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Title: What kind of Supernova was Capella?
Post by: Jetmech Jr. on June 24, 2005, 06:16:39 pm
Well?
Title: What kind of Supernova was Capella?
Post by: Solatar on June 24, 2005, 06:30:24 pm
The bright kind?

EDIT: in seriousness...it was artificially induced, so it probably doesn't go along well with normal classifications.
Title: What kind of Supernova was Capella?
Post by: karajorma on June 24, 2005, 06:38:59 pm
An artificial one :p


I'd say it has more in common with a Type II but to be honest I'd call it a type III and be done with it :D
Title: What kind of Supernova was Capella?
Post by: Nico on June 24, 2005, 06:54:31 pm
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It's a hollywood supernova, it's a nova that goes bang with a lot of fire and light, and burns up the whole solar system in a few seconds, which means it goes multiple times faster than light, too. What the hell, you think they actually thought about stuff like supernova kinds? :p
Title: What kind of Supernova was Capella?
Post by: Nuclear1 on June 24, 2005, 07:11:51 pm
Venico summed it up nicely.
Title: What kind of Supernova was Capella?
Post by: WMCoolmon on June 24, 2005, 08:38:25 pm
It's kind of like the one in Stargate episode 4x22.
Title: What kind of Supernova was Capella?
Post by: FireCrack on June 24, 2005, 09:27:05 pm
Type Ib or Ic The exerior would have been stripped by the satani.


Type Ia is fromed when matter collects around a neutron star

Type II is formed from stars geater than ~10 times the mass of our sun.

Capella is 2.5 times the mass of our sun.


The physics inquisition strike again!:drevil:
Title: What kind of Supernova was Capella?
Post by: Unknown Target on June 24, 2005, 09:32:10 pm
For pete's sake, it's a game, not a ****ing science expose'.
Title: What kind of Supernova was Capella?
Post by: Boomer on June 24, 2005, 09:52:39 pm
I call it an OS type.

OS as in, "Oh, ****!":D
Title: What kind of Supernova was Capella?
Post by: karajorma on June 25, 2005, 03:15:12 am
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Originally posted by FireCrack
Type Ib or Ic The exerior would have been stripped by the satani.


Type Ia is fromed when matter collects around a neutron star

Type II is formed from stars geater than ~10 times the mass of our sun.

Capella is 2.5 times the mass of our sun.


Good point. We do see Capella appear to get larger before it blows so it could be something related to a Ib.


BTW though Type 1a involves a white dwarf not a neutron star.
Title: What kind of Supernova was Capella?
Post by: FireCrack on June 25, 2005, 11:56:33 am
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Originally posted by karajorma

BTW though Type 1a involves a white dwarf not a neutron star.



Blast! my plans are foiled again!


I'l get you next tyme karojama! Next tiiiiimmmmmmmmmeeeeeeeeeee..............
Title: What kind of Supernova was Capella?
Post by: Trivial Psychic on June 25, 2005, 12:29:09 pm
Actually, IIRC, for a type 2 its less dependant on the mass of the star, but on the strength of the internal pressure from the core, in the form of thermonuclear radiant energy causing expansion.  If the Shivans' subspace weapon could disrupt all thermonuclear activety in the Cappelean sun at the same time, this expansive force would cease, causing the gravity of the star to collapse it in towards itself.  While thermonuclear activitey would cease, the synthesis of nutronium from electrons and protons that occurs when the core exceeds 1.2 solar masses might still occur, resulting in the massive energy release in the form of a supernova.
Title: What kind of Supernova was Capella?
Post by: FireCrack on June 25, 2005, 12:41:07 pm
But from the cutscene we can clearly see that the stars energy output does not dim, infact the star grows brighter. This leads to my assumption of Ib or Ic, faster burning could result in the stripping of the star's outer layers.
Title: What kind of Supernova was Capella?
Post by: aldo_14 on June 25, 2005, 12:54:22 pm
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Originally posted by karajorma


Good point. We do see Capella appear to get larger before it blows so it could be something related to a Ib.


I thought that was some sort of visual distortion from the subspace field (or whatever the Shivans did; given the visual similarity between the new tinge of the star and the 'void' between Sathani arms).

Like, say, the effect of a heat haze.
Title: What kind of Supernova was Capella?
Post by: achtung on June 25, 2005, 01:25:49 pm
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Originally posted by aldo_14


I thought that was some sort of visual distortion from the subspace field (or whatever the Shivans did; given the visual similarity between the new tinge of the star and the 'void' between Sathani arms).

Like, say, the effect of a heat haze.


What would be the point in that all the witnesses are going to be killed anyway and the sathani are so powerful they don't need any kind of stealth.
Title: What kind of Supernova was Capella?
Post by: karajorma on June 25, 2005, 01:33:24 pm
I personally reckon that the Shivans caused the collapse by creating a subspace field that filtered out photons leaving the core. Without that photon pressure the star would collapse inwards very quickly.
Title: What kind of Supernova was Capella?
Post by: aldo_14 on June 25, 2005, 01:58:50 pm
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Originally posted by Swantz


What would be the point in that all the witnesses are going to be killed anyway and the sathani are so powerful they don't need any kind of stealth.


I didn't say it was intentional, did I?
Title: What kind of Supernova was Capella?
Post by: Cobra on June 26, 2005, 09:46:28 pm
I'd say it was a BFS (Big ****ing Supernova) :D
Title: What kind of Supernova was Capella?
Post by: Grug on June 26, 2005, 09:55:57 pm
I'd say a :v: employee would look at this thread, shake his head, and then laugh his ass off. :p
Title: What kind of Supernova was Capella?
Post by: Cobra on June 26, 2005, 09:56:58 pm
no doubt. :p
Title: What kind of Supernova was Capella?
Post by: Taristin on June 26, 2005, 10:03:37 pm
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Originally posted by Grug
I'd say a :v: employee would look at this thread, shake his head, and then laugh his ass off. :p


I feel that way about this entire forum, at times...
Title: What kind of Supernova was Capella?
Post by: Ulala on June 28, 2005, 01:25:05 pm
Ouch. :p