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Title: More RIAA silliness
Post by: Kosh on August 16, 2005, 01:38:18 pm: http://www.forbes.com/digitalentertainment/2005/08/15/riaa-targets-cds-cx_variety_0815riaa.html

They just don't know when to stop, do they?
Title: More RIAA silliness
Post by: Ford Prefect on August 16, 2005, 01:43:34 pm: My entire music library is made up of ripped CDs that I paid money for. If they go after CD ripping, I'm going to light someone on fire.
Title: More RIAA silliness
Post by: Solatar on August 16, 2005, 01:46:43 pm: I've got around 5gigs of music on my machine in mp3s. Now...out of the 900 or so songs, I maybe haven't paid for around 50. Why? Because I didn't have an extra $20 just happening to be lying around.
Title: More RIAA silliness
Post by: Martinus on August 16, 2005, 03:08:45 pm: Quote
"We need to demonstrate adaptability to move the debate beyond issues of 'models' to the core questions of property and right versus wrong,"

[color=66ff00]More overpaid, underworked, record company asshat spiel.

Hmmm perhaps the whole right versus wrong angle should be used when thinking about misrepresenting exactly who is responsible for dwindling (yet stupendiously profitable) record sales? Lets see, the market is currently saturated by carbon copy drivel yet it's the downloader's fault that music isn't selling so much...

Only when the world stops buying this thoughtless, talentless crap will we see any reasonable action against the RIAA/BPA/Insert your country's money grabbing media conglomeration here. Listen up people, they're taking your money and using it to sue you!

Next time you're thinking about buying that shiney new CD, check to see if it's on the RIAA supported list, if it is then just go buy something that isn't.
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Title: More RIAA silliness
Post by: pyro-manic on August 16, 2005, 03:10:28 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Ford Prefect
My entire music library is made up of ripped CDs that I paid money for. If they go after CD ripping, I'm going to light someone on fire.
Title: More RIAA silliness
Post by: Solatar on August 16, 2005, 03:31:09 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Maeglamor

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Next time you're thinking about buying that shiney new CD, check to see if it's on the RIAA supported list, if it is then just go buy something that isn't.
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I actually agree, but does anybody know where such a list is? I spent a few minutes on Google but nothing turned up.
Title: More RIAA silliness
Post by: pyro-manic on August 16, 2005, 03:40:43 pm: Most major labels will be. EMI, Universal, Sony, etc.
Title: More RIAA silliness
Post by: Descenter on August 16, 2005, 03:43:21 pm: It's kind of like why make the burners, when you cant burn anything....
Title: More RIAA silliness
Post by: Martinus on August 16, 2005, 03:45:13 pm: [color=66ff00]Pretty comprehensive list here: Link (www.boycott-riaa.com/membership)
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Title: More RIAA silliness
Post by: Flipside on August 16, 2005, 03:48:14 pm: LOL This means they will be going for the 'Rip' menu is Media Player, RIAA vs Microsoft.... could be interesting ;)

As for home copying, screw 'em I own most of the stuff I copy, which is legal under British copyright law as long as I don't distribute.
Title: More RIAA silliness
Post by: Bri_Dog on August 16, 2005, 05:12:26 pm: I'm going to go download some more music just to spite these *******s.
Title: More RIAA silliness
Post by: EtherShock on August 16, 2005, 05:22:00 pm: I haven't bought a CD since they started suing, and I'll continue to not buy CDs from RIAA affiliated labels (which is a lot) until they pull their heads out of their asses and realize they're wasting their ****ing money alienating their source of revenue. :hopping:

Btw, if they wanted to stop file sharing (Ha!) shouldn't they have targeted ripping from the start? It has to get onto your computer first.
Title: More RIAA silliness
Post by: Corsair on August 16, 2005, 05:27:17 pm: *gets out the flamethrower*

I don't understand what's wrong with ripping a CD. It's yours. You bought it. Sure, I suppose you could misuse it but you can misuse just about anything that has a perfectly legal, innocent function. You could buy a pizza and then stuff some guy's face in the burning hot grease, for which he could probably get you arrested for assault if he really wanted to.
Title: More RIAA silliness
Post by: Kosh on August 16, 2005, 05:29:27 pm: Quote
LOL This means they will be going for the 'Rip' menu is Media Player, RIAA vs Microsoft.... could be interesting

I never though I would hear myself saying this but M$ would be the lesser of two evils.

Since they both seem to have bottomless pockets it would be a very interesting court case.........
Title: More RIAA silliness
Post by: phreak on August 16, 2005, 05:31:33 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Maeglamor
[color=66ff00]Pretty comprehensive list here: Link (www.boycott-riaa.com/membership)
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Good, century media and nuclear blast aren't on there. all that i really cared about :)
Title: More RIAA silliness
Post by: Mongoose on August 16, 2005, 09:07:53 pm: Wait...so P2P networks provide some sort of "danger"? :lol: Here's a question: what about the dangers of letting *******s like the RIAA have free rein in the courts? Guess they haven't realized it, but the more they press their "successful" campaign, the more business they'll lose, and the worse off they'll be. Pity they're not bright enough to realize this; they'll just have to learn the hard way.
Title: More RIAA silliness
Post by: redmenace on August 16, 2005, 09:29:16 pm: I own all the music I play rip and burn. So they don't want me to do that at all because some teenager is downloading crap 50 Cent and Green Day Songs? ****
Title: More RIAA silliness
Post by: Solatar on August 16, 2005, 09:37:10 pm: Quote
Originally posted by PhReAk

Good, century media and nuclear blast aren't on there. all that i really cared about :)

Same here basically, but I still don't know why Opeth went with Roadrunner records for Ghost Reveries, because there is no way I'm not getting that CD.:p
Title: More RIAA silliness
Post by: IceFire on August 16, 2005, 11:45:03 pm: 1) CD's are more expensive than they need to be
2) Indie bands are distributing their music online anyways...leave the midman behind
3) Ripping CD's is so you can keep em on your hard drive and put them on your MP3 player....this isn't a bad thing - this is what people buy music for
4) Apple has made a killing on iTunes...take a hint...people will pay if the method is right
5) Right and wrong - RIAA is misrepresenting the situation...who is right and who is wrong exactly?
6) The old studio lable/artist/industry system is outdated...roll over

I'm waiting for these guys to finally realize that nobody else is listening to them seriously anymore. Decline in CD sales is not linked, never was, and the problems lie elsewhere.
Title: More RIAA silliness
Post by: Annorax on August 17, 2005, 01:14:38 am: Quote
Originally posted by redmenace
I own all the music I play rip and burn. So they don't want me to do that at all because some teenager is downloading crap 50 Cent and Green Day Songs? ****

Basically. But their lawyers remind me of some kind of weird genetic mutation born from two parts Bill Gates, three parts Jack Valenti, and five parts Brunt (http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/library/character/bio/1071384.html). My ISP got pissed enough about me downloading one CD that they sent a guy here to ***** me out and try to get money out of me. I showed him my legitimately bought copy of that CD, scratched beyond use, showed him the single backup copy I burned, and he promptly left, never to be heard from again.
Title: More RIAA silliness
Post by: aldo_14 on August 17, 2005, 04:32:10 am: Oddly enough, I've got an interview with a music rights company on Friday. They're a spinoff from the AIM (association of Independent Musicians) handling online rights for a bunch of indie labels and bands.

As far as I can tell, they're Good Guys.
Title: More RIAA silliness
Post by: Rictor on August 17, 2005, 07:45:02 am: Quote
Originally posted by Ford Prefect
My entire music library is made up of ripped CDs that [l]I[/l] someone else paid money for. If they go after CD ripping, I'm going to light someone on fire.

Fixed your typo.
Title: More RIAA silliness
Post by: EtherShock on August 17, 2005, 12:33:46 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Annorax
My ISP got pissed enough about me downloading one CD that they sent a guy here to ***** me out and try to get money out of me. I showed him my legitimately bought copy of that CD, scratched beyond use, showed him the single backup copy I burned, and he promptly left, never to be heard from again.

You mean they actually came to your door? I never heard of ISPs getting pissed over that before, must be a small one.
Title: More RIAA silliness
Post by: Ford Prefect on August 17, 2005, 01:05:52 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Rictor
Fixed your typo.

Sorry, I don't get it. Care to explain?
Title: More RIAA silliness
Post by: aldo_14 on August 17, 2005, 03:55:35 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Ford Prefect

Sorry, I don't get it. Care to explain?

I think he's implying some form of P2P malarky or CD copying, rather than perhaps buying tunes off the net and burning, or simply having backups.
Title: More RIAA silliness
Post by: pyro-manic on August 17, 2005, 04:08:38 pm: Or, in fact, buying them, you know, in a shop. :eek: Crazy idea, I know, but some of us still do it...
Title: More RIAA silliness
Post by: aldo_14 on August 17, 2005, 04:16:01 pm: Sho-op?

To be honest, I still prefer buying CDs to even digital freebies. something to do with touch and the nice fuzzy feeling of having a big stack of 'em. Mostly it's wee bands nowadays, so I think I'm not giving the evil bigcorps too much money :D

I'm a sucker for special editions, too. Like, the ones with free DVDs and stuff.

Spoiler:
Whee! 15 thousand.
Title: More RIAA silliness
Post by: pyro-manic on August 17, 2005, 04:23:20 pm: Hell, I buy vinyl (mostly rather obscure bands from tiny labels). Now that's a nice feeling, opening a parcel and seeing cover art a foot wide... :thepimp:

EDIT: Stuff like this, in fact.

(http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/4012/records9ch.jpg)

The vinyl (the "Mighty and Superior" EP by Isen Torr) on the right is one of only 333 copies in the world. It also helps that it's one of the finest records I've ever heard... ;)
Title: More RIAA silliness
Post by: phreak on August 17, 2005, 06:03:22 pm: Nevermore - This Godless Endeavor    10.00 USD - Kicks ass
Sepultura - Beneath The Remains    13.00 USD - Kicks ass
Death - Human    12.00 USD - Kicks ass
In Flames - Whoracle (U.S. Deluxe Ed.)    12.00 USD - Kicks ass

lol - Sep was the most expensive since they're on RRR

going to pre-order the Atheist re-relases soon (out in a few weeks) for 12/each :horns: - alot better than the $100 i saw on amazon last year.
Title: More RIAA silliness
Post by: pyro-manic on August 17, 2005, 06:09:29 pm: Oooh, my copy of This Godless Endeavour should be here tomorrow or friday. The new Demons & Wizards as well. Can't wait....
Title: More RIAA silliness
Post by: Annorax on August 17, 2005, 06:13:28 pm: Quote
Originally posted by EtherShock

You mean they actually came to your door? I never heard of ISPs getting pissed over that before, must be a small one.

Small and moronic. These are the same assfaces who sent a cease and decist email ordering me to stop downloading FS2. I did not comply.
Title: More RIAA silliness
Post by: pyro-manic on August 17, 2005, 06:14:26 pm: Sounds like you need to find a new ISP, if they're prying into your surfing habits...
Title: More RIAA silliness
Post by: phreak on August 17, 2005, 08:09:11 pm: Quote
Originally posted by pyro-manic
Oooh, my copy of This Godless Endeavour should be here tomorrow or friday.

The first three tracks are worth it. The other 8 are also awesome.
Title: More RIAA silliness
Post by: Annorax on August 18, 2005, 12:19:57 am: Quote
Originally posted by pyro-manic
Sounds like you need to find a new ISP, if they're prying into your surfing habits...

City-granted monopoly. :( If I want to get away from them, the best I can do is 28.8kb/s dialup that usually gets something more like 3kb.
Title: More RIAA silliness
Post by: pyro-manic on August 18, 2005, 03:50:03 am: :eek2: That's appalling! Have you looked into cable and the like? There has to be a way around it...
Title: More RIAA silliness
Post by: aldo_14 on August 18, 2005, 06:56:17 am: Maybe he lives in the North Pole or outer Mongolia?
Title: More RIAA silliness
Post by: Kazan on August 18, 2005, 08:10:31 am: pyro he said city-granted monopoly - that means he's either on DSL or Cable and the other option is not available

city-granted monopolies are not always bad - just usually bad.

you have to make the tersm of their granted monopoly threatening if they don't deliver the quality
Title: More RIAA silliness
Post by: aldo_14 on August 18, 2005, 08:16:07 am: Quote
Originally posted by Kazan

you have to make the tersm of their granted monopoly threatening if they don't deliver the money

Corrected for the cities view :D