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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Deepblue on July 29, 2005, 02:12:29 pm
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Leaked images from a Spanish showing for the Xbox 360 revealed something quite intriguing... A listing under game engines...
Check out this picture:
(Anyone speak Spanish?)
(http://tinypic.com/9ksbhl.jpg)
And might as well post the others:
(http://tinypic.com/9ks9xe.jpg)
(http://tinypic.com/9ks9yr.jpg)
(http://tinypic.com/9ksb9i.jpg)
(that's one very funky looking typing set-up and camera...)
(http://tinypic.com/9ksbao.jpg)
The person who leaked the images also says that the spanish chief
said "you will be pleasantly surprised" about the price and that
there's also something really big coming for x'05.
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Wow, this is coming in fast. A new batch of leaks (Microsoft needs to call the plumber...):
(http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/2168/x208rc.jpg)
Wireless networking between units... Connectivity with the PSP (lol!)... Digital Cameras... and MP3 players...
(http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/2222/x233xg.jpg)
(http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/2438/x293qh.jpg)
(http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/3210/x331po.jpg)
(http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/6628/x344ys.jpg)
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much better specs, i see.
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This forum is really dead at this time of day...
*bored of summer...almost*
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Originally posted by Deepblue
*bored of summer...almost*
Don't say such things! :eek:
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Oh give it a bloody rest with the PR, eh? We can all look up Bluesnews (etc) too, y'know.
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I didn't realize it was in the news yet. Heh.
EDIT: It's not yet... This was on the Gamespot forums, not a news site.
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Only 512mb of RAM? At the very least I would have given it a gig.
The problem is too many people making textures for games have them very low-resolution, and when upscaled for PC they're only maybe twice the res they were on the X-Box. The end result being generally crummy textures on both platforms.
*sigh*
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Screw Microsoft and it's XBOX systems. The only game I want that is on XBOX is Halo 2. Every other game I want that is on XBOX is on PS2, PC, or both. I'm not about to blow 200 dollars for an XBOX and 1 game. I think I'll just wait for a decent emulator.
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Originally posted by Triple Ace
Screw Microsoft and it's XBOX systems. The only game I want that is on XBOX is Halo 2. Every other game I want that is on XBOX is on PS2, PC, or both. I'm not about to blow 200 dollars for an XBOX and 1 game. I think I'll just wait for a decent emulator.
Won't happen for a long time. What required to emulate the xbox is alot of CPU power.
actually I just googled and people have made alot more progress then when I last looked up the subject.
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In theory, all you really need to emulate an Xbox is an nForce/nForce2-based Windows PC. Due to encryption and lockouts on the Xbox BIOS in particular though, it's likely to be a lot more difficult. Being x86-based you certainly don't have to go to the same lengths other console emulators do in order to emulate it.
Originally posted by Ace
Only 512mb of RAM? At the very least I would have given it a gig.
It's a console, not a PC. It doesn't need an outrageous amount of RAM because it doesn't have the same overheads that a PC does. Look at the PS2, that only had about 32MB of RAM and still managed to host some damn decent games.
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Although the PS2 IIRC has some stupidly large amount of bus bandwidth. But it still suffers from the lowest res textures of any console.
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BTW, that screen lists Half-Life 2, not 3.
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Originally posted by Admiral LSD
It's a console, not a PC. It doesn't need an outrageous amount of RAM because it doesn't have the same overheads that a PC does. Look at the PS2, that only had about 32MB of RAM and still managed to host some damn decent games.
and those would be the OS and all the little proggies that it needs to run proplerly that are in the background.. 512 of ram is a rather indecent amount to be putting into a console, i can't wait to see (with my own eyes, not some screenshot that for we could know, be a render) what all of the latest consoles can do.
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Originally posted by Triple Ace
Screw Microsoft and it's XBOX systems. The only game I want that is on XBOX is Halo 2. Every other game I want that is on XBOX is on PS2, PC, or both. I'm not about to blow 200 dollars for an XBOX and 1 game. I think I'll just wait for a decent emulator.
are you poor or are your xboxes like really expensive because i paid 120euros for an xbox and two controllers and a game and it was a new game and it's the crystal xbox i mean geeeez
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In theory, all you really need to emulate an Xbox is an nForce/nForce2-based Windows PC. Due to encryption and lockouts on the Xbox BIOS in particular though, it's likely to be a lot more difficult. Being x86-based you certainly don't have to go to the same lengths other console emulators do in order to emulate it.
You don't even need an nForce based PC. Most modern PCs could probably handle it. The specs of the original XBox were pretty pathetic, my 2 year old laptop could run rings arout it. Plus the original XBox used the Windows 2k kernal. It REALLY shouldn't be THAT hard to emulate it.
Bypassing the encryption and lockouts can be done. Just look at all the copy pretections schemes that have been cracked.
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Originally posted by Sandwich
BTW, that screen lists Half-Life 2, not 3.
Not true... Someone zoomed in to prove it 'cause this was a point of a lot of debate...
(http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/8229/itsa36ai.jpg)
See!!! It IS a 3.
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Originally posted by Turnsky
and those would be the OS and all the little proggies that it needs to run proplerly that are in the background.. 512 of ram is a rather indecent amount to be putting into a console, i can't wait to see (with my own eyes, not some screenshot that for we could know, be a render) what all of the latest consoles can do.
Try this (http://files.filefront.com/GoW_Video/;3977763;;/fileinfo.html) on for size.
It's footage of Gears of War.
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[color=66ff00]They could be simply referring to HL:Aftermath and just giving it a name that will spark more interest.
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It seems like One Rat Life 3 for me :V
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Originally posted by Maeglamor
[color=66ff00]They could be simply referring to HL:Aftermath and just giving it a name that will spark more interest.
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This is a listing under engines. And won't Aftermath use the same engine as Half-Life 2?
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Oh please. It's a "2". Note how the bottom part is much thicker than the top. That wouldn't be the case if it was a "3", since all lines are equidistant from each other. But in the "2", you have the foot and the curve close to each other in the bottom left.
Trust me, it's a 2.
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Looks like a 5 to me :nervous:
BTW, I see NCSoft, does this mean we might expect some MMOs on the XBox?
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Originally posted by Fragrag
Looks like a 5 to me :nervous:
BTW, I see NCSoft, does this mean we might expect some MMOs on the XBox?
oh god no please why did you ruin my evening
i can't erase the picture from my head, every single XBox player killing squirrels for levels
argh
bring me the spoon, i have to gauge my eyes out of their sockets because of you :(
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Originally posted by Sandwich
Oh please. It's a "2". Note how the bottom part is much thicker than the top. That wouldn't be the case if it was a "3", since all lines are equidistant from each other. But in the "2", you have the foot and the curve close to each other in the bottom left.
Trust me, it's a 2.
Sorry, but I don't believe so. Otherwise that is one funky looking 2.
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Does it really matter? I'm sure they're going to make a Half Life 3 - but after HL2 I'm going to be a lot less optimistic than I was the first time they announed a sequel.
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Looks like a 3 to me.
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The engine is technically called 'Source', anyways; plus Valve had already said they'd build HL3 on Source (to state it wouldn't take as long as 2). I would expect the Source engine itself to be ported to the next gen consoles, though; it's economical sense to do so.
Bear in mind you can't tell the number anyways, because it's a compressed JPG. Because JPG matches, IIRC, regions in the image to a table of set pixel patterns when compressing (not to mention any noise data in the image before compression), you probably won't get a reliable image from scaled up images; just look at how indistinct the letters in 'Half life' are, for example.
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Too bad the guy who took the picture didn't care to notice, I guess.
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[color=66ff00]Yeah, Source is the engine. I don't see why they would name HL3 under engines unless they were trying to get some attention from people who were not aware that the game and engine were not the same thing i.e. the press.
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Originally posted by Janos
are you poor or are your xboxes like really expensive because i paid 120euros for an xbox and two controllers and a game and it was a new game and it's the crystal xbox i mean geeeez
Like I said, I don't want an XBOX JUST for 1 game.
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Originally posted by WMCoolmon
Looks like a 3 to me.