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Off-Topic Discussion => Arts & Talents => Topic started by: Turnsky on July 03, 2005, 10:58:01 pm
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t'was a bit on the bored side, and drew this up
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Turnsky/Sketches/FS_stuff.jpg)
a little explanation on the beams, there has been one thing that irked me about FS2's ship designs was the fact that the beams on the orions either used the plasma turrets, or the small plasma turrets on the side..they just seemed....wrong..
these are propositions for something that would make an updated orion "look the part".
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hmm...the turret designs look simple...it could probably be made quite easily in DoGA CGA....
Nice perspective on the Fenris though :yes: :)
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Originally posted by Singh
hmm...the turret designs look simple...it could probably be made quite easily in DoGA CGA....
Nice perspective on the Fenris though :yes: :)
well i was trying to keep to the relatively simple design of the turrets, drawing from the modern types of beam cannons (they look like barnacles some of them) and the older types present on the old ships
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well, i got something...it isn't exactly like the original, but at least its something :)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v107/anandraj/Beam1.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v107/anandraj/Beam2.jpg)
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Cool. :yes:
And heya Singh, got any rear screens of that model. ^_^
I reckon that's actually cool enough to spend the effort to get it ingame...
When you consider it done, try exporting it to something that can be imported into 3ds max. (3ds or obj I think you mentioned you can get too?)
If no-one else volunteers, I'll have a go at rigging it up for ingame use and optimizing it a bit... :)
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close enough, as long as the design philosaphy is relatively intact, now try giving it textures and parking in on an orion ("draw" from the original turret textures so it doesn't look brand spankin' new, more like a retro-fit)
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singh i think ur model is better cant wait till we can actually use on an orion
no offence turnsky
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Very nice Turnsky.
By the way, you need to get on AIM/ICQ more often. :-p
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Ok, I've managed to edit it quite a bit and make it a slightly higher poly/better quality. What do you think?
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v107/anandraj/Beam3.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v107/anandraj/Beam4.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v107/anandraj/Beam5.jpg)
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****ing fantastic
from the side view, it looks like 1 of those circus cannons
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Personaly, i'm more of a fan of the "disk" turrets, but hell, this dont look bad! And considering the ones on the orion are kinda a retrofit, why not!
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Originally posted by FireCrack
Personaly, i'm more of a fan of the "disk" turrets, but hell, this dont look bad! And considering the ones on the orion are kinda a retrofit, why not!
well, exactly, notice i did draw the disc type beam cannons there, they would look like a less "refined" version of the more modern ones that can be found on the hecates, etc.
Singh, kudos on the design.. can't wait to see 'em textured and on a high-poly orion. ;)
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ermm....about textures - I'd rather no do em, at least, not in DoGA. I have enough trouble exporting it such that all the geometry comes out, but including textures screws up the export almost completely.
I'll upload the converted model tonight for anyone else to take a crack at it though :)
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Originally posted by Singh
ermm....about textures - I'd rather no do em, at least, not in DoGA. I have enough trouble exporting it such that all the geometry comes out, but including textures screws up the export almost completely.
I'll upload the converted model tonight for anyone else to take a crack at it though :)
fair enough
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Here we go:
clicky! (http://freespaceserver.cjb.net/singh/Beam.rar)
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Those sketches are nice. I like the beam cannon Singh. :yes:
I think a turret should be easy to texture. ;)
But I'm not sure about the look of the texture...
Ideas?
@Turnsky BTW did you check your PMs in the last time? ;)
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Originally posted by Singh
Ok, I've managed to edit it quite a bit and make it a slightly higher poly/better quality. What do you think?
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v107/anandraj/Beam4.jpg)
thers a problem wit that one (and may all uv done) we kno it can fire on an angle, but it doesnt look like it can fire at 90 degrees. my opinion move the cannon forward a bit. i reckon its good, but it just doesnt look like it can get to 90 degrees, an i reckon thats a great flaw
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Originally posted by Aquatayne
thers a problem wit that one (and may all uv done) we kno it can fire on an angle, but it doesnt look like it can fire at 90 degrees. my opinion move the cannon forward a bit. i reckon its good, but it just doesnt look like it can get to 90 degrees, an i reckon thats a great flaw
You could do either that, or bevel out the part that swivels so it's kinda caved inwards with the back of the turret.
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or raise the supports
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I hate to put a damper on stuff, but so far as I know you can't do side-mounted multiparts...
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If someone fixes any probs up, lods it and UV maps it, I'll make the textures for it if you want. ^_^
Originally posted by ngtm1r
I hate to put a damper on stuff, but so far as I know you can't do side-mounted multiparts...
To the SCP mobile! :cool:
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Cut:
*HLP logo on spinning colorfull background zooms out to infinity*
*SCP logo zooms in from infinity to cover view*
wait a sec, arent al the main beams on the orion vertical anyways?
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dont think so
all i kno is that all turrets are the same
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Nope. :)
It's got it's main beam (the BGreen IIRC) on it's chin multipart turret, and all the others are on those little side turrets that look like smaller versions of the big turrets. They're only single-part ones, though.
Thinking about it, the Orion's beam placement is decidedly odd. Pre-beams, it's main guns were the large turrets on the top and underneath, with the side turrets being smaller secondary guns. With the beams added, the small turrets become the main battery, and the multi-parts stay with the blob lasers. That would require massive internal modifications, as the power requirements for the beams would be much greater than that of the lasers. So there would have to be a major refit of the power grid inside the ship...
Nice turret, Singh, and great sketches Turnsky. :)
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hence why i drew those turrets up, i kinda figured it was odd that some campaigns used the main turrets as the beam cannon (see Derelect or even warzone, i think) it just looked odd.
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So the slash beams are the top bug gun and the bottom big gun at the back?
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Originally posted by ngtm1r
I hate to put a damper on stuff, but so far as I know you can't do side-mounted multiparts...
As odd as it sounds, it gives me a different idea for a rather....different type of turret :drevil:
To DoGA!