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Title: More iPod problems
Post by: Unknown Target on July 22, 2005, 04:21:02 pm
Now this one is pretty serious. I turned on my ipod, and all of a sudden, I get a file with an exclamation point next to it. Fair enough - all my friends have gotten it. The way they fixed it was by either A) reformatting the ipod as a FAT32 drive, B) using the ipod installation CD to reset it, or C) using the ipod updater and restoring it).

However, when I try to do A, my computer freezes whenever I right click on the "Removable Drive" icon. When I do B, the dialouge box pops up, but I don't get a progress bar, and it seems to skip over the configuration - although I first uninstall all  ipod- related items, and the ipod doesn'ts how up. After the "installation," the ipod shows up as a removable drive - but still has the previous problems, where it freezes up.

Lastly, when I use C, the updater freezes.

Also, as a note, when the ipod is plugged in, iTunes will not launch.


Please help me! :D
Title: More iPod problems
Post by: Ford Prefect on July 22, 2005, 04:49:20 pm
This sounds obvious, but have you tried resetting it by holding down the select and menu buttons?
Title: More iPod problems
Post by: Unknown Target on July 22, 2005, 05:22:47 pm
Yes. It resets and comes up with the file error.
Title: More iPod problems
Post by: Windrunner on July 22, 2005, 06:35:36 pm
i've had the same problem when i got my ipod UT. i've tired reformatting it but my PC froze all of a sudden. Ipod help page didn't help mutch either. If you have USB 2.0 on your PC then that might be the problem. I couldn't format iPd when it was connected to and USB 2.0 port but when i tried it on a  1.1  on a older computer it worked perfectly.
Title: More iPod problems
Post by: Unknown Target on July 22, 2005, 10:13:25 pm
Restoring it on a 1.1 USB seems to have worked - with the exception that the computer seems to freeze when opening it up in my computer. However, I can now view the menus, etc.
Title: More iPod problems
Post by: Solatar on July 22, 2005, 11:04:01 pm
I had this problem...it was under warranty so I mailed it back and they sent me a replacement for free (I mailed it on a Weds, got it back that Saturday, which impressed me).

I could never get it to show anything other than the file with the exclamation point next to it though.
Title: More iPod problems
Post by: Sandwich on July 23, 2005, 12:37:51 am
..iPod.... :rolleyes: *giggles*
Title: More iPod problems
Post by: Ford Prefect on July 23, 2005, 12:39:17 am
It's a beautiful machine, and I would not part with mine for the world.
Title: More iPod problems
Post by: Sandwich on July 23, 2005, 12:53:06 am
Oh, I agree it's quite a work of art. It's just a shame that its reliability does not match its beauty.
Title: More iPod problems
Post by: Ford Prefect on July 23, 2005, 01:22:40 am
I don't have any problems with mine, and it looks to me like other brands of mp3 players tend to fall apart more quickly. I definitely wouldn't trust something from Creative or Rio over Apple.
Title: More iPod problems
Post by: Sandwich on July 23, 2005, 02:14:49 am
*coughirivercough*
Title: More iPod problems
Post by: Unknown Target on July 23, 2005, 12:08:27 pm
Turns out that the HD is fried - I get scratching noises eminating from the player. Depending on how much the repair costs, I might just get a new one - it's a choice between the iPod Photo and the iRiver - proboably the Photo.
Title: More iPod problems
Post by: Sandwich on July 23, 2005, 01:28:56 pm
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Originally posted by Unknown Target
Turns out that the HD is fried - I get scratching noises eminating from the player. Depending on how much the repair costs, I might just get a new one - it's a choice between the iPod Photo and the iRiver - proboably the Photo.


iPod Photo = music and photos
iRiver = music, photos, video, USB host (H3xx series)

Hmmm... :drevil:
Title: More iPod problems
Post by: Unknown Target on July 23, 2005, 01:55:02 pm
Now which is more reliable? :p
Title: More iPod problems
Post by: IceFire on July 23, 2005, 03:47:13 pm
Do the iRivers have user servicable removable/replacable batteries?  If they do, thats an automatic plus to the iRiver.  The Zen's do.
Title: More iPod problems
Post by: Ford Prefect on July 23, 2005, 05:01:22 pm
How did the hard drive get fried?
Title: More iPod problems
Post by: Sandwich on July 23, 2005, 05:10:12 pm
iRiver is more reliable AFAIK - they never had the mass battery death after 1.5 years like the iPods had. Unfortunately, I don't know of any iRiver HDD players with user removable batteries, though many of the flash players run on AA (or was it AAA?) batteries.
Title: More iPod problems
Post by: Unknown Target on July 23, 2005, 09:14:31 pm
How long do the last? How reliable are they? How much damage can they take? How much can they hold? What can they do? How much do they cost? INFO! :p

Also, I dunno how it broke. Someone picked it up off the floor at my job (it fell off the belt clip). I turned it on there and it worked, I cycled thru playlists, etc. Brought it home, set it down. Next day, I couldn't go thru lists - just got the file error.
Title: More iPod problems
Post by: Martinus on July 23, 2005, 09:19:48 pm
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Originally posted by Unknown Target
How long do the last? How reliable are they? How much damage can they take? How much can they hold? What can they do? How much do they cost? INFO! :p

Also, I dunno how it broke. Someone picked it up off the floor at my job (it fell off the belt clip). I turned it on there and it worked, I cycled thru playlists, etc. Brought it home, set it down. Next day, I couldn't go thru lists - just got the file error.

[color=66ff00]The mighty Google has all the answers you seek and more...
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Title: More iPod problems
Post by: Sandwich on July 24, 2005, 01:19:55 am
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Originally posted by Unknown Target
How long do the last? How reliable are they? How much damage can they take? How much can they hold? What can they do? How much do they cost? INFO! :p

Also, I dunno how it broke. Someone picked it up off the floor at my job (it fell off the belt clip). I turned it on there and it worked, I cycled thru playlists, etc. Brought it home, set it down. Next day, I couldn't go thru lists - just got the file error.


6 years, 12 weeks, 4 days, 64 hours, 48 minutes, and 42 (*GASP*) seconds. :D

Seriously, look up a few reviews on either the iRiver h340, the h320, or the h3xx (h300) series. Most often they are called "iPod killers", just not quite as polished.
(http://www.gearlive.com/blogimages/iriverh300.jpg)

Or you could go for an H10-series... they're iPod Mini sized, have a thumbstrip, and come in 4- and 6Gb sizes, with a 20Gb one due any day now. THOSE are sooo sweet looking...
(http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/01/20/iriver_h10.jpg)(http://www.clubic.com/photo/00116468.jpg)
Title: More iPod problems
Post by: Scuddie on July 24, 2005, 02:25:32 am
*drool*

Too bad iRivers are so damned expensive, though.
Title: More iPod problems
Post by: Windrunner on July 24, 2005, 06:30:47 am
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Originally posted by Scuddie


Too bad iRivers are so damned expensive, though.


there is your problem why so many aren't buying iriver .

to damn expensive
Title: More iPod problems
Post by: Admiral LSD on July 24, 2005, 06:38:34 am
...and Apple aren't? :p
Title: More iPod problems
Post by: Windrunner on July 24, 2005, 06:49:02 am
nah not that mutch :nervous:

seriously i don't know why i choose ipod. i guess i was too lazy to check upp all the other mp3 players :p
Title: More iPod problems
Post by: Unknown Target on July 24, 2005, 09:45:38 am
Alright, I just checked Apple's support site - $249 for a repair! They don't even repair your old iPod, they just send you a new one of the same type! For that money, I could get a brand new iPod Photo!

By the way, the iPod Photo and the iRiver cost the same...hmm...but I don't see anywhere where it says it plays videos, Sandwich.
Title: More iPod problems
Post by: Martinus on July 24, 2005, 10:07:14 am
[color=66ff00]Those iRiver 6GB units are tres sexay, I might pick one up when I get some cash together.

I don't really understand those multimedia units though, it just seems like an addon that's unnecessary and rather expensive.
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Title: More iPod problems
Post by: Sandwich on July 24, 2005, 05:31:50 pm
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Originally posted by Unknown Target
but I don't see anywhere where it says it plays videos, Sandwich.


It's not part of the official off-the-shelf specs, but - and this is what I love about iRiver (the company) - they released their firmware-upgradable player, saw it had a color screen, saw it had a reasonably fast processing unit, and so set out to make a firmware upgrade to enable video playback (http://www.iriver.com/html/support/download/sudw_view.asp?searchProductIdx=&searchCategoryIdx=&searchString=&page=4&idx=624&tmpSearchProductIdx=&tmpSearchCategoryIdx=&tmpSearchString=). :D
Title: More iPod problems
Post by: Admiral LSD on July 24, 2005, 05:48:49 pm
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Resolution   220 x 176 only   
Frame Rate   10fps at Maximum   
Bit Rate   500Kbps at Maximum(recommend under 450Kbps)


I wouldn't exactly call that 'video playback'

:doubt:
Title: More iPod problems
Post by: vyper on July 24, 2005, 06:00:22 pm
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Originally posted by Sandwich



Or you could go for an H10-series... they're iPod Mini sized, have a thumbstrip, and come in 4- and 6Gb sizes, with a 20Gb one due any day now. THOSE are sooo sweet looking...
(http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/01/20/iriver_h10.jpg)(http://www.clubic.com/photo/00116468.jpg)


Woo baby... ;7 :thepimp:
Title: More iPod problems
Post by: Sandwich on July 25, 2005, 02:02:32 am
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Originally posted by Admiral LSD


I wouldn't exactly call that 'video playback'

:doubt:


It's no DVD playback, sure, but who would want to watch a movie on such a screen? For TV episodes - Simpsons, Sienfeld, etc - it's fine. That resolution is the actual resolution of the screen itself, so higher than that is pointless. And at that resolution, that low bitrate is more than enough. The only thing that could stand improvement is the frame rate, which is probably limited to such a low amount due to hardware limitations. But hey, if you want it for video, why get an audio player? Get the PMP-120/140 (http://www.iriver.com/html/product/prpv_product.asp?pidx=45). :D

Besides, at least it's better than this (http://forums.windrivers.com/showthread.php?t=66086). :D
Title: More iPod problems
Post by: Deepblue on July 25, 2005, 12:25:12 pm
They do. iRivers tend to be very reliable and have most of the important peripherals you would have to buy for the iPod in-built.
Title: More iPod problems
Post by: Deepblue on August 04, 2005, 12:45:26 pm
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Originally posted by Sandwich
iRiver is more reliable AFAIK - they never had the mass battery death after 1.5 years like the iPods had. Unfortunately, I don't know of any iRiver HDD players with user removable batteries, though many of the flash players run on AA (or was it AAA?) batteries.


Sorry to bump an old topic, but the H10 5/6 GB players do have detachable battery packs. The 20 GB have theirs inbuilt. I find the H10 much better than the iPod in almost every way except the control mechanism. Nothing beats a circular touch pad.
Title: More iPod problems
Post by: Deepblue on August 04, 2005, 12:47:42 pm
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Originally posted by Windrunner


there is your problem why so many aren't buying iriver .

to damn expensive


Go on eBay. I got mine for $150. It is "refurbished* though, but all this means is that it doesn't come in the original retail packaging. However, the player looks and plays exactly like a new unit. It does have a warranty on it too.
Title: More iPod problems
Post by: Unknown Target on August 04, 2005, 02:46:49 pm
GUESS WHAT GUYS?! APPLE ROCKS! Not only are they offering to repair my ipod for $245, but they're going to send me a BRAND NEW model of the EXACT same type - even though a brand new color ipod only costs $45 more!

It gets better! Rather than doing that, I ordered a brand new HD instead - but it's going to a different place! So I won't get the HARD DRIVE for at least 3 weeks, and any music on my ipod for FOUR! YAY!

*sarcasm*
Title: More iPod problems
Post by: Deepblue on August 04, 2005, 03:18:09 pm
Get something that isn't an iPod.

The H10 has a ton of stuff that the iPod mini doesn't have:

-Drag and drop file transfer, or synchronizing with WMP 10.
-Awesome quality FM radio tuner built in.
-Voice recorder for those long lectures in class.
-Vivid color screen
-Capable of displaying photos.
-Can view .txt files for those notes you need to brush up on.
-Firmware upgradable. Problems are easily fixed with firmware updates, and you can even get user-created firmware.
-12 hour battery life (detachable!).
-Easy to get cheap on eBay 'cause everyone is obsessed with getting an iPod.