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Title: The enemy has a new name
Post by: Martinus on July 22, 2005, 08:30:48 am: [color=66ff00]And it is... WindowsVista. //www.betanews.com/article/Longhorn_Gets_a_Name_Windows_Vista/1122002477]link
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Title: The enemy has a new name
Post by: redsniper on July 22, 2005, 08:38:35 am: I think it's a dumb name.
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Post by: BlackDove on July 22, 2005, 08:41:52 am: Signed and sealed.
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Post by: Genoism on July 22, 2005, 09:11:15 am: longhorn was so much better....
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Post by: kode on July 22, 2005, 09:23:42 am: it beats "millenium", though. and bob.
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Post by: Kie99 on July 22, 2005, 09:37:38 am: Quote
Originally posted by redsniper
I think it's a dumb name.
Title: The enemy has a new name
Post by: redsniper on July 22, 2005, 09:55:52 am: I'd rather see Windows: 'We've spent this whole time bug-fixing, rather than adding more resource-hogging crap to "help" you, so that now you can have a decent OS that doesn't crash all the time and whine about everything' Edition
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Post by: DaBrain on July 22, 2005, 09:57:21 am: Hmmm Linux sounds better IMHO. ;7

TCPA = time to switch to Linux. :yes:
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Post by: Nico on July 22, 2005, 10:04:56 am: I prefered Longhorn too, but I don't care, it's just a name.
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Post by: General Freak on July 22, 2005, 10:20:26 am: Is 'vista' Spanish? What does it mean?
Hasta la Windows vista. :p
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Post by: MicroPsycho on July 22, 2005, 10:30:50 am: are there any screenshots to show what it looks like? (assuming it doesn't look like xp)
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Post by: Goober5000 on July 22, 2005, 10:41:28 am: Quote
Originally posted by redsniper
I think it's a dumb name.
Me too. But at least it means something. XP is just two letters.
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Originally posted by MicroPsycho
are there any screenshots to show what it looks like? (assuming it doesn't look like xp)
The article had a "preview video", but the operating system itself was conspicuously absent. :p
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Post by: Roanoke on July 22, 2005, 11:17:25 am: Everyone will switch back to the old pre-XP layout as they do now anyway.
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Post by: Martinus on July 22, 2005, 11:37:24 am: [color=66ff00]I thought the joke about the merging of the windows platforms was excellent. :)

Windows CE, ME and NT.
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Post by: Goober5000 on July 22, 2005, 11:40:57 am: :lol: Where did you see that? That's great! :lol:
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Post by: vyper on July 22, 2005, 11:57:31 am: Someone needs a new marketing department.
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Post by: Kosh on July 22, 2005, 12:12:41 pm: :wtf: Is this a joke?
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Post by: Cobra on July 22, 2005, 12:32:35 pm: well, this is gonna last long. NOT.

seriously, we don't need this. i'm quite partial to my XP as it is. :p
Title: The enemy has a new name
Post by: Kosh on July 22, 2005, 12:46:21 pm: I'm more partial to 2000.

Then again XP was simply windows 2k with more bells and whistles attached to it. :p
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Post by: Martinus on July 22, 2005, 12:53:24 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Goober5000
:lol: Where did you see that? That's great! :lol:

[color=66ff00]Right here (www.geocities.com/rcwoolley/).
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Title: The enemy has a new name
Post by: Martinus on July 22, 2005, 12:57:12 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Cobra
well, this is gonna last long. NOT.

seriously, we don't need this. i'm quite partial to my XP as it is. :p

[color=66ff00]You don't really get a choice. You can run linux on whatever platform you like and add new features as modules. Microsoft on the other hand designs its OSes so that you have to upgrade at a certain point.
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Post by: Cobra on July 22, 2005, 12:58:56 pm: i'm wanting linux right now, but i'm not paying $300 for a new OS. :nervous:
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Post by: Martinus on July 22, 2005, 01:00:03 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Cobra
i'm wanting linux right now, but i'm not paying $300 for a new OS. :nervous:

[color=66ff00]Eh? Linux is free.
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Post by: Cobra on July 22, 2005, 01:00:29 pm: oh. where can i get it, then? :D
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Post by: vyper on July 22, 2005, 01:01:27 pm: Google.
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Post by: Cobra on July 22, 2005, 01:02:13 pm: ah yes, our mystical answer to all our problems. :rolleyes:
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Post by: Martinus on July 22, 2005, 01:03:47 pm: [color=66ff00]I'll point you to Ubuntu (www.ubuntulinux.org/) for now, it's got a big following due to its ease of use.

I'd warn you though that linux is not for everyone. You'll need to do no small amount of reading to truely get to grips with it and then there's the games issue. FS2 runs on it in any case thanks to taylor and the magical folk at the SCP.
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Post by: vyper on July 22, 2005, 01:04:45 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Cobra
ah yes, our mystical answer to all our problems. :rolleyes:

Maybe if you actually did a little searching when people suggest it you might realise why.
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Post by: Cobra on July 22, 2005, 01:05:42 pm: which i have, and i've been directed to www.linux.org. :p
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Post by: Martinus on July 22, 2005, 01:11:08 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Cobra
which i have, and i've been directed to www.linux.org. :p

[color=66ff00]Linux.org is an excellent site that gives a lot of information about linux distros and linux in general.

You'd do well to read through it.
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Post by: Kosh on July 22, 2005, 01:16:17 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Cobra
i'm wanting linux right now, but i'm not paying $300 for a new OS. :nervous:

If you actually buy the next version of windows, then that is what you would pay.
Title: The enemy has a new name
Post by: achtung on July 22, 2005, 01:23:43 pm: asta la vista windows.
Title: The enemy has a new name
Post by: vyper on July 22, 2005, 01:35:08 pm: :lol:
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Post by: Carl on July 22, 2005, 01:56:28 pm: Quote
Originally posted by General Freak
Hasta la Windows vista. :p

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Originally posted by Swantz
asta la vista windows.

Wow, twice in one thread. I'm scared that this is going to be the new nerd joke for the next few months :shaking:
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Post by: Rictor on July 22, 2005, 03:46:53 pm: Quote

InfiniDim?
"We spent millions on that name, Prefect. Start liking it or start packing."
Ford shrugged. He had nothing to pack.
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Post by: pyro-manic on July 22, 2005, 07:48:52 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Kosh

If you actually buy the next version of windows, then that is what you would pay.

An excellent point. :yes:
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Post by: WMCoolmon on July 22, 2005, 08:26:51 pm: I'd be more excited to see more games for Linux, or better Windows emulators for Linux, or better 64-bit support for Linux.

If it continues in the direction of XP, heh.
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Post by: aldo_14 on July 23, 2005, 07:47:06 am: You can actually buy Windows?

Oh, and stupid side-story; http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/07/22/microsoft_spyware_vb6/
Title: The enemy has a new name
Post by: Admiral LSD on July 23, 2005, 08:36:18 am: meh, dumb names aside I'll still give it a shot. It's not like I'll actually be paying for it or anything... :nervous:
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Post by: Turnsky on July 23, 2005, 08:38:53 am: i remember hearing its specs say at least 1 gig minimum... that means i should start investing in 1gig ram sticks soon
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Post by: kode on July 23, 2005, 09:07:19 am: I've been thinking about upgrading pretty soon anyway. or maybe I'll just buy a powarbook...

but xp runs smooth on 256mb ram. :)
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Post by: WMCoolmon on July 23, 2005, 11:11:11 am: Quote
Originally posted by Turnsky
i remember hearing its specs say at least 1 gig minimum... that means i should start investing in 1gig ram sticks soon

:wtf: I just got 1 gig of RAM, for things like HL2, BF2, and fs2_open.

And you're telling me I need it to run Windows minimally? :wtf:
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Post by: karajorma on July 23, 2005, 11:15:03 am: I doubt it. MS typically have low minimum memory requirements for their OSs. So low one might even think that they were making it up.

Who in their right mind would run Windows 2000 DataCenter on 128Mb of RAM for instance?
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Post by: Kosh on July 23, 2005, 07:45:56 pm: I've seen XP machines run on early P2s with 128 MB of RAM. Granted they were extremely slow........

And I remember VB6. It was the first programming language I learned. Granted I didn't learn a whole lot and I forgot all of it. :p
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Post by: achtung on July 23, 2005, 11:03:56 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Kosh
I've seen XP machines run on early P2s with 128 MB of RAM. Granted they were extremely slow........

Drop that down to 64 mb of ram and a 300 something mhz p2, thats what some of the teacher workstations at my school run. Most student ones are p4's with 512mb of RAM.:p
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Post by: Unknown Target on July 23, 2005, 11:13:55 pm: Windows "Vista" supposadly will require hardware acceleration - JUST TO RUN THE DESKTOP. You know why? Because they're adding tons of useless crap, like windows that flutter in a virtual breeze when you click them, 3D icons, etc.
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Post by: Admiral LSD on July 24, 2005, 04:03:29 am: and just how many PCs running XP these days have no hardware acceleration capability whatsoever?
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Post by: WMCoolmon on July 24, 2005, 04:24:36 am: Yeah, I'd rather not have all my hardware acceleration being used to draw a directory I've got open. :wtf:
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Post by: Admiral LSD on July 24, 2005, 04:30:02 am: What else would it be being used for in that situation?
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Post by: Fenrir on July 24, 2005, 04:36:32 am: Does the Windows Classic theme really make that much of a difference in speed over the default XP themes?
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Post by: Clave on July 24, 2005, 04:39:19 am: Jaguar, Panther, and Tiger are much cooler names....

And desktop hardware acceleration is years old, in some circles...:p
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Post by: WMCoolmon on July 24, 2005, 04:48:04 am: Quote
Originally posted by Unknown Target
Windows "Vista" supposadly will require hardware acceleration - JUST TO RUN THE DESKTOP. You know why? Because they're adding tons of useless crap, like windows that flutter in a virtual breeze when you click them, 3D icons, etc.

I have no problem with hardware acceleration being utilized, it's when it's necessary to keep a decent framerate in Windows, with no apparent major UI improvements, that's what I don't like.
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Post by: Clave on July 24, 2005, 04:51:51 am: Ah well, everyone will be able to ditch Windows soon anyway. When Apple switch to Intel next year, there will be a whole new version of OS X for everyone to enjoy.

No more viruses or security worries, it's the way forward...
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Post by: Sandwich on July 24, 2005, 04:56:42 am: The hardware-accelerated features of Windows Vista are completely optional. MS isn't that stupid, you know. At the low end of display greebles, WinVis (?) won't require any more graphics power than XP or 2k, from what I understand.
Title: The enemy has a new name
Post by: Admiral LSD on July 24, 2005, 05:00:58 am: I honestly doubt that anything at the low end of being able to run Longhorn/Vista/whatever would not have some kind of hardware graphics accelerator...
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Post by: Martinus on July 24, 2005, 07:23:08 am: Quote
Originally posted by Clave
Jaguar, Panther, and Tiger are much cooler names....

And desktop hardware acceleration is years old, in some circles...:p

[color=66ff00]Sex Panther - it smells like gasoline.

Yeah, X11 (Linux gui daemon) has had the facility to use accelleration for some time now. It's a bit flakey due to non-open drivers though.
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Post by: Admiral LSD on July 24, 2005, 07:26:45 am: That's not the fault of the non-open drivers but rather the lack of overall stability in Linux development.
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Post by: Martinus on July 24, 2005, 07:34:43 am: Quote
Originally posted by Admiral LSD
That's not the fault of the non-open drivers but rather the lack of overall stability in Linux development.

[color=66ff00]Heheh you really have beef with the linux devs. :D

UPDATE: It seems Microsoft may have to rethink this: Link (seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2002397450_microvista23.html)
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Post by: Kamikaze on July 24, 2005, 10:04:40 am: It's flakey 'cause ATM it's more of a hack extension on top of X11.

XGL (http://lists.freedesktop.org/pipermail/xorg/2004-November/004358.html) should provide for decent acceleration on X11.
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Post by: Clave on July 24, 2005, 01:31:36 pm: Quote
The last major release, XP, went on sale in October 2001.

Holy cow! I never realised XP was that old!

And I hope they get sued over 'Vista' that would make my day ;)
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Post by: WMCoolmon on July 24, 2005, 03:21:31 pm: Ugh, I didn't think about Google searches. I can only imagine the crap you'll have to go through if you run into a problem, and the solution isn't on an ultra-popular site. :p
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Post by: aldo_14 on July 25, 2005, 05:49:55 am: Viruses, Infections, Spyware, Trojans, Adware (http://news.com.com/Windows+Vista+draws,+jokes,+scorn,+approval/2100-1016_3-5801300.html?part=rss&tag=5801300&subj=news
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Post by: Goober5000 on July 25, 2005, 02:49:40 pm: :lol: