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Title: Can you crack the code... (the CIA cant!)
Post by: deep_eyes on June 20, 2005, 06:02:48 am
The Kryptos Code (in refrence to kryptos sculpture...)
For photograph go to bottom of page in link: http://www.cia.gov/cia/information/tour/kryptos_code.html

can u crack it =P

---------------the code-------------------

Left Side


E M U F P H Z L R F A X Y U S D J K Z L D K R N S H G N F I V J  
Y Q T Q U X Q B Q V Y U V L L T R E V J Y Q T M K Y R D M F D    
V F P J U D E E H Z W E T Z Y V G W H K K Q E T G F Q J N C E    
G G W H K K ? D Q M C P F Q Z D Q M M I A G P F X H Q R L G      
T I M V M Z J A N Q L V K Q E D A G D V F R P J U N G E U N A    
Q Z G Z L E C G Y U X U E E N J T B J L B Q C R T B J D F H R R  
Y I Z E T K Z E M V D U F K S J H K F W H K U W Q L S Z F T I    
H H D D D U V H ? D W K B F U F P W N T D F I Y C U Q Z E R E    
E V L D K F E Z M O Q Q J L T T U G S Y Q P F E U N L A V I D X  
F L G G T E Z ? F K Z B S F D Q V G O G I P U F X H H D R K F    
F H Q N T G P U A E C N U V P D J M Q C L Q U M U N E D F Q      
E L Z Z V R R G K F F V O E E X B D M V P N F Q X E Z L G R E    
D N Q F M P N Z G L F L P M R J Q Y A L M G N U V P D X V K P    
D Q U M E B E D M H D A F M J G Z N U P L G E W J L L A E T G    
E N D Y A H R O H N L S R H E O C P T E O I B I D Y S H N A I A  
C H T N R E Y U L D S L L S L L N O H S N O S M R W X M N E      
T P R N G A T I H N R A R P E S L N N E L E B L P I I A C A E    
W M T W N D I T E E N R A H C T E N E U D R E T N H A E O E      
T F O L S E D T I W E N H A E I O Y T E Y Q H E E N C T A Y C R  
E I F T B R S P A M H N E W E N A T A M A T E G Y E E R L B      
T E E F O A S F I O T U E T U A E O T O A R M A E E R T N R T I  
B S E D D N I A A H T T M S T E W P I E R O A G R I E W F E B    
A E C T D D H I L C E I H S I T E G O E A O S D D R Y D L O R I T
R K L M L E H A G T D H A R D P N E O H M G F M F E U H E        
E C D M R I P F E I M E H N L S S T T R T V D O H W ? O B K R    
U O X O G H U L B S O L I F B B W F L R V Q Q P R N G K S S O    
T W T Q S J Q S S E K Z Z W A T J K L U D I A W I N F B N Y P    
V T T M Z F P K W G D K Z X T J C D I G K U H U A U E K C A R    

Right Side

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z A B C D  
A K R Y P T O S A B C D E F G H I J L M N Q U V W X Z K R Y P
B R Y P T O S A B C D E F G H I J L M N Q U V W X Z K R Y P T
C Y P T O S A B C D E F G H I J L M N Q U V W X Z K R Y P T O
D P T O S A B C D E F G H I J L M N Q U V W X Z K R Y P T O S
E T O S A B C D E F G H I J L M N Q U V W X Z K R Y P T O S A
F O S A B C D E F G H I J L M N Q U V W X Z K R Y P T O S A B
G S A B C D E F G H I J L M N Q U V W X Z K R Y P T O S A B C
H A B C D E F G H I J L M N Q U V W X Z K R Y P T O S A B C D
I B C D E F G H I J L M N Q U V W X Z K R Y P T O S A B C D E
J C D E F G H I J L M N Q U V W X Z K R Y P T O S A B C D E F
K D E F G H I J L M N Q U V W X Z K R Y P T O S A B C D E F G
L E F G H I J L M N Q U V W X Z K R Y P T O S A B C D E F G H
M F G H I J L M N Q U V W X Z K R Y P T O S A B C D E F G H I
N G H I J L M N Q U V W X Z K R Y P T O S A B C D E F G H I J
O H I J L M N Q U V W X Z K R Y P T O S A B C D E F G H I J L
P I J L M N Q U V W X Z K R Y P T O S A B C D E F G H I J L M
Q J L M N Q U V W X Z K R Y P T O S A B C D E F G H I J L M N
R L M N Q U V W X Z K R Y P T O S A B C D E F G H I J L M N Q
S M N Q U V W X Z K R Y P T O S A B C D E F G H I J L M N Q U
T N Q U V W X Z K R Y P T O S A B C D E F G H I J L M N Q U V
U Q U V W X Z K R Y P T O S A B C D E F G H I J L M N Q U V W
V U V W X Z K R Y P T O S A B C D E F G H I J L M N Q U V W X
W V W X Z K R Y P T O S A B C D E F G H I J L M N Q U V W X Z
X W X Z K R Y P T O S A B C D E F G H I J L M N Q U V W X Z K
Y X Z K R Y P T O S A B C D E F G H I J L M N Q U V W X Z K R
Z Z K R Y P T O S A B C D E F G H I J L M N Q U V W X Z K R Y


:shaking:
Title: Can you crack the code... (the CIA cant!)
Post by: Nuke on June 20, 2005, 06:41:16 am
il give it to my mom, schizophreincs can crack anything. :D
Title: Can you crack the code... (the CIA cant!)
Post by: Zarax on June 20, 2005, 07:55:08 am
Translation: "All your bases belong to us" :p

I'd guess the right side is a positional key that has to be interpreted to decode the left side...

I'll make it the new password for my PC ;)
Title: Can you crack the code... (the CIA cant!)
Post by: Bobboau on June 20, 2005, 08:19:07 am
the neat thing about the right side is that it's got K R Y P T O S spelled left to right and top to bottom followed by the alphabet intersecting with it'self, sort of like an identity matrix.
Title: Can you crack the code... (the CIA cant!)
Post by: Ford Prefect on June 20, 2005, 01:41:36 pm
"I want a corned beef on rye, and don't drown it in mustard this time."

That's my guess, anyway.
Title: Can you crack the code... (the CIA cant!)
Post by: Ghostavo on June 20, 2005, 01:52:22 pm
Bobboau, the curious thing is that that is not the complete alphabet in the middle or right of the right side, several letters are missing, all from  the word Kryptos
Title: Can you crack the code... (the CIA cant!)
Post by: Rictor on June 20, 2005, 01:56:25 pm
If the CIA can't crack the code, then who made it? Supposedly the sculptor, but I doubt he has the upper hand when it comes to codes and cyphers.
Title: Can you crack the code... (the CIA cant!)
Post by: aldo_14 on June 20, 2005, 01:57:48 pm
'J EDGAR HOOVER WAS A TRANVESTITE HAHAHAHA'
'CONTRAS CAN PICK UP MONEY ROUND BACK'
'BAY OF PIGS?...  WHAT BAY OF PIGS?'
'WE KILLED KENNEDY'
Title: Can you crack the code... (the CIA cant!)
Post by: Col. Fishguts on June 20, 2005, 02:20:50 pm
"El Barto was here"
Title: Can you crack the code... (the CIA cant!)
Post by: Ulala on June 20, 2005, 05:59:15 pm
It's probably random.. so there's nothing to crack. :blah:
Title: Can you crack the code... (the CIA cant!)
Post by: FireCrack on June 20, 2005, 06:12:53 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Rictor
If the CIA can't crack the code, then who made it? Supposedly the sculptor, but I doubt he has the upper hand when it comes to codes and cyphers.



read the link, the sculptor and an ex-cia agent.
Title: Can you crack the code... (the CIA cant!)
Post by: Ulala on June 20, 2005, 06:20:56 pm
Doesn't change the fact the he could have just been sculpting random letters with a pattern here or there, and then claimed it's a secret message. ;)
Title: Can you crack the code... (the CIA cant!)
Post by: WMCoolmon on June 20, 2005, 06:35:30 pm
Convert all the letters into their ascii integers, add the remainder of dividing them by 42. Then convert it back to the letters/numbers/symbols. The whole message is actually in l33tsp34k. :p
Title: Can you crack the code... (the CIA cant!)
Post by: neo_hermes on June 20, 2005, 06:40:52 pm
i'm guessing it say's "Why am i trying to decode this and when am i getting my beer."
Title: Can you crack the code... (the CIA cant!)
Post by: Kamikaze on June 20, 2005, 09:02:10 pm
Maybe the sculptor felt like being really boring and used a one-time pad. :p
Title: Can you crack the code... (the CIA cant!)
Post by: deep_eyes on June 21, 2005, 09:15:47 am
Quote
Originally posted by Rictor
If the CIA can't crack the code, then who made it? Supposedly the sculptor, but I doubt he has the upper hand when it comes to codes and cyphers.


the cia made it themselves, but the ones who created the Kryptos code or better yet, those who actually use it arent "telling how" to crack it, cause its i think the current code system they are using still.

however, its there for us and the employees, theyre impying that its sooo hard to crack they can leave it right there infront of the world for us to go FUGG DUDE its hard!
Title: Can you crack the code... (the CIA cant!)
Post by: deep_eyes on June 21, 2005, 09:18:46 am
Quote
Originally posted by WMCoolmon
Convert all the letters into their ascii integers, add the remainder of dividing them by 42. Then convert it back to the letters/numbers/symbols. The whole message is actually in l33tsp34k. :p


I COMPLETLEY AGREE!

see:

in L33T


Translation:
@ b c d 3 ph g h i j /< 1 m n 0 p q r $ + u v \/\/ x y z @ b c d  
@ /< r y p + 0 $ @ b c d 3 ph g h i j 1 m n q u v \/\/ x z /< r y p  
b r y p + 0 $ @ b c d 3 ph g h i j 1 m n q u v \/\/ x z /< r y p +  
c y p + 0 $ @ b c d 3 ph g h i j 1 m n q u v \/\/ x z /< r y p + 0  
d p + 0 $ @ b c d 3 ph g h i j 1 m n q u v \/\/ x z /< r y p + 0 $  
3 + 0 $ @ b c d 3 ph g h i j 1 m n q u v \/\/ x z /< r y p + 0 $ @  
ph 0 $ @ b c d 3 ph g h i j 1 m n q u v \/\/ x z /< r y p + 0 $ @ b  
g $ @ b c d 3 ph g h i j 1 m n q u v \/\/ x z /< r y p + 0 $ @ b c  
h @ b c d 3 ph g h i j 1 m n q u v \/\/ x z /< r y p + 0 $ @ b c d  
i b c d 3 ph g h i j 1 m n q u v \/\/ x z /< r y p + 0 $ @ b c d 3  
j c d 3 ph g h i j 1 m n q u v \/\/ x z /< r y p + 0 $ @ b c d 3 ph  
/< d 3 ph g h i j 1 m n q u v \/\/ x z /< r y p + 0 $ @ b c d 3 ph g  
1 3 ph g h i j 1 m n q u v \/\/ x z /< r y p + 0 $ @ b c d 3 ph g h  
m ph g h i j 1 m n q u v \/\/ x z /< r y p + 0 $ @ b c d 3 ph g h i  
n g h i j 1 m n q u v \/\/ x z /< r y p + 0 $ @ b c d 3 ph g h i j  
0 h i j 1 m n q u v \/\/ x z /< r y p + 0 $ @ b c d 3 ph g h i j 1  
p i j 1 m n q u v \/\/ x z /< r y p + 0 $ @ b c d 3 ph g h i j 1 m  
q j 1 m n q u v \/\/ x z /< r y p + 0 $ @ b c d 3 ph g h i j 1 m n  
r 1 m n q u v \/\/ x z /< r y p + 0 $ @ b c d 3 ph g h i j 1 m n q  
$ m n q u v \/\/ x z /< r y p + 0 $ @ b c d 3 ph g h i j 1 m n q u  
+ n q u v \/\/ x z /< r y p + 0 $ @ b c d 3 ph g h i j 1 m n q u v  
u q u v \/\/ x z /< r y p + 0 $ @ b c d 3 ph g h i j 1 m n q u v \/\/  
v u v \/\/ x z /< r y p + 0 $ @ b c d 3 ph g h i j 1 m n q u v \/\/ x  
\/\/ v \/\/ x z /< r y p + 0 $ @ b c d 3 ph g h i j 1 m n q u v \/\/ x z  
x \/\/ x z /< r y p + 0 $ @ b c d 3 ph g h i j 1 m n q u v \/\/ x z /<  
y x z /< r y p + 0 $ @ b c d 3 ph g h i j 1 m n q u v \/\/ x z /< r  
z z /< r y p + 0 $ @ b c d 3 ph g h i j 1 m n q u v \/\/ x z /< r y
Title: Can you crack the code... (the CIA cant!)
Post by: Fragrag on June 21, 2005, 09:43:25 am
"We wuv fishies" O_o
Title: Can you crack the code... (the CIA cant!)
Post by: aldo_14 on June 21, 2005, 10:27:18 am
'WE WILL KILL YOU ALL'
Title: Can you crack the code... (the CIA cant!)
Post by: Falcon on June 21, 2005, 01:38:31 pm
Found something on google:

Click me! (http://www.ussrback.com/crypto/nsa/kryptos/cia-art-jg.htm)
Title: Can you crack the code... (the CIA cant!)
Post by: Cobra on June 21, 2005, 01:42:53 pm
damn, that guy is smart.
Title: Can you crack the code... (the CIA cant!)
Post by: Descenterace on June 23, 2005, 03:48:07 am
Looks like a version of the Vigenere Tableau, except that was broken centuries ago.
The Vigenere Cipher can be broken (if you know the length of the key) using frequency analysis. The Tableau in this case looks like a variant of the Caesarian Cipher, but that does not affect the method used to break the code.
So it seems to be a simple Vigenere cipher. All we need to do is find the length of the key, which must be done with trial and error. Although I'd be inclined to try 'kryptos' as the key initially...


Looking at the parts thus far deciphered, it seems I wasn't too far off. The problem with breaking codes such as this is that there are so many ways of using a matrix of letters...