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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Knight Templar on July 04, 2005, 07:29:57 pm
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..pick one Civil Liberty or Right (I.E. the ammendments, supreme court rulings, etc.) from the U.S. Constitution to deem essential to Democracy and disregard all the others, which would it be and why?
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first, because I can prety much use it to get everything i lost from the others
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..... Aside from the first.
Everyone and their mothers would say the first. Get creative.
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How about a list for us non Americans?
I'm assuming the first is freedom of speech? I would take either speech or the freedom or overthrow the government should it become tyranical. Of course, you can do that anyway, but I think that even today it is not seen as legitimate, which is important. Of course, the Second Amendment (guns) would be a crucial part of that package.
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The Twenty-First (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-first_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution). :p
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I'd say freedom of speech; everything about human rights, democracy. etc is built upon the right to freely express your beliefs and opinions.
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THe Constitution (http://www.house.gov/Constitution/Constitution.html)
Ammendments (http://www.house.gov/Constitution/Amend.html)
The first ten ammendments being the Bill of Rights.
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Originally posted by WMCoolmon
The Twenty-First (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-first_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution). :p
did you mean this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-first_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution)
[edit]what the hell...
ok... in the form it looks right but when you click on it it adds an underscore
remove the _from before first in 'twenty-_first'
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Is the spirit of Magna Carta an option?
I'd also accept the Declaration of Arbroath (sp?)
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No and No.
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The right to see boobs.
(Just to avoid making a mockery of this thread, I'll go with freedom of expression for the aforementioned reasons.)
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Fifth... if you cant own property, free speech doesnt account for much eh.
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
..... Aside from the first.
Everyone and their mothers would say the first. Get creative.
The second. Otherwise you have no way to protect the rest of your rights.
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The Fifth comes first, the First second, and the Second third.
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Originally posted by Goober5000
The second. Otherwise you have no way to protect the rest of your rights.
:nod:
Indeed.
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The 26th I guess...
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Originally posted by Goober5000
The second. Otherwise you have no way to protect the rest of your rights.
:nod:
On a side note, **** the Fifth Admendment, actually **** the supreme court. The Admendment is supposed to protect property owners.
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Yeah. But it's not like end running that one is anything new. The whole affair with drug seizures where it was deemed that property didn't have amendment rights (thus letting the cops seize property of suspected drug dealers and pretty much keep it guilty or not) went by without a peep from the general public.
As for the question, I think I'll take number 10 for 100 alex.
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If all but one of the constitutional rights goes, then democracy no longer exists. Therefore there is little point in picking one. :p
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1. I like being able to say what I want
2. I wanna be able to stop my gov. if it takes other rights away
3. I like owning my own property it gives prupose to the other two above (and it keeps the hobos away :nervous: )
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Originally posted by Kosh
If all but one of the constitutional rights goes, then democracy no longer exists. Therefore there is little point in picking one. :p
Not necesarily.
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Originally posted by WMCoolmon
The Twenty-First (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-first_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution). :p
Oh yeah, I don't know why that's so clever, there already is a 21st amendment.
Anyway, I think I'd have to go with Article 14, section 1. If I were to avoid the first, that is.
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KT: There's an error in de link, as Bob said, remove the underscore after twenty-. Also, the 21th removes the 18th, the Prohibition.
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
..... Aside from the first.
Everyone and their mothers would say the first. Get creative.
yeah. everyone picks the first, and the seventh, and the thirteenth, and the fifth, and the seventeenth.
... c'mon people. get creative.
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:rolleyes:
Obviously, I need trendier principles.
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Originally posted by Stealth
and the seventeenth.
ACK! Not the seventeenth! :ick: That one needs to be repealed.
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Originally posted by Goober5000
ACK! Not the seventeenth! :ick: That one needs to be repealed.
Why?
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Originally posted by Stealth
yeah. everyone picks the first, and the seventh, and the thirteenth, and the fifth, and the seventeenth.
... c'mon people. get creative.
Oh peer pressure, you're a harsh mistress!
But don't look at me, I chose the second. Lock and load, baby.