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Title: Favorite VP Tool GUI
Post by: WMCoolmon on July 26, 2005, 08:19:31 pm
Just curious... :)

Edit: Screenshots/descriptions

VPView - screenshot (http://www.descent-network.com/descman/vpview20/scrshots/vpview_promotion.jpg)
Directory structure to the left in tree view; preview pane in the lower left; files of the currently selected directory to the right in a detailed list view.

VPCS
Files/directories in a single large treeview. Modification operations performed via menu items.

VPMage - screenshot (http://fs2source.warpcore.org/screenshots/vpmage.png)
All currently loaded VP files in a list to the left; files/directories in a small treeview to the right; debugging/status output in the middle; modificiation operations performed via buttons below the treeview.

VPCS 2
Directories to the left in a tree view; files to the right in a detailed list view; modification operations performed via menu items.

QuickVP
Directories/files at the bottom in a detailed list view; buttons and menus above the list perform modification operations.
Title: Favorite VP Tool GUI
Post by: Taristin on July 26, 2005, 08:43:26 pm
VPView. It's what I'm so used to.
Title: Favorite VP Tool GUI
Post by: Kie99 on July 26, 2005, 08:56:02 pm
VPView, I've never tried anything else but I've never needed to.
Title: Favorite VP Tool GUI
Post by: Trivial Psychic on July 26, 2005, 09:07:02 pm
I use QuickVP for accessing TBP Base releases, but it has an annoying bug.  Sometimes when you try to view or extract some selected files, it tries to extract half the archive.
Title: Favorite VP Tool GUI
Post by: MatthewPapa on July 26, 2005, 09:11:25 pm
VPview undoubtably. Its both the easiest to use and the most effective. It would be nice if we could edit it like a zip archive though....
Title: Favorite VP Tool GUI
Post by: pyro-manic on July 26, 2005, 09:31:25 pm
I've never used anything other than VPView, as it does the job very well.
Title: Favorite VP Tool GUI
Post by: Solatar on July 26, 2005, 10:29:44 pm
I wasn't aware of the existance of a lot of these programs, VPView has always been good enough for me.
Title: Favorite VP Tool GUI
Post by: FireCrack on July 26, 2005, 11:23:53 pm
vpview, see abov reasons.
Title: Favorite VP Tool GUI
Post by: WeatherOp on July 26, 2005, 11:23:55 pm
VPView, works good, simple, and I wouldn't care to learn another.
Title: Favorite VP Tool GUI
Post by: Cobra on July 26, 2005, 11:37:45 pm
the latest VP view. it's teh roxxors! :D
Title: Favorite VP Tool GUI
Post by: karajorma on July 27, 2005, 02:43:39 am
VPView for viewing. VPCS for building.

 I like the idea of VPMage but quite frankly I could never figure out how to do anything with it.
Title: Favorite VP Tool GUI
Post by: Kazan on July 27, 2005, 01:13:52 pm
VPCS2 is in wxWidgets - if you want to take maintainership of it and make it more featurefull, change the GUI, and make sure it's linux compatable send me an email/pm and i'll give you access to my sourceforge CVS
Title: Favorite VP Tool GUI
Post by: aldo_14 on July 27, 2005, 01:25:22 pm
VPView I guess; although I'd be happy just using a command line tool to actually build the things - I'm not too bothered about a GUI for that.
Title: Favorite VP Tool GUI
Post by: Starman01 on July 27, 2005, 01:34:24 pm
VPIView

I never knew, that others even exist, so I used only that in all the years :lol:
Title: Favorite VP Tool GUI
Post by: Kosh on July 27, 2005, 02:10:54 pm
VP View for viewing, but for building I use Kazan's VP constructor. It's simple, easy to use, and effective.
Title: Favorite VP Tool GUI
Post by: Nuclear1 on July 27, 2005, 02:22:42 pm
VPView for reasons apparent in the name. VPCS for building VPs. VPMage seemed much harder to work with, IMO, so when I downloaded Kazan's tools, I was happy to find a VP constructor with it. :)
Title: Favorite VP Tool GUI
Post by: Kazan on July 27, 2005, 03:12:06 pm
there are much newer versions of my tools then the ones in the bundle - see http://www.sf.net/projects/alliance

[edit]

apparently i haven't code-rolled VPCS to there ever.. i'll do that tonight
Title: Favorite VP Tool GUI
Post by: Mongoose on July 27, 2005, 03:36:49 pm
I've never needed to build VPs, but I couldn't imagine anything else that organizes them as well as VPView does.
Title: Favorite VP Tool GUI
Post by: Kazan on July 27, 2005, 03:41:06 pm
VPCS2's interface is very very close to VPView's arrangement.. and it wasn't completed being fleshed out

IIRC it also supports vp2vp copy - i need to check if i finished that though
Title: Favorite VP Tool GUI
Post by: Nuke on July 28, 2005, 03:55:11 am
im quite fond of qvp myself. i perfer the winzip-esc interface. it has performance issues and some bugs but i figure why use 2 programs when theres one to do both jobs of viewing vps and making them. i rarely open vps anymore and instead perfer to create new data from scratch than use something from the vps. stuff like textures, i keep in my modding dir in bmp format for use in truespace. i rarely deal with vps so the bugs dont bother me much.
Title: Favorite VP Tool GUI
Post by: Rson on July 28, 2005, 05:44:10 am
There are other tools for viewing vp files that vpview?
Title: Favorite VP Tool GUI
Post by: karajorma on July 28, 2005, 06:20:28 am
The bottom 3 from WMC's post will all allow you to view as well as edit VP files IIRC.
Title: Favorite VP Tool GUI
Post by: Fury on September 07, 2005, 10:59:59 am
Bumping an old thread.

Someone really should write a simple single exe-file command line .vp file extration tool, similar to Kazan's VPMake. No fancy GUI, just extracts a vp file to given directory.

VPView 1.3: Requires dllpak, does not work on XP x64.
VPView 2.0 beta 5: Does not create directories, pain in the ass to extract a full vp directory by directory.
VPCS 2: Apparently only builds vp files, does not extract them.
VPMage: When I've used this tool, I've encountered some odd bugs. The GUI is not too good when compared to VPView for example.
QuickVP: Haven't tried it, apparently buggy too.

Forget GUIs, a simple command line tool is the most effective. Kazan's VPMake proved this quite well, VPMake is my favorite vp-file related tool for a reason. Now it needs a pair, for extraction.
Title: Favorite VP Tool GUI
Post by: Kazan on September 07, 2005, 11:39:05 am
Mr Fury: i can easily make an extractor :P

VPCS 2 can read files from another .vp and write them into your new one.
Title: Favorite VP Tool GUI
Post by: Fury on September 07, 2005, 12:12:36 pm
Please do, I really miss a single-exe extraction tool that keeps directory structure intact as well. Thank you!
Title: Favorite VP Tool GUI
Post by: MetalDestroyer on September 07, 2005, 02:01:39 pm
VP Mage and Quick VP for me, but i'm just interested into this VPview, where can i get it ?
Title: Favorite VP Tool GUI
Post by: taylor on September 07, 2005, 02:07:31 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Mr. Fury
Someone really should write a simple single exe-file command line .vp file extration tool, similar to Kazan's VPMake. No fancy GUI, just extracts a vp file to given directory.

There already is one, "cfileextractor" in CVS.  It's very simple, small, and has no real requirements, but I'll do up a Win32 exe of it this afternoon if you want.
Title: Favorite VP Tool GUI
Post by: WMCoolmon on September 07, 2005, 08:07:39 pm
http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,34109.0.html
Title: Favorite VP Tool GUI
Post by: Fury on September 07, 2005, 11:06:18 pm
taylor, first time I heard of that tool. Feel free to make a win32 build out of it. Has it been tested?
Title: Favorite VP Tool GUI
Post by: taylor on September 07, 2005, 11:45:06 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Mr. Fury
taylor, first time I heard of that tool. Feel free to make a win32 build out of it. Has it been tested?

There has never been a Windows binary made so probably only myself, WMCoolmon, and a couple of other Linux users actually know about it.  I use it anytime that I need to extract some VPs so it works pretty well.  Doesn't have many features, run it with "-x" to extract files into the current directory, "-l" (or no option) to list the files, and you can use "-L" to force all extracted files to get lowercase (when used with -x).  It doesn't do much else.

There is an archiver version too which Volition originally released with the source code.  I'll make a Win32 binary of that as well if you want a cmdline tool to make a VP.

Let me know if you have any problems with the extractor though...
Title: Favorite VP Tool GUI
Post by: Deepstar on September 08, 2005, 04:43:28 pm
I use VPview and VPCS (2?), i don't need another programm.
Title: Favorite VP Tool GUI
Post by: Fury on September 09, 2005, 10:29:01 am
Quote
Originally posted by taylor

There has never been a Windows binary made so probably only myself, WMCoolmon, and a couple of other Linux users actually know about it.  I use it anytime that I need to extract some VPs so it works pretty well.  Doesn't have many features, run it with "-x" to extract files into the current directory, "-l" (or no option) to list the files, and you can use "-L" to force all extracted files to get lowercase (when used with -x).  It doesn't do much else.

There is an archiver version too which Volition originally released with the source code.  I'll make a Win32 binary of that as well if you want a cmdline tool to make a VP.

Let me know if you have any problems with the extractor though...

Worked like a charm it seems. Only thing it's missing is the ability to give a full path to dir you want to extract a vp to.
Title: Favorite VP Tool GUI
Post by: taylor on September 09, 2005, 05:51:01 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Mr. Fury
Worked like a charm it seems. Only thing it's missing is the ability to give a full path to dir you want to extract a vp to.

It's not missing anymore. ;)

Not tested quite as well but it has worked ok for me so far.  Your full output path (counts output directory, "data" path from VP, and filename) has to be less than 255 characters so keep that in mind.  It should give an error to that fact if you go over.  Also, you can't specify a directory with spaces in it unless you enclose it in quotes.  If you don't it will likely just print the usage instructions and not tell you why.

It it causes any problems let me know.
Title: Favorite VP Tool GUI
Post by: Fury on September 10, 2005, 01:19:50 am
Not needing an extractor much these days but I will let you know if I find any problems.