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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Setekh on July 25, 2001, 08:22:00 am

Title: 'Take evasive action, pilot!'
Post by: Setekh on July 25, 2001, 08:22:00 am: This, errr, took me a few minutes (following in the great Styxx tradition), but I wanted to test out this effect. Actually, I've known about it a few days, but I've just been keeping stuff to myself.

Anyway... take evasive action, pilot!

(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/staff/setekh/explosion-test-alone.jpg)

(I contemplated making the caption 'oh shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit!'... but decided against it.)
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Post by: Fineus on July 25, 2001, 08:27:00 am: Isn't he great people? lets give the guy a hand, our very own Setekh! master of rendering development!

It rocks, I'll be using that in future - well done (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Post by: Setekh on July 25, 2001, 08:29:00 am: I don't know whether to thank you for the compliment, or throw a fridge at you for your sarcasm. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)

Cheers (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif) Pretty explosions... (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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Post by: Top Gun on July 25, 2001, 08:37:00 am: WOW (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/cool.gif) Nice Render (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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Post by: Setekh on July 25, 2001, 08:59:00 am: While I'm in the giving mood... (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

Let's just say it was this guy who was responsible for those little explosions back there, eh? (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/staff/setekh/shivore-scan.jpg)

Gotta love whoever has the envious job of Shivan research...
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Post by: Fineus on July 25, 2001, 09:03:00 am: Of course the Shivans don't allways win...

(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/staff/thunder/eliminated.jpg)

(Sorry, I couldn't help myself (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif))

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Title: 'Take evasive action, pilot!'
Post by: Styxx on July 25, 2001, 09:04:00 am: Heh, nice job there steakboy! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

[edit: your's is really nice too Thunder...]

[This message has been edited by Styxx (edited 07-25-2001).]
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Post by: Taristin on July 25, 2001, 09:11:00 am: That shivan one kicks *** ... But I like the idea of a Terran winning better... (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Title: 'Take evasive action, pilot!'
Post by: IceFire on July 25, 2001, 09:48:00 am: I WANT MODELS (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: 'Take evasive action, pilot!'
Post by: QXMX on July 25, 2001, 11:26:00 am: Terrans always win (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

BTW, cool pic awards for everyone (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Post by: Joey_21 on July 25, 2001, 01:41:00 pm: Nice job, guys. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif) Gotta love the power of rendering. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)

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Post by: Slanker on July 25, 2001, 03:08:00 pm: Quote
Originally posted by IceFire:
I WANT MODELS (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

Who´s that Newbie? (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)
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Post by: DragonClaw on July 25, 2001, 05:23:00 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Slanker:
Who´s that Newbie? (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)

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Title: 'Take evasive action, pilot!'
Post by: Stryke 9 on July 25, 2001, 07:43:00 pm: Shivans and Terrans both get their asses kicked by Vasudans. Then I blow up the Vasudans.

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Can I get my title to say "least relevant person on Earth"?
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Post by: Martinus on July 25, 2001, 08:00:00 pm: *in best Darth Vader voice* - Impressive, most impressive.

You guys just keep improving all the time, nice work dudes (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Title: 'Take evasive action, pilot!'
Post by: Fineus on July 26, 2001, 01:03:00 am: Thanks (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

I feel compelled to say that Setekh has been making a good 80% of progress lately, I've just been finding out his techniques and putting them into practice for myself. But it's fair to say we#ve both come a hell of a long way since the beginning...

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Post by: Setekh on July 26, 2001, 07:25:00 am: Yay, everyone likes 'em. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

Hey Thunder, we've been going at this how long? We're gettin' old... (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
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Post by: Fineus on July 27, 2001, 03:17:00 am: I know, my aching joints and all (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)

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Title: 'Take evasive action, pilot!'
Post by: Setekh on July 27, 2001, 04:22:00 am: Beware weak, watery imitations!

Bump-mapping. I just had a go at it last night, and here is what I came up with...

(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/staff/setekh/bump-map-trial.jpg)

Another 10 minute render (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif) I'll use some better lighting on the next one... (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: 'Take evasive action, pilot!'
Post by: Fineus on July 27, 2001, 04:24:00 am: Quote
Originally posted by Thunder:
Isn't he great people? lets give the guy a hand, our very own Setekh! master of rendering development!

It rocks, I'll be using that in future - well done (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

(http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
Title: 'Take evasive action, pilot!'
Post by: Setekh on July 27, 2001, 04:40:00 am: The more things change, the more they stay the same (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)

(I think I should start charging royalties for my rendering methods... (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif))

[This message has been edited by Setekh (edited 07-27-2001).]
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Post by: Carl on July 27, 2001, 09:54:00 am: Quote
Originally posted by Setekh:
I've known about it a few days, but I've just been keeping stuff to myself.

i found out about it over a month ago.

[This message has been edited by Carl (edited 07-27-2001).]
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Post by: Taristin on July 27, 2001, 10:02:00 am: I've known about it but have no clue how to implement it. (P.O.S. Ts!!!)
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Post by: Bobboau on July 27, 2001, 10:10:00 am: in the little material reticel (four spheres) the lower right one is displacement, select bump map, then select the map, just like textures.

now I just have to wait for setekh to figure out the layered reflectence.

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Post by: Setekh on July 27, 2001, 10:43:00 am: (http://www.3dap.com/hlp/staff/setekh/atmos-maneuvring.jpg)

Here's another one for you... I'm in the mood for a few short thingies. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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Post by: Taristin on July 27, 2001, 11:07:00 am: ...Cut it out. It's not fair.
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Post by: Taristin on July 27, 2001, 11:31:00 am: Quote
Originally posted by Setekh:
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/staff/setekh/bump-map-trial.jpg)

(http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/us/images/mods/snipes/nbvb.jpg)
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Post by: wEvil on July 27, 2001, 11:56:00 am: i keep forgetting..what progs do you people use?
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Post by: Taristin on July 27, 2001, 12:59:00 pm: Setekh has his own, lucky bastard... (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)

I use TS5. And soon, MAX 4.
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Post by: Nico on July 27, 2001, 03:37:00 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Setekh:
Beware weak, watery imitations!

Bump-mapping. I just had a go at it last night, and here is what I came up with...

(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/staff/setekh/bump-map-trial.jpg)

Another 10 minute render (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif) I'll use some better lighting on the next one... (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

Now you have to make a true bump map, coz there there's also bump on the white drawings and all, and it's wrong (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

[This message has been edited by venom2506 (edited 07-28-2001).]
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Post by: Spectre on July 27, 2001, 10:28:00 pm: Hmmm i did this a while ago (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

(http://home.att.net/~CTMarciano/CruiserAttack.jpg)
*runs away and hides*
oh wait heres another explosion.
(http://home.att.net/~CTMarciano/corvette.jpg)

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Post by: Setekh on July 27, 2001, 10:46:00 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Setekh:
Here's another one for you... I'm in the mood for a few short thingies. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

I was in such a hurry I forgot to explain why I made this one. It was a misadventure into trying to implement reflections... it kind of looked like snow, and I played around with it further, and came up with that. Rendered a foggy snow scene, and there you have it. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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Post by: Shrike on July 27, 2001, 10:51:00 pm: Get out those de-icers, pilot! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif)
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Post by: Fineus on July 28, 2001, 01:12:00 am: I thought you were showing us the textures on that Myrmidon, which look decidedly battle scarred, like something out of Mech Warrior 4 or something. It looks great!

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Post by: Carl on July 28, 2001, 06:43:00 am: no no no i'm saying i've known how to do the explosions effects for over a month. i've known about bump mapping for way longer.
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Post by: Setekh on July 28, 2001, 08:18:00 am: Sorry, who are you talking to? (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/staff/setekh/silent-flight.jpg)

Play of light and shadow is beautiful. And that thing in the bg is meant to be a black hole of sorts... (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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Post by: Carl on July 28, 2001, 09:22:00 am: Quote
Originally posted by Setekh:
Sorry, who are you talking to?

i was rephrasing my previous statement about knowing how to make those explosion effects (using the photoshop screen option) because snipes thought i was talking about bump mapping.

so in summary: sorry to dissapoint you Steak, but you weren't the first to employ that explosion making Technique.
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Post by: Setekh on July 28, 2001, 11:20:00 am: What? I did? (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif)
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Post by: Nico on July 28, 2001, 12:31:00 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Setekh:
And that thing in the bg is meant to be a black hole of sorts... (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

I thought it was a galaxy of some sort (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Ok, let's say it's a white hole (someone to imagine how such a thing could work? (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) )

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Post by: Jabu on July 28, 2001, 12:39:00 pm: White holes just spew out stuff (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

Don't know much about them, haven't really been interested. Just figured they were black holes working the opposite way, spewing stuff out from a singularity.
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Post by: KillMeNow on July 28, 2001, 01:50:00 pm: white holes - no such thing - pure sci fi
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Post by: Jabu on July 28, 2001, 02:06:00 pm: They said that about black holes too, back in the day (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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Post by: Nico on July 28, 2001, 02:39:00 pm: ??? lol that was just a joke lol, I never heard about white holes before (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif)
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Post by: Fineus on July 28, 2001, 03:30:00 pm: [contemplative mood on] If you ask me, the chances are that in an unmeasured universe, anything is possible, and is also probable as well. Only those who believe that humanity is alone in the universe would not be able to see this.

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Post by: Taristin on July 28, 2001, 03:32:00 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Thunder:
Only those who believe that humanity is alone in the universe would not be able to see this.

humans...? Alone...? Yeah right. There has got to be life out there. It is so damn hard to believe that in the trillions of systems out there, and all of the unexplored sectors of space, that there isn't some form of life, Advanced, or in it's infancy...

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Post by: Sandwich on July 28, 2001, 03:54:00 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Raa Tor'h:
...and all of the unexplored sectors of space...

(http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif) As opposed to all those explored sectors? (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)

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Post by: Jabu on July 28, 2001, 04:16:00 pm: "...and pray there's intelligent life somewhere out in space, cos there's bugger all down here on Earth"

Monty Python, and they're very right as always (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
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Post by: Nico on July 28, 2001, 06:23:00 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Thunder:
[contemplative mood on] If you ask me, the chances are that in an unmeasured universe, anything is possible, and is also probable as well. Only those who believe that humanity is alone in the universe would not be able to see this.

Huck, I do hope you're wrong, otherwise it must exist a planet where there is .... Hmmm Nah I won't say that (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
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Post by: Carl on July 28, 2001, 07:53:00 pm: there is one theory that states that if the universe is infinite in size then anything and everything must happen, and all at the same time. it makes sense.
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Post by: icespeed on July 29, 2001, 12:19:00 am: if black holes are gateways to other universes, can white holes be gateways from other universes?
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Post by: Setekh on July 29, 2001, 12:42:00 am: That's exactly what they are. Every black hole in what universe equates to a white hole in another universe. All these universes are connected, hence the name, Multiverse.
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Post by: Fineus on July 29, 2001, 01:56:00 am: Although monkeys remain a mystery to pretty much everyone....
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Post by: Sushi on July 29, 2001, 02:13:00 am: Quote
Originally posted by Carl:
there is one theory that states that if the universe is infinite in size then anything and everything must happen, and all at the same time. it makes sense.

But that only can be true if the universe is infinitely varied, and because physics laws tend to stay the same, that isn't very likely. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

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Post by: NeoHunter on July 29, 2001, 02:44:00 am: Great renders!! First time I'm actually visiting the Had Light Forums in a long time. Work and all.

Setekh, you got to teach me how you do the picture where it zooms in on the pilot of the Shivan Mara. That one rocks!!!!!!

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Post by: Setekh on July 29, 2001, 09:34:00 am: Quote
Originally posted by NeoHunter:
Setekh, you got to teach me how you do the picture where it zooms in on the pilot of the Shivan Mara. That one rocks!!!!!!

Thanks, NeoHunter (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif) It's actually surpisingly simple... I could probably do a step-by-step of it... (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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Post by: Sandwich on July 29, 2001, 05:35:00 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Jabu:
"...and pray there's intelligent life somewhere out in space, cos there's bugger all down here on Earth"

Actually, there is irrefutable proof that life from other planets, if it indeed does exist, is intelligent - more so than humans, at least. What proof is that, you ask? The fact that they have not made contact with us, for one. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif)

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Post by: Spectre on July 29, 2001, 06:22:00 pm: Hey Setekh, That silent flight pic cool as sheeet (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif) good work.

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Post by: NeoHunter on July 29, 2001, 11:36:00 pm: Quote
Originally posted by sandwich:
Actually, there is irrefutable proof that life from other planets, if it indeed does exist, is intelligent - more so than humans, at least. What proof is that, you ask? The fact that they have not made contact with us, for one. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif)

There is, without a doubt, life on other planets. The question is how many of them have intelligent life? Some of them could have life as primitive as when the dinosaurs were still roaming the Earth. Some of them could have life more advanced than us.

Maybe those very advanced races think we are not advanced enough and do not wish to make contact with us or still do not know of our existance.

The possibilities are endless........ (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Post by: NeoHunter on July 29, 2001, 11:40:00 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Setekh:
Thanks, NeoHunter (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif) It's actually surpisingly simple... I could probably do a step-by-step of it... (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

Okay! What program did you use to create that picture? I only have Adobe Photoshop 6 at home.

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Post by: Fineus on July 30, 2001, 12:56:00 am: He uses Spire, a custom made program built by himself and his brother. It only runs on Linux mind you, and if your lucky most if not all of what it does can be done in Photoshop or something worked around like that.

Oh, and thanks for the compliments on the render (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Post by: Setekh on July 31, 2001, 02:59:00 am: Quote
Originally posted by Spectre:
Hey Setekh, That silent flight pic cool as sheeet (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif) good work.

Cheers, dude (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif) Got something else cool, that you'll all see soon - all in good time (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)

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Originally posted by NeoHunter:
Okay! What program did you use to create that picture? I only have Adobe Photoshop 6 at home.

Yep, as Thunder has mentioned many a time (because he bugged me about it a lot at one stage - now I bug him about it now (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)), I use Spire. However, again, he's right in that most effects I've been able to do with Spire, Thunder and I have found parallels in Photoshop. I can't say that everything will work the same or come out exactly right, but Photoshop is a huge program, and surely there are plenty of possiblities to explore. Albeit they might be hidden under a plethora of menus or paletes and an exorbitant price (one of the reasons I started the Spire project), it is indisputable that the power is all there.

That said... it's really just a matter of transparent path objects (in various programs called aliases and vectors), the same with frames, and a lot of glow effects. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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Post by: NeoHunter on July 31, 2001, 09:41:00 am: So, who can teach me how to do beam effects in Photoshop?

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Post by: Setekh on August 01, 2001, 02:58:00 am: Heh heh, Thunder? (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
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Post by: Fineus on August 01, 2001, 03:07:00 am: Whistles....

Um... I have really bad typing cramp right now but I've bookmarked this thread so I'll come back to it later when I feel a little better about typing large amounts of stuff...

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Post by: Carl on August 01, 2001, 11:34:00 pm: Quote
Originally posted by NeoHunter:
So, who can teach me how to do beam effects in Photoshop?

i'm not too sure if i want to reveal my secret of how to make my patented 133+ beams(TM) but i'll think about it.
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Post by: NeoHunter on August 01, 2001, 11:47:00 pm: Thanks a lot you guys! I'll check back here soon. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Post by: Setekh on August 02, 2001, 08:29:00 am: Well, what I used to do was draw a triangle, and then make that glow. Worked for me... (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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Post by: Fineus on August 02, 2001, 03:19:00 pm: Hmm, to tell the truth in my latest render (which only Setekh has seen (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)) I've used a slightly different way of doing the beams than before, but I think it's probably as effective although it could use some refining.

Make a brush, give it a size of 200 and a "roundness" of 20 or something. Make it green, red, yellow - whatever the beam will be. Then make a beam shape from the beam turret to the target. Next make the brush smaller and less round again and select white. Essentially you are handpainting a beam, you know more or less what one looks like I assume? so in the end you achieve a beam. Any questions? (not to clear a description I know).
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Post by: Sandwich on August 02, 2001, 05:22:00 pm: Yeah - do you have any way to keep the beam straight when you hand-paint it, unlike Ace and his bending beams? (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif)

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Post by: Fineus on August 03, 2001, 01:37:00 am: Funny that, gotta love it (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Yeah I do - you use a "straight line selection tool" any make a beam shape. This means that you can fill in the line pretty easily and hand touch it to suit your needs. I'll try and do a rapid render to show what I mean later. Also note that the straight lines on the beam probably won't matter because you'll have an explosion infront of it anyway (hopefully) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)

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Post by: Setekh on August 03, 2001, 02:41:00 am: Does PhotoShop have paths/vectors? Or is it just Illustrator? Paths are like shapes which can be resized and deformed as much as you want, but they are recalculated everytime that happens, so you never lose any quality on them. I used paths to do all the schematics and flight path in my guide to atmospheric maneuvring ("http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/hosted/array/imgarchive.php?image=69"). (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)