him.
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Post by: aldo_14 on June 08, 2005, 12:18:06 pm
I couldn't really give a **** about relative intelligence.... all I was hoping for was change, so the President wouldn't have a popular mandate to continue ****ing up the world*.

:sigh:

*IMO
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Post by: 01010 on June 08, 2005, 01:51:25 pm
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Originally posted by aldo_14
I couldn't really give a **** about relative intelligence.... all I was hoping for was change, so the President wouldn't have a popular mandate to continue ****ing up the world*.

:sigh:

*IMO


Don't be so humble. It's not just an opinion Aldo, it's fact.
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Post by: Ford Prefect on June 08, 2005, 01:59:26 pm
I don't think any statement containing the phrase "****ing up the world" can be indisputable fact.
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Post by: 01010 on June 08, 2005, 02:01:34 pm
I need to see evidence before I can agree with you. :)
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Post by: Nuclear1 on June 08, 2005, 02:54:49 pm
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Originally posted by Ghost
Just kidding, I'm voting for McCain. Interesting how they praised Kerry as a 'Nam hero, and yet... McCain doesn't get jack**** for what he did.


Because he's a Republican 'Nam hero.  People like 'Nam heroes so long as they're not Republican. :rolleyes:  When John Kerry shows up on the scene and shows up on the scene and announces that he's against Bush, people vote for him, and then he says something along the lines of "Oh yeah, and I won three Purple Hearts in 'Nam".

The 'Nam hero part makes little difference in the long run; Kerry only got a lot of attention from either side simply because he was against Bush; the whole Democrat 2004 election was primarily an "anybody-but-Bush" race, and I'm sure a lot of Dems would have preferred Dean or someone else running instead of Kerry/Edwards.
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Post by: Ace on June 08, 2005, 03:24:25 pm
*grumbles*

Yet another reason why Dean should have won :p
Title: Kerry wasn't really that smart.
Post by: Deepblue on June 08, 2005, 05:16:11 pm
You mean this (http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/multimedia/dean_nuts.mpga) Dean?
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Post by: WMCoolmon on June 08, 2005, 05:29:25 pm
Dean Stockwell?
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Post by: Deepblue on June 08, 2005, 08:08:28 pm
Did you click on the link?
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Post by: Nuclear1 on June 09, 2005, 12:44:09 pm
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Originally posted by Deepblue
You mean this (http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/multimedia/dean_nuts.mpga) Dean?


Yes, that Dean.
Title: Kerry wasn't really that smart.
Post by: Deepblue on June 09, 2005, 09:32:51 pm
And you (not nuke) actually wanted him to win?
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Post by: Ford Prefect on June 09, 2005, 09:37:05 pm
I know I do. He's the only viable candidate who remotely resembles a liberal.
Title: Kerry wasn't really that smart.
Post by: Singh on June 10, 2005, 12:11:35 am
hmmmmmmmmmm......


And here I was with the assumption that becoming a politician automatically reduced one's intelligence level somewhat......


Probably still true though, in the sense is does make you dumber as to how your decisions effect the people under your command :p