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Title: First Longhorn Virus!
Post by: redmenace on August 04, 2005, 11:58:12 pm
http://www.tomshardware.com/hardnews/20050804_155825.html

Sheesh! It is just now gone private beta!
Title: First Longhorn Virus!
Post by: Descenterace on August 05, 2005, 12:03:28 am
Exactly. The point of Beta versions is to weed out loopholes like this.

Good thing it turned up now and not after release, isn't it?
Title: First Longhorn Virus!
Post by: redmenace on August 05, 2005, 12:07:58 am
yes, but I found it amazing that already they are trying to **** up computers.
Title: First Longhorn Virus!
Post by: Admiral LSD on August 05, 2005, 01:39:00 am
It's hardly surprising. MS software is well-known to contain all manner of nasties and even if it didn't, there'd still be teams of people actively trying to find and exploit potential holes simply because of their high public profile. Linux and Mac advocates proudly list "resistance to viruses" among the reasons why we should all flock in their directions but the truth is, there are just as many potential flaws there as there are on the MS side of the fence (if not more). The only reason they don't get as much press is that no-one really cares to look for them simply because neither have the glory attached to it that finding yet another MS bug does. You can bet dollars to doughnuts that, whenever Linux develops serious market share, the same thing will start happening there too.
Title: First Longhorn Virus!
Post by: Kamikaze on August 05, 2005, 03:37:33 am
Not really. Linux users don't run as Administrator.

BTW: Apparently these are simply monad shell scripts. Nothing amazing. It doesn't actually exploit the monad software.
Title: First Longhorn Virus!
Post by: Fury on August 05, 2005, 03:38:38 am
Neither do all Windows users. It's about competence of the user.
Title: First Longhorn Virus!
Post by: Kamikaze on August 05, 2005, 03:42:05 am
That's really not the point. Many applications on Windows don't work well without Administrator priveledges or assume that it's there. It's a developer attitude issue. I guess I should've said "Linux users don't have to run as Administrator".
Title: First Longhorn Virus!
Post by: Fury on August 05, 2005, 03:49:39 am
That's where "run as" comes in. Although I have to agree, it's inconvenient. Luckily Longhorn is supposed to eventually bring a lot of improvement in this area.
Title: First Longhorn Virus!
Post by: aldo_14 on August 05, 2005, 04:18:21 am
I'm not sure it'll go about it the right way.  I think it's becoming more of an issue of denying than facilitating access (I think pure sockets is an example) for applications.... to me an OS, if it has to implement security, shouldn't do so by denying facilities.
Title: First Longhorn Virus!
Post by: ChronoReverse on August 05, 2005, 09:40:08 am
Well, taking a look at the features slated for Vista, you'll see that it has an improved Reduced Privilege Account, one that supposedly works unlike Windows XP's useless one.


They're also moving to get rid of the registry and will implement a "virtual registry", which can be on a per account basis, to support legacy programs.


In any case, they're trying =P


As for these "viruses", they're just shell scripts.  I wouldn't be surprised by a Vista virus but these really aren't viruses.