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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Bobboau on August 06, 2001, 12:11:00 am
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There was a nice debate on religion and the origins of mankind on the VBB so I decided to rip it off.
In the beginning there was nothing, not time not nothing. Then there was the Big Bang; the start of time and space from which formed the heavens. Billions of years go by and the universe cools and stars and planets form. On one of these worlds is a pool of amino acids, a pool like many others on this world. With time this pool form from amino acids to proteins and DNA base pairs, given more time the DNA forms into various random configuration as they do throughout this world. After millions of years of chaos a pattern is formed, one which allows itself to replicate and use and make proteins, with replication comes evolution and from there life has this world. Over time life makes itself over and over again, though it does this imperfectly such that with each generation there is change, not change in any direction but only those that are an improvement live to replicate itself again. With the many billions of years the cells perfect themselves into extreme complexity, some find new ways of using the toxic oxygen generated by the other cells of this time which use sunlight and carbon dioxide to live. Then one day a group of cells form together like they have for billions of years but on this day they do it out of genetics not chance, with time some cells become specialized due to there position in there group and so begins the formation of complex life. Then suddenly there is an explosion of new life, creatures living in a sea the first of their kind. Made of many living cells they are each more than that sum. Worms, trilobites, monsters of a world long dead, they lived and were fruitful, and each generation was different. With time they developed into fish and reptiles and mammals and after billions of years, out of a pool of unliving acid and protein has come a life, that has determined itself better than all that is and has come before, it looks to the future secure in it's belief but it will seal it's own fait in it's inability to resolve its past and it's present.
Basically this is a place for creationists and evolutionists to fight out stuff they'll never be able to convince each other of.
discus
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Why another one of these? One wasn't enough eh?
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i think it better if this topic was left alone/ownt. people are gonna get nasty.
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there are people here that don't go to the VBB anymore
ok what if I just link to it
http://vbb.volition-inc.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/015073.html ("http://vbb.volition-inc.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/015073.html")
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Originally posted by Joey_21:
One wasn't enough eh?
OH NO not another religious debate (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/eek.gif) One was more than enough.
Religion is a dictatorial attempt to govern peoples' lives by attempting to explain all the great questions of the universe. The fact is that if nobody had came up with the theory of a god who is omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent until this day the idea would be laughed out of town and rightly so. It can never be proven or disproved but until there is at least a shred of credible evidence to support it there is no reason why anyone should believe it.
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I think this is not the place to discuss topics related to religion. Some one may accidentally or unintentionally spark a flame war here. This thread is for FreeSpace and other things that may be OT but not religion.
Discuss about something else, people.
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Religion is a dictatorial attempt to govern peoples' lives by attempting to explain all the great questions of the universe. The fact is that if nobody had came up with the theory of a god who is omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent until this day the idea would be laughed out of town and rightly so. It can never be proven or disproved but until there is at least a shred of credible evidence to support it there is no reason why anyone should believe it.
Credible evidence?!?
The entire universe and everything in it was put in motion twelve minutes ago.
God, realising that mankind would endeavour to understand as much as possible placed "history" in everyones heads to give the illusion that the universe and everything going on around us right now had started eons ago.
Disprove this.
BTW to say that religion is a farce is the same as saying God is a farce which could possibly be one of the worst possible things that anyone can say to a person like me.
Since I know God exists you are basically saying that I am wrong but you'll never be able to tell me why I'm wrong because the only thing you can fall back on is "lack of evidence".
[This message has been edited by Maeglamor (edited 08-06-2001).]
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I believe that some validation as to why this topic was closed was neccessary. I believe it was based on several reasons, not just one.
- As was stated above, this is not a public board, and while we are all friends here, discussing anything and everything doesn't fly. This IS a Freespace forum, and we need to keep it that way.
- The topic was NOT closed on the basis that the thread spoke of religion, and we at HLP do not promote nor demote religion in any shape or form. Religion tends to be a touchy subject, so while it may SEEM as though it was owned based on its topic, it wasn't, moreso because it was SO off-topic.
- The way Bobboau presented his topic in the first place was in error. There is NO need whatsoever to use such blatent words, obviously intended to start a battle. When I read it, it sounded like "Here it is, you all are idiots, prove me wrong, lets fight about it!" Now, that may be a bit harsh, but I think you get the point.
Basically guys, a couple rules of thumb here on the HLPBB. Keep it on topic. We've got enough spam already, and I refuse to see us become the VBB. The moderators there have given up, and it's chaos. I assure you that won't happen here. Secondly, don't start topics on or off topic that are DESTINED to become flame wars. Theres no need for that. Let's just play within the proper boundries ok? Respect each other, and others will respect you.
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[This message has been edited by Black Ace (edited 08-06-2001).]