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Title: Weird clicking noises coming from comp
Post by: Unknown Target on June 11, 2005, 06:03:39 pm
Hey guys. This morning I woke up and my computer was on a black screen "Please select correct boot device". I assumed it was like this because of a power outage (they're frequent where I live).
So I restarted the computer and all is fine. However, infrequently, I hear these loud CLICK CLICK CLICK coming from my computer. I don't know where they're coming from, but I don't exactly feel comftorable hearing them. Any ideas? :)
Title: Weird clicking noises coming from comp
Post by: aldo_14 on June 11, 2005, 06:14:52 pm
Something to do with the CD drive/s or HDD, I guess.
Title: Weird clicking noises coming from comp
Post by: Martinus on June 11, 2005, 06:26:22 pm
[color=66ff00]Yeah UT, back up pronto if you can still access your HDD, sounds like it might be on its last legs.
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Title: Weird clicking noises coming from comp
Post by: Taristin on June 11, 2005, 07:00:16 pm
I'll third that. HDD's click before they die.  I lost one to that already, and it was only a 2 year old drive.


BACK IT UP ASAP!
Title: Weird clicking noises coming from comp
Post by: Hippo on June 11, 2005, 07:24:13 pm
I fourth the hard drive proposition.
Title: Weird clicking noises coming from comp
Post by: Unknown Target on June 11, 2005, 07:32:45 pm
I have two though, I don't know which one it is! :(
Title: Weird clicking noises coming from comp
Post by: Genryu on June 11, 2005, 07:50:29 pm
HDD. No doubt about it. Hope you don't mind loosing data, since when it begins to click, it's generally very difficult to back up.
Title: Weird clicking noises coming from comp
Post by: Unknown Target on June 11, 2005, 07:53:33 pm
Well, how do I figure which HD is failing?
Title: Weird clicking noises coming from comp
Post by: Kie99 on June 11, 2005, 08:39:13 pm
What's with all the computer trouble lately?
Title: Weird clicking noises coming from comp
Post by: Scuddie on June 11, 2005, 08:53:22 pm
Sign of the apocalypse, kie.  Sign of the apocalypse.

Anyway, harddrives click when they're on their last leg, true.  But I have an old 8 gig drive that clicks, whines, grinds, and everything else.  But it's still running strong, and I use it for page files and temporary files.  It's been three years since it was acting up, but I dont see it going any time soon.

Anyhow, you have a choice.  Be on the safe side and backup everything and order a replacement ASAP, or be on the wild side and use the drive as much as you can before killing it.  Or maybe you can do both :\
Title: Weird clicking noises coming from comp
Post by: Hippo on June 11, 2005, 08:55:19 pm
pull one out, start up, listen. If noise is heard, replace removed drive, and back up other drive.

if no noise heard, replace drive, and back up same drive.
Title: Weird clicking noises coming from comp
Post by: Unknown Target on June 11, 2005, 09:14:24 pm
It's not a constant click. I've heard it twice, then used the computer for the entire day. I just shut it down for about 30 seconds, then turned it back on again with no problems thus far. So rebooting it is a problem, as only one of the drives can boot into windows - thus, I'd never be able to tell whether or not the drive was functioning, unless I sat in front of a computer screen for all eternity.

Is there any way I can do it software-wise?
Title: Weird clicking noises coming from comp
Post by: Liberator on June 11, 2005, 10:51:55 pm
joo hard drive ees dying...save vhat joo can, vhile joo can.
Title: Weird clicking noises coming from comp
Post by: Bobboau on June 11, 2005, 10:56:08 pm
dead hard drive
Title: Weird clicking noises coming from comp
Post by: Unknown Target on June 11, 2005, 11:10:24 pm
Which one is dying? Help me or you won't get a new installment of the movie for quite awhile (because my computer would be brooooken) :p
Title: Weird clicking noises coming from comp
Post by: Trivial Psychic on June 11, 2005, 11:33:51 pm
I had a similar problem with an IBM 30GB drive some time back.  Said drive is now dead, but it was some time between the first instances of the clicks, and the death of the drive.  When it first occurred, I had just bought a CD burner.  I was trying to burn some videos to save space on the main drive and it would always freeze up at one point and start clicking.  It turned out that there was a bad sector where one of those movie files was being stored.  I confirmed this when I tried to play the file and it started clicking again.  It was about 2 years later when I was performing a windows update that I guess it tried to write system files to a bad sector and it refused to work after that.  Eventually, the computer wouldn't read the drive at all.  Fortunately, just months before I had bought a 120GB WDC drive and had copied many files there to make use of the greater space.  I simply reinstalled my OS onto the new drive and went from there.

While your current drive may not necessarily be in imminent danger, it is a sign of death, either sooner or later.  I'd backup first, then run scandisk and make sure to an integrity scan as part of it.  Do this probably once a month.
Title: Weird clicking noises coming from comp
Post by: IceFire on June 11, 2005, 11:43:09 pm
Hard Drive.

Figure out which one (probably your C: as you indicated having trouble with a primary boot) and back it up before it dies.

Do you have your computer on a surge protector?  Power outages and the resulting restoration of power are bad for computers.  Never plug directly into the wall.  Always have a surge protector.  Mine is good to 3500 joules.  But I still unplug in a thunderstorm...nothing stops a direct lightning hit.
Title: Weird clicking noises coming from comp
Post by: Unknown Target on June 11, 2005, 11:52:39 pm
Probably was one of the power outages. I'll have to wait until my father gets home from his vacation before I can replace the drive though.

Will I lose any data if I copied the drive as it is now? And would any of this data damage the new HD?
Title: Weird clicking noises coming from comp
Post by: phatosealpha on June 12, 2005, 12:20:07 am
Depends.  The data somehow damaging the new HD is pretty much not gonna happen.  Whether or not you'll be able to get it though, that's a question.  If they're bad sectors in the data area, anything but the data in that specific area should be ok.  If it's in the system area, gets a little dicey.  If it's in the allocation tables, well, you're gonna have problems.

If you've got the time, you can use a full surface scan with scandisk, and it will find and mark the bad clusters.
Title: Weird clicking noises coming from comp
Post by: Kosh on June 12, 2005, 01:07:59 am
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IBM 30GB drive



IBM was a bad brand of hard drive. They were good for a while, but went bad (sort of like HP PC's).


Hard drive failures can happen to any brand of hard drive, but what determines what is a good brand depends on the percentage of sold hard drives that get RMA'd before their time. The lower this percentage, the better.
Title: Weird clicking noises coming from comp
Post by: Martinus on June 12, 2005, 04:12:37 am
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Originally posted by IceFire
But I still unplug in a thunderstorm...nothing stops a direct lightning hit.

[color=66ff00]Except ELECTRO!!!!1one

*cough*

As for loosing data UT, it's hard to say. If the drive heads have impacted the platter outside the 'landing' area then you'll lose something but it might be small. Irrespective this is something you want to do right away as it gets worse, fast.

Oh yeah, I can highly recommend Maxtor HDD's. I've had one fail on me in the last few years and that's because I was a tool and was messing with it.
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Title: Weird clicking noises coming from comp
Post by: kasperl on June 12, 2005, 04:22:58 am
Well, I can't say anything new. Just get your C: Drive backed up. And your other HD too, while you're at it, but that's  just if you've got time and CD-R's to spare.
Title: Weird clicking noises coming from comp
Post by: Bobboau on June 12, 2005, 04:48:27 am
you know this problem seems to be happening _A LOT_ over the last two or three years
Title: Weird clicking noises coming from comp
Post by: Kosh on June 12, 2005, 04:52:12 am
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Oh yeah, I can highly recommend Maxtor HDD's



I recommend Western Digitals myself. I can't remember what Maxtor's rep is. I've had a Western Digital in my desktop ever since the system first came online 3.5 years ago, and it's still running strong.
Title: Weird clicking noises coming from comp
Post by: Genryu on June 12, 2005, 05:28:01 am
I, for one, use Western Digital at home, and I'm buying maxtor for where I'm working.
Title: Weird clicking noises coming from comp
Post by: Unknown Target on June 12, 2005, 08:03:10 am
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Originally posted by Bobboau
you know this problem seems to be happening _A LOT_ over the last two or three years


Probably because of the big component rush back in 2002, 2003, and a lot of them are starting to break down? Or people's older computers are finally kicking the bucket?

Anyway...I'm just gonna have to get w/e spare HDs my dad has around in his office :)
Title: Weird clicking noises coming from comp
Post by: achtung on June 12, 2005, 04:27:38 pm
My old system has a maxtor and has ran strong for 6 years without a hitch.  The 80 gig on my new system has had no problems the 1 1/2 yrs ive had it.
Title: Weird clicking noises coming from comp
Post by: Taristin on June 12, 2005, 05:11:27 pm
Buy a Seagate HDD. I bought a maxtor, like Maeg is promoting, and it died on me. It was less than 2 yrs old.

Don't buy Maxtor. :p
Title: Weird clicking noises coming from comp
Post by: Kosh on June 12, 2005, 06:58:23 pm
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Originally posted by Raa
Buy a Seagate HDD. I bought a maxtor, like Maeg is promoting, and it died on me. It was less than 2 yrs old.

Don't buy Maxtor. :p



I've said it before and I will say it again: Hard drive failures can happen to ANY brand.
Title: Weird clicking noises coming from comp
Post by: Liberator on June 12, 2005, 10:29:41 pm
I've got a Seagate 2gb that still runs great after 10 years.
Title: Weird clicking noises coming from comp
Post by: Hippo on June 13, 2005, 07:49:39 am
But 2gb? :p Age is the explanation, but still...