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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: achtung on June 07, 2005, 03:09:47 pm
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050607/ap_on_re_us/kerry_grades
:ha:
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Difference:
Kerry ended up being a top notch politician and war hero.
Bush ended up being appointed to government by daddy, and went AWOL when it was his turn for combat.
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You can cling to that if you want...
A top notch politician!? A war hero?! You're kidding me...
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He was a much better politician than Bush - i.e - he was actually fairly elected to his office, not put there by his connections.
And he also recieved two purple hearts and commanded a PT boat during Vietnam. Much better than smoking pot and going AWOL, don't you think?
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Kerry got a D in PS, and at best, an 89 in the same.
Let's compare, shall we?
- Kerry got four D's his freshman year. Bush had one D throughout his whole college career.
- Kerry's D's happened to be in Political science and history classes. There's a "top-notch politician" for you -- someone who nearly flunks PS.
- Bush's only D was in astronomy, which should have little importance in a political career. However, he manages to pull off B's in history, anthropology, and philosophy.
- Kerry pulls off an 89 in PS his senior year.
Who's the idiot?
And I do not consider a "top-notch politician" someone who votes to reduce the US military to spitballs and then categorically deny and/or change his stance on that issue.
That's all.
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Originally posted by Unknown Target
And he also recieved two purple hearts and commanded a PT boat during Vietnam. Much better than smoking pot and going AWOL, don't you think?
Except for, you know...the whole killing bit.
Originally posted by nuclear1
Kerry got a D in PS, and at best, an 89 in the same.
And I do not consider a "top-notch politician" someone who votes to reduce the US military to spitballs and then categorically deny and/or change his stance on that issue.
That's all.
Do you realize that US military spending accounts for half of the entire world's military budget? Half. No one could possibly reduce the US military "to spitballs" if they tried. Hell, you could stop spending money today, and in 30 years it would still be the most powerful.
Unless you have it on good authority that Russia, China, Egypt, India, Brazil, Israel, North Korea, Britain, Japan, Germany, Mexico, France, Iran, Turkey, Argentina, Poland, Canada, Venezuela, Syria, South Africa, South Korea and Australia are all going to attack at once, don't talk to me about the poor, underfunded military.
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Shouldn't all these election arguments have stopped sometime last year?
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They're both idiots, and none of them got a single A thoughout their entire college career.
Nuff said.
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Bush probably bought his grades though. Of course, I don't like Kerry either nor any politicians for that matter. The founding fathers knew what they were talking about and it's all gone downhill since then. (except for ending slavery, etc.)
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What's the point? The only thing that matters is that we still have an idiot in office.
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Originally posted by Ghostavo
They're both idiots, and none of them got a single A thoughout their entire college career.
And yet these are the people the American people choose to represent them.
At least us Brits had no choice about John "3 GCEs" Major becoming leader of the Tories :p
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Solatar's political view:
Bush is an idiot. Kerry is stupid for losing to an idiot. Therefore, Bush is and idiot and Kerry is stupid.
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As if top academic grades automatically constitute leadership ability. The real idiots were the Dems who put an uncharismatic twit at the helm instead of someone like John Edwards, who could've actually given Bush a run for his money.
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Not really. The Democrats had no platform, even by US standards. They can't give anyone a pounding for Iraq, because they supported it, so they resigned themselves to crying over details. Same with PATRIOT etc. They tried to beat the Republicans at their own macho, militaristic, WE WILL CRUSH ALL ENEMIES game, and of course failed.
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Nader would've rocked.
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I never classify politicians as a high class of people...ever. They definitely all have their flaws.
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I'm still hoping for McCain. No real chance of that though.
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Originally posted by Ghostavo
They're both idiots, and none of them got a single A thoughout their entire college career.
Nuff said.
Very well put:yes:
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You know what? We should just have standardized testing for office. We can rank all the states, and then representatives will be allotted based on their scores on the exam. Cheaters will be thrown in a federal prison if they're caught, or automatically promoted to the Supreme Court if they get away with it, but come clean.
To keep everyone happy (intellectuals and the "everyman"), a coin flip following the exam will determine whether the highest scorer or the lowest scorer on the exam will get to be President. The next highest (or lowest) will get to be Vice President. The losing pair will end up as the Rhode Island senators.
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:lol:
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Originally posted by WMCoolmon
The losing pair will end up as the Rhode Island senators.
A plan is a plan. :lol:
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I vote for Darth Nader next election.
Just kidding, I'm voting for McCain. Interesting how they praised Kerry as a 'Nam hero, and yet... McCain doesn't get jack**** for what he did.
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Yeah, but even if McCain runs, he's not likely to win the primary. He's to moderate.
Nader just needs a ****load of money, to even the playing field, and he could run circles around any of 'em.
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Originally posted by Rictor
Unless you have it on good authority that Russia, China, Egypt, India, Brazil, Israel, North Korea, Britain, Japan, Germany, Mexico, France, Iran, Turkey, Argentina, Poland, Canada, Venezuela, Syria, South Africa, South Korea and Australia are all going to attack at once, don't talk to me about the poor, underfunded military.
you never know... :shaking:
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Well, then we're screwed, anyway, as every other nuclear power is attacking us, and if we attempted fighting using conventional tactics we'd be taken out by shear numbers.
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An observation I have made is that people underestimate bush's intelligence. And doing so is dangerous and partly why democrats lost the election. When you carry along within your self contempt, disdain and pride, such as Kerry's remark I can't believe I am loosing to this...., you you have made a fatell mistake. Just an observation.
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An observation I have made is that people overestimate most people's intelligence.
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Grades don't count for ****! I have ****ty grades, but my IQ is 150 and my standardized tests are all well above proficient.
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Originally posted by vyper
Nader would've rocked.
DARTH NADER IS NOT AMUSED.
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Originally posted by Dark RevenantX
Grades don't count for ****! I have ****ty grades, but my IQ is 150 and my standardized tests are all well above proficient.
your one lazy smart-ass bastard
this whole **** is pointless both of them were total boobs kerry was a lying triple-faced boob and bush is a lying double faced boob their both failures and im better than both of them
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Simply put almost all (if not all) politicians are dumbass snobs living off their parents fortunes and power. and yes that statement applies to both Bush and Kerry. If only we had people from back in the early 20th century they all seemed at least decent.
Go NADER! :nervous:
*Runs and hides in corner*
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It's kinda like the Wizard of OZ, you know?
None of them have any brain, heart, or courage.
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An observation I have made is that people underestimate bush's intelligence
You have completly forgot one thing: Bush is just a front. The person who is really doing everything is evilly intelligent.
Bush is probably not that smart, but since he is just a front his intelligence really doesn't matter.
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You think Bush is a failure? He got elected twice to be President of the United States? What have you done in your life thats greater than the highest most prestigious office in the world?
You cant call a successful person a failure and still look like an intelligencia... you kinda look foolish.
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Originally posted by redmenace
An observation I have made is that people underestimate bush's intelligence. And doing so is dangerous and partly why democrats lost the election. When you carry along within your self contempt, disdain and pride, such as Kerry's remark I can't believe I am loosing to this...., you you have made a fatell mistake. Just an observation.
It wasn't Bush who won, it was his media crew, campaign advisers, and Cheney.
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Caligula managed to get his horse elected to the Senate at one point. Does that mean that the horse was a great politician?
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Caligula was an emperor, he appointed his horse to senate :p
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Yeah but surely that takes even more machiavellian manouvering on the part of the horse doesn't it? :p
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Originally posted by Unknown Target
It wasn't Bush who won, it was his media crew, campaign advisers, and Cheney.
and kerrys army of advisers telling him which demographic to kiss ass with would not have won the election? Yes of course the administration is bigger than one man, but it is easier to just refer to the president since that is the front in any administration.
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You think Bush is a failure? He got elected twice to be President of the United States?
Yes, Bush has a history of being a failure. The only reason why he wasn't a failure to get the presidency (twice) is because people behind the scenes got him that position.
What have you done in your life thats greater than the highest most prestigious office in the world?
That's not really fair because I don't have any of the huge amounts of connections Bush has.
You cant call a successful person a failure
Do you seriously believe this guy is a success? Do you know anything at all about his history?
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Originally posted by redmenace
and kerrys army of advisers telling him which demographic to kiss ass with would not have won the election? Yes of course the administration is bigger than one man, but it is easier to just refer to the president since that is the front in any administration.
Both the Kerry and Bush were handicapped by their frontman. Neither side really gained votes because of anything the front man did. Kerry has next to no charisma and Bush is an idiot.
Both sides gained votes because of the stuff their campaign did to make their candidate look good. Everytime the candidate opened his mouth he merely convinced more of the undecided not to vote for him.
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I couldn't really give a **** about relative intelligence.... all I was hoping for was change, so the President wouldn't have a popular mandate to continue ****ing up the world*.
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*IMO
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Originally posted by aldo_14
I couldn't really give a **** about relative intelligence.... all I was hoping for was change, so the President wouldn't have a popular mandate to continue ****ing up the world*.
:sigh:
*IMO
Don't be so humble. It's not just an opinion Aldo, it's fact.
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I don't think any statement containing the phrase "****ing up the world" can be indisputable fact.
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I need to see evidence before I can agree with you. :)
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Originally posted by Ghost
Just kidding, I'm voting for McCain. Interesting how they praised Kerry as a 'Nam hero, and yet... McCain doesn't get jack**** for what he did.
Because he's a Republican 'Nam hero. People like 'Nam heroes so long as they're not Republican. :rolleyes: When John Kerry shows up on the scene and shows up on the scene and announces that he's against Bush, people vote for him, and then he says something along the lines of "Oh yeah, and I won three Purple Hearts in 'Nam".
The 'Nam hero part makes little difference in the long run; Kerry only got a lot of attention from either side simply because he was against Bush; the whole Democrat 2004 election was primarily an "anybody-but-Bush" race, and I'm sure a lot of Dems would have preferred Dean or someone else running instead of Kerry/Edwards.
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*grumbles*
Yet another reason why Dean should have won :p
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You mean this (http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/multimedia/dean_nuts.mpga) Dean?
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Dean Stockwell?
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Did you click on the link?
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Originally posted by Deepblue
You mean this (http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/multimedia/dean_nuts.mpga) Dean?
Yes, that Dean.
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And you (not nuke) actually wanted him to win?
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I know I do. He's the only viable candidate who remotely resembles a liberal.
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hmmmmmmmmmm......
And here I was with the assumption that becoming a politician automatically reduced one's intelligence level somewhat......
Probably still true though, in the sense is does make you dumber as to how your decisions effect the people under your command :p