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Title: Batman Begins
Post by: Ghost on June 17, 2005, 07:32:38 pm: If there's another topic for this, I didn't see it.

If you haven't spent your money on this yet, get in your car, and go see it. Now. Immediately. It's so good, I can't even believe it. Someone give me a time machine so I can go watch the sequel.
Title: Batman Begins
Post by: pyro-manic on June 17, 2005, 08:33:21 pm: It's second on my "to-see" list, behind Sin City. Looks really good...
Title: Batman Begins
Post by: Kamikaze on June 17, 2005, 08:41:00 pm: I loved the atmosphere and casting of the film, it was quite wonderful. I'd say their actor and scripting for Alfred was the best of any batman movie, they actually made him a pretty damn cool character. In fact, I'm not sure there was much I didn't like about the movie. Maybe a bit of the initial plot was weak...
Title: Batman Begins
Post by: EtherShock on June 17, 2005, 09:49:13 pm: It was excellent! :yes: They did the best they could to make Batman/Bruce Wayne a three-dimensional character. Yeah, there are inconsistencies with the first movie, but I don't care. Did Batman ever have such a detailed origin story?
Title: Batman Begins
Post by: BlackDove on June 17, 2005, 10:36:49 pm: Movie of the year. (f u c k Star Wars)

Nice to know some franchises gone horribly wrong, can and have been redeemed.

Very well worth the money to buy a cinema ticket, much unlike many movies these days.
Title: Batman Begins
Post by: redmenace on June 18, 2005, 12:36:53 am: I got a non-date with a gurl next week to see it.
Title: Re: Batman Begins
Post by: Nico on June 18, 2005, 04:32:15 am: Quote
Originally posted by Ghost
If there's another topic for this, I didn't see it.

If you haven't spent your money on this yet, get in your car, and go see it. Now. Immediately. It's so good, I can't even believe it. Someone give me a time machine so I can go watch the sequel.

You already have 4 sequels available :p (and I do think the two first ones by Tim Burton were awesome).
Title: Batman Begins
Post by: Janos on June 18, 2005, 05:24:42 am: And we get Joker on the next one.

I think it kinda got worse in the end, but was still enjoyable. Apparently night blindness is necessary for GCPD as well .
Title: Batman Begins
Post by: Grug on June 18, 2005, 05:36:48 am: Awsome, I'm going to see this sometime during the week. :)
Title: Batman Begins
Post by: redsniper on June 18, 2005, 09:29:36 pm: I just saw it and it gets my approval. :yes:
I want a batmobile now.
Title: Batman Begins
Post by: Anaz on June 19, 2005, 03:12:03 am: just saw it too. Quite awesome, very nice atmosphere.

Spoiler:
BATMAN WAS RAISED BY NINJAS!!!!11
Title: Batman Begins
Post by: SadisticSid on June 19, 2005, 04:26:20 am: Saw it yesterday, thought it was crap. There was nothing wrong with the characters and Bale did pretty well I thought, but the plot was so extraordinarily weak and predictable that I couldn't take it seriously. Once the whole magic microwave machine that vaporizes water but doesn't boil humans alive came on I just stopped paying attention to the plot and took in the action sequences, which were unfortunately the high points of the film.
Title: Batman Begins
Post by: übermetroid on June 20, 2005, 12:09:42 am: Quote
Originally posted by SadisticSid
Saw it yesterday, thought it was crap. There was nothing wrong with the characters and Bale did pretty well I thought, but the plot was so extraordinarily weak and predictable that I couldn't take it seriously. Once the whole magic microwave machine that vaporizes water but doesn't boil humans alive came on I just stopped paying attention to the plot and took in the action sequences, which were unfortunately the high points of the film.

???? I thought it was a really good movie.
Title: Batman Begins
Post by: BlackDove on June 20, 2005, 09:33:48 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Janos
And we get Joker on the next one.

I think it kinda got worse in the end, but was still enjoyable. Apparently night blindness is necessary for GCPD as well .

You got Joker in the '89 one. Think "prequel".

Although a sequel to Begins would rock.

Also, people who don't like the movie think Batman is real. They don't get it's a fantasy setting. The the people who start analyzing aspects of the movie such as "There's no way a machine could exist that evaporates water but doesn't boil everything else either" are in my opinion disqualified from passing any judgment further down the line.

The fact people can have that sort of a mindset, yet go with the idea of watching a Batman (a fictional character for those of you who didn't know) movie consciously, is just simply amazing.
Title: Batman Begins
Post by: WMCoolmon on June 21, 2005, 03:43:29 am: Quote
Originally posted by BlackDove
Also, people who don't like the movie think Batman is real. They don't get it's a fantasy setting. The the people who start analyzing aspects of the movie such as "There's no way a machine could exist that evaporates water but doesn't boil everything else either" are in my opinion disqualified from passing any judgment further down the line.

The fact people can have that sort of a mindset, yet go with the idea of watching a Batman (a fictional character for those of you who didn't know) movie consciously, is just simply amazing.

I think that's a little unfair. The movie went to great lengths to show how Batman got to where he was Batman in a plausible manner. The microwave emitter sort of irked me, too, because it would've been real easy to get around the obvious problem of it roasting people. Either A) call it something else, or B) make it a mono-directional microwave emitter. As it was it greatly confused me, as I was under the impression that it'd caused the deaths of the people aboard ship and would have adverse effects on everyone near it.

Basically, if you're going to include an existing piece of technology that's in common use (in practically every food preparation area in America), it should function generally like it does in RL.

As far as predictability goes, I didn't notice it too much, I was too busy noticing the way things were all weaved together in the movie. At some points that was good, though, as in the theater.

I thought it was pretty enjoyable, despite that, and the music was pretty good.

Of course, at the rate Bruce Wayne reveals his "secret" identity, practically every female in Gotham City is going to know who he is. :p
Title: Batman Begins
Post by: Janos on June 21, 2005, 08:17:52 am: Quote
Originally posted by BlackDove

You got Joker in the '89 one. Think "prequel".

Although a sequel to Begins would rock.

Also, people who don't like the movie think Batman is real. They don't get it's a fantasy setting. The the people who start analyzing aspects of the movie such as "There's no way a machine could exist that evaporates water but doesn't boil everything else either" are in my opinion disqualified from passing any judgment further down the line.

The fact people can have that sort of a mindset, yet go with the idea of watching a Batman (a fictional character for those of you who didn't know) movie consciously, is just simply amazing.

We had Nicholson dressed as Joker. We didn't have the "real" comic book Joker. Seeing how they managed to keep most of the characters pretty much in line with the comics (except Batman's astonishing "I don't have to save you"), the Joker and Harvey Dent might actually resemble what they are supposed to - I don't know if they're going to throw some additional villains into the upcoming movies.
Also, this movie has nothing to do with previous Batman movies, except that it has Batman and Alfred as well. And Gotham city. And bats.
Title: Batman Begins
Post by: deep_eyes on June 23, 2005, 06:36:12 pm: yes and i went to see it today, the damn screen was off by 4 feet, and the film half way in the middle of it melted and caught on fire. rather ammusing.... loews blows.
Title: Batman Begins
Post by: Taristin on June 23, 2005, 06:43:24 pm: Bah, bicker bicker bicker... that's all you people ever do. :doubt:

it was a good movie, and it was just that, a movie. Get over it.
Title: Batman Begins
Post by: Fineus on June 23, 2005, 06:44:58 pm: Heh, thats the second time I've heard of a cinema catching on fire while showing this film. It happened to a friend of mine as well. Suspicious? :doubt:

(Spoilers ahead...)

As for my take on the film... I was highly impressed. I must admit it was a nice twist that the white caucasian guy was infact the head Ninja. Also, there were some great setups for further down the line (what with Joker and so forth). The sets and action sequences were all very nicely put together, and while the whole microwave boiling water but not people thing was a little far fetched - as has already been pointed out it's very much a fictional thing. Which rather conveniently gets them out of that problem... All in all, I rather liked it!
Title: Batman Begins
Post by: Jetmech Jr. on June 23, 2005, 06:46:35 pm: ****ing Batman.

I don't intend on seeing it in theaters. Might, just might, rent it, though. After all, it has Morgan Freeman.

Oh, and Kal:
Spoiler:
Use these tags. Thats what they're here for. :p

...please don't ban me.:nervous:
Title: Batman Begins
Post by: Fineus on June 23, 2005, 07:03:43 pm: Silence! :lol:
Title: Batman Begins
Post by: vyper on June 23, 2005, 07:07:52 pm: GAAH! Glasgow IMAX isn't showing it! Nooooooo!
Title: Batman Begins
Post by: Ghost on June 23, 2005, 07:16:49 pm: Neither are the Charlotte and Raleigh IMAX theaters... =(
Title: Batman Begins
Post by: Taristin on June 23, 2005, 08:00:15 pm: Hehe, Palisades IMAX is! And it RAWKED!
Title: Batman Begins
Post by: SadisticSid on June 23, 2005, 08:07:09 pm: Don't insult my intelligence BD. The microwave thing didn't make much difference really, it just stood out as something that was clearly silly and unresearched, and it marked the point where the film really started going downhill for me. If it had been called an inverted quantum vapourizer it wouldn't have made much difference. For me the film was just another fairly weak superhero comic-cum-movie with Batman instead of Daredevil. The acting was fine and the action was cool, but everything else was just cliched for the nth time and THAT's why I didn't enjoy it.
Title: Batman Begins
Post by: EtherShock on June 23, 2005, 09:03:05 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Raa
Hehe, Palisades IMAX is! And it RAWKED!

Palisades?

Hey, I know where that is!
Title: Batman Begins
Post by: aldo_14 on June 24, 2005, 05:01:28 am: Quote
Originally posted by vyper
GAAH! Glasgow IMAX isn't showing it! Nooooooo!

****!

I was going to see that this weekend.

Oh well, guess it's the UGC for me, then.
Title: Batman Begins
Post by: Taristin on June 24, 2005, 07:57:15 am: Quote
Originally posted by EtherShock

Palisades?

Hey, I know where that is!

Well, Technically, Nyack, but it's in the Palisades Mall...
Title: Batman Begins
Post by: EtherShock on June 24, 2005, 10:54:53 am: That's what I meant. I go there sometimes while at school.
Title: Batman Begins
Post by: Sandwich on June 24, 2005, 02:39:42 pm: Quote
Originally posted by deep_eyes
yes and i went to see it today, the damn screen was off by 4 feet, and the film half way in the middle of it melted and caught on fire. rather ammusing.... loews blows.

:lol: - that happened to me in the middle of Tomorrow Never Dies. :p
Title: Batman Begins
Post by: Knight Templar on June 24, 2005, 08:08:31 pm: Why is everyone so concerned with the science of the movie? It's ****ing Batman. Since when has science ever needed to be correct in Superhero movies?

My god you people, there were NINJAS.
Title: Batman Begins
Post by: WMCoolmon on June 24, 2005, 08:27:10 pm: They were so good I didn't even see them.
Title: Batman Begins
Post by: Sandwich on June 25, 2005, 06:13:06 am: :wakka:
Title: Batman Begins
Post by: EtherShock on June 25, 2005, 10:02:17 am: Interesting, that's never happened to me in a theater. The projector failed once, but that was it.

This movie had Ra's Al Ghul. You can't get better than that for a Batman villain. He's practically immortal. ^_^
Title: Batman Begins
Post by: redmenace on June 26, 2005, 12:04:46 am: :eek2: :nod:

I just saw it. And honetsly, I LOVED IT. I want to see it again.

But, as for the inconsistencies, I think they are reinventing the whole series though. I mean that they are practically throwing out what was done before. I mean the killer of his parents didn't even ask him, "tell me, have you even danced with the devil in the pale moon light?"
Title: Batman Begins
Post by: BlackDove on June 26, 2005, 12:27:48 am: Quote
Originally posted by SadisticSid
Don't insult my intelligence BD. The microwave thing didn't make much difference really, it just stood out as something that was clearly silly and unresearched, and it marked the point where the film really started going downhill for me. If it had been called an inverted quantum vapourizer it wouldn't have made much difference. For me the film was just another fairly weak superhero comic-cum-movie with Batman instead of Daredevil. The acting was fine and the action was cool, but everything else was just cliched for the nth time and THAT's why I didn't enjoy it.

Not insulting your intelligence. That's never the point.

I'm insulting your lack of imagination. The mere fact you want a quantum vapouriser, should show you how much you're focusing on the wrong aspect of the story.

The name of the movie isn't "Microwave evaporator OMGZ LOLZORZ ONLY WATER!".

Wrong

Thing

To

Focus

On

Personally I was judging the movie by its story, actors acting capabilities, execution, camera work, the way the directors and editors pieced it together, and the overall feeling I had when I finished watching it - all of it in comparison to the previous four, and my knowledge of comics/cartoons/series.

The thing was badass, and I wouldn't really call it clichéd. Yes, a lot of obvious stuff, and nothing too extravaganza when it comes to the mind aspect, agreed.

DUH - hello? It's Batman. You weren't expecting Rocket Science, were you? Attributing a downfall of a movie to some trivial matter such as that weapon is just simply inane.

Congrats on all the intelligence though.
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Post by: Knight Templar on June 26, 2005, 01:41:34 pm: Indeed.

Not only did the movie have NINJAS! but Liam Neeson as well. Those two alone are a combination to be hailed.

teh winnar!
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Post by: Taristin on June 26, 2005, 02:18:59 pm: Quote
Originally posted by EtherShock
That's what I meant. I go there sometimes while at school.

Eh? You live up here, too?
Title: Batman Begins
Post by: Ghost on June 26, 2005, 04:19:13 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Knight Templar
Indeed.

Not only did the movie have NINJAS! but Liam Neeson as well. Those two alone are a combination to be hailed.

teh winnar!

Not to mention how Liam Neeson WAS a ninja. Which made it even mroe awesome.
Title: Batman Begins
Post by: EtherShock on June 26, 2005, 05:33:53 pm: I guess we can let the ninja thing slide.

Quote
Originally posted by Raa

Eh? You live up here, too?

Not quite, I only live "up there" when at school. I live in central Jersey.