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Modding, Mission Design, and Coding => The Modding Workshop => Topic started by: Roanoke on August 01, 2005, 09:36:21 am
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(http://premium1.uploadit.org/magatsu1//ship.JPG)
Haven't done a ship in ages....
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A very high speed, atmosphere capable Interceptor.:D
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My first thought was 'spacetaxi'.......
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Doesn't look very "Freespacey" to me.
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The engines look they'd break off the first time the pilot hit the afterburners (if they lasted that long) I like the fuselage design though it could be a cool interceptor. the wings need to be integrated into the hull better though (imho)
@ weathop how could those wings make it atmosphere capabale?
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Anything is atmospheric capable as long as you push (with a rocket/engine) hard enough.
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Anything is atmospheric capable as long as you push (with a rocket/engine) hard enough.
My sig. 2nd quote.:D
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Originally posted by brugger
The engines look they'd break off the first time the pilot hit the afterburners (if they lasted that long) I like the fuselage design though it could be a cool interceptor. the wings need to be integrated into the hull better though (imho)
@ weathop how could those wings make it atmosphere capabale?
Maybe he's deriving it from the apparent intages on the engines, which look like classic turbojet ones (or whatever the correct term is for an atmospheric jet/rocket engine - scramjet?)
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They're not wings btw. They're, um, round, shell guard things. Hell I dunno, but not wings.
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"aerodynamic manifolds"
Howzat?
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I know if you put a rocket on somthing it will fly, but if you want a fighter it needs to be controllable, and for that to happen it needs something that creates lift and control surfaces to alter the lift providing manueverability. Which those curved things would not do. Now, as a space fighter they could act as protective sheilding for vital subsystems (engine, weapons, etc.)
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maybe they aren't jets/rockets but uber missile pods of d00m!
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Originally posted by brugger
I know if you put a rocket on somthing it will fly, but if you want a fighter it needs to be controllable, and for that to happen it needs something that creates lift and control surfaces to alter the lift providing manueverability. Which those curved things would not do. Now, as a space fighter they could act as protective sheilding for vital subsystems (engine, weapons, etc.)
Antigrav is used for lift & maneuvering. After all, we've seen the fat arse Satis(IIRC) flying in atmoshpere in the vprime animation.
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Anti grav could be used but that would require massive amounts of energy. The Satis is designed as a space freighter first even if it can fly in the atmosphere. If somthing was designed to move between space and atmosphere on a regular basis it would use wings and control surfaces just to save energy. it would also be nice to have the wings in case of some sort of power loss at least you'd have chance to glide to the surface, the Satis would fall like a rock
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"Anti grav could be used but that would require massive amounts of energy."
yeah, I guess your right, all the anti-grav technology I've used in my day to day life has been extreemly power hungery.
useing gravity drives you wouldn't have to worry about harm from G-forces on the pilot, and you could probly do some insainly tight turns.
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Seriously? My first Impresion was Hercules Meets Gunstar...
Please someone make a nice GUNSTAR!!!
Cute design though...
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I don't claim to be an expert, but what little i've seen of current anti grav technology so far is that it requires either a very powerful electromagnet or a rotating superconductor to reduce an objects mass, either of these methods use a lot of energy, I'm sure that in 300 years they will figured out a more efficient means of anti grav but overcoming somthing as powerful as gravity can't be easy
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Reducing mass? That's where fission reactions come in, not antigrav.
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fission is splitting matter, some of the matter is turned into energy and some is turned into other forms of matter. So this could be described as reducing mass, but anit gravity (which is a misleading term becasue so far there isn't any proof that there is antigravity like there is anti matter) attempts to this point have been centered around reducing an objects mass to 0 without destroying it. So don't think of it as taking matter away, just creating a force that changes how gravity effects the object.
If someone with more knowledge on the subject of current anti grav tech can prove what i'm saying wrong please do so, everything that i'm saying comes from somthing I read several years ago (i don't even remember the study name or the journal it was in)
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I'll go with some kind of non-military ship.
A racing vessel, or maybe a courier ship, or just a really rich person-ship. :p
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Looks like a super - high - speed bomber
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I like the idea of it being a super-capship heavy bomber. Higher speed, slightly more maneuverable than the typical heavy bomber but light on general offensive capabilities. Rather than engines those could be two large, fixed, beam turrets. Only two primary gun turrets with only a couple of supported primary weapons and it can't carry bombs or any type of tracking missiles (heat seeking and dumbfire only).
It wouldn't do much against fighters but a wing of these things would be great against Shivan juggernauts. With the way that FS2 ended I would think that command would be looking for better ways of combating Sathanas class ships than just relying on the Colossus. That is if this were actually intended for FS2 universe missions anyway.
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My first impression is something out of star wars.........
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Originally posted by taylor
Rather than engines those could be two large, fixed, beam turrets. Only two primary gun turrets with only a couple of supported primary weapons and it can't carry bombs or any type of tracking missiles (heat seeking and dumbfire only).
That's a very interesting idea.
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Originally posted by brugger
I know if you put a rocket on somthing it will fly, but if you want a fighter it needs to be controllable, and for that to happen it needs something that creates lift and control surfaces to alter the lift providing manueverability. Which those curved things would not do. Now, as a space fighter they could act as protective sheilding for vital subsystems (engine, weapons, etc.)
Hence the wings and fins on my Icarus/Star Rider/Trogen Transport...;)
On the ship itself... like others said, the shells and engines/missile pods/freaking-huge-gun-things look very fragile. ATM, one good knock and the whole lot would snap clean off.
Great way to get someone off your tail though, except you only have two shots at it....
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IIRC there's a post on the old FS mailing list by Adam Pletcher saying they have anti-gravity in the FS universe.