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Title: Fantasy
Post by: Nico on July 07, 2005, 05:00:22 pm
I know, that's not exactly what rocks people's boat around here but it's been so long I haven't posted anything around here, so why not:
(http://www.cobraworld.net/nico/vod/BvsA.jpg)

I know, it's dark, but my fantasy universe isn't called Veil of Darkness for nothing :p

Background is an edited photo from google, the meshes and maps are by me.
Title: Fantasy
Post by: Ghost on July 07, 2005, 06:21:47 pm
Eep. Time to run.
Title: Fantasy
Post by: FireCrack on July 07, 2005, 06:23:56 pm
Wow, that picuture is rediculously dark.

Cool though, but still too dark.
Title: Fantasy
Post by: Anaz on July 07, 2005, 06:39:10 pm
Nifty. My only complaint is that the landscape lighting doesn't match the rendered stuff's lighting, so it looks blatantly composited, and not evil being removed from its natural habitat by some brave (or foolish) adventurer.
Title: Fantasy
Post by: Taristin on July 07, 2005, 07:52:34 pm
Sad how that creature has better chompers than most people I see during the day.
Title: Fantasy
Post by: icespeed on July 07, 2005, 08:07:10 pm
cute. i want one for my birthday. i could keep it in the scorpion pit and throw people i don't like in there to play with it.

although it looks like two different pictures put one on top of the other. what anaz said about lighting, i suppose.
Title: Fantasy
Post by: Unknown Target on July 07, 2005, 08:34:26 pm
The rendering and stuff looks great, but the composition isn't too good :(
Title: Fantasy
Post by: Grug on July 08, 2005, 04:25:00 am
Awsome looks cool. :)

Any more details on why, what your doing this for? ^_^
Title: Fantasy
Post by: Nico on July 08, 2005, 05:13:15 am
Mmmh... Thought the compo was ok, but I guess it's not.
Grug: for fun. You need a reason? :p
Title: Fantasy
Post by: Sigma957 on July 08, 2005, 05:28:44 am
Looks great,is it yelling or is about to eat the little fella? :lol:
Title: Fantasy
Post by: karajorma on July 08, 2005, 05:33:12 am
I like it. A little too dark though. It makes it hard to see some of the details.
Title: Fantasy
Post by: Nico on July 08, 2005, 05:40:57 am
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Originally posted by Sigma957
Looks great,is it yelling or is about to eat the little fella? :lol:


Yelling. Yeah, now I realize the compo is crap, the mob should seem like it's quite far away. Guess I'll give up on composition and go back to the good old "all 3D".
Title: Fantasy
Post by: Gortef on July 08, 2005, 11:36:18 am
*ROAAAARRR*

"Good Muffy, now you allmost sound as fightening as you look."

Nice pic ^^
Title: Fantasy
Post by: pyro-manic on July 13, 2005, 02:38:55 pm
Very cool beastie. :yes:
Title: Fantasy
Post by: Grug on July 14, 2005, 06:58:36 pm
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Originally posted by Nico
Mmmh... Thought the compo was ok, but I guess it's not.
Grug: for fun. You need a reason? :p


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Originally posted by Nico
I know, it's dark, but my fantasy universe isn't called Veil of Darkness for nothing


I was under the impression you were making it for a story or game or whatnot.
My bad.

Still cool though. ^_^
Title: Fantasy
Post by: aldo_14 on July 14, 2005, 07:05:48 pm
kerayzee

Something odd about the vaseline-on-lenses focus, though.
Title: Fantasy
Post by: Nico on July 14, 2005, 07:13:58 pm
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Originally posted by Grug
I was under the impression you were making it for a story or game or whatnot.
My bad.


Just ignore what I say.
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Originally posted by aldo_14
Something odd about the vaseline-on-lenses focus, though.


wot?
Title: Fantasy
Post by: Grug on July 14, 2005, 08:14:17 pm
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Originally posted by Nico


Just ignore what I say.


What? :p
Title: Fantasy
Post by: NGTM-1R on July 14, 2005, 08:22:49 pm
I'm surprised no one has commented on the apparent resemblence to a Doom 3 critter or three...
Title: Fantasy
Post by: Grug on July 14, 2005, 08:46:48 pm
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Originally posted by ngtm1r
I'm surprised no one has commented on the apparent resemblence to a Doom 3 critter or three...


Huh? :p

Now that you mention it, the beasty does remenisc somewhat of a Pinko... :shaking:
Title: Fantasy
Post by: Nico on July 15, 2005, 05:30:59 am
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Originally posted by ngtm1r
I'm surprised no one has commented on the apparent resemblence to a Doom 3 critter or three...


Never played Doom3 (save for the demo), you have a pic?
Anyway, I've drawn that beast for years, you'll find it in some of my agendas (which are more full of sketches than things to do ~~) back from 1998. It's just a big monster with 2 heads, so it can't be devastatingly original anyway. IIRC the human jaw was inspired by the xenomorph from alien, back then.
Title: Fantasy
Post by: aldo_14 on July 15, 2005, 05:50:18 am
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Originally posted by Nico

wot?


Hard to say.  I think it's contrast between the 3d and the background (which is pretty hard to avoid in any sort of case); at first I thought it was blurring due to depth of field or similar, but it may just be that you've got lower detail on the foreground than background.

anyways, I got the impression the background - the trees - was sharper than the forground objects (person, monster, etc).
Title: Fantasy
Post by: Nico on July 15, 2005, 06:52:07 am
It's probably true, "visually" speaking (as opposed to "accurately" speaking) because of the background image grain.
I have two good ways to deal with most of the complains abiove, sadly, first one I don't like and second one is no good for suh a subject:
1) turn greyscale. tint is usually what screws up incrustation, no mmater how much time you spend on it, the global lighting tint will mess things up, because it is not, contrary to what it's called, global. It varies over the pic, and for the incrustation, it has to vary the same way. It is difficult to actually spot, but the general feeling itself will stand out and be clearly visible
2) add subtle noise. The background is grainy, the rendered incrustation is not. No need to say more I guess.
All in all, composition is a thing that needs more time than what I obviously want to spend on it, so I'll give up on that. (darn, an nobody even noticed the reflection of the mob in the water ~~ )
Title: Fantasy
Post by: vyper on July 15, 2005, 07:28:56 am
Looks quite Resident Evil-ish actually.
Title: Fantasy
Post by: Mefustae on July 15, 2005, 07:50:34 am
It looks like when Cerberus knocked up the Xenomorph Queen, and BAM! You've got yourself a Two-Headed Freak and a Paternity Suit on your hands! :p
Title: Fantasy
Post by: NGTM-1R on July 15, 2005, 12:33:06 pm
It doesn't actually look like any specific Doom 3 critter, but it shares several traits with them, like the skin texture and stretchy-ness.

I used to have some links for the subject but seem to have lost them...I'll get back to you on pics.
Title: Fantasy
Post by: Nico on July 16, 2005, 05:20:09 am
Ah well, can't do much about that, it's a matter of same taste. Vyper, well, curse me, but I've never played RE either :lol:
Title: Fantasy
Post by: Nico on July 16, 2005, 07:26:51 pm
Sketchyness!
(http://www.cobraworld.net/nico/vod/apostle.jpg)
I'm doing the 3d version of that one. Actually, the mesh is about done, just need to refine the hair and do the maps.

credits: I shamelessly stole the halo from that pic :p:
http://www.xavier-marquis.com/page3.php?page=1&recherche=&id=9&cat=1&titre=ILLUSTRATIONS&total=14

I thought that the idea of a man-made halo rocked, and since the design was cool enough, I even kept it, let's make this a cameo (since I love Marquis work anyway, it's only justice - I even asked the guy for advices once, and he kindly answered back, so I have respect for him too: praise him!).
Title: Fantasy
Post by: pyro-manic on July 16, 2005, 07:41:10 pm
Great sketch. :nod::yes: I think the face is perhaps slightly "squashed" (not tall enough), but the armour is great.
Title: Fantasy
Post by: Nico on July 17, 2005, 08:41:14 am
Thanks.
A map:
(http://www.cobraworld.net/nico/vod/map.jpg)

I have a 3000² with natural colors version, but I'll spare you the loading (and me the uploading :p)
Title: Fantasy
Post by: pyro-manic on July 17, 2005, 10:14:40 am
Whoa. Is this based on having higher sea levels or something? Cool.

*Idea* Perhaps you could make it look like one of those 15th-Century maps, you know, the hand-drawn ink ones? That could look really special.
Title: Fantasy
Post by: Nico on July 17, 2005, 10:54:47 am
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Originally posted by pyro-manic
Whoa. Is this based on having higher sea levels or something?


Nah, but I confess I kindda followed the relief.

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*Idea* Perhaps you could make it look like one of those 15th-Century maps, you know, the hand-drawn ink ones?


That's the plan, someday, when I'm less lazy :p
Title: Fantasy
Post by: Nico on July 17, 2005, 08:48:08 pm
well well, I'm happy with this one ^^:
(http://www.cobraworld.net/nico/vod/apostle2.jpg)
Left to do: face, hair, hands, then I'll give her her spear and a shield.

note: she's "low" poly (6488 triangles, with a unique meshsmooth on the face), and uses a single 1024*1024 map.
Title: Fantasy
Post by: Ace on July 17, 2005, 10:39:13 pm
As opposed to a glowing halo, I'd make it part of the helmet. Also add in some fancy engraving there, etc.
Title: Fantasy
Post by: Martinus on July 17, 2005, 11:51:18 pm
[color=66ff00]Awesome work, the only thing I was thinking was that the fringe was a bit too large but if you'e happy with it then that's all that matters. :nod:
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Title: Fantasy
Post by: Nico on July 18, 2005, 04:45:56 am
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Originally posted by Ace
As opposed to a glowing halo, I'd make it part of the helmet. Also add in some fancy engraving there, etc.


There's no helmet, and I just put the glow for fun, t's not supposed to be there ;)
Title: Fantasy
Post by: Ace on July 18, 2005, 05:07:24 am
Oh, that's supposed to be hair then... Oh well :p
Title: Fantasy
Post by: Nico on July 18, 2005, 05:09:43 am
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Originally posted by Nico

Left to do: face, hair, hands, then I'll give her her spear and a shield.


Ever heard of placeholders?
Title: Fantasy
Post by: Ace on July 18, 2005, 05:47:36 am
Okay... okay... so I didn't read the fine print :p

She's still a helmet-head ;)
Title: Fantasy
Post by: Rott3 on July 18, 2005, 05:49:40 am
Me likes :nod:
Title: Fantasy
Post by: Grug on July 18, 2005, 08:14:09 am
Wow, that's awsome. :D ^_^

It's refreshing to see some human models for a change. :)


You can't tell me all this has no purpose but fun. Surely you have a plan or something. A map, model of person with spear.
You making a BF2 mod or something?  :p
Title: Fantasy
Post by: Nico on July 18, 2005, 11:18:55 am
no :p
Title: Fantasy
Post by: pyro-manic on July 21, 2005, 03:37:43 pm
Awesome. :nod:
Title: Fantasy
Post by: StratComm on July 21, 2005, 03:47:25 pm
Something that's been bothering me about this: would a girl, especially one so formly, actually be able to wear form-fitting chainmail?

Oh, and awesome work as always Nico :)
Title: Fantasy
Post by: pyro-manic on July 21, 2005, 04:20:53 pm
It's probably got Velcro or a zip up the back. ;) Or it's magic stretchy chainmail. One of the two....
Title: Fantasy
Post by: Nico on July 21, 2005, 04:51:48 pm
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Originally posted by StratComm
Something that's been bothering me about this: would a girl, especially one so formly, actually be able to wear form-fitting chainmail?


Don't ask :p
Title: Fantasy
Post by: icespeed on July 22, 2005, 01:19:07 am
don't see why not. it's like stretch denim, normally denim's not exactly form-fitting, bit stiff even, but stretch denim moulds contours... i'm a fan because i recently bought a pair of stretch denim jeans for an amazing TEN DOLLARS, which is about eight times cheaper than usual, very exciting.

anyway back to the point. she's pretty cute, nico, nice work. seems a bit top-heavy tho, the armour i mean, looks like her back might snap if she tipped over. *shrugs* but who cares about reality when aesthetics is in play?
Title: Fantasy
Post by: Nico on July 22, 2005, 05:10:12 am
(she's... cute?)
Yeah, stretching mail sound good ^^ - and I suppose there's no need for it to be magic to stretch anyway.
As for her back... well, these guys are strong enough, don't worry.
Title: Fantasy
Post by: Nico on July 22, 2005, 01:48:57 pm
update:
(http://www.cobraworld.net/nico/vod/apostle3.jpg)
She's basicaly done, just need her weapons, and maybe a couple things I'll have missed out and will notice later.

edit:
http://www.cobraworld.net/nico/vod/walkingapostle2.avi

Little test animation. It's not perfect (a couple distorsions, for exemple around the belt, on the front), but it's better than I expected, correcting the skinning won't be a big deal. The robe works about fine, I'm happy with it (but the metalic parts should be rigid, I'll have to fix that).
Title: Fantasy
Post by: pyro-manic on July 22, 2005, 07:56:43 pm
Ooh, evil eyes. :D And I just noticed the wing-like shoulder pads - I like.
Title: Fantasy
Post by: icespeed on July 23, 2005, 10:34:33 pm
she's cute... as in not ugly and distorted? are girls not allowed to... ah... appraise girls now?

the eyes look too bright out of that shadow (which is actually quite a cool effect) and her neck's too short, or appears to be because of her armour (which is totally not a cool effect).
Title: Fantasy
Post by: Black Wolf on July 24, 2005, 06:40:25 am
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Originally posted by icespeed
don't see why not. it's like stretch denim


It's a massive bunch of iron chain links... it's absolutely nothing like stretch denim.

It wouldn't be practical. There's not enough play in chain mail for her to be able to bend in something that tight, let alone put it on. But as Nico implied, we don't need to talk about that sort of stuff. :)
Title: Fantasy
Post by: aldo_14 on July 24, 2005, 02:06:37 pm
It's rare to see a female fantasy character who isn't wearing 2 kleenexes for clothes......

Walk animation looks good to me.
Title: Fantasy
Post by: Nico on July 24, 2005, 03:36:49 pm
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Originally posted by icespeed
she's cute... as in not ugly and distorted? are girls not allowed to... ah... appraise girls now?


On the defensive right away ~~

I just mean, cute, I don't know, maybe I'm mistaken, but I give a particular meaning, for exemple, I say cute for a kitten, but use that word for a... ah well, never mind, let me just ignore this ~~.
Title: Fantasy
Post by: NGTM-1R on July 24, 2005, 08:38:39 pm
Nico uses cute like I do, to refer to children and fuzzy animals. Cute doesn't scan as a description of anything else for me.
Title: Fantasy
Post by: Nico on July 25, 2005, 10:22:26 am
Nah, I also refer to women as cute when they're... more cute than gorgeous - cuteness being a different sort of beauty than gorgeousness... How the hell am I supposed to explain that anyway? :p
Title: Fantasy
Post by: Grug on July 25, 2005, 11:17:04 pm
When they have that kind of 'innocent' puppy look on them sorta. That's how I see cute in women, which can also incinuate sexy, but not always.

To me, cute is kind of "damn that's nice" in a non-sexual way. Tis hard to explain...

When all else fails... (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=cute)
Title: Fantasy
Post by: Gortef on July 26, 2005, 04:13:38 am
Wow, she looks great. Really superb job :nod: