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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: MicroPsycho on August 18, 2005, 11:47:53 am

Title: Reading the EULA
Post by: MicroPsycho on August 18, 2005, 11:47:53 am
Most, if not all software nowadays has a licence agreement that you have to agree to in order to use that software. Now, I'm just curious, does anyone actually read the EULA or do you just select "I Agree" so you can get at the software.
Title: Reading the EULA
Post by: pyro-manic on August 18, 2005, 12:00:28 pm
I agree and move on. If I've actually acquired the software, then I'm not going to take it back because using it would upset some lawyer somewhere...
Title: Reading the EULA
Post by: Primus on August 18, 2005, 12:00:33 pm
Read the EULA? :lol: I know I should read it, but... :lol:
Title: Reading the EULA
Post by: Kamikaze on August 18, 2005, 12:12:26 pm
Most of the EULAs I encounter are just GPL licenses anyway. :p

If I use proprietary software I'll read the EULA though.
Title: Reading the EULA
Post by: karajorma on August 18, 2005, 12:32:55 pm
If you read them you're bound by their rules much more than if you simply ignore them. Legally speaking EULA aren't worth the time it takes them to write them out.
Title: Reading the EULA
Post by: Kosh on August 18, 2005, 12:34:24 pm
Since most of my software is pirated, I figure why read it when I am breaking it anyway?
Title: Reading the EULA
Post by: Charismatic on August 18, 2005, 12:40:07 pm
Lol. Why read it anyways. I didnt know what it was till i read this thread. Not like they are going to find you and catch you breaking some dam rule somwhere and throw you in jail.

Its confuseing and tainted (tm) anyways.
Title: Reading the EULA
Post by: Kosh on August 18, 2005, 12:43:17 pm
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Its confuseing and tainted (tm) anyways.


It was probably written by lawyers, what do you expect? :p
Title: Reading the EULA
Post by: EtherShock on August 18, 2005, 12:50:56 pm
I have a friend that reads them for his sadistic entertainment, but me? Never! Information wants to be free, yo.
Title: Reading the EULA
Post by: Martinus on August 18, 2005, 12:55:00 pm
[color=66ff00]As far as I'm aware no EULA has ever held up in court and some law types have speculated that a few of them are illegal; they impose restrictions on the user that are against the law.

Considering that some game shops over here won't even take a PC game back from you if it has been opened you have to ask yourself 'what happens when I disagree with the EULA?'. Unless you can sell it on you've got a rather pricey coaster.
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Title: Reading the EULA
Post by: TopAce on August 18, 2005, 01:04:53 pm
I never read the EULA - too long and hard to follow.
Title: Reading the EULA
Post by: Primus on August 18, 2005, 01:05:54 pm
I don't fully remember how it went, but I read somewhere, that it might say in EULA that the software will install some extra stuff on your PC.
Title: Reading the EULA
Post by: Flipside on August 18, 2005, 01:09:56 pm
EULA's aren't worth the disk-space they take up, several Trading Standards-like agencies have told companies this several times, the law isn't what you say it is, you cannot say 'By clicking this button you are agreeing to our terms', considering you have already paid however much for the right to use that software, the moment the money exchanged hands, you both became subject to the trading standards of whichever coutry you are in.

It is at the point of exchange that the agreement is made, not after they've got your money, no agreement signed under Duress (which is what it effectively adds up to) is binding.

And if the EULA says it installs software, which is not vital to the product, and you cannot stop the installation, are, strictly speaking, breaking the law by placing unsolicited content on your computer, which falls under the new anti-spam rules.
Title: Reading the EULA
Post by: Corsair on August 18, 2005, 02:01:45 pm
I get bored... so no. Agree, move on, save time and live longer.
Title: Reading the EULA
Post by: Annorax on August 19, 2005, 12:53:47 am
Yeah, I read them. You'd be surprised what some companies sneak in there. I've seen one that includes you agreeing to a subSeven infection...
Title: Reading the EULA
Post by: Sandwich on August 19, 2005, 03:02:30 am
Look what we would have discovered back in 1999 had people read the FS2 EULA (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,10328.msg189541.html#msg189541).
Title: Reading the EULA
Post by: Nuke on August 19, 2005, 03:13:36 am
i try to hit the no button but it seems i always accidently click the i agree button even though i didnt ever want to agree to their crap. they need to make those eulas more user friendly :D