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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Sandwich on June 12, 2005, 04:12:10 am
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http://www.entbloess.com/
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[color=66ff00]Mac: The beautiful computer a drunk person can use. ;)
My friend has a mac-mini and one of those 'everything built into the screen' macs. Both are excellent pieces of hardware but I need something to tinker with i.e. a PC. :nod:
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I'm considering a small (Mac-mini sized), nice-looking box to sit in the living room (when I move out of my parents' place), feed music to a set of Logitech Z-5500's, and every once in a while to hook up to a nice 24" widescreen for movie purposes. The problem is that Mac Minis don't have 5.1 sound output - they have stereo. :ick:
I guess I'll have to build my own mini-ITX machine. Ahh, the sheer customizability of PCs. :D
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Got Mac Exposé Envy?
Erm...no? :p
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what exactly does it do? all I'm seeing is a bunch of translucent windows, something that can be accomplished with a number of apps
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Speaking of Macs
(http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/images/comics/20050608.jpg)
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roflmfao @ redmenace & ctrl+alt+del
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Mmmm.
When I want to use the computer, I usually want to use it...Apple has really streamlined that process, and I don't think that's a bad thing. Just because it's easy to use doesn't make Macs somehow wimpy.
If only Microsoft were concentrating on making things more efficient rather than adding DRM crap into their OS.
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:lol: I'm still getting a Mac in the future, but I'll probably always have a PC.
Ooh, that program reminds me, I want to find a virtual desktop program.
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Originally posted by redmenace
Speaking of Macs
(CAD fanboyism)
God I hate that comic when it does that.
Though I have a Mac and I don't see what's so good about Exposé in the first place. It doesn't seem to do anything command-tab won't do.
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Originally posted by EtherShock
Ooh, that program reminds me, I want to find a virtual desktop program.
There's a powertoy thing released by Microsoft that does virtual desktops, though in a hackish way. You might try that. There's a supplement to daemon-tools that does that too.
BTW: No Windows or Mac users have any right to say anything about "big kids" computers anyhow. Try again when you do an LFS (http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/) install. ;)
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Since when does "big kids" = complicated and difficult?
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Originally posted by WMCoolmon
Mmmm.
When I want to use the computer, I usually want to use it...Apple has really streamlined that process, and I don't think that's a bad thing. Just because it's easy to use doesn't make Macs somehow wimpy.
If only Microsoft were concentrating on making things more efficient rather than adding DRM crap into their OS.
Thats definately true...the latest OS 10.4 is very snappy...even on those MacMini's. I work in a computer store that sells both...while the older iMacs suck for just about everything, the G4 towers, MacMini's, G5 iMacs, and the G5 towers are very impressive. If you want to run certain types of software...
...but they don't run all the software I want. Games noteably. We'll see when they go X86 Intel. It could be interesting if games suddenly worked on both and people really did switch.
STILL...I like being able to build and customize my own PC from the ground up. Changes like this may kick MS into gear. Optimization should be their middle name....but its not...its bloat.
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Big kids usually = more expensive.
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Originally posted by Sandwich
Since when does "big kids" = complicated and difficult?
I don't know, but that was the impression I got out of that Ctrl+Alt+Del comic. :p
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Speaking of big kids toys, I saw a SPARCbook at work today. Guy was buying it for $500 from his buddy's granddad's estate sale. It had 4GB of ram coupled with a 650mhz SPARC processor.
He brought it in, wondering if he could install the new Windows 64 bit on it, since it was a 64bit processor.
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My poor friends who have Macs can't get their laptops working with the wireless LAN at uni. Suckers. :p
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Originally posted by Sandwich
Since when does "big kids" = complicated and difficult?
Since they assumed that Macs must be for kids because the OS was designed to be cute looking and simple to use.
It's not exactly something that Windows can claim not to be guilty of. Especially when their main word processing application ships with a talking paperclip and the file search option insists on showing you a big animated puppy dog.
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Don't get me started on that ****ing paperclip (http://sectorgame.com/aldo/aw/clippy.jpg).........
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I'd seen it before but that still cracks me up :D
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:lol: There must be hatred of that paperclip than almost anything...
Mac Office users gets a little MacPlus on legs btw - cuter, but just as annoying!
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Originally posted by Clave
:lol: There must be hatred of that paperclip than almost anything...
:wtf: *whistles for Goober*
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Indeed...
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Heheh aldo...
I'm not sure what that entbloess thing is supposed to be for, so I won't comment. As for Macs, I like 'em, but I'm so used to Windoze that I can't be bothered to switch - too much time needed to learn. The one thing that annoys me about Mac OS is the lack of right-click options etc. Sure, they're there, but there doesn't seem to be anything like as many options or things to play with, or thing that I'd expect to be there (becuase they're there in Windows).
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It doesn't take much time to learn Mac OS, actually. It's designed to be intuitive. I found that learning it mostly involved unlearning the backwards ways of doing things that Windows often uses.
As for Entbloess, I looked at it for a while, and it wasn't bad, but in the end I went with TopDesk instead. It's more resource efficient, and wouldn't bring up windows that are supposed to be hidden.
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Originally posted by Sesquipedalian
It doesn't take much time to learn Mac OS, actually. It's designed to be intuitive. I found that learning it mostly involved unlearning the backwards ways of doing things that Windows often uses.
Yup - I'm just far too set in my ways. ;)