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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Saturn2004 on July 01, 2005, 08:47:09 pm

Title: Question
Post by: Saturn2004 on July 01, 2005, 08:47:09 pm
Hey  guys   i will starting  school soon and i was  wondering if you  guys  can help me decide and pickout a  nice laptop

There are plenty of  laptops out there like  Alienware  M51 , Falcon  NW 's fragbook  , HP, Tosiba  and others
 I  dont need  a  fancy laptop, just one that will good with media(CD's  MP3's)  and office files (word ,etc)


Thanks  for your help
:)
Title: Question
Post by: aldo_14 on July 01, 2005, 08:52:33 pm
What kind of school?
Title: Question
Post by: Saturn2004 on July 01, 2005, 09:03:12 pm
College...
i will be taking liberal arts  and  computer programming (both HTML and C++)
Title: Question
Post by: Bobboau on July 01, 2005, 09:36:49 pm
you realy clasify HTML as 'programming'
Title: Question
Post by: Scuddie on July 01, 2005, 10:22:47 pm
Technically bob, it is a programming language.  Granted, it cannot serve any independant usefullness, neither did QuickBasic.  Since there is source (html) and compiling (browsing engine), it is indeed a programming language.  Just barely.
Title: Question
Post by: vyper on July 02, 2005, 08:15:38 am
So it's not school you're starting it's university?
Title: Question
Post by: Taristin on July 02, 2005, 08:39:56 am
's often referred to as college/school in the States.
Title: Question
Post by: vyper on July 02, 2005, 08:51:43 am
Stupidity is no excuse ;)
Title: Question
Post by: aldo_14 on July 02, 2005, 09:02:17 am
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Originally posted by Scuddie
Technically bob, it is a programming language.  Granted, it cannot serve any independant usefullness, neither did QuickBasic.  Since there is source (html) and compiling (browsing engine), it is indeed a programming language.  Just barely.


No it's not.  It's a markup language.

Programming language defines - at the most basic level - a set of linear steps to achieve a task.  

Markup language adds adjunct information which must be processed in some way by a program; it's simply a formatting method.
Title: Question
Post by: Turnsky on July 02, 2005, 09:38:52 am
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Originally posted by aldo_14


No it's not.  It's a markup language.

Programming language defines - at the most basic level - a set of linear steps to achieve a task.  

Markup language adds adjunct information which must be processed in some way by a program; it's simply a formatting method.


indeed, Java would be best described as a language, HTML just defines ****, really. like what goes where, what it is, and what it does.. a full fledged programming language would be what goes on with the program that reads the markup language (i.e, the browser)
Title: Question
Post by: Ford Prefect on July 02, 2005, 02:21:29 pm
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Originally posted by vyper
So it's not school you're starting it's university?

Learn to speak American. Over here, a "university" is a college that includes a graduate program.
Title: Question
Post by: vyper on July 02, 2005, 02:41:25 pm
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Originally posted by Ford Prefect

Learn to speak American. Over here, a "university" is a college that includes a graduate program.


Again, stupidity is no excuse. Don't "American" me boy, or I'll tax your tea so little you'll want another revolution...
Title: Question
Post by: Mongoose on July 02, 2005, 03:04:26 pm
Since when is using another term for the same institution considered to be "stupidity"? The word "university" always sounded far too stuck-up and snobbish to me, anyway. :p
Title: Question
Post by: vyper on July 02, 2005, 03:17:15 pm
A college is not a university. A college is a further education establishment used as a stepping stone between Secondary School and University, or between School and above-average employment.

A university is a place of academic excellence where students study for degree qualifications (whether they be Bachelor, Masters level or beyond).
Title: Question
Post by: Ford Prefect on July 02, 2005, 04:28:09 pm
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Originally posted by vyper
Again, stupidity is no excuse. Don't "American" me boy, or I'll tax your tea so little you'll want another revolution...

Bring it!


(http://www.archives.gov/digital_classroom/lessons/american_revolution_images/images/cornwallis_surrender.gif)


That's what happens when you speak the language the wrong way.
Title: Question
Post by: karajorma on July 02, 2005, 05:58:27 pm
I'll remind you that the last war between Britain and the US ended as a draw and involved the Brits/Canadians burning down your White House.
Title: Question
Post by: Ace on July 02, 2005, 06:03:05 pm
...and the only battle that we won in that war was fought by a pirate after the war was officially over ;)
Title: Question
Post by: achtung on July 02, 2005, 06:05:46 pm
I still smell rivalry between the two:drevil:
Title: Question
Post by: Ghost on July 02, 2005, 06:30:06 pm
Bah. Brits don't have guns. Game over.
Title: Question
Post by: aldo_14 on July 02, 2005, 06:32:19 pm
That's alright, we'll just outsmart you with our university educations and grasp of irony.
Title: Question
Post by: karajorma on July 02, 2005, 06:41:20 pm
Hell most Americans probably couldn't even find the UK on a map anyway. You'd probably invade France by mistake :)
Title: Question
Post by: aldo_14 on July 02, 2005, 06:44:51 pm
*Ssh!*

You'll spoil the plan!  They'd be all the way to Germany before they realised.........
Title: Question
Post by: Taristin on July 02, 2005, 06:57:13 pm
Oh joy... here we go again.

Can we drop the ethnocentrism, boys?
Title: Question
Post by: Ghost on July 02, 2005, 07:12:30 pm
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Originally posted by karajorma
Hell most Americans probably couldn't even find the UK on a map anyway. You'd probably invade France by mistake :)


Just one more remark, Raa, then I'll be done...

The UK(read: Britain) is that little island with the ****ty weather and ugly women, isn't it? :D  Just joking, guys... I give you permission to hit me if you ever see me in real life.
Title: Question
Post by: vyper on July 02, 2005, 07:15:04 pm
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Originally posted by Raa
Oh joy... here we go again.

Can we drop the ethnocentrism, boys?


I already have the government trying to control my thoughts, don't you start as well :p
Title: Question
Post by: Ford Prefect on July 02, 2005, 10:03:41 pm
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That's alright, we'll just outsmart you with our university educations and grasp of irony.

Yeah, your grasp of irony really shines in gems like "Keeping Up Appearances" and "Are You Being Served?". :D

And the Ivy League is over here, I do believe.
Title: Question
Post by: Ghost on July 02, 2005, 11:00:36 pm
Didn't Bush go to an Ivy League school? That's not saying much, Ford.
Title: Question
Post by: Scuddie on July 02, 2005, 11:28:06 pm
Get your filthy teeth out of here, you damn dirty brits!  Seriously, stop eating scones and start brushing your teeth :p.  Look how beautiful my teeth are :D.  Plus, theres a reason Ivy League is mainly US...  And that reason is good oral hygiene.
Title: Question
Post by: Unknown Target on July 02, 2005, 11:41:15 pm
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Originally posted by Ghost
Didn't Bush go to an Ivy League school? That's not saying much, Ford.



I don't think he did. And if he did, I know he got a degree in textiles, so he's just an idiot :p
Title: Question
Post by: achtung on July 03, 2005, 12:26:22 am
Do you all realize that you have gotten completely gotten off topic and are not helping saturn at all?:p
Title: Question
Post by: vyper on July 03, 2005, 07:31:32 am
Hush child, the racist grown ups are talking.

That's another thing - we produced the Spice Girls, you produced the KKK..  

We're sorry.

Edit:

On a more helpful note, Laptops...

http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/features.aspx/featured_dotw_inspn?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs

If you can afford $17/mo then you could have a nice Dell baby.
Title: Question
Post by: Saturn2004 on July 04, 2005, 04:24:16 pm
lol ,i have to  say this is one of the weirdest  threads  i ever  started lol
thanks for the help  swantz and vyper
Title: Question
Post by: aldo_14 on July 04, 2005, 06:16:55 pm
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Originally posted by Ford Prefect

Yeah, your grasp of irony really shines in gems like "Keeping Up Appearances" and "Are You Being Served?". :D

And the Ivy League is over here, I do believe.


*cough* (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0375355/)  If we're comparing cultural nadirs here, that is (not forgetting the god-awful US remakes of Fawlty Towers, One Foot in the Grave, etc - AFAIK the BBC, ITV et al have never seen a need to remake succesfull US sitcoms).

Y'know, I don't actually know what the Ivy league is.  All I 'know'- genuinely speaking - is that it's some bunch of dorm-school like 'colleges' with a nice reputation.  And I have very little respect for reputation, because it's used as a stupid way to bias against people in terms of education.
Title: Question
Post by: Ford Prefect on July 04, 2005, 07:03:33 pm
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Originally posted by aldo_14
*cough* (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0375355/)  If we're comparing cultural nadirs here, that is (not forgetting the god-awful US remakes of Fawlty Towers, One Foot in the Grave, etc - AFAIK the BBC, ITV et al have never seen a need to remake succesfull US sitcoms).

Y'know, I don't actually know what the Ivy league is.  All I 'know'- genuinely speaking - is that it's some bunch of dorm-school like 'colleges' with a nice reputation.  And I have very little respect for reputation, because it's used as a stupid way to bias against people in terms of education.

Yeah, our television is pretty embarrassing, but that's only because we're a big country and we make more stuff. If the UK were as big as we are, you'd be spewing the same amount of crap.

The Ivy League is a group of universities that includes Harvard and Yale, and while they are very good schools, you're actually right that their reputations tend to blow them a bit out of proportion. HOWEVER, with that said, the US's educational facilities actually are a distinguishing feature of the country. We really do have a lot of excellent colleges and universities, (one of which I will begin attending in late August. :D) Hell, we have MIT, arguably the greatest science school in the world.
Title: Question
Post by: aldo_14 on July 04, 2005, 07:09:27 pm
Albeit you do have to get into ludicrous amounts of debt to go to uni in the Us, so I'd say it's about even.

Although I'm not sure what the relative comparison of Us-UK degrees (and the rest of the world for that matter).  All I know is that my exam results say I'm ****ing smart, my academic record says I'm ****ing smart, and my degree certificate says I'm very ****ing smart, so if some HR dickhead only wants graduates from Cambridge, Oxford, St. Andrews* et al they can shove their job up their arse for being so narrow minded.

*I don't know why St.Andrews was on that sort of 'top' list for applicants... their Cs department is very nice (It was just refurbed - I was up meeting one of the profs there a while back), but it's not AFAIK any better than anywhere else in Scotland.  More elitism, I suppose)
Title: Question
Post by: Skippy on July 04, 2005, 07:19:35 pm
Well, what was the thread about before going nowhere as usual?

I agree with vyper, Dell laptops are good
Title: Question
Post by: vyper on July 04, 2005, 07:31:47 pm
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Originally posted by aldo_14
Albeit you do have to get into ludicrous amounts of debt to go to uni in the Us, so I'd say it's about even.

Although I'm not sure what the relative comparison of Us-UK degrees (and the rest of the world for that matter).  All I know is that my exam results say I'm ****ing smart, my academic record says I'm ****ing smart, and my degree certificate says I'm very ****ing smart, so if some HR dickhead only wants graduates from Cambridge, Oxford, St. Andrews* et al they can shove their job up their arse for being so narrow minded.

*I don't know why St.Andrews was on that sort of 'top' list for applicants... their Cs department is very nice (It was just refurbed - I was up meeting one of the profs there a while back), but it's not AFAIK any better than anywhere else in Scotland.  More elitism, I suppose)


You should try going to Caley. Then again, it wasn't that long ago Glasgow referred to you guys as "the tech". The irony is the one thing that has made places like Yale, MIT, Glasgow, Cambridge, Oxford, etc so "powerful" is the one thing that is going to kill them in the long term - research based institutions are black holes for money, since industry is usually ahead of them anyway.

Basically though, it's all simply class based in the UK.

Laptops
Then again, if you can get something on the cheap (i.e. a lesser known brand like iFriend), go for it.
Title: Question
Post by: Knight Templar on July 04, 2005, 07:35:56 pm
You ****tards, this is about laptops.

And America isn't the one who calls cookies 'bicuits', so try checking yourself next time before you get all high and mighty.
Title: Question
Post by: vyper on July 04, 2005, 07:38:04 pm
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
You ****tards, this is about laptops.

And America isn't the one who calls cookies 'bicuits', so try checking yourself next time before you get all high and mighty.


You know, if I could invoke Gaelic (which no, I sadly can't speak)...