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Title: XP, Notepad, and Tables
Post by: BlueFlames on July 14, 2005, 08:33:19 pm

If it's not one thing, it's another...

I've been finding out the hard way that Windows XP's version of Notepad handles line breaks completely differently from previous versions of Notepad.  Beyond the irritation caused by opening older text files and seeing a pair of undefined character symbols, where there should be line breaks, this is starting to make tweaking balance in my campaigns difficult.

See, I'm a lazy bastard, so when I'm going to use something like the Lucifer, and think that it was criminally negligant to equip it with SReds and lasers instead of LReds and flak, I tweak the table file, so that I don't have to change twenty turrets in each of a half dozen missions (or something to that effect).  It used to be a simple task of popping open the table in Notepad, swapping a couple numbers out, saving to the appropriate place, and I'd be done with it.  With Windows XP's Notepad, such a table becomes unusable, since it seems FS2 cannot make sense of the newer line break scheme.

Well, either that, or I'm totally off-base.  Regardless, I either need to know what I'm doing wrong, how I can fix Notepad, or where I can find an alternate tool to edit table files for FS2.

Title: XP, Notepad, and Tables
Post by: Goober5000 on July 14, 2005, 08:47:13 pm

Use WordPad, and save as Text.

Title: XP, Notepad, and Tables
Post by: WMCoolmon on July 14, 2005, 08:48:32 pm

Crimson Editor is also good.

Title: XP, Notepad, and Tables
Post by: mikhael on July 14, 2005, 10:22:35 pm

Personally, I recommend ConTEXT. Arbitrary text placement a la DOS Edit. Absolutely sweet.

Title: XP, Notepad, and Tables
Post by: Solatar on July 14, 2005, 11:13:13 pm

I use Araneae (http://www.ornj.net/software/araneae/). Of course, I use it for HTML editing as well.

I'm trying to make a new file format type for the newer version of this program, so it will highlight tags and stuff specific to .tbl files.

Title: XP, Notepad, and Tables
Post by: Fieari on July 15, 2005, 02:35:14 pm

Every hear of/try TextPad (http://www.textpad.com/)?  A text editor with just about every feature I've ever wanted.  It's so useful, I actually use it exclusively for all my writting, even for things like letters and school reports.  I'll write it in textpad, then copy it into word for font formatting and such.

Title: XP, Notepad, and Tables
Post by: NGTM-1R on July 15, 2005, 03:22:08 pm

I have no idea what your problem is...I use Notepad for this purpose without difficulties.

Title: XP, Notepad, and Tables
Post by: knn on July 15, 2005, 03:25:11 pm

Maybe you are saving it in wrong format. WinXP Notepad can save in Ansi and Unicode. Try both, but I think Ansi should work (after all, that`s what Win9x used)

Title: XP, Notepad, and Tables
Post by: Goober5000 on July 15, 2005, 04:04:36 pm

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Originally posted by knn
Maybe you are saving it in wrong format. WinXP Notepad can save in Ansi and Unicode. Try both, but I think Ansi should work (after all, that`s what Win9x used)

Ah, that's probably the answer. :)

Title: XP, Notepad, and Tables
Post by: BlueFlames on July 15, 2005, 04:40:34 pm

Actually, I have been saving in ANSI.  I'm going to give some of these other applications a shot, after I finish up my contest mission.

Title: XP, Notepad, and Tables
Post by: I_E_Maverick on July 17, 2005, 07:12:00 pm

i have another one for you, editpad lite, a great txt editor with a lot of nice features :)

http://www.editpadpro.com/editpadlite.html