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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Ulala on August 16, 2005, 01:11:52 am

Title: Let's see your desk! Mk.2k5
Post by: Ulala on August 16, 2005, 01:11:52 am
So, I just got my new laptop, and my room/desk cleaned! In honor of the occasion, I have decided to grace you all with a picture of said 1337ness. That said, why not everyone show off their desk spaces? Here goes... (http://server2.uploadit.org/files/Ulala321-PICT0058.JPG)

Let's see your worst (or best)!

[edit] Perfectionism took over and I had to take another one that was actually in focus. ;)  [/edit]
Title: Let's see your desk! Mk.2k5
Post by: Kosh on August 16, 2005, 01:47:31 am
Here are a couple pics of mine.

(http://web.engr.oregonstate.edu/~plankerj/P2210028.JPG)

(http://web.engr.oregonstate.edu/~plankerj/P1130014.JPG)

The one on top was taken about 10 minutes ago. My desk is kind of messy, but it isn't the complete disaster area Sandwich's is. :D
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Post by: Descenterace on August 16, 2005, 01:49:25 am


That's the best quality my camera is capable of. It has no flash, noise reduction, or resolution above 640x480...

The monitors are 19" and 17" TFTs left to right. The unit on the floor contains the spec in my sig (which will be hopelessly inaccurate in a month or two, I hope). The mouse is a Logitech MX-1000. The can next to it has a 'Whoopass Cannery' label on it.
Title: Let's see your desk! Mk.2k5
Post by: Kosh on August 16, 2005, 01:57:02 am
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That's the best quality my camera is capable of. It has no flash, noise reduction, or resolution above 640x480...


Man that sucks. How old is it?
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Post by: Turnsky on August 16, 2005, 02:45:24 am
i'd post mine if i could see it under the mess. :p
Title: Let's see your desk! Mk.2k5
Post by: CP5670 on August 16, 2005, 02:52:47 am
Let's see here...

This is my main computer. The monitor came all glared out because of the flash. The shelves are messy, but the desk is pretty tidy.

(http://home.comcast.net/~cp5670/image1.JPG)

(http://home.comcast.net/~cp5670/image2.JPG)

This is my backup machine, which I also use for playing old games. At the moment I actually have my old mac connected to the monitor, which is in the back and can't be seen here. The desk (or dining table, actually) is not quite as clean as the one above.

(http://home.comcast.net/~cp5670/image3.JPG)

The laptop sits here in my room, when it's at home.

(http://home.comcast.net/~cp5670/image4.JPG)
Title: Let's see your desk! Mk.2k5
Post by: SadisticSid on August 16, 2005, 04:22:17 am
Here's mine:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v36/SadisticSid/Picture002.jpg)

and a shot of my new precioussssss (soon to replace my desktop unit)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v36/SadisticSid/Picture004.jpg)
Title: Let's see your desk! Mk.2k5
Post by: Fineus on August 16, 2005, 04:32:06 am
Levelshot tags added to pretty much everyones posts. Get it right guys ;)

Anyways.. here's mine.

(http://www.zen8740.zen.co.uk/pics/desktop.jpg)

Going clockwise from the top left corner of the image we have my bedroom window and dreamcatcher, television, camera, speakers and stereo, computer with joystick, phone and PS2 pad, random draw of crap, dying footstool, keyboard mouse and speakers, remote controls and wallet, LCD display and tweeter speakers.

Sorry the picture isn't so good. I've only just woken up and can't be bothered to try hard with it ;)
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Post by: Ransom on August 16, 2005, 04:49:23 am
(http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/7897/deskestop4od.jpg)

You neat people scare me.
Title: Let's see your desk! Mk.2k5
Post by: Grug on August 16, 2005, 04:53:22 am
I might make a note to people posting here:

Be carefull of the images you post if you would feel upset about your name being on the internet. There are a few there where a name can be made out on a piece of paper or book in there. ;)


Cool setup though guys. :yes:
I'm saddened by the fact that near everyone has an LCD screen now days and I don't. :(

Hopefully soon though... :D
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Post by: Col. Fishguts on August 16, 2005, 06:59:41 am
Gaze upon my desk in its FS-mode ;)

(http://n.ethz.ch/student/ebuerli/download/desk.jpg)
Title: Let's see your desk! Mk.2k5
Post by: Nuke on August 16, 2005, 08:47:52 am
(http://www.game-warden.com/nukemod-cos/Images/desk.jpg)

[/obnoxiously large photo]
[color=66ff00][/obnoxiously lvlshotted][/color]
Title: Let's see your desk! Mk.2k5
Post by: Martinus on August 16, 2005, 09:03:42 am
[color=66ff00][observation]I just realised that you're left handed Kal.[/observation]

sinister :D
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Title: Let's see your desk! Mk.2k5
Post by: Nuke on August 16, 2005, 09:11:50 am
or, perhaps she flipped the pic to throw you off :D
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Post by: aldo_14 on August 16, 2005, 09:15:56 am
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Title: Let's see your desk! Mk.2k5
Post by: Nuke on August 16, 2005, 09:19:02 am
horrid, horrid, prefab, build it yourself furnature. least my coffie table is made out of real wood :D
Title: Let's see your desk! Mk.2k5
Post by: aldo_14 on August 16, 2005, 09:26:09 am
And how much did it cost you?
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Post by: Nuke on August 16, 2005, 09:27:19 am
$15, but its an antique, vintage 1978 :D
Title: Let's see your desk! Mk.2k5
Post by: aldo_14 on August 16, 2005, 09:31:03 am
Aye, well you can't really compare 27 year old tables to conputer desks then, can you?

Anyways, i build that thing myself.  From Ikea.  And it doesn't wobble much.  Well, except if you touch it or type too hard.  Or breathe quickly upon it.
Title: Let's see your desk! Mk.2k5
Post by: EtherShock on August 16, 2005, 09:39:27 am
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Originally posted by Turnsky
i'd post mine if i could see it under the mess. :p
Title: Let's see your desk! Mk.2k5
Post by: Fineus on August 16, 2005, 10:03:22 am
Quote
Originally posted by Nuke
or, perhaps she flipped the pic to throw you off :D



...she? :wtf:
Title: Let's see your desk! Mk.2k5
Post by: Fury on August 16, 2005, 10:21:33 am
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Originally posted by Kalfireth



...she? :wtf:

:ha: :drevil:
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Post by: Slasher on August 16, 2005, 10:23:40 am
Apparently Nuke knows something we don't.
Title: Let's see your desk! Mk.2k5
Post by: CP5670 on August 16, 2005, 10:39:27 am
[q]Levelshot tags added to pretty much everyones posts. Get it right guys[/q]

lvlshot...that was it! I couldn't remember for the life of me what that tag for automatically resizing images was, even though I knew of its existence and was around when it was added into the forums. I guess I have been away from this place too long...

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Be carefull of the images you post if you would feel upset about your name being on the internet. There are a few there where a name can be made out on a piece of paper or book in there.


yeah, I noticed after I uploaded the images and didn't want to go through all the trouble of blotting it out at that point. I think quite a few people here know my real name anyway from emails they have sent me. :p Thanks for pointing that out though.

[q]Cool setup though guys.
I'm saddened by the fact that near everyone has an LCD screen now days and I don't.
[/q]

I bet the monitor on my main machine is better than any LCD out there that is under $3000. :D
Title: Let's see your desk! Mk.2k5
Post by: Sandwich on August 16, 2005, 10:42:57 am
Unlike my desk at home (which is far tidier now, Kosh... :p), my workplace is nearly immaculate.
Title: Let's see your desk! Mk.2k5
Post by: CP5670 on August 16, 2005, 10:50:17 am
I like the use of that motherboard box to prop up the speaker. :yes:
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Post by: aldo_14 on August 16, 2005, 10:51:48 am
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Originally posted by Sandwich
Unlike my desk at home (which is far tidier now, Kosh... :p), my workplace is nearly immaculate.


Antec Sonata case?
Title: Let's see your desk! Mk.2k5
Post by: Ulala on August 16, 2005, 11:42:05 am
Nice deskspaces guys! I'll see if I can't scrounge up a picture of my work desk to compete with Sandwich. :D
Title: Let's see your desk! Mk.2k5
Post by: Kosh on August 16, 2005, 11:49:12 am
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Originally posted by aldo_14


Antec Sonata case?



Whatever it is it looks nice. Mine is a cheap Supercase. Not nearly as asthetically pleasing but it gets the job done.
Title: Let's see your desk! Mk.2k5
Post by: Sandwich on August 16, 2005, 11:51:01 am
Quote
Originally posted by CP5670
I like the use of that motherboard box to prop up the speaker. :yes:


Must have equal-height stereo, or I'd get a crick in my ears! :p

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Originally posted by aldo_14


Antec Sonata case?


Antec Piano Black... dunno if that's a different one or a subset. The thing's the quietest thing I've ever barely heard - about as lound as a hard drive spinning. :D
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Post by: aldo_14 on August 16, 2005, 12:06:22 pm
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Originally posted by Sandwich


Antec Piano Black... dunno if that's a different one or a subset. The thing's the quietest thing I've ever barely heard - about as lound as a hard drive spinning. :D


Sonata is the one I have; other than a light you seem to have on the top right, it would appear to be identical to that one. It's suppossedly the quietest (Sonata) there is, but I'm not sure that's true for my one.  Noisy gfx card fan, I think.

Very nice cases, anyways.
Title: Let's see your desk! Mk.2k5
Post by: Martinus on August 16, 2005, 12:18:26 pm
[color=66ff00]BTW Happy birthday Ulala. Stop posting and go party. ;)

Well that or just play on your lappy. Nice present BTW. :nod::yes:
[/color]
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Post by: Descenterace on August 16, 2005, 12:26:12 pm
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Originally posted by Kosh

Man that sucks. How old is it?


Four months. It's one of those Zippo-sized 007 cameras on thinkgeek.com (I peeled off the 007 sticker coz it's ridiculous) which I bought for its small size. It records sound, video, and recon pics (taken at regular intervals).

Quote
Originally posted by Ransom Arceihn

You neat people scare me.


You should see my floor. I've got more spare computer kit than I know what to do with, having bought £350 worth of second- and third-hand components a week or two ago. Got some customers lined up, so I should be able to shift it with a 10% profit margin.
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Post by: Darkage on August 16, 2005, 02:06:06 pm
Finaly cleaned my desk abit:)

And i still preffer CRT over TFT/LCD screens.:) but thats just my personel preferens:)


(http://www.friendship7.co.uk/gallery/files/5/8/desk4_original.jpg)


(http://www.friendship7.co.uk/gallery/files/5/8/desk3_original.jpg)


(http://www.friendship7.co.uk/gallery/files/5/8/desk2_original.jpg)


(http://www.friendship7.co.uk/gallery/files/5/8/Desk1_original.jpg)


Greets Darkage
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Post by: Sandwich on August 16, 2005, 02:18:38 pm
Quote
Originally posted by aldo_14


Sonata is the one I have; other than a light you seem to have on the top right, it would appear to be identical to that one. It's suppossedly the quietest (Sonata) there is, but I'm not sure that's true for my one.  Noisy gfx card fan, I think.

Very nice cases, anyways.


That light is a reflection of the LCD on the gloss black side. :p I think they're the same.
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Post by: aldo_14 on August 16, 2005, 02:21:17 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Sandwich


That light is a reflection of the LCD on the gloss black side. :p I think they're the same.


Aye.

http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardware/sonata.ars

I think the full name is Sonata Piano Black or similar.
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Post by: Fineus on August 16, 2005, 02:21:45 pm
Darkage wins. Man, you have a very nice setup there.

Oh, on the subject of keeping things clean - I used to be untidy but then I suddenly realised I couldn't find half of what I needed. Spending 5 minutes keeping things tidy makes things so much easier all around.
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Post by: Darkage on August 16, 2005, 02:26:07 pm
Thanks Thunder:D

Your Desk does look more "Clean" and thight though. But with a few comps that cannot be achieved very good:)

I do have some special love for my little Unix box, running Solaris 10 64bit. And this pc's secondary drive has also Solaris 10 but the x86 version works very nice, i do my administration with it. More stable and Secure then windows will ever be.
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Post by: Sandwich on August 16, 2005, 02:36:19 pm
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Originally posted by aldo_14


Aye.

http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardware/sonata.ars

I think the full name is Sonata Piano Black or similar.


That's it. Man, it's a great case... I'm tempted to switch to it at home, too, even though my home case isn't more than a year old. :p
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Post by: pyro-manic on August 16, 2005, 02:41:12 pm
I need a new desk. This one is waaay too small...

(http://img330.imageshack.us/img330/4319/desk12qw.jpg)

But then, a bigger desk would mean I'd have to sit on the end of the bed to use the 'puter...
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Post by: Martinus on August 16, 2005, 02:41:50 pm
[color=66ff00]Samsung a800 Darkage?
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Title: Let's see your desk! Mk.2k5
Post by: Darkage on August 16, 2005, 02:47:31 pm
The screen is from Sun Microsystems as wel as the unix box, the unix box is a Ultra5 machine, and the screen is a GDM-5010pt, in short it's a Sony screen:)
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Post by: Martinus on August 16, 2005, 02:48:22 pm
[color=66ff00]I'm talking about the phone. ;)

You have a Chieftec Dragon case? I have a purple one. It's rather excellent but would kill you lifting it.
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Post by: Darkage on August 16, 2005, 02:54:58 pm
lol...oops i didn't notice i had the phone there:D

I can't remember the phon'es type lol.

Yup chieftec Dragon case, did alsmot fell from the stairs when i lifted the box was prety damn big.

Although what i love about my monitor is that it has 2 channels, 1x HD15 and 1x 13W3 i use both and can switch by just a simple button, saves space for a second monitor wich is rather nice since i am running out of desk space:)
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Post by: Nuke on August 16, 2005, 05:57:42 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Slasher
Apparently Nuke knows something we don't.


take a look at that room and tell me its not girlie, the purse on the wall and the decor. is it not obvious?

oh and couch potato computing is the way to go, its sad im the only practitioner here. my place would be neater if i didnt live with a schizophrenic.
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Post by: aldo_14 on August 16, 2005, 05:59:30 pm
I dunno....

Kalthuderith, are you a Southener?

:nervous:
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Post by: CP5670 on August 16, 2005, 06:15:25 pm
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Although what i love about my monitor is that it has 2 channels, 1x HD15 and 1x 13W3 i use both and can switch by just a simple button, saves space for a second monitor wich is rather nice since i am running out of desk space


I think most of the better CRTs have that feature. Mine also supports dual input, although both channels are 15 pin D-Subs. The problem is that it's the other, older, monitor on which dual input would really be useful to me (and it doesn't do this), since I use that one for both the computer in the picture and the mac behind it, while the monitor that can do dual input is only connected to one computer. :p
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Post by: aldo_14 on August 16, 2005, 06:17:21 pm
My TV can take a PC, Scart and co-ax input.  I love my TV.
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Post by: Cobra on August 16, 2005, 06:22:49 pm
urgh, i am envoius of the people with good comps.

tidy desk!

(http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/4457/photo0014sy.jpg)
(http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/172/photo0026sg.jpg)

alas, i only have an el cheapo camera that's subject to blur effects very easily. :(
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Post by: Martinus on August 16, 2005, 06:25:25 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Nuke
my place would be neater if i didnt live with a schizophrenic.

[color=66ff00]Yourself?

5 out of 3 schizophrenics find it hard to live with themselves.
[/color]
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Post by: Nuke on August 16, 2005, 06:47:53 pm
Quote
Originally posted by aldo_14
My TV can take a PC, Scart and co-ax input.  I love my TV.


yea i usually enable tv out when i play flight sims and sometimes freespace. its also good for hi-end games like doom 3 that you need to run in lower reses, like doom 3. the new machine runs it at about 80fps on my monitor with a maxed resolution. sence the tv is more fixed i usually jack the aa settings to hell.

Quote
Originally posted by Maeglamor

[color=66ff00]Yourself?

5 out of 3 schizophrenics find it hard to live with themselves.
[/color]


hey, its possible. im at the age where schizophrenia usually sets in. and im seemingly always in a dazed state, even though ive greatly reduced my chemical intake. manic depresive is a good discription of me though.
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Post by: aldo_14 on August 16, 2005, 07:02:03 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Nuke

hey, its possible. im at the age where schizophrenia usually sets in. and im seemingly always in a dazed state, even though ive greatly reduced my chemical intake. manic depresive is a good discription of me though.


Well, have you asked yourself if you're nuts?
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Post by: Ulala on August 17, 2005, 01:14:37 am
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Originally posted by Maeglamor
[color=66ff00]BTW Happy birthday Ulala. Stop posting and go party. ;)

Well that or just play on your lappy. Nice present BTW. :nod::yes:
[/color]


Thanks Maeg. Don't worry, I had a lil' party where my friends came over and they all gave me the same present: manual labor. Here's what we started building...

(http://server3.uploadit.org/files/Ulala321-pad6.jpg)

Mwahahaha..... ;7 ;7 ;7

And, without further ado, a picture of my desk at work. I had to take it with my phone, so it's small and the quality sucks, but meh.. at least my desk is clean!

Dude, don't lvlshot images narrower than 640px. // Sandwich
(http://server2.uploadit.org/files/Ulala321-Image0181.JPG)

*glances back to first post of thread* I must admit, however, I do like my desk at home better. :D
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Post by: Descenterace on August 17, 2005, 01:59:06 am
Last Thursday I took delivery of a box which, at first glance, appeared to contain a full-sized Mammoth Tank.

On closer inspection, the object inside turned out to be a computer case.

Meet the Stacker:


I doubt you'd find one of these on a desk. Maybe on the floor at the end of the desk, extending the working space...

I have plans for this case. Note the space for a second PSU:


I'm thinking that I can fit two mainboards (one Fatal1ty and one crappy AMD K6-2-based) into this case. With a KVM switch. And four power sockets.

Now THAT'll be a nice addition to my desk.
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Post by: CP5670 on August 17, 2005, 02:12:06 am
That's a CM Stacker, right? Badass case, arguably the best one out there. I have its smaller brother, the Centurion 5 case.

The only problem with these cases is that the mesh screen in the front collects dust very quickly and the dust really becomes noticeable, although it is easily cleaned by running a cloth or something over it every now and then.
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Post by: Nuke on August 17, 2005, 02:14:57 am
Quote
Originally posted by aldo_14


Well, have you asked yourself if you're nuts?


and my answer would have to be yes :D
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Post by: Turnsky on August 17, 2005, 03:30:21 am
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Turnsky/The%20Pad/DSC00580.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Turnsky/The%20Pad/DSC00581.jpg)

there's an xbox buried in there next to the PS2
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Post by: Descenterace on August 17, 2005, 12:12:49 pm
Quote
Originally posted by CP5670
The only problem with these cases is that the mesh screen in the front collects dust very quickly and the dust really becomes noticeable, although it is easily cleaned by running a cloth or something over it every now and then.


I've got plans for the front. Y'see, I don't really need all the fan mounts. I'm intending to put a watercooling system in there. The radiator will be a massive Black Ice III one (currently en route) bolted to the top with three fans on it, sticking up like a fin.

Then I'm going to make the outside surface look like a Shivan hull...

The front panel will probably end up mostly drives, switches and red glowy bits.
The rear will have what looks like an engine around the top PSU vents, and an auxiliary engine around the bottom ones.

Anyway... enough about my new system and back to the topic. :p
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Post by: Ulala on August 17, 2005, 12:17:58 pm
My bad Sandy, force of habit.

Nice setup Turnsky. Did I miss your tablet? *looks again*
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Post by: Darkage on August 17, 2005, 02:06:15 pm
Quote
Originally posted by CP5670


I think most of the better CRTs have that feature. Mine also supports dual input, although both channels are 15 pin D-Subs.




True, most good CRT's have dual-channel support these days. But like you said with two HD-15 connectors instead of a 13W3. And the 13W3 is used on sun machines although they are starting to phase put the 13W3 connectors and are putting in DVI-I and DVI-D connectors wich are far nicer.


Below my monitor Specs.

General
Display Type    Display / CRT
Enclosure Colour    White
Compatibility    PC Display
Diagonal Size    21"
Viewable Size    17.4"
Dot Pitch / Pixel Pitch    0.26 mm

Max Resolution    1600 x 1200 / 75 Hz
Max Sync Rate (V x H)    112 Hz x 93 kHz
Factory Preset Resolution Modes    1280 x 1024 / 76 Hz
1152 x 900 / 76 Hz
1600 x 1200 / 75 Hz
1152 x 900 / 66 Hz
1280 x 1024 / 67 Hz
960 x 680 / 112 Hz

Front Panel Controls    Power on/off, adjust +/- , menu
On-Screen Controls    Contrast, brightness, H/V-position, H/V-size, degauss
Interface    VGA (HD-15)
Image Aspect Ratio    4:3

Video Input
Analogue video Signal    RGB
Expansion / Connectivity
Connections    1 x display / video - VGA - 13W3 - 1
1 x display / video - VGA - 15 pin HD D-Sub (HD-15) - 1

Miscellaneous
Compliant Standards    UL, EPA Energy Star
Cables Included    1 x power cable
1 x display cable - 2 m

Power
Form Factor    Integrated
Voltage Required    AC 117/240 V ± 10% ( 50/60 Hz )
Top of PageSoftware / System Requirements
Software Included    Drivers & Utilities


The menu functions also control the landing, Color Temp and seperate RGB channel adjustments, Geometry, Convergence, Zoom.
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Post by: CP5670 on August 17, 2005, 04:58:38 pm
lol, you posted the whole thing? :D This is the stuff for mine, copied off the NEC website:

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Active Display Area (Full Scan):
Horizontal: 16.0 in. / 406.1 mm
Vertical: 12.0 in. / 304.6 mm

Picture Tube/Display:
22" (20.0" viewable image size), SuperBright Diamondtron® Totally-Flat Aperture Grille CRT, 0.24mm aperture grille pitch, medium short persistence phosphor, sRGB, anti-static screen coating, 90° deflection, dark-tint screen and OptiClear® screen surface, NaViSet™ interactive display settings control software, integrated 4-port powered USB hub

Synchronization Range (Automatic):
Horizontal: 30 kHz to 140 kHz
Vertical: 50 Hz to 160 Hz
640 x 480 @ 50 to 160 Hz
800 x 600 @ 50 to 160 Hz
1024 x 768 @ 50 to 160 Hz
1280 x 960 @ 50 to 136 Hz
1280 x 1024 @ 50 to 127 Hz
1600 x 1200 @ 50 to 110 Hz
1800 x 1350 @ 50 to 98 Hz
1920 x 1440 @ 50 to 92 Hz
2048 x 1536 @ 50 to 86 Hz

Net Dimensions:
19.5 in. (W) x 19.1 in. (H) x 18.5 in. (D)
495 mm (W) x 484.5 mm (H) x 471 mm (D)
Net Weight: 65.7 lbs. / 29.8 kg
Shipping Weight: 77.2 lbs. / 35 kg

Display Colors: Analog Input, Unlimited Colors
(Dependent upon display card used)

Input Video Signal: ANALOG 0.7 Vp-p / 75 Ohms Positive, dual inputs (D-Sub)


The DVI connections only make a difference for LCDs though. CRTs that support them are extremely rare and don't benefit from them anyway.

Quote

Then I'm going to make the outside surface look like a Shivan hull...

The front panel will probably end up mostly drives, switches and red glowy bits.
The rear will have what looks like an engine around the top PSU vents, and an auxiliary engine around the bottom ones.


That sounds very cool. Post some pictures around here when you are done.
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Post by: LtNarol on August 17, 2005, 06:27:08 pm
Anyone here know where I can find a reliable power usage chart for the basics: motherboard, cpus, drives, etc?
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Post by: Darkage on August 17, 2005, 06:39:09 pm
Quote
Originally posted by CP5670
lol, you posted the whole thing? :D This is the stuff for mine, copied off the NEC website:



The DVI connections only make a difference for LCDs though. CRTs that support them are extremely rare and don't benefit from them anyway.





The whole thing lol:D atleast as specific as i could find lol:D

And yes the DVI connections make only a difference on a LCD screen. So far i havent seen them on CRT's and proberly never will as they like you said don't benefit from them.

The new Sun LCD's that we get at work have support for HD-15 and DVI-I and DVI-D. But those screens are used for graphical designing platforms.

My GFX card does support DVI but since i don't have a LCD i don't use it and i still preffer CRT over LCD anytime, call me old fashioned:p
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Post by: DaBrain on August 17, 2005, 06:44:28 pm
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Originally posted by Turnsky
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Turnsky/The%20Pad/DSC00580.jpg)
 


:eek2:
This gigantic grey thing under your sketch can't be a Wacom, right?

Please tell me it's a scanner or something else. :shaking:

Edit: Gilliette rules. ;) :yes:
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Post by: Charismatic on August 17, 2005, 07:31:12 pm
Probably scanner. Mine is long like that too.
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Post by: Turnsky on August 17, 2005, 08:14:21 pm
yeah, that's my trusty Hercs @home 48 USB scanner..
Ulala, DaBrain..you mean this, right? :p ;)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Turnsky/The%20Pad/DSC00582.jpg)
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Post by: Nuke on August 17, 2005, 09:20:10 pm
im supprised i havent seen a bong on anyones desk yet :D
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Post by: Ulala on August 17, 2005, 10:48:32 pm
Ah ha! There 'tis! :nod: :yes:
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Post by: CP5670 on August 18, 2005, 12:09:30 am
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And yes the DVI connections make only a difference on a LCD screen. So far i havent seen them on CRT's and proberly never will as they like you said don't benefit from them.


I know of just one CRT out there with a DVI connector and it's a bit below top of the line. It's too bad that most new video cards only have DVI connectors though and those DVI-VGA dongles they come with aren't always of high quality.

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My GFX card does support DVI but since i don't have a LCD i don't use it and i still preffer CRT over LCD anytime, call me old fashioned:p


Nothing wrong with that. :D They're still the best choice for games (superior contrast, color uniformity and refresh rates as well as flexibility with resolutions) unless you can afford the $3000+ professional grade LCDs, and even then you have to spend over twice that to get comparable resolutions. So I got the performance of a $6000 LCD for around $700. :D The best thing about my monitor is this superbright feature. There is a button on the front that instantly doubles or triples the brightness while maintaining the contrast (light colors become brighter and more saturated while dark colors stay dark) and makes games look simply awesome. The difference this thing makes is like night and day; there is nothing quite like it out there.

The only shortcomings of this monitor are the two faint lines that appear on all aperture grill CRTs. They are noticeable on a light background, although only if I consciously look them. The advantages of AG monitors far outweigh those lines though IMO.

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Anyone here know where I can find a reliable power usage chart for the basics: motherboard, cpus, drives, etc?


It's hard to measure that accurately, although you can get some rough readings. Are you trying to figure out what kind of power supply you need?
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Post by: Turnsky on August 18, 2005, 12:49:48 am
unless it's a 4ms monitor, which viewsonic are making.
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Post by: CP5670 on August 18, 2005, 12:59:26 am
That's a 6-bit TN monitor though, so dark gradients are going to look like crap on it.

anyway, I guess all this is kind of getting off topic...
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Post by: Turnsky on August 18, 2005, 01:12:12 am
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Originally posted by CP5670
That's a 6-bit TN monitor though, so dark gradients are going to look like crap on it.

anyway, I guess all this is kind of getting off topic...

not that, this one (http://www.techbuy.com.au/products/51822/MONITORS_19LCD/View_Sonic/VX924/VX924_19_LCD_Monitor_4ms_Response.asp)

anywho, yeah, i'm gonna replace my 19" samsung 'cuz it's beginning to crap out on me, and it's starting to lose focus..

oh yeah, the 'gamage' shown there isn't nearly all of them..
all pics shown by me are of my personal workspace/bedroom.. god bless the mess ;)
all i've gotta say for everybody else's.. pfah!.. you cleaned it up for the pics!, no way in hell anybody's personal desk space would be that clean! :p
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Post by: CP5670 on August 18, 2005, 01:26:19 am
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not that, this one (http://www.techbuy.com.au/products/51822/MONITORS_19LCD/View_Sonic/VX924/VX924_19_LCD_Monitor_4ms_Response.asp)

anywho, yeah, i'm gonna replace my 19" samsung 'cuz it's beginning to crap out on me, and it's starting to lose focus..


yeah, that VX924 is 6-bit.

If you are going to spend that much, get one of the LCDs with the x-brite/opticlear coating. Sony and NEC make some, although only in 19" versions. They look far better than normal LCDs.

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oh yeah, the 'gamage' shown there isn't nearly all of them..
all pics shown by me are of my personal workspace/bedroom.. god bless the mess ;)

all i've gotta say for everybody else's.. pfah!.. you cleaned it up for the pics!, no way in hell anybody's personal desk space would be that clean! :p


feh, not all of us are slobs. :p I used to be actually, but like Kalfireth, I couldn't find anything when I wanted to, so now I am fairly organized with all my stuff. :D Anyway, only that laptop is in my own room.

That being said, the rest of my room doesn't look so nice. My incomplete Lego projects and random pieces are scattered around the floor. Most of the stuff is neatly sorted into arrays of small compartments, but if I take out a piece and then decide not to use it, I tend to just leave it on the floor instead of putting it back inside its bin.
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Post by: aldo_14 on August 18, 2005, 07:01:34 am
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Originally posted by Nuke


and my answer would have to be yes :D


Ah, but you should never trust a madman.
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Post by: Nuke on August 18, 2005, 08:02:11 am
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Originally posted by aldo_14


Ah, but you should never trust a madman.

and i never do :D

hey kal, is that a bondage restraint of sorts on your little side table :D
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Post by: aldo_14 on August 18, 2005, 08:09:42 am
Kinky.
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Post by: Darkage on August 18, 2005, 11:08:19 am
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Originally posted by CP5670


I know of just one CRT out there with a DVI connector and it's a bit below top of the line. It's too bad that most new video cards only have DVI connectors though and those DVI-VGA dongles they come with aren't always of high quality.



Nothing wrong with that. :D They're still the best choice for games (superior contrast, color uniformity and refresh rates as well as flexibility with resolutions) unless you can afford the $3000+ professional grade LCDs, and even then you have to spend over twice that to get comparable resolutions. So I got the performance of a $6000 LCD for around $700. :D The best thing about my monitor is this superbright feature. There is a button on the front that instantly doubles or triples the brightness while maintaining the contrast (light colors become brighter and more saturated while dark colors stay dark) and makes games look simply awesome. The difference this thing makes is like night and day; there is nothing quite like it out there.

The only shortcomings of this monitor are the two faint lines that appear on all aperture grill CRTs. They are noticeable on a light background, although only if I consciously look them. The advantages of AG monitors far outweigh those lines though IMO.



It's hard to measure that accurately, although you can get some rough readings. Are you trying to figure out what kind of power supply you need?




Trinitron lines, i ahve them also, it doesn't bother me aymore even not on bright backgrounds.
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Post by: Kazan on August 18, 2005, 12:14:04 pm
a monitor that is going out of focus can be fixed - you just ahve to trust yourself with the casing off adjusting [with an insulated screwdriver!] the knobs
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Post by: LtNarol on August 18, 2005, 12:33:50 pm
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Originally posted by CP5670
It's hard to measure that accurately, although you can get some rough readings. Are you trying to figure out what kind of power supply you need?

Ya, I'm trying to mount:

3 HDDs
1 DVD/CD combo drive
AMD 2ghz CPU (Athlon XP 2800 Barton, I believe)
Nvidia FX 5600 U.
TVTuner card
and many many fans

I'm curious if my current 450watt power supply will be able to handle that safely.
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Post by: Darkage on August 18, 2005, 12:43:04 pm
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Originally posted by Kazan
a monitor that is going out of focus can be fixed - you just ahve to trust yourself with the casing off adjusting [with an insulated screwdriver!] the knobs



It's easy still dangerous sparks can still go through the cables isolation experienced it to many times:), but i suggest using a plastic object that fits the knobs would be better. Also try to get a nice grid pattern on the screen makes adjusting the focus more easy. Unless the tube quality is going down then you can have a hard time focusing it propperly:)

Hi Kazan:D
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Post by: Ulala on August 18, 2005, 12:44:31 pm
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Originally posted by LtNarol

Ya, I'm trying to mount:

3 HDDs
1 DVD/CD combo drive
AMD 2ghz CPU (Athlon XP 2800 Barton, I believe)
Nvidia FX 5600 U.
TVTuner card
and many many fans

I'm curious if my current 450watt power supply will be able to handle that safely.


Probably. Depends on how many fans is "many many" I guess.. I have more in my case than you do, including multiple cathodes, and my 500W runs everything with plenty of juice to spare.

You could always just plug it all in and find out for sure. ;)
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Post by: Kazan on August 18, 2005, 12:45:31 pm
hey dark.. where you been hiding
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Post by: Ulala on August 18, 2005, 12:46:19 pm
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Originally posted by Kazan
hey dark


Dark is here?!?!?!? Get his Apollo Mk. 2, stat! :p
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Post by: Darkage on August 18, 2005, 12:48:29 pm
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Originally posted by Kazan
hey dark.. where you been hiding



Hehe, i have been mostly lurking here on HLP then posting, and i play allot of eve these days:)

And i work way to much, although thats my own fault so i shouldn't complain:)

Nice to see you again though:) :yes:
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Post by: CP5670 on August 18, 2005, 02:45:16 pm
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Ya, I'm trying to mount:

3 HDDs
1 DVD/CD combo drive
AMD 2ghz CPU (Athlon XP 2800 Barton, I believe)
Nvidia FX 5600 U.
TVTuner card
and many many fans

I'm curious if my current 450watt power supply will be able to handle that safely.


What brand is it? The brand and current ratings on each line (usually shown on a sticker on its side) matter more than the total power rating. It will be more than enough if it's a quality 450W unit, but a generic no-name one may run into problems. The hard drives, CD drives and fans (anything with a motor, basically) all use the 12V line, but AXPs run off the 5V line unlike newer processors so you have a bit more headroom on the 12V line than you would normally.

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a monitor that is going out of focus can be fixed - you just ahve to trust yourself with the casing off adjusting [with an insulated screwdriver!] the knobs


Mine has two holes on the side that allow you to adjust the focus controls using a screwdriver with a long shank. Those things are really important for my particular monitor model, since these focus screws tend to be poorly adjusted by default. Playing around with them for a minute fixes everything though.
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Post by: LtNarol on August 18, 2005, 04:09:35 pm
Its a Coolmax, with 3 12V lines; does it matter if I spread usage evenly across the 3 lines?
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Post by: Sandwich on August 18, 2005, 04:10:45 pm
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Originally posted by Darkage
The new Sun LCD's that we get at work have support for HD-15 and DVI-I and DVI-D. But those screens are used for graphical designing platforms.


What's the difference between DIV-I and -D? Mine's -D...

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Originally posted by CP5670
The only shortcomings of this monitor are the two faint lines that appear on all aperture grill CRTs. They are noticeable on a light background, although only if I consciously look them. The advantages of AG monitors far outweigh those lines though IMO.


Also known as Trinitron, yes?

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Originally posted by Turnsky
all i've gotta say for everybody else's.. pfah!.. you cleaned it up for the pics!, no way in hell anybody's personal desk space would be that clean! :p


*ahem* (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=711227) :D

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Originally posted by CP5670
Most of the stuff is neatly sorted into arrays of small compartments, but if I take out a piece and then decide not to use it, I tend to just leave it on the floor instead of putting it back inside its bin.


Ahh, Legos on the floor - a sign of a true child at heart. :yes: ;)
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Post by: Darkage on August 18, 2005, 06:23:11 pm
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Originally posted by Sandwich


What's the difference between DIV-I and -D? Mine's -D...



D, stands for Digital wich is used allot on LCD screens, my card supports DVI-D aswell. Came with a DVI-VGA converter.

    * DVI-A: This connection is analog, but with an image quality better than standard VGA.
    * DVI-D: Digital connection. This is the kind of connection we've been talking about.
    * DVI-I: Cable that can carry both DVI-A and DVI-D signals. DVI-A cables can carry only DVI-A signals and DVI-D cables can carry only DVD-D signals.
    * Single Link: Allows screen resolutions up to 1920 x 1080 pixels at 60 frames per second.
    * Dual Link: Allows screen resolutions up to 2048 x 1536 pixels at 60 frames per second.


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Originally posted by CP5670
Mine has two holes on the side that allow you to adjust the focus controls using a screwdriver with a long shank. Those things are really important for my particular monitor model, since these focus screws tend to be poorly adjusted by default. Playing around with them for a minute fixes everything though.




It's important for every CRT monitor:D

Also use a Grid pattern (http://www.scarse.org/adjust/geometry.gif)  like this one or something better and full screen to adjust your focus better/easyer and more precise.


Picture i took from Picture of HV line transformer with intergrated focuing pack. (http://www.friendship7.co.uk/gallery/files/5/8/58-tubepart_original.jpg)

Bottom right you can see the HV line transformer with the focussing knobs. Some come also with a G2 adjustment knob to adjust the brightness of the screen aswell but the brighter you turn it the harder it is to get good focusing especialy with older monitors or monitors that are aging. But most of the time the brightness is controlled on a G2 circuit with a preset resistor value.

I'll shutup now:)
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Post by: CP5670 on August 18, 2005, 06:35:47 pm
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Its a Coolmax, with 3 12V lines; does it matter if I spread usage evenly across the 3 lines?


It should work fine, but 3 12V lines on a 450W means that each one will individually be quite weak, so balancing everything out evenly will be a bit tricky. Coolmax PSUs aren't known for high quality either, although you could do a lot worse than them. Just add one device at a time and see if any stability problems come up. That CPU and video card aren't very power hungry, but the three hard disks will need some juice unless they are older, slower ones.

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Also known as Trinitron, yes?


Sort of. Sony invented the AG technology and held the patent for a few decades so the Trinitron name became synonymous with AGs, but after the patent expired Mitsubishi also made AG tubes under the name Diamondtron, which is what I have. I think the final generation Diamondtrons were a little better than the latest Trinitrons; the single electron gun generally gave slightly better convergence and supported higher refresh rates.

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Ahh, Legos on the floor - a sign of a true child at heart. :yes: ;)


Exactly. :D I have a helicopter simulator thing, a 4x4x4 monster truck, an SP2 spacecraft and some other partially complete stuff around the floor. I'll finish them all, eventually. :D The walls are also decked out with shelves containing a hundred or so models, both official and custom designs. I have always been something of a Lego fanatic and have built up a nice collection over the years.
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Post by: Stealth on August 18, 2005, 10:21:36 pm
Me: Performance over looks

(http://www.swooh.com/home/lorenzo/pictures/computerdesk1.jpg)
(http://www.swooh.com/home/lorenzo/pictures/computerdesk2.jpg)
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Post by: Cobra on August 19, 2005, 12:46:30 am
holy ****!! now THAT is what i call a setup! 4 PCs????
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Post by: Ulala on August 19, 2005, 01:30:22 am
I only count 3 towers? :confused:
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Post by: Descenterace on August 19, 2005, 02:20:43 am
4 PCs? Yup, I've got that too.

The primary system is the one I photographed.

The secondary was built from the bits I took out of the primary when I last upgraded (last year).

My server is built from the system I got from a customer as part-payment for a new system.

The family computer is built from the bits I took out of the primary system the second-from-last time I upgraded it (the year before last).

I have an IBM Thinkpad with a dud power unit somewhere. It'll work, if I can get a new power unit.

I have enough parts for three more PCs lying around. The CPUs are:
* A 500MHz AMD K6-2, which will probably be going into my Stacker case with the primary, for playing DOS games on,
* A Duron 1200, which will be replacing the 550MHz Pentium 3 in my server,
* An Athlon XP 2700, which I bought second-hand from one friend and am putting into a system I'm building for another friend.

So 3 towers isn't a lot.
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Post by: Nuke on August 19, 2005, 02:37:36 am
i have 2 working computers but i dont hve a monitor for other one. i also have a spacre processor and some laptop parts.  i perfer the simplicity of running only one pc though. i dont have to update my files between them. dvd-r serves as backup.
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Post by: Sandwich on August 19, 2005, 02:38:28 am
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Originally posted by Cobra
holy ****!! now THAT is what i call a setup! 4 PCs????


I only count 2; the dark gray "PC" on the left is his stereo.
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Post by: Nuke on August 19, 2005, 02:52:03 am
thats a sub, there are 2 on the floor and one on the desk
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Post by: Stealth on August 20, 2005, 11:19:41 am
actually you should only be able to see two computers.  the two on the right of the picture (personal computer, and server (smaller one)).  my gaming computer is in the car.  so in reality, i have 3 towers, and two laptops (although one's too slow to hardly even use)

(http://www.swooh.com/home/lorenzo/pictures/computerdesk1numbered.jpg)
1) primary computer (what i'm using right now)
2) server (cables lying on top of it are what my gaming computer plugs into.  gaming computer sits on top of server)
3) primary stereo
4) KVM switch (primary, server, and gaming computer)
5) secondary stereo (sometimes listen to both on... as you can see i have a couple of speakers, surround)
6) printer (not working at the moment)
7) nifty little thing i built... light switches, but with the speakers wired through them.  since my primary stereo isn't surround capable, i've got 6 speakers.  two in front of me, two further on each side (like the one directly next to the stereo), and then two far on each side (the other two corners of my room).  i can turn off each speaker with this little 'box'.  not too practical, but pretty neat :)
8) subwoofer for secondary stereo

curious what you thought was the 3rd and 4th PC in the picture :)
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Post by: Fineus on August 20, 2005, 11:48:21 am
Quite a lot of equipment packed neatly into a compact space though. Kudos on the layout :)
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Post by: -Vulture- on August 20, 2005, 12:25:10 pm
Well, this one heres mine. I like its silver/black/blue color-mix, looks really stylish^^...
(http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/8377/cimg04508ue.jpg)

And here with less lightning, now you see more blue^^...

(http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/1191/cimg04532ca.jpg)
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Post by: Nuke on August 20, 2005, 08:10:34 pm
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Originally posted by Stealth
actually you should only be able to see two computers.  the two on the right of the picture (personal computer, and server (smaller one)).  my gaming computer is in the car.  so in reality, i have 3 towers, and two laptops (although one's too slow to hardly even use)

(http://www.swooh.com/home/lorenzo/pictures/computerdesk1numbered.jpg)
1) primary computer (what i'm using right now)
2) server (cables lying on top of it are what my gaming computer plugs into.  gaming computer sits on top of server)
3) primary stereo
4) KVM switch (primary, server, and gaming computer)
5) secondary stereo (sometimes listen to both on... as you can see i have a couple of speakers, surround)
6) printer (not working at the moment)
7) nifty little thing i built... light switches, but with the speakers wired through them.  since my primary stereo isn't surround capable, i've got 6 speakers.  two in front of me, two further on each side (like the one directly next to the stereo), and then two far on each side (the other two corners of my room).  i can turn off each speaker with this little 'box'.  not too practical, but pretty neat :)
8) subwoofer for secondary stereo

curious what you thought was the 3rd and 4th PC in the picture :)


so, they make stereos look like computers now. intresting.
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Post by: Stealth on August 20, 2005, 11:13:26 pm
actually i got that thing in *thinks* 1992, maybe 1993.  no later than '94.  still works perfectly though.

it probably only looks like a computer from far away.  i can see how you'd mistake it for one... up close it looks pretty normal :)
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Post by: Knight Templar on August 21, 2005, 02:47:22 am
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Originally posted by Stealth
Me: Performance over looks
 


:lol:
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Post by: Genryu on August 21, 2005, 02:53:21 am
Currently living at my sister's house due to a job, but, here is mine :

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/shikaze66/Desktop.jpg)
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Post by: Stealth on August 21, 2005, 03:32:30 pm
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Originally posted by Knight Templar


:lol:

funny to you perhaps, but true.  i don't care what my computers look like... how fancy the case is or how many lights it has, but i bet my computers beat out 90% of computers that have been posted thus far.

...kid
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Post by: aldo_14 on August 21, 2005, 03:37:37 pm
:rolleyes:

server room

*cough*
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Post by: achtung on August 21, 2005, 04:18:58 pm
Just cleaned up yesterday



(http://us.f3.yahoofs.com/users/42593f36z75ebb750/6bce/__sr_/69c8.jpg?phFLPCDBbgil.sKr)


(http://us.f3.yahoofs.com/users/42593f36z75ebb750/6bce/__sr_/61f9.jpg?phFLPCDBROrYZtN.)

Yea, its an HP, so sue me.
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Post by: Stealth on August 21, 2005, 05:01:59 pm
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Originally posted by aldo_14
:rolleyes:

server room

*cough*


yes but i'm sure you'll agree that's a completely different situation.  for one, it's not mine... it's the company's.  two, i could care less what people think of my setup, but a lot of people care a whole lot what people think of their server room.  three, if you've already got performance, then why not work on looks.  

basically, to try and compare a home setup to a corporate server room setup, would be... well... idiotic.
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Post by: mikhael on August 21, 2005, 05:57:43 pm
Unless your home set up is JUST LIKE a corporate server room setup. ;)
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Post by: Nuke on August 21, 2005, 10:21:07 pm
i really dont see a point of having a server at home unless your trying to run a buisness of sorts. im sure some of you can afford to keep a webserver going but unless it pays for itself its just lunacy.
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Post by: Stealth on August 21, 2005, 11:19:53 pm
well i run a file, web, and multiple game servers off it, including counterstrike, PVPGN, etc.  and misc. other programs (teamspeak and ventrilo server, etc. etc. etc.).

so i'm sure you can see the point of having one now :nods:
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Post by: Descenterace on August 22, 2005, 01:29:57 am
I run a DNS and webserver. There'll be four of us geeks living in this house this year, and all of us have two or more computers (and monitors) each. So I'm spending a lot of time installing Cat5 cable to each room, including the living room (where we'll have one hell of an entertainment system). Of course, laying cable without doing anything permanent to the walls is awkward, but easily solved with cable ties and sticky pads.

Cable ties: the duct tape alternative.

The main reason I run a webserver: I want to.
The main reason I run a DNS: I have a domain and our network has five real IPs, so I'm gathering some experience by configuring a BIND nameserver. Next step is a mail server.
Also running on that server is a complicated DHCP arrangement to let us run two seperate networks (one real, one on a local subnet only) on the same switch behind the same router, and bind the real IPs to certain MAC addresses.
When I reconfigure my Duron 1200 system to replace the existing server, I'll set up a dedicated Descent 3 server too.

I always put computer performance before appearance, but I've decided that just for once I'm going to have a computer that looks like a beast. When I first took my Athlon64 machine to a LAN party, it was in a dull beige case. Someone was sniggering as they asked me what the spec was; I just pointed to the A64 sticker.
IIRC, it was the only A64 there.
Next time, they're gonna know it's a powerhouse. What they won't be expecting is two computers in the same case...
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Post by: Stealth on August 22, 2005, 07:22:19 am
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Originally posted by Descenterace
Next time, they're gonna know it's a powerhouse. What they won't be expecting is two computers in the same case...


hehe, that's what i said about my next game computer :D.  

however, two computers in the same case?  why? :-p  are you going to have them completely seperate? (i.e. seperate power supplies, etc.) or what?
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Post by: Descenterace on August 22, 2005, 01:50:14 pm
Yup, seperate. I'm going to hardwire one of them (the one that's least likely to be upgraded) to the KVM switch I'm building into the case. The other will plug in via some very short homemade cables.
The case is more than able to fit two power supplies. However, there will be only one power cable going into the machine... I'm going to chain two power supplies, two monitor power outlets and four standard three-pin sockets off a single cable (I'll need to get some help from one of my friends for this; he's more confident with mains voltage electronics than I am). Ultimately all my peripherals will be able to plug into the case for power, instead of needing a seperate 4-gang extension cable.

Best thing about this design? Only takes up one UPS power outlet...
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Post by: Nuke on August 22, 2005, 02:10:35 pm
that would be good if you intend to run one as a server, and the other as a workstation. id connect the two boards together with some really high speed connection (gigabit ethernet). that or you could configure it as a server cluster.

i should set up my other computer as a wireless terminal server and go get me a pda with terminal client capabilities. then id have a handheld device with the power of the much faster machine.
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Post by: Stealth on August 22, 2005, 06:19:34 pm
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Originally posted by Nuke
id connect the two boards together with some really high speed connection (gigabit ethernet).


bus speeds ;)

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Yup, seperate. I'm going to hardwire one of them (the one that's least likely to be upgraded) to the KVM switch I'm building into the case. The other will plug in via some very short homemade cables.
The case is more than able to fit two power supplies. However, there will be only one power cable going into the machine... I'm going to chain two power supplies, two monitor power outlets and four standard three-pin sockets off a single cable (I'll need to get some help from one of my friends for this; he's more confident with mains voltage electronics than I am). Ultimately all my peripherals will be able to plug into the case for power, instead of needing a seperate 4-gang extension cable.

Best thing about this design? Only takes up one UPS power outlet...


yeah but for one, it's not really the one power outlet i'd worry about :p.  second, that's going to be a massive case.  you're going to lug that thing around with you? :p
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Post by: mikhael on August 22, 2005, 09:07:58 pm
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Originally posted by Nuke
i really dont see a point of having a server at home unless your trying to run a buisness of sorts. im sure some of you can afford to keep a webserver going but unless it pays for itself its just lunacy.


My home network consists of a fileserver, two desktops, and two laptops. At one point, there was a database server and a dns server. I ran a webhosting service out of my house for some friends. Nothing serious, just to keep current on Apache, Postgres, Python, PHP, FreeBSD, Samba, etc. The DBserver and the DNS server have been merged into the fileserver now. It stores the user profiles for my wife and I, so that if our machines ever crash, we don't lose all our data. Not only that, but the fileserver provides a nice "known good" server for me to connect to from anywhere in the world when I'm trying to solve client network problems.

But the main reason for all that? Because I can. It doesn't need to pay for itself.
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Post by: Kamikaze on August 22, 2005, 09:47:37 pm
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Originally posted by Nuke
i really dont see a point of having a server at home unless your trying to run a buisness of sorts.


At this house we have a linux server that acts as a file, mail and web server for the house. Aside from that there are 4 desktop machines and 4 laptops. The one desktop system running linux (mine) is running an ssh daemon. Not only can I manage my computer from anywhere in my house (laptop + ssh), I can also login to my computer from outside the local network via the fileserver and check my mail (I don't use webmail much) or whatever else.

It's not like it costs a significant amount to run a server anyway unless you want an SDSL line to go with it or something.

BTW: I'm also thinking an LDAP server might be interesting to set up, as my siblings all have individual accounts on the family machines and they might as well be shared.
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Post by: mikhael on August 22, 2005, 10:08:23 pm
That's what i use Samba for, Kamikaze.
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Post by: CP5670 on August 22, 2005, 10:19:29 pm
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   Yup, seperate. I'm going to hardwire one of them (the one that's least likely to be upgraded) to the KVM switch I'm building into the case. The other will plug in via some very short homemade cables.
The case is more than able to fit two power supplies. However, there will be only one power cable going into the machine... I'm going to chain two power supplies, two monitor power outlets and four standard three-pin sockets off a single cable (I'll need to get some help from one of my friends for this; he's more confident with mains voltage electronics than I am). Ultimately all my peripherals will be able to plug into the case for power, instead of needing a seperate 4-gang extension cable.

Best thing about this design? Only takes up one UPS power outlet...


I was thinking of doing something like this at one point, except to have one modern computer and one old computer, so I could play legacy games without having to go to another room and use an inferior monitor (two full size cases on my desk will clutter up the area and there is no other space in the room for the second machine).

The Stacker should be big enough, but how are you going to attach the second motherboard to the case and line up its PCI slots with the slot covers on the case?
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Post by: Descenter on August 23, 2005, 12:01:15 am
My Desk....and like a few people, it's messy.   :p

(http://www.geocities.com/deacenter6/Desktop.JPG)

(I also felt like adding myself into this.....:D )

(http://www.geocities.com/deacenter6/Pict0010.JPG)
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Post by: Nuke on August 23, 2005, 12:06:28 am
how geeky
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Post by: Descenterace on August 23, 2005, 01:19:04 am
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Originally posted by CP5670


I was thinking of doing something like this at one point, except to have one modern computer and one old computer, so I could play legacy games without having to go to another room and use an inferior monitor (two full size cases on my desk will clutter up the area and there is no other space in the room for the second machine).


That's my plan. The secondary board is an old Socket7 thing with an AMD K6-2 in it. Best thing about this is low heat production and...

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Originally posted by CP5670

The Stacker should be big enough, but how are you going to attach the second motherboard to the case and line up its PCI slots with the slot covers on the case?


... all the needed peripherals are onboard. I won't have to line up the PCI cards because there won't be any.

The most complex part of the whole business is making everything look neat. Add an extensive watercooling system utilising 1/2" pipes to the main system and you've not got a lot of room to play with.
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Post by: Marauder on August 23, 2005, 09:27:27 am
My summertime work space (during school it's at the kitchen table). :D

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/durisnonfrangor/DSC01062.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/durisnonfrangor/DSC01060.jpg)

OK, so maybe there's a flail suspended from the hard drive... :nervous:
Still need to buy Microsoft Word though if I'm gonna do work off it. :hopping:
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Post by: Sandwich on August 23, 2005, 10:11:07 am
MS Word? Eugh. Open-Office. :yes:
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Post by: Nuke on August 23, 2005, 10:17:07 am
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Originally posted by Marauder
OK, so maybe there's a flail suspended from the hard drive... :nervous:


at least he didnt call it a modem
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Post by: Darkage on August 23, 2005, 11:15:21 am
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Originally posted by mikhael
That's what i use Samba for, Kamikaze.



Yeah Samba is great, i use it on my Unix machine running Solaris 9.
On the Solaris 10 box, it is lareayd installed so that was easyer and faster to setup.


And Open-Office is very nice:)
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Post by: Descenterace on August 23, 2005, 12:08:03 pm
Samba works OK, but I wouldn't say it's great. The SMB protocol involves a fair amount of broadcast traffic. Remember to block the relevant outgoing ports at your firewalls, boys and girls.

The protocol is certainly usable (it has some things in common with NFS, not all of them good) but only if you run it from a *n[iu]x machine. Leave it to a Windows server and you'll need a homogeneous network before it'll work right (as anyone who's tried to put different flavours of WinXP together on the same network will know). Strangely, Linux machines don't seem to have any trouble talking to any version of Windows...

445: The Port Number of the Beast.
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Post by: Kamikaze on August 23, 2005, 12:25:10 pm
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Originally posted by Marauder

OK, so maybe there's a flail suspended from the hard drive... :nervous:
Still need to buy Microsoft Word though if I'm gonna do work off it. :hopping:


You might want to try NeoOffice (http://www.neooffice.org/) first though. It's totally free and unlike OpenOffice will actually look like an OS X application.
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Post by: CP5670 on August 23, 2005, 12:40:47 pm
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That's my plan. The secondary board is an old Socket7 thing with an AMD K6-2 in it. Best thing about this is low heat production and...

... all the needed peripherals are onboard. I won't have to line up the PCI cards because there won't be any.

The most complex part of the whole business is making everything look neat. Add an extensive watercooling system utilising 1/2" pipes to the main system and you've not got a lot of room to play with.


oh okay, that's convenient. My older computer has nearly a full load of PCI cards (two Voodoo 2s, ATA controller, 10/100 NIC, SBLive 5.1 that can emulate an SB16), as the motherboard dosn't have much in the way of onboard components.

The 1.4ghz Athlon C in it is like a furnace though. It idles at 57C or so and regularly passes 80C on load despite having a fairly good heatsink on it. It has actually burned a permanent impression on an older heatsink that was placed on it for two years, but this is apparently normal with this CPU. :p The core is also chipped and dented in several places along its edge, but it strangely still works fine. :D
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Post by: Martinus on August 23, 2005, 01:58:30 pm
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Originally posted by Nuke


at least he didnt call it a modem

[color=66ff00]Thinking about it logically it is used to connect with people so it kinda performs the same task.

What's with all of these ladies who hang at HLP and their weapon fascinations? Remind me not to argue with you Marauder. ;)
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Post by: Nuke on August 23, 2005, 02:33:18 pm
in my experience ive heard the computer referd to as many things. hard drive, modem, hub, cpu, cdrom and my favorite; end table. its a computer. ive heard some older pros who know better call it a cpu, even though the cpu is only a tiny allbeit important componant. same goes with hard drive and modem. i dont know how it could be confuysed with a network hub, but it has been. if people dont stop im gonna start calling it a monitor :D
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Post by: CP5670 on August 23, 2005, 02:51:29 pm
I've heard hard drive and CPU quite often, while the monitor is usually called the computer.

What monitor is that by the way? It might be a clone of the one I have.
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Post by: Omniscaper on August 23, 2005, 04:07:28 pm
My turn....

(http://www.game-warden.com/bsg/staff_images/Mydesk.jpg)
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Post by: Sandwich on August 23, 2005, 04:23:50 pm
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Originally posted by Omniscaper
My turn....

(http://www.game-warden.com/bsg/staff_images/Mydesk.jpg)


You're gonna hate me for bring this up again, but honestly, having a monitor that's smaller than a keyboard just looks weird to me now. :nervous:
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Post by: Omniscaper on August 23, 2005, 04:46:55 pm
It serves its purpose. Dude, its the the 2005fpw. 20 inches of diagnal widescreen goodness made a HUGE difference when editing video. I have much more timeline visibility than my old HP 17 inch 3:2 screen. Besides, the monitor is 1 inch longer than my keyboard.
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Post by: Sandwich on August 23, 2005, 05:03:24 pm
Heh... at the sound studio at work, they have a Dual G5 with Apple's 20" Cinema monitor. Before I got my current monster, I'd look at that massively large monitor and not believe it was "only" 20 inches... "Are you sure that's the 20-inch and not the 23-inch?" Heh. Heheh. Heheheh.

Einstien was right - 'tis all relative. :D
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Post by: Omniscaper on August 23, 2005, 05:06:17 pm
I have to admit, Apple's wide Cinema series DESTROYS ALL of its competitors. Dual G5's also puts my dual Xeons to shame (not by uch :) ) They render video effects MUCH faster with out the aid of a Matrox RT card.
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Post by: Marauder on August 23, 2005, 06:57:11 pm
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Originally posted by Kamikaze


You might want to try NeoOffice (http://www.neooffice.org/) first though. It's totally free and unlike OpenOffice will actually look like an OS X application.


Don't get me wrong, it's not like I love using that application.  But at my school, everyone always use MS Office, teachers expect assignments on it, our courses at school teach you how to use it... :rolleyes:
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Post by: Marauder on August 23, 2005, 06:58:36 pm
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Originally posted by Maeglamor

[color=66ff00]Thinking about it logically it is used to connect with people so it kinda performs the same task.

What's with all of these ladies who hang at HLP and their weapon fascinations? Remind me not to argue with you Marauder. ;)
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:lol:

THAT WAS MY SISTER'S PROJECT!! :drevil: Imagine the weapons made by other students in her class...grade four gifted kids... :shaking:
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Post by: CP5670 on August 23, 2005, 10:39:10 pm
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I have to admit, Apple's wide Cinema series DESTROYS ALL of its competitors.


I'm not sure about that. The reviews I have seen all say that the 20" and 23" ones are very similar to the Dell 2005 and 2405, except that they cost considerably more. The 30" is better because it has no competitors (apart from $10k+ professional models with accurate colors), but is way overpriced considering that the image quality is no better than the lower end versions. I mean, you can get three 2405s for the same price.

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Heh... at the sound studio at work, they have a Dual G5 with Apple's 20" Cinema monitor. Before I got my current monster, I'd look at that massively large monitor and not believe it was "only" 20 inches... "Are you sure that's the 20-inch and not the 23-inch?" Heh. Heheh. Heheheh.

Einstien was right - 'tis all relative.


You need to just get a good projector if you like big screens. :D No monitor can touch those for size. Most of them under $1000 only do 1024x768 natively, but they make up for that with the image size. There is actually a home theater oriented projector out there that does 2048x1536 natively, although it costs as much as a small house.
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Post by: Kamikaze on August 23, 2005, 11:38:04 pm
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Originally posted by Marauder


Don't get me wrong, it's not like I love using that application.  But at my school, everyone always use MS Office, teachers expect assignments on it, our courses at school teach you how to use it... :rolleyes:


Yeah, but NeoOffice is perfectly capable of reading and writing Microsoft Word documents so you shouldn't have a problem. In some cases it reads word documents better than MS Word itself.

So at least try it. It's free after all. You'll feel better if it works and you didn't waste $100 on a Microsoft product too. :p
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Post by: Cobra on August 24, 2005, 12:04:59 am
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Originally posted by Maeglamor

[color=66ff00]Thinking about it logically it is used to connect with people so it kinda performs the same task.

What's with all of these ladies who hang at HLP and their weapon fascinations? Remind me not to argue with you Marauder. ;)
[/color]


i'm imagining one of the sisters screaming like a banshee and twirling the flail around like Xena. :D :drevil:
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Post by: Sandwich on August 24, 2005, 01:35:23 am
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Originally posted by Omniscaper
I have to admit, Apple's wide Cinema series DESTROYS ALL of its competitors.


CP may not have been sure, but I am: Wrong. Apple's Cinema series is like a weak iPod: yeah, they may be beautiful... on the outside. Yeah, they may be easy to use... but their capabilities are retarded compared to most other competitors.

Apple Cinema displays are equal or worse than their competitors, all across the board.

Ergonomically? :no:
Display quality? :no:
Size? equal.
Price? :no:
Asthetic design? Beauty is in the eyes and all that, but generally :yes:. Of course, I don't spend my computing hours looking at the bezel of my screen. :lol:
Reliability? :no:
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Post by: WMCoolmon on August 24, 2005, 01:45:39 am
Teaser shot!

This is from awhile back, when the built-in supply for my case was too crappy to power my 6600GT.

Edit: Er, goto this URL...100 kb is better than 800 kb.
http://www.deviantart.com/view/22110232/
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Post by: Martinus on August 24, 2005, 03:16:14 am
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Originally posted by Marauder


:lol:

THAT WAS MY SISTER'S PROJECT!! :drevil: Imagine the weapons made by other students in her class...grade four gifted kids... :shaking:

[color=66ff00]It brings a whole new meaning to the term 'pinging' someone.

I saw how much damage my sister's ex did with my nunchaku (he took out a chandeller in our old house). I can't even guess what he could have done with a flail.

WM: The Spagetti incident?
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Post by: WMCoolmon on August 24, 2005, 05:04:49 am
More like the Accidentally yanking the card out of its socket with the computer on incident. :p
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Post by: Fury on October 20, 2005, 09:15:08 am
I just got my new shiny Canon PowerShot A610 which I ordered a while back... ;7

And for the first time in recorded history; a picture of my room. (http://www.keepersdomain.net/misc/room.jpg)
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Post by: Lt.Cannonfodder on October 20, 2005, 10:16:58 am
I'm jealous.

That chair of yours looks a bit uncomfortable. Don't spend much time on the computers? :p
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Post by: Fury on October 20, 2005, 10:43:58 am
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Originally posted by Lt.Cannonfodder
I'm jealous.

That chair of yours looks a bit uncomfortable. Don't spend much time on the computers? :p

It is suprisingly good chair, considering that it is probaly about 30 years old. I have a newer chair too, but that plastic crap is breaking down even from slight use.
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Post by: Ulala on October 20, 2005, 12:10:02 pm
*blows dust off thread* ;)

Niiiice setup. :nod: I'll post my newer, much smaller and less efficient desk setup now that I'm living in a dorm...
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Post by: Descenterace on October 20, 2005, 02:44:47 pm
In one week, I'll have a hell of a rig to show off...

The watercooling circuit is being tested as I type!
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Post by: Ulala on October 21, 2005, 07:54:40 pm
Here we go:

(http://www.fileh.com/Ulala/PICT0002.JPG)

Sounds sweet, Descenterace. Can't wait to see it. :nod:
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Post by: vyper on October 21, 2005, 08:07:16 pm
You people are too rich.
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Post by: Descenterace on October 22, 2005, 07:35:37 am
I'm a student. It's more accurate to say that my credit card company is too friendly.

I'm sure that'll last until I have no hope of paying it off... but working damn near full time this term solves that problem.
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Post by: Cobra on October 22, 2005, 02:53:02 pm
what i need is a job in a year. i desperately need a new motherboard and processor, since celerons suck and my motherboard doesn't even have an AGP slot.
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Post by: pyro-manic on October 22, 2005, 03:07:21 pm
What is it with people having lots of computers? :confused:

Anyway, an updated one for me: Same kit, but in student digs and a brand new mess. :)

(http://img273.imageshack.us/img273/1340/desk14ve.jpg)

This desk is even worse than my little one at home - it's not a proper desk, but a bit of worktop attached to the wall. So there's no space at the back for cables and wires etc, meaning they all trail down the front and side and get in the way. :doubt:
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Post by: Flipside on October 22, 2005, 03:09:05 pm
Mine looks now pretty much as WMCoolman's did in his picture, except I have a deskfan pointing into the side to keep, curiously enough, my 6600 cool ;)

Edit : Pyro, do you think it'd be noticed if you drilled a hole behind the monitor? ;)
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Post by: Sandwich on October 22, 2005, 05:46:59 pm
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Originally posted by pyro-manic
What is it with people having lots of computers? :confused:

Anyway, an updated one for me: Same kit, but in student digs and a brand new mess. :)

(http://img273.imageshack.us/img273/1340/desk14ve.jpg)

This desk is even worse than my little one at home - it's not a proper desk, but a bit of worktop attached to the wall. So there's no space at the back for cables and wires etc, meaning they all trail down the front and side and get in the way. :doubt:


Hehe - I've got the same Logitech speakers. :)
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Post by: pyro-manic on October 22, 2005, 06:41:12 pm
Flipside: Most likely - the hole would have to be big enough to fit half a dozen cables, plus the volume control for the speakers, plus the monitor plug. Don't think that'd go down too well with the housekeepers. ;) I'd just put the tower on the desk and tape 'em all to the wall, but it's too big... :nervous:

Sandwich: Yours work ok? The volume pot's playing up on mine - at reasonable levels (ie when it's not loud enough to shatter your eardrums), one or the other of the channels cuts out, or is crackly. Most annoying, but I don't want to rip the control apart to try and fix it - I can't afford new ones at the moment....
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Post by: Sandwich on October 23, 2005, 04:33:15 am
My volume control is touchy as well, but in a different fashion. The volume range it controls is sort of like 0, 10-100 (i.e. there's a sudden drop-off to silence at lower levels). Additionally, there's a constant hiss in the speakers (which may be due to them being 110v running on 220v via a transformer). I'm planning to upgrade them soon. ;)

BTW, for a friend's bachelor party, we got him the Logitech X-530 (http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/US/EN,CRID=2177,CONTENTID=9067). We tried them out, and they blow our speakers out of the water. And for only $80 retail, they're quite a good investment if you're not looking to wake up the neighbor's dead dog with the Z-5500's (http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/US/EN,CRID=2177,CONTENTID=9486). :p
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Post by: Nuke on October 23, 2005, 06:47:54 am
i have a second computer, its in my closet blocking a mouser hole, my cat is too stupid to kill the little rodents. my "desk" hasnt changed much, managed to clean the coffee table, and i fixed some busted springs in my couch. never got that 27" plasma monitor i had planned on getting.
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Post by: Ulala on October 24, 2005, 03:33:55 am
Me either. :blah: