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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Cobra on July 15, 2005, 10:01:28 pm
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anyone remember that game? 'twas a classic...
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Man, that game was the penultimate in excessivly-violent Video Games for years...the Shrink Ray was soooo cool, not to mention that Three-Barrelled Machine Gun...:D
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The ripper, you mean.
I loved that game, especially the babes. ;7
it actually works on my xp, but the sounds all ****ty.
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ok so wheres DUKE NUKEN FOREVER, oh wait i almost forgot, when its done...
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Originally posted by Mefustae
Man, that game was the penultimate in excessivly-violent Video Games for years...
So which game was the ultimate?
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Maybe you guys should reinstall the game and try these babies out. :)
JFDuke3D
http://jonof.edgenetwork.org/index.php?p=jfduke3d
High Resolution Pack Beta, has the latest stuff 3DR fans has to offer.
http://plagman.free.fr/hrp_beta_05_07_15.zip
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Come get some :p
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Originally posted by Darkblade
High Resolution Pack Beta, has the latest stuff 3DR fans has to offer.
http://plagman.free.fr/hrp_beta_05_07_15.zip [/B]
If only OpenGL would work for me. :hopping:
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Originally posted by Goober5000
So which game was the ultimate?
Haha, you beat me to it!
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Originally posted by Goober5000
So which game was the ultimate?
AVP2 :p
Especially the Alien campaign. Considering that one of the ways you regain health is to "eat" the corpses of your victims. That and the headbites.
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One of my favourite old games. I played it as often as I did X-wing. Too bad those times are long past. I would still like to play it, but I have not yet looked for it. I am certain there is a legal and free download somewhere on the Internet, assuming that such an ancient game has already gone freeware.
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Has anyone played Shadow Warrior? it's basically same game but with new enemies/weaps and you are some Japanese warrior, funny as hell.
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I have it still installed, along with the Duke Assault 1500 extra levels, though sadly many of those are multiplayer, and it's tough to find any multiplayer games these days. I don't think I've ever actually played them all, but of somebody wants to I'll give them a run for their money on one of the ASSAULT series of maps.
I'm STILL trying to figure out BUILD, though.
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Let's rock!
Yeah, build was a bit on the "wtf" side.
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screw the build, the whole 're-done' game stopped working after the first time i used it. :wtf:
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Originally posted by MicroPsycho
Has anyone played Shadow Warrior? it's basically same game but with new enemies/weaps and you are some Japanese warrior, funny as hell.
Yeah, it was the only thing I regretted not being able to play when I upgraded to XP 3 years ago but it was a smal price to pay to be able to get rid of both Windows 98 and 2000.
BTW, 3DRealms release the source for SW last April and jonof has a port for it on his site too:
http://jonof.edgenetwork.org/index.php?p=jfsw
Only real issue is that saving isn't 100% reliable yet.
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Loved Duke and Shadowarrior - both sadly OS9 only games for me, which means freakness when playing on a new-ish OSX only comp :(
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icculus claims his Linux port can be coaxed into running under OSX:
http://www.icculus.org/duke3d/
there's a site for Shadow Warrior too but it seems that port isn't fit for public use yet:
http://www.icculus.org/shadowwarrior/
JonoF apparently has Linux ports of his versions of both DN3D and SW but I have nfi if they can be made to run on OSX or not :(
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I think I still have the original DN3D cd lying around somewhere....
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The original runs under WinXP for me, actually. It occasionally speeds up or slows down ridiculously, however...
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Ah fond memories of that game,giving money to strippers and shotgunning everything and watching them choke. :drevil:
:devil:
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"Shake it baby!"
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If only they had some good ports for it like the one for doom.
Really the JFDuke port has awful mouse look support.
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Really? Can't say I noticed. The mouselook in JFDuke felt just the same as it did in retail Duke...
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Well then it's Duke's mouselook altogether.
BTW is Duke Nukem Nukem Manhattan project any good?
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The only problem I had with Dukes mouse look was the bone headed autoaim it had. Even if you disabled it, it'd still fire into god knows where even when you had a target lined up in the cross hairs. Thankfully though, the jonof ports correct that nonsense.
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Duke Nukem... I have some nice memories of growing up with that game.
That, and the list of:
- Doom
- Quake
- Star Control II
- Wing Commander
Ah, the times.
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Quake was good. it even still works on my comp! remember the BFG? :drevil:
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No Cobra, NOBODY remembers the single most infamous weapon in the entire history of first-person shooters. :rolleyes:
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Big Friendly Giant?
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No. In the manual, it's called "Big uh... Freaking Gun"
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Originally posted by ZylonBane
No Cobra, NOBODY remembers the single most infamous weapon in the entire history of first-person shooters. :rolleyes:
Shot. Down. :lol:
No. In the manual, it's called "Big uh... Freaking Gun"
Psst. Cobra: aldo's using sarcasm.
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meh. someone should make [Sarcasm][/sarcasm] tags.
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And they say that foreigners don't understand sarcasm most of the times.
There are always exceptions. It looks like at least.
And I won't need sarcasm TAGs. The :rolleye: smiley is enough.
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Originally posted by Cobra
Quake was good. it even still works on my comp! remember the BFG? :drevil:
The BFG wasn't in Quake.
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Yes it was.
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I don't know if there was one in Q1, but in Quake II and III, there was.
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Originally posted by Cobra
meh. someone should make [Sarcasm][/sarcasm] tags.
Yes. Perhaps we should also have [joke] tags, and also [irony], [cultural reference], [written text], [metaphor], [analogy] and [exaggeration] tags.
For they are all clearly needed.
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The BFG originally came from doom.
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Yup, was the BFG9000 in doom. I found the BFG in quake3 was a bastardized version of the plasmagun from doom, iirc.
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Well, that's what the BFG9K was originally supposed to be, kind of. In the early alpha-test versions of Doom, the BFG supposedly fired a dense, rapid spread of plasma shots. Unfortunately this taxed the engine so much that they had to take it out.
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The Plasma Rifle has always rocked.
But the BFG wasn't in the original Quake. Or rather, it wasn't in the N64 port (didn't have a pc in them days) :nervous:
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The weapon selection in Quake was pretty generitastic. You had an axe, a shotgun, two types of nail gun, grenade launcher, rocket launcher, and the lightning gun. Am I forgetting anything?
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Originally posted by ZylonBane
Well, that's what the BFG9K was originally supposed to be, kind of. In the early alpha-test versions of Doom, the BFG supposedly fired a dense, rapid spread of plasma shots. Unfortunately this taxed the engine so much that they had to take it out.
They didn't take it out, the plasmagun was in doom, and the plasma stream was rapid and dense enough, if you ask me :p "8" key, even. And in doom2, you'd have swarms of mechaspiders firing it at you, so the engine handled it well, methinks ^^
You forgot the double shotgun, in quake ;)
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Originally posted by Nico
Yup, was the BFG9000 in doom. I found the BFG in quake3 was a bastardized version of the plasmagun from doom, iirc.
Bastardized? It was multiplayer-friendly.
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http://5years.doomworld.com/doombible/section14.shtml
Doom (original) design doc. Says bugger all about what it was supposed to look like ingame, natch.
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Originally posted by Nico
They didn't take it out, the plasmagun was in doom
Please respond to what I actually said. The BFG originally fired a SPREAD of shots. This behavior was removed and replaced with the single uber-shot + freaky instant cone-of-death.
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I still have hope Duke Nukem Forever will one day be released.
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Anyone remember Blood?
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Originally posted by ZylonBane
Please respond to what I actually said. The BFG originally fired a SPREAD of shots. This behavior was removed and replaced with the single uber-shot + freaky instant cone-of-death.
Yeah, and as I said, I don't think it's because the game engine was too weak, since what you describe is the plasma gun, just shooting randomly instead of in straight line :p
IIR, that's the kind of weapon the humonculus had in doom2, anyway ("the big mob which was saying "haboobwaha!" before shooting)
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I believe Zbs point was that the planned BFG would be firing multiple shots where the Plasma gun only fires one. So you'd be talking multiplying the drawing alone for projectiles by several times over the plasma gun. (and possibly with added complexity for colission detection and whatnot; I'm not sure offhand what optimizations enemy fire has over player fire, but I think there will be some you can make)
Offhand, I think player weapons did fire somewhat faster than enemies; also, it's easier to control problems stemming from enemy density than from what the player does.
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Originally posted by Nico
IIR, that's the kind of weapon the humonculus had in doom2, anyway ("the big mob which was saying "haboobwaha!" before shooting)
The fat bloke with guns for hands ? :p
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I always thought he said hrumphyfumpf.
Although my memory may be tricking me.
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*pulls lever*
The mancubus says wahewah.
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Originally posted by BlackDove
Anyone remember Blood?
"I live... AGAIN!"
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Originally posted by Swantz
*pulls lever*
The mancubus says wahewah.
huh yeah, mancubus, I somewhat mixed with descent3 there ~~
And I stand with "Haboobwaha"!
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Originally posted by Swantz
Well then it's Duke's mouselook altogether.
BTW is Duke Nukem Nukem Manhattan project any good?
Duke Nukem: Manhattan Project is a bloody good platformer-shooter. Best I have played in a while. :)
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Originally posted by Admiral LSD
"I live... AGAIN!"
Yeah, what is it with Build engine games compulsively ripping off Evil Dead's best lines?
Blood was a fantastic game though. Everything about it was pure class-- the weapon design, the enemies, the levels that actually looked like real places, the sound effects (I have that insane cackle when you blow stuff up burned into my brain). I should pick up a copy of the Plasma Pack off eBay one of these days. Too bad I never got DOS sound working on my SBLive.
Blood 2, on the other hand, was garbage. Whoever thought it would be a good idea to set the entire game in boring urban levels should be shot in the nuts.
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Whats Blood?
:D