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Modding, Mission Design, and Coding => FS2 Open Coding - The Source Code Project (SCP) => Topic started by: coldpenguin on June 27, 2005, 09:53:13 pm

Title: AVI main campaign movies
Post by: coldpenguin on June 27, 2005, 09:53:13 pm
Okay I don't know who thought up of it, but why does the game look for AVIs for the end cutscenes of main campaign? The only reason for main campaign AVIs is because most movies were nto included in the HotU release. However, the ending cutscenes were, which is why I didn't download the lower quality AVI versions. So anyway I beat the game and I don't see the cutscenes it just dumps me out. I tried removing the mv_core.vp from the directory, but that seems to haev no effect and I cant view the end game cinematics from the tech room. It seems silly to have to download lower quality AVI versions when I already have the original MVEs on my hard drive. Can anyone help.
Title: AVI main campaign movies
Post by: Taristin on June 27, 2005, 10:01:55 pm
No... It doesn't look for MVE because the MVE code is protected, and an alternative had to be found.
Title: AVI main campaign movies
Post by: coldpenguin on June 27, 2005, 10:20:18 pm
in the original freespace 2 the MVE files play fine.

The reason DivX AVI files were used was because they were much smaller in file size than the MVE files. If you were usign the HotU version and wanted to see the other cutscenes besides the ending ones, you were able to download AVI versions. There is no reason to download AVI versions of the endign cutscenes for anyone playing the game, as even the HotU version included those. MV_core supposedly included a modified table for the main campaign that told the game to look for AVI cutscenes for the main campaign instead of the MVEs. The game unmodified views the MVE files. It seemed silly to modify it to view ENDPRT1 ENDPRT2A ENDPRT2B AVI files is all I am saying. It's not a big deal though as I used a program I found called MVE-Play to watch the movies though.
Title: AVI main campaign movies
Post by: Taristin on June 27, 2005, 10:32:03 pm
The original FS2 had the cutscenes because the exe was made, the source was secretm anf therefore the code, owned by interplay, for the MVE format was safe.

When the source code was released, the MVE format was stripped out of it, to protect Interplay (somehow). It's because of copyrights, not because of size.

The cbanims were removed because of size...
Title: AVI main campaign movies
Post by: phreak on June 27, 2005, 10:40:54 pm
theres some potentially tricky legal issues surrounding MVE so it wasn't included in the original source release in 2002.  That was back when interplay was still in business.  I don't know if they'd care enough now if we managed to write an MVE codec, but i don't want to have a team of liars show up at my door.  Either way the MVE codec is rather lame, as the files are about 5x larger than they really should be, not to mention we don't have an encoder for MVE as well.
Title: AVI main campaign movies
Post by: Trivial Psychic on June 27, 2005, 10:44:39 pm
Regarding the CBAnis, I wonder if, once the animated jpg format Taylor mentioned is implimented, and if the original CBs were converted to said format from the current anis, would they end up as smaller files, for better ease of hosting.
Title: AVI main campaign movies
Post by: Ghost on June 27, 2005, 11:45:37 pm
I still say a cutscene maker dude should make new versions with the high poly models and glow maps and ****e. That'd be coo.


Then again, the whole Hallfight thing would be rather hard to do.
Title: AVI main campaign movies
Post by: Carl on June 28, 2005, 12:03:19 am
not if :v: would give us the freakin' models.
Title: AVI main campaign movies
Post by: Col. Fishguts on June 28, 2005, 04:15:27 am
The cutscenes are fine how they are, but someone who knoes how to do a high-quality multi-pass encoding should re-encode the DivX versions, since the current ones could look better.
Title: AVI main campaign movies
Post by: karajorma on June 28, 2005, 04:55:19 am
I did ask how when I encoded them the first time but no one gave me any more info than "Use VirtualDub" Which is what I was using already anyway.


I'm not 100% Certain that the quality of the avi files isn't due to MVE2AVI rather than the compression though. I don't remember the uncompressed Avi files looking that much better to be honest.


If someone who knows what they are doing wants to give it a try I'm more than willing to help.