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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Nuke on July 12, 2005, 05:05:25 am
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i just went out on a nice lengthy date. it was kinda cool. shes a really good looking goth chick. i started talking to her online a day or two ago and aparently she works at the same store i do. i guess she already knew who i was and we had a good conversation or two online so i had no problem asking her out. we grabbed some coffee and we went out to the local glacier for a nice mountain hike. after reachingn an altitude of several hundred feet we found a nice vantage point on a moss covered cliff. we sat and talked for several hours. holding eachother we watched the tourists scurry about the visitors center down below and staring out across the iceburg filled lake. afterwards we went to her place and she introduced me to her friends and her cats. we watched a movie. again we held eachother. we got in the car and went out to the store. i helped her go shopping with her friends for household supplies. after that we went back and watched another movie. and continued th hold eachother ever so gently. at evenings end we went around dropping her really cool friends off about town. we got to my place and i invited her up to meet my cats, who really liked her. we talked for abit more and i showed her my graphics talents. i was a gentleman and i dint want to go too far on the fitrst date, i walked her to her car. we held eachother in the darkness and she was gone. i think were definately gonna have another date. we were very compatable. i cannot wait to see how this turns out. it was the best day i had in quite awhile.
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:yes:
Congrats :D
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Firstly, congrats. Secondly, if you ever make me read a paragraph as badly formatted as that again I'll rip your ****ing nuts off. :p
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you both have many cats. what movies did you watch?
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I thought this was gonna be about Nuclear bombs passing there expiration dates...
Congratulations Nuke, you have done what a geek hasn't done before, and you surpassed it
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Pics man! pics! ;)
Anyhow, congratulations mate - I hope things work out well for you both. She sounds like a cool girl!
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Aw, how romantic.
Hope things work out. :)
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Pics or ban.
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You can find someone to date in Alaska, yet here in Southern California everyone I find even vaguely interesting is already married...what is the world coming to?
Congrats man.
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Originally posted by ngtm1r
You can find someone to date in Alaska, yet here in Southern California everyone I find even vaguely interesting is already married...what is the world coming to?
Congrats man.
Are you hitting on people who are much older than you or something...? :wtf:
Married at 20 is a little... fast tracking. o.O
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To say the least.
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I have a friend who is married, she's 24, so is her husband. He's been married twice. O,o
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Originally posted by Grug
Are you hitting on people who are much older than you or something...? :wtf:
Married at 20 is a little... fast tracking. o.O
I'm 19 and I am engaged, getting married Feb next year. It isn't fast tracking, it just depends if you've met the right person thats all.
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Originally posted by Nuke
i was a gentleman and i dint want to go too far on the fitrst date, i walked her to her car.
Nuke's such a considerate nihilist! :D
Congrats, dude -- can't go wrong with a goth chick.
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Originally posted by ngtm1r
You can find someone to date in Alaska, yet here in Southern California everyone I find even vaguely interesting is already married...what is the world coming to?
Congrats man.
Seems the game of numbers and odds doesn't work when it comes to dating or the like. Could be nobody around and find the right person or be surrounded by hundreds of beautiful women and not a single one of them is actually interesting beyond the exterior.
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sorry no pics yet, im sure il produce some eventually
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Originally posted by Nuke
sorry no pics yet, im sure il produce some eventually
That'd probably be weird on a first date anyways...
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Originally posted by Ford Prefect
Congrats, dude -- can't go wrong with a goth chick.
They're no better than any other kind of chicks, you know. There's the nice ones, then there's the nutters, the violent ones, the monomaniachs, the psychotic with suicidal tendencies ones, the retarded ones, the arrogant ones, the narcissic ones, the "Im the center of the world and you're ought to worship me" ones, the "I can't stop talking someone make me stop talking!!!" ones, the "I'm smarter than everybody else, you arse" ones, the "how dare you!" ones, etc.
Well, the common ones, so to speak.
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I wasn't speaking in terms of personality -- just making a superficial generalization with regards to physical appearance.
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Originally posted by Nuke
shes a really good looking goth chick.
I honestly did not know they existed.
I also utterly love how Alaskan first dates occur "at the local glacier". You guys rock :D
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Originally posted by Ford Prefect
I wasn't speaking in terms of personality -- just making a superficial generalization with regards to physical appearance.
Well there's also ugly goths, mind you :p
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You were dating before? :nervous:
You can find someone to date in Alaska, yet here in Southern California everyone I find even vaguely interesting is already married...what is the world coming to?
Congrats man.
Yeah, I know what you mean. It seems like the key to finding a good woman is to get one to date someone else. :p
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There's some nice Goths on Suicide Girls - oh to be dating again...;7
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congrats Nuke! Me, at 15 I have yet to go on a single date. Not for lack of trying, mind you. I've got a bit of a 'reputation' at my school for doing various outrageous things.
Ah well in the past year I've gained a few friends (before I was known to a lot of people, but not exactly friends), some of which are female, and I'm just enjoying myself and trying not to crush my own soul in despair!
Must. Learn. Restraint.
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Have you walked up and asked a girl out in front of her friends, in front of a movie theater, not realizing she already had a boyfriend? :p
Edit: two months after last seeing her, IIRC.
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Originally posted by Grug
Are you hitting on people who are much older than you or something...? :wtf:
Married at 20 is a little... fast tracking. o.O
Then they're fast-tracking.
Or those folks who aren't married are boring bums. Figures...
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Originally posted by Gai Daigoji
I'm 19 and I am engaged, getting married Feb next year. It isn't fast tracking, it just depends if you've met the right person thats all.
You're 19 and going to get married? I'm 20 and I've never even been out on a date before. :nervous:
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Originally posted by Nico
They're no better than any other kind of chicks, you know. There's the nice ones, then there's the nutters, the violent ones, the monomaniachs, the psychotic with suicidal tendencies ones, the retarded ones, the arrogant ones, the narcissic ones, the "Im the center of the world and you're ought to worship me" ones, the "I can't stop talking someone make me stop talking!!!" ones, the "I'm smarter than everybody else, you arse" ones, the "how dare you!" ones, etc.
Well, the common ones, so to speak.
if you ever bothered to monitor my personality youd soon realise that im more compatable with goths, that any other type of girls. you are more likely to get along with somone who shares some of your personality traits than somone who doesnt.
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[color=66ff00]Too true Nuke. :yes:
I'm kinda stuck in limbo at the minute as far as relationships are concerned, too much to do and not enough time. I have to admit that I'm not especially bothered though. I used to fret over the whole relationship affair like it was the most important thing ever but then after a while I realised that women are just people too and a fair percentage of them aren't worth the time or effort.
As for the ones who are, I'll get around to trying to find one later. :nod:
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Originally posted by Maeglamor
[color=66ff00]As for the ones who are, I'll get around to trying to find one later. :nod:
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I'm with you there. :yes:
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Originally posted by Black Wolf
I also utterly love how Alaskan first dates occur "at the local glacier". You guys rock :D
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Originally posted by ngtm1r
You can find someone to date in Alaska, yet here in Southern California everyone I find even vaguely interesting is already married...what is the world coming to?
When I was in Northern California, most of the women I were interested in were either married or engaged, sucked for me.
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were going out again friday, im taking her out for dinner on the waterfront. alaska is a good place when it comes to romantic locale.
ah fudge, guess i get to miss the scifi lineup, wonder if there will be an encore :D
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What, she doesn't watch Stargate Atlantis?
Pssh, and you think she's an outcast... :p
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i think she likes some sci-fi, b5 in particular.
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You guys should watch scifi friday on your date, then. If she won't do it, dump her. She's not worth dating. :nod:
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Originally posted by Nuke
if you ever bothered to monitor my personality youd soon realise that im more compatable with goths, that any other type of girls. you are more likely to get along with somone who shares some of your personality traits than somone who doesnt.
Not necessarily. Actually, I found the couples that seemingly looked the least well matched to work the best, among my friends.
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Originally posted by Carl
You guys should watch scifi friday on your date, then. If she won't do it, dump her. She's not worth dating. :nod:
If your standards are that high, then it's no wonder any of you are single.
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Many congrats, sir. :yes: :nod:
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Originally posted by EtherShock
If your standards are that high, then it's no wonder any of you are single.
High standards are a perfect excuse for being single :D
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Originally posted by Black Wolf
I also utterly love how Alaskan first dates occur "at the local glacier". You guys rock :D
:lol: :lol:
Piccies!
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patience
dam you guys are a bunch of pervs
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Hell yes.
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hey she seems pretty cool nuke. congrats. she sounds like she's worth taking it slow. so do.
nico, you have problems with girls or something? you should know, guys can be losers too. so don't pick on the chicks.
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Originally posted by icespeed
hey she seems pretty cool nuke. congrats. she sounds like she's worth taking it slow. so do.
nico, you have problems with girls or something? you should know, guys can be losers too. so don't pick on the chicks.
Both equally as bad I say!
I think nico is aware of this fact but you never know :)
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Originally posted by Nuke
it was the best day i had in quite awhile.
Funny how girls can do that. :nod:
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Originally posted by Ulala
Funny how girls can do that. :nod:
I wouldn't know. :p
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Originally posted by icespeed
nico, you have problems with girls or something? you should know, guys can be losers too. so don't pick on the chicks.
Nah, no problem with the chicks, why'd you ask? :p
It's just I love picking fights with girls, and I knew you'd post back :D Don't worry, I like women, women are one of the only things that make my life worth living ;)
And yeah, I know guys can be losers too, I should know, I'm one of them.
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Originally posted by Nico
Nah, no problem with the chicks, why'd you ask? :p
It's just I love picking fights with girls, and I knew you'd post back :D Don't worry, I like women, women are one of the only things that make my life worth living ;)
And yeah, I know guys can be losers too, I should know, I'm one of them.
LOL Nico...and knowing is half the battle is it not? :)
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What battle? I'm happy being one, I'm not fighting against it :p
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It was a referece to the GI Joe PSAs at the end of every show. In other words, a joke, but one that you couldn't get because I doubt they showed it overseas.
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Family Guy took the piss out it recently.
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LoL.
*Highly amused at this continuing thread*
*Couldn't be bothered quoting and replying to all the particular posts. :p
I start uni on Monday. I'm looking forward to making some new friends, and maybe a few new intimiate friends too... ^_^
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Originally posted by Grug
LoL.
*Highly amused at this continuing thread*
*Couldn't be bothered quoting and replying to all the particular posts. :p
I start uni on Monday. I'm looking forward to making some new friends, and maybe a few new intimiate friends too... ^_^
Thats what I thought...
Four years later. Nothing to show for it...nothing a'tall. Not for lack of trying...but no opportunities.
Lets see there was the:
1) Already going out with BF for 2 years
2) Ditto except for 3 years
3) J.H. doesn't date outside of that circle (fair enough)
4) Same as 1 and 2
5) No interest
6) Snatched away before I said anything (these things happen quickly!)
7) Disallusionment - thats where I'm at right now
And some in between that I won't bother.
Sorry to burst the bubble. Maybe you'll be luckier.
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People say that the university is a lot different from high school, but I can testify from personal experience that is not true. There are only 3 things that are different:
1.) There is a lot more homework
2.) There are a lot more people
3.) There is a helluva lot more drinking
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Originally posted by Kosh
People say that the university is a lot different from high school, but I can testify from personal experience that is not true. There are only 3 things that are different:
1.) There is a lot more homework
2.) There are a lot more people
3.) There is a helluva lot more drinking
1) Yes but its mostly self directed and not due the next day
2) True
3) In Canada, by the time your in university, you're either legally allowed to drink or almost about to be legally allowed to drink...either way, its nice to walk into a campus pub and get a beer if you want it
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Originally posted by IceFire
Thats what I thought...
1)seeing someone
2)see #1
3)see #1
4)got married
5)see #1
6)nice but an airhead
7)moved to kansas
8)see #1
9)seemed to like me then one day stopped talking to me
10)started dateing a guy moments before I was to make a move, then got pregnent
11)not sure, when I talk to her she seems to like me, but I haven't seen her in 2 months, and she's only called me twice without me calling her first.
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College is very similar to high school if you go close to home, because everything is the freakin' same. It's all the same crap, nothing new. The best advice I can give is to go far away from home. Try a completely new environment. And if you can't afford to, get a loan. They'll almost give any college student one.
As for my romantic life, here are some of the more interesting instances:
- Was interested in me but lost it when I made my move
- Really religious
- No chemistry
- Engaged
- Married
- Disappeared before I could make my move
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[color=66ff00]Don't get downhearted guys, consider those who haven't even asked a girl out. There's a surprising number of them.
I live in quiet optimism; I'm interesting to hang out with, reasonably smart and well regarded by just about everyone I meet. You gotta stay positive and try to find fullfilment for yourself. Don't think that someone else can make you happy, only you can do that. Lots of unhappy people I know seem to think that the reason they're sad is because they aren't in a relationship, those that manage to get into one often get chucked quickly because nobody likes someone who's a downer.
Get out there, enjoy yourself and socialise. :nod:
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Who needs relationships? Let's make the world one gigantic Bacchanalia of meaningless, no-strings-attached sex.
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Originally posted by Ford Prefect
Who needs relationships? Let's make the world one gigantic Bacchanalia of meaningless, no-strings-attached sex.
Then we'd all get Chlamydia :(
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Actually we'd all get AIDs.
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Originally posted by Black Wolf
Then we'd all get Chlamydia :(
TROJAN MAN!
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well, i was chatting with her online. she said she was stuck inside because her car had a flat tire. she also said she was hungry. so being the oppritunist i am i offered to come over and order pizza. so it was kinda an unoffitial date #2. to make matters better date #3 is tomorrow, and i think were gonna go see a movie on monday. :D
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How do you date anyways?
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Originally posted by Kosh
How do you date anyways?
[color=66ff00]Either use the row of six digits on the bottom of the packet or get it to the lab; the remaining carbon14 should be an indicator.
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I found uni to be vastly different from secondary education. But then again TV informs me the UK has a vastly different educational system from the US.
But er... women; very tricky. Especially at uni (I was in a course which had about 6 total. 2 were ugly and 2+ were otherwise involved. Bah).
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LoL.
I've already been through a college, this is just my new one. ^_^
(Queensland University of Technology if anyone's interested.)
LoL aldo, depends what course you do I guess. I don't expect to see many woman in my IT classes but there are plenty elsewhere's throughout the campus, besides the fact I can just walk out into the city and go to a club or whatever. :D
Uni / College / Tafe / whatever you want to call it was vastly different from secondary school for me too.
In highschool there was always that teenage attitude and bs. In college / uni there are few actual dumbass's around and generally everyone gets along pretty well. :)
The uni bar is going to be my favourite place to hang out methinks... ^_^
The drinking age here is like 18yr old too, so I was drinking near the end of high school... >.>
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I spent a lot of time working in the labs at uni (especially in the last year). Unfortunately the woman (why does it feel odd to use that word?) I spent most time chatting to (and I guess chatting up) was already involved.
I am, unfortunately, one of those people who finds it hard to just approach a(any) random stranger and start up a conversation. Lack of practice, probably.
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I'm gifted with being insane in real life as well as on the internet. So talking to strangers isn't really a biggy for me. Especially if I drink some before hand.
Realistically I doubt my chances, as I'll have heaps of work on my shoulders. I do plan on hanging out in the 24hour labs a fair bit though, so you never know. Best to have optimisim I guess. :p
I also hope to get a place of my own within a year or so. But that's open to debate still I guess...
Whenever I type woman I get pissed because I feel like typing "whimen" aka how I pronounce it. The spelling ****s me.
If you refer to the fact that its almost as if referring to another species or something... meh, I'll let someone else ponder and care about that one. :p
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Originally posted by Grug
I'm gifted with being insane in real life as well as on the internet. So talking to strangers isn't really a biggy for me. Especially if I drink some before hand.
Realistically I doubt my chances, as I'll have heaps of work on my shoulders. I do plan on hanging out in the 24hour labs a fair bit though, so you never know. Best to have optimisim I guess. :p
I also hope to get a place of my own within a year or so. But that's open to debate still I guess...
Whenever I type woman I get pissed because I feel like typing "whimen" aka how I pronounce it. The spelling ****s me.
If you refer to the fact that its almost as if referring to another species or something... meh, I'll let someone else ponder and care about that one. :p
Nah, i'm simply just used to using 'girls' for the first few decades of my life. I'm still wondering where the last 5 years went.
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Originally posted by aldo_14
woman (why does it feel odd to use that word?)
Makes you realize you're no kid anymore, and being one wasn't that bad after all?
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Yup.
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I prefer to use the word girls. Not in a perverted way mind.
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Originally posted by Grug
Whenever I type woman I get pissed because I feel like typing "whimen" aka how I pronounce it. The spelling ****s me.
"Woman" is singular. The word you're referring to is "women".
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Originally posted by Ford Prefect
"Woman" is singular. The word you're referring to is "women".
Still sounds stupid. The 'o' just ruins the damned word. Like oh' so many other stupidly spelt words in the English language.
I usually use 'gal' or 'sheela' or 'girls' too I guess. :p
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Sheela? I've never heard that one before. Must be something you Australian weirdos do.
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Yeah, its a rare australian slur. Though since I am a weirdo, I use it yeah. ^_^
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Originally posted by Ford Prefect
Sheela? I've never heard that one before.
He hasn't watched Crocodile Dundee. BURN THE HEATHEN!!!!
:p
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Actually I have seen it, but apparently it was too long ago to remember that.
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He hasn't watched Crocodile Dundee recently. BURN THE HEATHEN!!!!
:p
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That's not a knife.......
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...Maybe they're just happy to see you?
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Originally posted by Maeglamor
[color=66ff00]Don't get downhearted guys, consider those who haven't even asked a girl out. There's a surprising number of them.
I live in quiet optimism; I'm interesting to hang out with, reasonably smart and well regarded by just about everyone I meet. You gotta stay positive and try to find fullfilment for yourself. Don't think that someone else can make you happy, only you can do that. Lots of unhappy people I know seem to think that the reason they're sad is because they aren't in a relationship, those that manage to get into one often get chucked quickly because nobody likes someone who's a downer.
Get out there, enjoy yourself and socialise. :nod:
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Well said mate. I often take the mick outta people who like to poke fun at me on this aspect of my life by pointing out they have never even approached a girl.
Originally posted by Grug
The drinking age here is like 18yr old too, so I was drinking near the end of high school... >.>
I think our UK laws say you can have a drink with a meal at 16, on its own at 18. I had my first public drink at a party in March. I didn't buy it, mind you. I was actually getting on pretty well with this girl who was there but then I really badly messed up when I took some bad advice later on. She realises now it wasn't me but the whole bubble's kinda burst. Oddly enough the alcohol made me MORE nervous, even though I was definitely feeling the effects. I get tipsy off a pint and a half of lager :lol:
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AFAIK Uk legal limit on alcohol is a strict over-18s only.
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you know you dont have to drink on a date. alotta people say hey, take her to a bar. bah, go find a patch of moss on the edge of a cliff with about $6 worth in fancy coffee drinks :D
anyway i think i programmed my vcr right so as not to miss sci fi friday, unfortunately i have to watch it on a 12 inch screen, because its a tv vcr combo and the only video recording device in the house.
i bought her some roses, i really hope she likes them. i think ive spent a couple hundred on this gal already, women are expensive.
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Couple of hundred? WTF is your inflation like over there?!
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well everything either comes in by barge or air, we dont have the facilities for larger freight vessels and there are no roads in or out of this town. take the mcdonalds value menu for example, what would be 99 cents in any other part of the country, is about $2.50 here. a #2 (quarter pounder meal), unsupersized, set me back $7.
now juneau is historically a gold mining town. if not for the gold, theres really no reason for the town. the only reason its still here, is because some moron made it a state capitol. now i think they are planning on opeining another mine in 6 years might briefly help the economy, but seriously id rather they invest in some roads outa thiss hell hole.
juneau also has one of the highest rape rates in the us, funny, the polies advertise this place as the perfect place to raise a family. but once of age, kids eaither leave this ****hole for the lower 48 or they get raped and in the emotional backlash end up getting knocked up and end up on welfare. kids grow up poorer, cant get educated and add to our high vagrancy rates as well.
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I somehow fel like this thread is totaly directed at and entirely talking about me :wtf:
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Originally posted by Nuke
you know you dont have to drink on a date. alotta people say hey, take her to a bar. bah, go find a patch of moss on the edge of a cliff with about $6 worth in fancy coffee drinks :D
I agree, that's one of the worst things you can do. Girls don't want to be taken to bars, unless there's a band playing, and they'd better be good. There are so many other places you can go on a date. Any guy that takes a girl to a bar without a really good reason has a lot to learn.
Not all of us have the local glaicier to go to however.
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every location has some romantic nature scenes if you know where to look. i had no trouble finding romantic locales in a place like phoenix. any secluded place can be romantic. its not just the locale but how the two of you interact. dont spend an hour talking about your penis, your love for star trek and what computer hardware you have. converse dont dictate. get to know her, get comfortalbe around eachother. cuddling is ok, with kissing give her the option not to. dont start fondeling, let her start. move only as quickly as she wants to. eventually it all becomes natural.
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advice for you guys from personal experience: don't look for girls, make friends. it's heaps better when you start going out with someone you've been friends with for yonks on end because no one's being fake and trying to impress anyone. and obviously if nothing happens, you've still made heaps of good friends.
oh yeah, if you want date ideas... coffee's always good. picnics with views. beach. ice skating. movies. shopping. there's stacks of stuff to do. don't know why guys always want to take girls to the bar.
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bar == alcohol == impared judgement == chances_for_getting_laid++
keep going with the date ideas, I'm takeing notes.
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Do theater. There's more action on that front than just about anywhere else, I'd wager. And I do mean heterosexual.
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I'm more of a secluded nature person. There's just nothing like it. ^_^
Btw, I wasn't serious about the glacier remark. I have heaps of ideas.
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she just canceled on me. at least i get to watch the scifi premeres on a biger tv. she said shes not feeling well. i just need to figure out how to keep her flowers alive till we can reschedule.
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It may be a little forward, but you could deliver them to her. ^_^
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Go over to her house...deliver the flowers, then make her soup. lol
The premise of a guy taking care of her/wanting to see her, even if she's sick is kinda romantic, but I dunno if you've seen her long enough (like has been said, little forward).
EDIT: Stick the flowers outside/in freezer...thaw them out when you're ready?
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Originally posted by icespeed
advice for you guys from personal experience: don't look for girls, make friends. it's heaps better when you start going out with someone you've been friends with for yonks on end because no one's being fake and trying to impress anyone. and obviously if nothing happens, you've still made heaps of good friends.
oh yeah, if you want date ideas... coffee's always good. picnics with views. beach. ice skating. movies. shopping. there's stacks of stuff to do. don't know why guys always want to take girls to the bar.
You know, it's nice to hear a girl actually saying that. It seems too much like you can either choose to go "all-or-nothing", or just be friends.
she just canceled on me. at least i get to watch the scifi premeres on a biger tv. she said shes not feeling well. i just need to figure out how to keep her flowers alive till we can reschedule.
Water in a bowl is good. Maybe some nutrients of some sort?
Or you can just put them in stasis.
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What type of flowers?
if you put them in a bowl remember to cut the stems in water.
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i got em in a glass of water on my windo sill.i hope they last a couple days at least.
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Originally posted by icespeed
advice for you guys from personal experience: don't look for girls, make friends. it's heaps better when you start going out with someone you've been friends with for yonks on end because no one's being fake and trying to impress anyone. and obviously if nothing happens, you've still made heaps of good friends.
oh yeah, if you want date ideas... coffee's always good. picnics with views. beach. ice skating. movies. shopping. there's stacks of stuff to do. don't know why guys always want to take girls to the bar.
I've heard that advice before...just never heard of it actually working.
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Originally posted by icespeed
advice for you guys from personal experience: don't look for girls, make friends. it's heaps better when you start going out with someone you've been friends with for yonks on end because no one's being fake and trying to impress anyone. and obviously if nothing happens, you've still made heaps of good friends.
I'm just going to play Devil's Advocate here.
For most guys (not me though) there is no "friends." You know what I mean? Nothing more has come of friends with me. No big deal though. There's always their friends. ^_^
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Worked for me actually...Went on a school field trip to DC, made friends with a girl on the bus ride up, had a date planned by the time I got back...
We've been going steady for about 4 months now. But then again...I'm 16, so I hardly expect it to turn into something lifelong (at this point, it'd be nice, but I'm not naive enough to think that I can tell how we'll feel about each other a year from now).
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advice for you guys from personal experience: don't look for girls, make friends. it's heaps better when you start going out with someone you've been friends with for yonks on end because no one's being fake and trying to impress anyone. and obviously if nothing happens, you've still made heaps of good friends.
Tried that. Didn't work.
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Originally posted by IceFire
I've heard that advice before...just never heard of it actually working.
[color=66ff00]Number one tip of all time: Never ask a girl for advice about dating. They tell you what they are interested in.
There's a whole lot of variation and it's rare that using one 'strategy' will get you anywhere fast. Not trying to offend icespeed, this one's pretty well known. Girls on the other hand are excellent judges of style for the most part so advice on clothes and the like is generally good. :nod:
Cinema's not such a great idea for early dates, neither are loud disco's or bars. You want somewhere where you can talk.
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Well, I think I destroyed all my chances with one girl :blah:
On the plus side, I do have something of a litmus test...if she calls back when she gets back, she doesn't totally think I'm a tard.
Ahh, well. At least there's the hot girl at CompUSA.
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Originally posted by Nuke
you know you dont have to drink on a date.
I know. It wasn't exactly a date, we just both happened to be at this party.
Originally posted by aldo_14
AFAIK Uk legal limit on alcohol is a strict over-18s only.
Below is a summary of the main age restrictions relating to drinking in licensed places (taken from http://www.youthinformation.com/infopage.asp?snID=822):
* Under the age of 14 children are not permitted into the bar area of a pub unless the pub has a children's certificate. In this case they can enter if they are accompanied by an adult.
* At 14 you can enter a bar or pub but only if the landlord agrees and if you drink soft drinks (this can include low-alcohol beer).
* At 16 you can buy beer, cider or perry (made from pears) in a restaurant or eating area of a pub where there is no bar, if you are ordering a main meal.
* At 18 you can legally buy drinks in a pub, bar or off licence.
Originally posted by icespeed
advice for you guys from personal experience: don't look for girls, make friends. it's heaps better when you start going out with someone you've been friends with for yonks on end because no one's being fake and trying to impress anyone. and obviously if nothing happens, you've still made heaps of good friends.
Cheers cos that's exactly the direction I've been heading in recently. I don't mean I'm making friends in order to have a better chance later on, I'm just enjoying the friendship but who knows?
Originally posted by WMCoolmon
Well, I think I destroyed all my chances with one girl :blah:
I know how you feel :rolleyes:
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well i watched sci-fi friday but im still pretty much crushed. it always makes me suspiousous when the 3rd date gets canceled. i think ive decided to drop off her flowers tomorrow. il either leave them on her doorstep, or just ask if i can hang out and hand em to her in person. its still too early to know for sure.
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Good luck :)
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Originally posted by WMCoolmon
You know, it's nice to hear a girl actually saying that. It seems too much like you can either choose to go "all-or-nothing", or just be friends.
But that's bull :doubt:
You know; I live in some sort of real life soap opera, my friends (both guys and girls, mind you) seem on an eternal quest to get a G/Bfriend. And I have many friends, both genders, so I've seen quite a lot of combination. Well going out with someone after being friend for long ends up bad one time out of two. But usually, granted, you get the good old "nah, we've been friend for so long, I don't want to break that" bull.
The whole thing being the reason why I'm not hunting after girls, after seeing so many pathetic failures, and that makes me the only guy ion the whole goddamn region (I kid you not ~~) who's still friend with about everybody (the ones I'm not friend with, has nothing to do with someone going out with someone else or not).
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Well, I should've put that my quote is entirely conditional on it being supported by the speaker, that is, I'm assuming icespeed actually practices it.
From where I'm standing, I'd start ending friendships with girls if they saw me as a friend, and not actually as me. Being reliable is one thing, being taken for granted is another.
I've no idea if I'd actually carry through on that - when I'm being an *******, I'm pretty good at it, but I'm usually not that good at deciding to be one. In some ways, I'm far too tolerant.
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"Welcome to the friend zone ....there's no escape."
Seriously, when one of your female friends starts talking to you about her sex life (or something similar personal), you know there's no chance in hell that anything will ever happen between you . Because when she's that open to you, she considers you as a completetly non-sexual object.
On another note, reading through this thread, I'm somewhat relieved to see that I'm not the only one who always gets interested in completetly unavailable women.
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The problem is that icespeed's advice is good for icespeed but not for the vast majority of us. Guys will easily re-evaluate a female friend as a possible girlfriend. All she has to do is wear a bikini or low cut top and we'll start thinking about it. :D
Sadly women aren't as...ummm... flexible? :D
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Originally posted by Col. Fishguts
On another note, reading through this thread, I'm somewhat relieved to see that I'm not the only one who always gets interested in completetly unavailable women.
:lol:
I think that's a male feature, being interested in unavailable women :D The chalenge, you know ;) The "whoa!" factor, I like to call it, here, that would be "whoa! I managed it!" ^^
Sadly, as for me, the whoa factor always goes with the "no way in hell :(" factor :p
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Originally posted by Nico
:lol:
I think that's a male feature, being interested in unavailable women :D The chalenge, you know ;) The "whoa!" factor, I like to call it, here, that would be "whoa! I managed it!" ^^
Sadly, as for me, the whoa factor always goes with the "no way in hell :(" factor :p
But I always get interseted before I know that she's already seeing someone.
Typically I find that out several weeks after meeting her, when I'm thinking "Oh, this I going rather well, this might lead to something" , and then KABLAM!, I somehow learn that she already has a significant other.
And this happened to me a LOT lately.
If I would believe in a higher power of some sort, I'd think someone is having a whole lot of fun on my costs. ;)
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That's another reason why wasting time and making friend is a bad idea :p Better find out if there's someone else fast than building and feeling much more sorry later. There's a lot of ways to find that right away, but important is to make sure that not only there's no boyfriend, but that there's no "I wish" either. If there's one, it's bound to fail too, sadly.
Oh, and back to the drink thing, well, bringing the gal to a coffee might not be the most original thing ever (well, the glacier is a must, I suppose :p), but I've never seen it fail either, so...
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Originally posted by Maeglamor
[color=66ff00]There's a whole lot of variation and it's rare that using one 'strategy' will get you anywhere fast. Not trying to offend icespeed, this one's pretty well known.[/color]
Wisdom there. Receiving advice like that as if it's the law on relationships is foolish and shallow - as if the end itself is all that's desired, and any means will be accepted to reach that. Anyone should be able to see through that sort of ploy.
I can't help but think that a relationship like this can only be birthed properly from a position of contentment. If you can't accept your present circumstances and thus seek this sort of relationship merely as a form of escape from your currently desperate situation (if that's how you view it; I hardly think it's that true in most of our lives), you'll be set up with all the wrong motivations going into the relationship, and the wheels will inevitably fall off eventually. Not to say that such contentment is easy to achieve; but that seems to be a pretty consistent issue with the way most of us here are trying to approach the matter.
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Aw, man :p Why do you need to think such things so deeply? It's a matter of feeling and mood, not of calculations and goals :p I believe most guys here just see that chick and go "I like how she is", and will try to ask her out some way or another, nothing else :p
What you call an escape, it's just another level to the original motive: having a relationship. Coz face it, if you don't try, you won't get, because there is at least one law on relationship, like it or not: if the guy doesn't move, the chick will not move. In my whole life (I'm 24, I'm like right into the middle of that period), I've been asked out by a girl one single time, just once, so that makes the exception that proves the rule rather than break it, if you ask me. Restraining because it feels like desperation is counterproductive and frustrating, so I must, for once, disagree with you, Ed :)
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Originally posted by SuperCoolAl
Below is a summary of the main age restrictions relating to drinking in licensed places (taken from http://www.youthinformation.com/infopage.asp?snID=822):
I never knew that. Fascinating.
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Originally posted by Nico
You know; I live in some sort of real life soap opera, my friends (both guys and girls, mind you) seem on an eternal quest to get a G/Bfriend.
This is because society has conditioned most people that they need to be in a relationship. Wrong, people want to be in a relationship, but they don't need to be in one. Wants and needs are very different. OK, there's the whole instinct to procreate thing, but I'm not talking about instinct here.
Originally posted by icespeed
advice for you guys from personal experience: don't look for girls, make friends. it's heaps better when you start going out with someone you've been friends with for yonks on end because no one's being fake and trying to impress anyone. and obviously if nothing happens, you've still made heaps of good friends.
Icespeed may be one in a million women that actually practices what she preaches.
I met a girl through the net one time. I was friends with her cousin. I was over there one day and her sister had taken a picture of me. She in turn saw this picture and was immediately interested. She lived far away from me, other side of the country far. We really got to know each other well over the Internet. She helped me get over some *^%@& and I helped her deal with some guy; we were friends. Eventually we were talking on the phone. Clearly, we were (at least mentally) attracted to each other, and we decided to meet. I didn't meet her until last year, and when I did, there was nothing. No chemistry whatsoever. We only spent maybe half a day together, due to circumstances beyond our control. We are still friends though, best friends. You might say I have someone to...practice on? Not in a using sense; I mean until someone else comes my way, so I have a good idea of what a girl likes and doesn't.
The moral of the story: Yes, you can be friends.
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I think there's a case for saying that the procreational instinct feeds a 'parental' instinct to form relationships. Or, like the Beatles said, all you need is love.
Dah-da-da-dah.
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Or, like the Beatles said, all you need is love.
I am starting to wonder if I am even capable of feeling love anymore........
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You are. Unless of course your biochemistry is completely ****ed as the result of cancer, having glands removed, or taking some whacked-out medications. Cynicism, I have discovered, just isn't an effective defense.
Icespeed is by my experience right, as well. I've always been friends first, although this probably has the unpleasant side-effect of increasing the stab-in-the-guts feeling when it blows up...
Seriously, though. For no reason I or anyone who knows me can determine, my relationships never die quietly...they always self-destruct in a most spectacular manner. And I'm getting sick of it.
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you know I'd much have the defined spectacular "I never want to see you again" explosive 'this is the end' ending than the quiet indecisive "haven't heard from her in five years, I guess she wasn't interested after all" non-ending, that defines most of my attempts.
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Originally posted by icespeed
advice for you guys from personal experience: don't look for girls, make friends. it's heaps better when you start going out with someone you've been friends with for yonks on end because no one's being fake and trying to impress anyone. and obviously if nothing happens, you've still made heaps of good friends.
Am I the only person in this whole thread that thinks this works? Actually, I know it works; it's how I got my current girlfriend.
Originally posted by EtherShock
The moral of the story: Yes, you can be friends.
In reply to your story above, I agree. Those kinds of infatuations usually don't work (at least they didn't for me); I went through a similar situation as you, though the girl in question lived only a short distance away. She knew who I was, and we went off on something similar to you. It didn't work out, but we're good friends.
Originally posted by aldo_14
Or, like the Beatles said, all you need is love.
John Lennon. Smart man. Shot in the back, very sad. [/random sci-fi movie quote] :nervous:
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Rah... I know that one! Just can't remember where it's from, damn... Ah, yeah! ID4.
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Originally posted by Nico
Rah... I know that one! Just can't remember where it's from, damn... Ah, yeah! ID4.
*hands Venico a cookie*
Didn't think anyone would get that for a while. :)
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You underestimate my geekyness :p
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actualy, I thought you were being sarcastic about it being from a random scifi it was so recognisable.
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well i ran into her at work today. she hung out with me on her break. so i guess were still dating. so in about 40 minutes im gonna catch a bus out the her place and driop her flowers of, most likely in person. if i see her il ask her if she wants to go see war of the worlds tonight. hopefully it will work.
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Originally posted by nuclear1
Am I the only person in this whole thread that thinks this works? Actually, I know it works; it's how I got my current girlfriend.
[color=66ff00]It's not a case of it not working, it's relying solely on that mentality that matters.
What I'm trying to say is: would you like to hang out with someone who's miserable all the time? What happens when you get into a relationship and find out that the whole smiley happy vibe you get off the girl is a facade?
In order to find happiness with someone else you first have to realise that it's you that needs to be happy, you have to believe that you are as worthwhile as anyone else, only then will you be able to enter a relationship free of the fear of rejection or a needy mentality.
If you know you're worthwhile then the girl hasn't brushed you off; she's missed out on a great relationship.
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That theory sounds good, but does it work?
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Yes, in my experience.
What happens later is not, strictly speaking, a measure of whether it worked or not. It's a successful method for finding people.
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Originally posted by Maeglamor
[color=66ff00]If you know you're worthwhile then the girl hasn't brushed you off; she's missed out on a great relationship.
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I wish that worked for me.
Actually, I guess I wish I knew whether so many girls are just that shallow and prone to snap interpretations of people followed by closedmindedness, or if I actually am as naive and worthless as many have expressed.
Should I have called more girls' lies, and prove them wrong, instead of letting them go ahead and believe whatever they wanted while I moved on? If someone else, in the future, talks to them and sees me in the same light as they do, should I ignore that possibility and decide that anyone who does that isn't worth my time? Or should I work to make sure that I contradict whatever bad things that first person might have had to say?
Really all this romance stuff doesn't work so well if you think about it, at least not where I'm standing. Of course, it doesn't work if you don't think about it, either.
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:lol: LMAO.
From romance to dating advice to flower keeping to romance, then back to advice again.
Okay:
1. Female friends are cool. Generally speaking it attracts more situations to meet other girls anyway. :)
2. Being nervous with girls is only if you have some type of motive or have some type of phobia (o.O). If you don't care and just wanna hang out (as you would with your mates) it usually dulls any nerves you might have.
3. Don't watch soapy shows. They are crap anyway, and are bad for your mental health.
4. Don't think so much about this crap, its also bad for your mental health. Try and be spontaneous within reason. Just think and act like your not so desperate or 'care'.
5. Girls are just people too, they suffer from similar if not worse anxiety's and thoughts.
6. Humour is your friend. If you have a fked up humour (like me :p ) try and keep it light at first.
It's not the end of the world if a chick says 'no thanks'. What's the worst that could happen?
Spits in your face and laughs maniacly?
At least you know now that she was a b!tch anyway, and saved yourself $$$, time and effort. :)
Suitable slogans: Keep it real, Just do it, and Where would you like to go today?
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Originally posted by Grug
1. Female friends are cool. Generally speaking it attracts more situations to meet other girls anyway. :)
True dat. My ex managed to give me 3 or 4 emails of her friends, during and after our relationship.It still boggles my minds :nervous:
Originally posted by Grug
Where would you like to go today? [/B]
I think I have problems, I automatically added 'dirtbag' behind it
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*calls RvB reference*
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why is it i get this nagging feeling that i ****ed up? i still havent heard from her. ah hell.
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Originally posted by Nuke
why is it i get this nagging feeling that i ****ed up? i still havent heard from her. ah hell.
Possibly because you ****ed up. Alternately, he cheese.
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Originally posted by Nico
But that's bull :doubt:
You know; I live in some sort of real life soap opera, my friends (both guys and girls, mind you) seem on an eternal quest to get a G/Bfriend. And I have many friends, both genders, so I've seen quite a lot of combination. Well going out with someone after being friend for long ends up bad one time out of two. But usually, granted, you get the good old "nah, we've been friend for so long, I don't want to break that" bull.
The whole thing being the reason why I'm not hunting after girls, after seeing so many pathetic failures, and that makes me the only guy ion the whole goddamn region (I kid you not ~~) who's still friend with about everybody (the ones I'm not friend with, has nothing to do with someone going out with someone else or not).
Nico, I think we were separated at birth (and you were flown over the Atlantic :)).
I'm the "friends with everyone, hears about everyone elses trials and tribulations, and live in a soap opera". On the other hand, I just feel like the underused character that the writers throw in for numbers sake.
Lets see...I've tried pretty much everything. Tons of friends who are of the female variety, lots of friends period (I had a BBQ last weekend that filled my back deck), I'm active, I go out and meet people, I hang out at coffee shops with friends, pubs (sometimes), play sports, volunteer...you know...pretty much ALL of the activities that those dating advice people tell you to do...and I do these things for the purposes of doing them and not for finding girls so its not a half hearted/half assed thing. But nonetheless, for almost 6 years I've been single. Basically I haven't truly dated since high school.
Would be nice to be seeing someone...I don't know if its about happieness or what it is that drives me...maybe just instinct. I'm usually pretty happy and jovial although I've been more moody as of late (but thats probably utter frusteration in job hunting).
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well at least i heard from her. she thanked me for the flowers, but i dont know whats goin on.
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Originally posted by IceFire
Nico, I think we were separated at birth (and you were flown over the Atlantic :)).
I'm the "friends with everyone, hears about everyone elses trials and tribulations, and live in a soap opera". On the other hand, I just feel like the underused character that the writers throw in for numbers sake.
Darn. I never managed to put it into words that well, but it's exactly that ~~
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"Remember its not rape, its surprise sex!"
:nervous:
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What the heck?!
That might be a bit sick really, considering how traumatising rape is, and I'm a guy!
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Originally posted by Nuke
why is it i get this nagging feeling that i ****ed up? i still havent heard from her. ah hell.
[color=66ff00]This is probably not what you want to hear but you really should wait for a few weeks before calling her again.
Too much too soon usually sends the wrong message.
Secondly, don't get so wound up. Show her that you have a life and your own interests, if you're trying to hang out with her all the time it pretty much suggests you have nothing better to do.
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Best advice I've seen so far Maeg! :yes:
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I'm just surprised this thread hasn't degenerated into something sordid.
Only at HLP...
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"HLP: Now with advanced relationship counseling."
"BDSM sessions only on Tuesdays."
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Originally posted by Grug
"Remember its not rape, its surprise sex!"
:nervous:
"Remember, You can't rape the willing!"
;7
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Originally posted by SuperCoolAl
I'm just surprised this thread hasn't degenerated into something sordid.
Only at HLP...
you asked?
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It was only a matter of time.
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ive been talking to her online for abit. i think me and her are still good, i just gotta slow up abit.
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Originally posted by Grug
"Remember its not rape, its surprise sex!"
:nervous:
rape is sooooo sexist term.
edit: Get her drunk pronto.
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pour beer in the snow (if there is any?) and then hae a snow eating contest :p
Best of luck Nuke :)
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Yes, yellow snow is beer. Eat up.
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that'd be slightly amber, not yellow ;) (depending on brew)...
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hey, she just invited me to her house, this may get intresting :D
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DuGalle: Are you prepared to go all the way, Alexi?
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Nuke's gonna do the horizontal boogie!
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What if the glacier shifts and is becomes diagonal?
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horizontal, bah, i know better positions :D
trojan man!
but seriously unless she wants to make an advance, it will be just another night of cuddling.
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[yoda]Cuddling leads to touching, touching leads to excitement, excitement leads to... sexing.[/yoda]
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... and they wonder why they never get any.
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Who? :wtf:
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You I think.
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Originally posted by vyper
[yoda]Cuddling leads to touching, touching leads to excitement, excitement leads to... sexing.[/yoda]
Yoda you are not. Wise you must be if Yoda you wish to become.
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Yeah, the correct term is "Snoo-snoo".
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"I never thought I'd die this way... but I had always hoped!"
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Originally posted by Kosh
You I think.
:lol:
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Originally posted by icespeed
advice for you guys from personal experience: don't look for girls, make friends. it's heaps better when you start going out with someone you've been friends with for yonks on end because no one's being fake and trying to impress anyone. and obviously if nothing happens, you've still made heaps of good friends.
Meh, as with everything else, it's different from girl to girl. All my friends that are girls have made it clear that that's all they'll ever be. Usually the "I don't want to go out with you for reasons I'm not going to say because I don't want to feel bad".. err I meant "I don't want to mess up the friendship" excuse comes up. Or they like some other guy. Or they're just not looking for a guy right now. Or even "we're such good friends that it'd be weird." Yeah, thanks.
But then.. I've got the nice-guy syndrome... girls don't want to date a nice guy (but they do want to marry him.. too bad dating tends to be a prerequisite of marriage).
I wish your advice applied to more situations, icespeed. ;) :nod: Oh, and any date ideas are welcome. :)
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Wear a fadora and learn to sing Cole Porter songs. :D
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Originally posted by Nico
Darn. I never managed to put it into words that well, but it's exactly that ~~
...and it kinda sucks. We need to get the writers to pay more attention to our characters :)
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Originally posted by Ulala
But then.. I've got the nice-guy syndrome... girls don't want to date a nice guy (but they do want to marry him.. too bad dating tends to be a prerequisite of marriage).
Become a Moonie
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LoL.
So Nuke-y lad, how'd things turn out? ;)
Y'know, I'd laugh myself to death if she ever found HLP and found this thread... :lol:
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Why I don't ever mention my romantic affairs online in any great detail. :D
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well... 'friends' worked for me. we've dumped sh1tloads of stuff on each other over the years and then somehow we realised we liked each other that way, so... *shrugs*... here we are.
maybe i am weird for a girl. maybe most girls are looking for the totally hot, wild guys and keep the nice boys for friends only. or, maybe not. don't take this as the only piece of advice worth following, obviously there's other stuff you can do to find a gf, but really if you're that desperate for a relationship i'm not sure you'll get one, or a good lasting one anyway, because i don't think chicks are all that turned out by desperate guys.
anyway i'm not sure i made this clear: you don't make friends to get dates, you make friends to make friends. if the friendship mutates into something more, then that's a bonus.
date ideas: come up with your own, stop trawling my brains. the point of the date is to spend time with her, not to fully impress her by how creative and rich and randomly attractive you are.
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OK, in that case, how do you "make friends" with chicks. :p
Specifically, I'm wondering you _don't_ ask girls out, if that makes sense. Like, I don't know anyone I can easily hang out with. So if I want to talk to a girl (So I have a person I can easily hang out with), how likely is she to take an invitation to go to lunch as a date, before I make any sort of move?
This is actually something of a large problem for me, since I get along with girls better than guys in conversation. :wtf: Probably because I don't get along with the 'nerds', since I'm not nerdy enough, but I don't get along with everyone else, because I'm not mainstream enough. So it'd be nice if I could make use of the other 50% of people that I know, instead of just pretending like they don't exist unless I happen to run into them, to be rather cold about the whole affair.
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ah ****, i think i just got dumped. the, "you are too good for me" line that ive heard too many times over. ****
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Ah. The "you are too good for me" line. Doesn't that particular piece of womanese just make you want to pour a drink over her head and say "Now that we've established that I can be a bastard can we keep going out?" :D
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Originally posted by karajorma
Ah. The "you are too good for me" line. Doesn't that particular piece of womanese just make you want to pour a drink over her head and say "Now that we've established that I can be a bastard can we keep going out?" :D
[color=66ff00]Your immediate retort should be:
"Actually, I think you're right".
She'll probably call a few days later and tell you she made a mistake.
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i do not care, i was watching a movie with a gatling gun in it so i didnt give a ****. i hope she meets a man that drinks too much, smokes too much crack, gives her crabs, herpies and aids, beats her, rapes her in the ass and demands that she makes him dinner, and then refuses to do dishes.
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So, you do not care? :p
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Originally posted by Nuke
i do not care, i was watching a movie with a gatling gun in it so i didnt give a ****. i hope she meets a man that drinks too much, smokes too much crack, gives her crabs, herpies and aids, beats her, rapes her in the ass and demands that she makes him dinner, and then refuses to do dishes.
[color=66ff00]Eh....
She just has some picture in her head of what the ideal guy is and will soon learn that whatever it is she has in mind probably doesn't exist.
I have to admit though that all the stuff with flowers and frequent calls probably scared her off. Guys think that flowers are a simple gesture but to women it's a 'he's giving me something so he expects to get something' matter. The beginning of any romantic relationship should be taken slowly and playfully. It has to be fun. Anything faster is usually just lust which often just involves short term gains and long term annoyance.
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it seems people have alot of crap in their heads. i dont care. i can love any woman. with me what you see is what you get. i like to keep things simple. if she dont like that, she can go **** herself.
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Originally posted by Maeglamor
[color=66ff00]I have to admit though that all the stuff with flowers and frequent calls probably scared her off. Guys think that flowers are a simple gesture but to women it's a 'he's giving me something so he expects to get something' matter. [/color]
I don't think it's that so much as the fact that women like a challenge. If the guy seems too interested they're generally turned off by that. Best thing to do is to make it appear as if you enjoy going out with a woman but that if she wasn't there you've got plenty of other fishes you could reel in instead.
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or perhaps there all whores.
forgive me, ive had too much whittey zen
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You'll find another one, there's plenty more. :)
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Poor Catullus, you must stop being silly,
and count as lost what you see is lost.
Once the sun shone bright for you,
when you would go whither your sweetheart led,
she who was loved by me as none will ever be loved.
Then there took place those many jolly scenes
which you desired nor did your sweetheart not desire.
Truly the sun shone bright for you.
Now she desires no more: do you too, weakling, not desire;
and do not chase her who flees, nor live in unhappiness,
but harden your heart, endure and stand fast.
Goodbye, sweetheart. Catullus now stands fast:
he will not look for you or court you against your will.
But you will be sorry when you are not courted at all.
Wretch, pity on you! What life lies in store for you!
Who will come to you now? Who will think you pretty?
Whom will you love now? Who will people say you are?
Whom will you kiss? Whose lips will you bite?
But you, Catullus, be resolute and stand fast.
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easy for you to say, im bleeding here
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for the record now that im not drunk, i still dont give a ****.
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And yet you still feel the need to say that.............
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LoL.
Sorry to hear it didn't work out Nuke...
Hope you don't get to bad a hangover. :p
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I think you may have taken it a little too fast. The flowers probably killed it. Learn from your mistakes and move on.
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Something I've learned in my considerable experience with rejection is that you can't really chase girls, you gotta attract 'em.
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And don't take it so seriously. (read: comments like "... and they wonder why they never get any.")
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...and not even a week later i got a date with a gal i went out with awhile back and it didnt work out at the time. she at least had the curtacy to inform me that the relationship flopped before i startd to like her and we became chat buddies. shes had about the same luck dating in this town that i have, and shes quite horney. i think she wants another chance. were going out friday. better bring the trojans.
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I can't do it, I just can't do it. :lol: