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Title: 3DS Max help
Post by: Lifa on July 20, 2005, 04:56:57 am
Hi guys!  I'm having some problems with 3DS Max (I have 6 and 7) being sort of...down...right now.  They're both not exactly legal copies and are prone to really hating me--very touchy and I'm not sure yet what I'd have to do to get either one of them back up and running.  (6 has been gone for awhile and I didn't care until now...)

Anyways, I have a large project due for class tomorrow at noon... A seamless model of an insect done in 3DS Max (not required to be unwrapped or textured, thank God).  I was thinking...ladybug.  ( Cute and round and easy to do <3 )  It would have taken me about 30 minutes to do if 3DS Max hadn't died all over me.

So, after I spent a good couple of minutes crying about it, a friend referred me to this site, says you guys are good at 3D things and can help me.  (I have no talent!)

So, any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks!
Title: 3DS Max help
Post by: KARMA on July 20, 2005, 05:02:21 am
do it in another program you are more comfortable with and convert in 3ds with 3dexploration.
BTW, you know you risk the ban saying that clearly that your copy isn't exactly legal, ya?
Title: 3DS Max help
Post by: Lifa on July 20, 2005, 05:09:41 am
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Originally posted by KARMA
do it in another program you are more comfortable with and convert in 3ds with 3dexploration.
BTW, you know you risk the ban saying that clearly that your copy isn't exactly legal, ya?
 The only proggy I know is 3DS Max.  ~Sad face~  I haven't gotten to the classes where they teach us Maya yet.  I don't know that it matters whether my copy is legal or not 'cause I don't distribute anything I've done, it's strictly for school purposes only.
Title: 3DS Max help
Post by: KARMA on July 20, 2005, 05:15:32 am
there's gmax that can be dloaded for free. You'll probably loose some hours by finding a way to convert to 3ds, tho (IIRC there's a plugin to save in m3d, then yuo'll have to convert m3d to 3ds)
Title: 3DS Max help
Post by: Black Wolf on July 20, 2005, 05:33:47 am
He wont get bant for having less than legal copies. Hell - that'd probably mean half the community got the boot.
Title: 3DS Max help
Post by: Lifa on July 20, 2005, 05:34:30 am
Like I said, the only proggy I know is 3DS Max... My internet connection hasn't been allowing downloads as it has been shutting off every 5 minutes or so for the past few weeks... I haven't gotten the internet company to resolve the problem yet.  I'm just looking for someone who knows a quicker fix for why it's not loading right.  It's 3 in the morning and I haven't slept in over two days.  My other option is to try to goto school to get it done before class but usually all of the computer labs are full so that's no guarantee either.
Title: 3DS Max help
Post by: Lifa on July 20, 2005, 05:47:05 am
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Originally posted by Black Wolf
He wont get bant for having less than legal copies. Hell - that'd probably mean half the community got the boot.
 I'm a girl.
Title: 3DS Max help
Post by: Lifa on July 20, 2005, 05:48:55 am
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Originally posted by Lifa
 I'm a girl.


...Eh, I sound so stupid, I'm probably just adding fuel to the stereotype that girls are silly computer-illiterate twits.  Sorry to all girls out there.  Atleast I know how to work Photoshop decently.  >_>
Title: 3DS Max help
Post by: KARMA on July 20, 2005, 05:51:33 am
gmax is 3dmax, but with many limitations. Anyway, if you can't dload it's of no use, and I don't have any other suggestions, sorry
Title: 3DS Max help
Post by: karajorma on July 20, 2005, 06:46:36 am
If 3DS Max is giving you an error when it crashes out tell us what exactly it says. Someone may recognise it.

Just out of interest who recommended us? :)
Title: 3DS Max help
Post by: Hippo on July 20, 2005, 06:48:15 am
You aren't running SP2 are you? My cracked MAX6 won't install on SP2, as the registry doesn't work. Either downgrade to SP1, or copy over the registry files from an SP1 install.
Title: Re: 3DS Max help
Post by: Goober5000 on July 20, 2005, 06:49:20 am
:welcome:
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Originally posted by Lifa
They're both not exactly legal copies and are prone to really hating me--very touchy and I'm not sure yet what I'd have to do to get either one of them back up and running.
Well this is more of a tech support question than a modelling question, but we'll do what we can. :) What sort of problems are you having?  Any error messages?  Crashes?
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Anyways, I have a large project due for class tomorrow at noon
If this is for a class, then there ought to be some sort of public computer lab somewhere where they have 3DSMax running, wouldn't there?
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a friend referred me to this site
Which friend?  Anyone from here?
Title: 3DS Max help
Post by: Lifa on July 20, 2005, 07:02:59 am
To address what people have been talking about:

1.  3DS Max 7 worked fine until tonight.  I don't get an error message, just a failure to load.  I have restarted a few times.  I'm not running SP2.

2.  Thanks for welcoming me here!

3.  The computer labs open at 8 AM, when the first class starts.  Usually there is not a computer available (the only time there really is, is on Fridays).  The first class lets out at noon, and I have to be to class with my project by 12.30.  (I usually like being there by noon, so I'm not late.)  However, the school's 3DS Max works worse than mine does and due to viruses and not-too-good computers it usually crashes during a save--which is why I have 3DS on my home computer.  It's worth a shot but I don't think I'll have time to get my project done on the school computers tomorrow morning--and an incomplete project is about as good as if I didn't do it at all.
Title: 3DS Max help
Post by: karajorma on July 20, 2005, 07:51:50 am
Uninstall and reinstall sometimes works(3DS Max not windows). Might be worth trying.
Title: 3DS Max help
Post by: brugger on July 20, 2005, 07:59:36 am
if you sill have the install files for either version of max you can uninstall one of them and the liscense borrowing utility or whatever its called then reinstall. with no serial max automatically goes to a 30 day trial that should work. you'll have to figure your crack later but it should get you through class today

edit-Safecast shared components is the name of the liscence thingy in the add remove program list (this might only work with 6 i've never used 7)
Title: 3DS Max help
Post by: KARMA on July 20, 2005, 08:37:13 am
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Originally posted by Lifa
To address what people have been talking about:

1.  3DS Max 7 worked fine until tonight.  I don't get an error message, just a failure to load.  I have restarted a few times.  I'm not running SP2.

 



then, you should try to reset your computer to a precedent restore point (dunno if it is this how it is called in english)
this is because there are imho 2 possibilities:
1-you did something wrong like getting viruses, updating windows, screwing windows somehow, updating some drivers, installing some programs etc. This should be fixable choosing to restore windows to when max was still working
2-dunno how max license works, but it sound like if a license has expired (althought you should receive a warning)
Title: 3DS Max help
Post by: Nico on July 20, 2005, 09:06:03 am
Pah, one of you should just make a bug mesh and give it away :p
Title: 3DS Max help
Post by: KARMA on July 20, 2005, 09:38:42 am
well, since you are one of the best max modellers of the community...:p
Title: 3DS Max help
Post by: karajorma on July 20, 2005, 09:41:52 am
That would be immoral though and we're all good people :p
Title: 3DS Max help
Post by: redsniper on July 20, 2005, 10:19:22 am
^^ *laughs uncontrollably* :lol:
I hope you didn't type that with a straight face.
Title: 3DS Max help
Post by: Nico on July 20, 2005, 10:25:45 am
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Originally posted by KARMA
well, since you are one of the best max modellers of the community...:p


Ah, but I'm without a doubt the laziest one :p
Title: 3DS Max help
Post by: aldo_14 on July 20, 2005, 10:47:18 am
Can you not just use the demo version for a short while?
Title: 3DS Max help
Post by: Lifa on July 21, 2005, 12:05:27 am
Thanks for all of your help, guys!  I showed up at the school at 7.15 to make sure I was the first one in to get a computer at 8 (blargh) and made a neat little 3D file aptly titled "bug hump."  :lol:   I got it turned in on time, got a few extra hours of sleep, and came home to fix my computer during the 2 hours between my afternoon class and my evening class.  (After losing some time working on it to troubleshoot, I decided to reinstall... it took me almost an hour to find the disc I have 3DS stored on.)  Again, thank you all for helping me out, and I'm happy to say that things turned out alright for me!
Title: 3DS Max help
Post by: Roanoke on July 21, 2005, 06:28:26 am
here's me thinking this was another scammer......:doubt:
Title: 3DS Max help
Post by: Lifa on July 21, 2005, 11:52:50 am
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Originally posted by Roanoke
here's me thinking this was another scammer......:doubt:
 Actually, no.  ^-^  I really was desperately looking for help the other night, I'm sure you probably know how it is when you've got a project due the next day and your programs start crashing.  I was happy that people were so quick to offer advice (ya'll are nicer than on most forums) and I'm very pleased that the situation turned out so well for me.  ^-^;  I'm sorry that you don't like me.
Title: 3DS Max help
Post by: karajorma on July 21, 2005, 12:00:58 pm
I doubt that's true. More likely Roanoke was simply surprised you turned out to be genuine :)

Anyway we're always happy to have another modeller in the community. And more females = more potential female voice actoresses.

Stick around :)
Title: 3DS Max help
Post by: brugger on July 21, 2005, 04:50:03 pm
yes stick around, and i'd like to see the bug model
Title: 3DS Max help
Post by: Lifa on July 22, 2005, 04:41:16 am
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Originally posted by brugger
yes stick around, and i'd like to see the bug model
 When I get it skinned I'll show it off.  I'm not too great at 3D, though... I'm better with my tablet (Tabby the Tablet, it's my best friend) and Photoshop than I am with 3DS.  I'm hoping to get better.  I'm not as new at skinning/texturing/whatever you wanna call it as I am at modelling so I'm hoping I can make it look better... dunno.  Would be nice.  ^_^
Title: 3DS Max help
Post by: karajorma on July 22, 2005, 05:11:19 am
We need good texturers more than modellers actually :)

Might be worth moving this to the art forum unless you're planning to but the giant insect into the game though. (Wouldn't be the first time either).
Title: 3DS Max help
Post by: Martinus on July 22, 2005, 05:13:48 am
[color=66ff00]Welcome Lifa.

Concerning the 'liberated' copies of max... I'd have to say that it's nothing we have to worry about. If someone was openly linking to a copy that would be banning material.

I'd say a rather huge proportion of computer users have one or more pieces of so called illegal software on their computers even if it is only a no-CD crack or the like.
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Title: 3DS Max help
Post by: Roanoke on July 22, 2005, 07:24:59 am
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Originally posted by karajorma
I doubt that's true. More likely Roanoke was simply surprised you turned out to be genuine :)

Anyway we're always happy to have another modeller in the community. And more females = more potential female voice actoresses.

Stick around :)


Inded. Nothing personal Lifa. See this kind of thing alot on modeling sites.

Actually, I managed to delete 9 of my 10 object project the night it was due and saved the friggin scene!!! Had to dash home and grab a back up. :nervous:
Title: 3DS Max help
Post by: Lifa on July 22, 2005, 01:34:29 pm
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Originally posted by karajorma
We need good texturers more than modellers actually :)

Might be worth moving this to the art forum unless you're planning to but the giant insect into the game though. (Wouldn't be the first time either).
 I'm not advanced enough to put anything into a game, although I hope that one of my classes in the upcoming semesters will teach that (I'm actually in college for video game design, one of about 5 girls in the major).  ^_^;  I can't even animate 3D.  2D--no problem.  I've actually been working on the script and concept art for an animated movie that my friend and I are collaborating on for the past six years and am now starting to animate pieces of it.  I could provide you guys with the files for it, though, and as long as you don't steal it and claim for your own (I don't see why you'd want to) you'd be welcome to animate it or put it in any game that you'd like.

Also, concerning liberated software (directed towards Maeglamor) as far as I understand it with artistic tools such as 3DS and Photoshop, etc., the companies don't really care about liberated or not liberated until you start trying to make a profit off of things that you've done in the program--which I never have.  ^_^

Anyways, as far as texturing goes, throw something at me and I'll give it a shot when I get some free time (which, I'll admit, isn't often--I goto school 3 days a week and work the other 4.  I'm a full-time employee.  10 hours a day for 4 consecutive days is rough.)  But yeah, give me something and I'll do my best shot at retexturing it.
Title: 3DS Max help
Post by: KARMA on July 22, 2005, 01:49:26 pm
well I didn't want to make terrorism:) (I use too that kind of software), I just seemed to remember some old threads where discussion derailed too much on those arguments, and I know many other forums where you are always at ban risk talking of pirated progs
Title: 3DS Max help
Post by: brugger on July 22, 2005, 05:40:03 pm
have you played freespace or fs2, as a future video game designer I'm assuming that you appreciate a well put together game, it's a little old but the guys in SCP have made some amazing improvements to the graphics and effects and the gameplay has always rocked.
Title: 3DS Max help
Post by: aldo_14 on July 22, 2005, 05:54:47 pm
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Originally posted by karajorma
We need good texturers more than modellers actually :)

Might be worth moving this to the art forum unless you're planning to but the giant insect into the game though. (Wouldn't be the first time either).


Wouldn't be the first bug we've seen in Freespace!

(I'll get me coat)
Title: 3DS Max help
Post by: AqueousShadow on July 23, 2005, 01:00:39 am
Animation code for the shell and wings?

And glad that your class project turned out alright. Welcome, and I think you'd do best to familiarize yourself with Freespace 2. 'Cause now you're trapped :devil:
Title: 3DS Max help
Post by: Lifa on July 23, 2005, 01:37:21 am
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Originally posted by AqueousShadow
Animation code for the shell and wings?

And glad that your class project turned out alright. Welcome, and I think you'd do best to familiarize yourself with Freespace 2. 'Cause now you're trapped :devil:


Eep.  It was a SEAMLESS model.  It doesn't have seperate parts like shells and wings.
Title: 3DS Max help
Post by: karajorma on July 23, 2005, 03:23:02 am
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Originally posted by aldo_14
Wouldn't be the first bug we've seen in Freespace!


Indeed it wouldn't (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,33716.0.html)!
Title: 3DS Max help
Post by: Lifa on July 29, 2005, 02:02:59 am
Hi again folks.  ^-^  I'm going to be taking awhile to texture my insect project well so that I can post it up here and show off (to people who are likely 100 times better than me.)
Title: 3DS Max help
Post by: Taristin on July 29, 2005, 04:06:47 pm
Regarding 'liberated software' I'd like to point out that everything on my PC has been liberated. Windows 2000. Windows XP. (both Professional). Photoshop (although my Wacom did come with CS, so meh). Nero. Trillian. Max 5 (lost) 6, and 7. Truespace 6.6. 3dexploration.

So yeah. If that was banworthy, I'd be long gone :p

*waits for his ISP and whoever else to knock down his door and try to seize his PC*
Title: 3DS Max help
Post by: Goober5000 on July 29, 2005, 05:33:32 pm
*contemplates changing Raa's title to "Banned for Liberating Software"*

*decides against it*
Title: 3DS Max help
Post by: FireCrack on July 29, 2005, 05:37:46 pm
man raa, your almosst as liberal as me!