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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: redmenace on August 28, 2005, 09:00:05 am
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http://apnews.myway.com/article/20050828/D8C8JGIG0.html
Is it me or are people in general loosing the ability to know when and where to have protests. Not that I agree with the statements made by the minister, but geeze. What a bunch of retards. There is a time and a place to protest; a service man's funeral is not one of them. Sigh, no respect. :(
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"God is punishing America for harboring Gays?"
What a buncha morons. I feel an urge to do them harm. So what, they're saying if there were no gays in the U.S., no American soldier would die in Iraq?
I reconsider my previous position. Religion needs to be abolished. BEGIN THE PURGE!
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SMYRNA, Tenn. (AP) - Members of a church say God is punishing American soldiers for defending a country that harbors gays, and they brought their anti-gay message to the funerals Saturday of two Tennessee soldiers killed in Iraq.
What the hell? Now thats just stupid. Those people are idiots.
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I think we know who might have been burning those flags now.
Bunch of f**king morons.
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No, this ("http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4192662.stm") is the end of civility.
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That's bloody Fred Phelps. This guy has the "protest outside funerals" thing down to an art. In the early nineties, this dickhead was protesting outside the funerals of gay men who had died from AIDS (Because GOD HATES TEH ***S).
If I ever got this guy in arms' reach, I'd gladly go to jail for aggravated assault. He's evil.
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I know exactly where they should aim the 10 gun salute.
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Five minutes' immunity from prosecution... that's all I ask...
And a large steel pipe, of course.
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Yeah it's the Gays that are the problem.
Originally posted by aldo_14
I know exactly where they should aim the 10 gun salute.
:yes:
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What a dickhead. Sucks Smyrna is only a 30 minute drive away from where I live. If I ever happen upon this little ****...
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Originally posted by Rictor
No, this ("http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4192662.stm") is the end of civility.
No, that's pretty much how parenting's been going on for quite awhile.
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'The Rev. Fred Phelps, founder of Westboro Baptist in Kansas, contends that American soldiers are being killed in Iraq as vengeance from God for protecting a country that harbors gays. The church, which is not affiliated with a larger denomination, is made up mostly of Phelps' children, grandchildren and in-laws.'
Ahhh.. it's one of those churches - 'Homosexuality is Evil but Incest is merely increasing the flock' ;)
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He's a utterly dumb dickhead and idiot.
But best not to sink to his level. Don't show a level of hate that surpases his.
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It's more pity than hate.
Because it can't help but strike me these people spend their lives wanting to find ways in which the world is 'wrong' according to their little twisted set of beliefs, which is simply a miserable way to live. If they'd open up to the way the world works, to the diversity of humanity, then they'd be... well, not exactly happy, but at less less of a bunch of moany wankers.
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Originally posted by TrashMan
He's a utterly dumb dickhead and idiot.
But best not to sink to his level. Don't show a level of hate that surpases his.
I dunno. I don't HATE the guy. I just think the world would get along better without him. My desire to bugger him with a chainsaw is really just an attempt to make the world a better, saner, cleaner place.
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Maybe God is punishing America for harboring Fred Phelps? :nervous:
Look at it this way, he's old, he'll die, and then I think they should have a Gay Pride festival outside his Funeral ;)
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He can believe whatever he wants, and protest if he wishes, but doing so outside the funeral of a deceased man is wrong and disrespectful. I think he should be punished (along with tons of other "Christians") for even thinking about calling himself a follower of Jesus Christ.
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Originally posted by Flipside
Maybe God is punishing America for harboring Fred Phelps? :nervous:
Look at it this way, he's old, he'll die, and then I think they should have a Gay Pride festival outside his Funeral ;)
And put pink flowers on his grave.
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Originally posted by Flipside
Maybe God is punishing America for harboring Fred Phelps? :nervous:
Why not? If I was god, I'm sure I'd be raining holy fire left and right for allowing that guy to breed.
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But you can't take a man away from his children!!!111one
:p
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Although I've honestly detested the man for years (basically since he registered "godhatesfags.com" and chose to host it at the webhosting company that employed me as an administrator), I never really knew what a complete and utter nutcase he was. He might just make Pat Robertson look sane, intelligent and--I shudder to think it--lovable.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Phelps
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Originally posted by StratComm
But you can't take a man away from his children!!!111one
:p
His children deserve painful torture almost as much as he does.
Almost.
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Originally posted by Jetmech Jr.
His children deserve painful torture almost as much as he does.
Almost.
They already get painfully tortured by him, anyways.........
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Yes, but not enough to excuse their actions, either:
Originally from Wikipedia
Many of the Phelps children who remain at Westboro openly admit to using physical violence against their children; Phelps' son, Jonathan, boasted to the Topeka Capital Journal in 1994 that he regularly beat his wife, Betty, and his children. On occasion members of the church have dared police and government officials to try and take legal action against them.
:no:
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see, sometimes you simply need a tactical nuke.
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Eh, I'm sure his cockroaches aren't tolerable either. So to correct you there Bob, a tactical nuke and whatever the hell coats the floors of this dorm.
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I believe I have the perfect quote for this.
"Some people are alive only because it is illegal to kill them."
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I find the Wikipedia talk page for the article on Phelps amusing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Fred_Phelps
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I've heard of Religious Whack-jobs before, but this is just insane.
God punishing troops because gays live here?
Gays are everywhere. Why isn't god smiting other foreign armies?
Hm....
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Good lord, Kami, that talk page opens with the most vitriolic comment I've seen on the wikipedia.
When he dies, which can't be that far away, everyone is invited to my house for a glass of sherry.
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Phelps also wrote a book in the 1980s with his son-in-law, Brent D. Roper, called "The Conspiracy." In the book, Roper and Phelps claim to possess evidence that: AIDS spontaneously generated in Africa; Truman Capote contracted the disease during an orgy with African tribesmen; Capote then gave the disease to John F. Kennedy and Robert Kennedy by playing football with them; that John F. Kennedy and Robert Kennedy had a menage a trois with Marilyn Monroe and gave her the disease; and that the CIA assassinated all three to prevent the spread of the disease.
What a f**king idiot.
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Please, kara - that's an insult to idiots everywhere.
Now, it may be illegal to kill him - is it illegal to build a really big wall round his house and those of his parishoners?
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If you consider denying him easy access to a computer to be in the interest of the public good... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eminent_domain)
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Originally posted by mikhael
I dunno. I don't HATE the guy. I just think the world would get along better without him. My desire to bugger him with a chainsaw is really just an attempt to make the world a better, saner, cleaner place.
And I'm sure his idea to bugger gays with a chainsawis his attmpt to make a world a better place (in his ****ed-up mind)..
As much as it is distasefull that twisted people like him and many others are actually alive and allowed to do things like this, beating the crap out of them isn't the long-term answer (alltough they would deserve it)
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i need to start a reeducation camp for these sorts of people
one that uses brainwashing and torture and lots of other wonderful things to turn these people around from evil to good.
it is bad to live in a narrow mindset and see the world as horribly wrong
is it worse to have an informed, somewhat broader mindset and still see the world as horribly wrong?
ive got to go change the world or something
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Originally posted by TrashMan
And I'm sure his idea to bugger gays with a chainsawis his attmpt to make a world a better place (in his ****ed-up mind)..
As much as it is distasefull that twisted people like him and many others are actually alive and allowed to do things like this, beating the crap out of them isn't the long-term answer (alltough they would deserve it)
Yes, but you miss the obvious difference: I'm Right (tm).*
* That and I like to use exaggeration to humorous effect, whereas Phelps likes to use it to rancorous effect.
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phelps is... unique.
and he's supposedly coming to sweden, I've heard. I wonder why, though, he hates us. I 'hope' he doesn't get 'hurt'.
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Apparently your royal family are all disease ridden. No idea why that's connected to him hating Sweden but that's what he's claiming.
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I find it amusing he's been banned from Canada. I mean, seriously...they've threatened to arrest him should he attempt to enter the country. In Canada. When you can't go to Canada anymore you're really starting to run out of options...
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Also, the length and incoherence of many of his recent sermons, as well as a large number of bizarre claims (including "George Bush worships Mr. Peanut, whose name is the great God Goober"),
Is there something the admin haven't told us?:nervous:
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LOL
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Originally posted by kode
phelps is... unique.
and he's supposedly coming to sweden, I've heard. I wonder why, though, he hates us. I 'hope' he doesn't get 'hurt'.
Your government arrested a minister for preaching homophobia from the pulpit. Though the guy was released later, this action has prompted Phelps to decry Sweden on one of his websites thusly:
[homosexuals] have a 3 point agenda: 1) decriminalize sodomy, 2) add [homosexuals] to the protected classes as victims like blacks, and 3) criminalize Gospel preaching against [homosexuals]. Sweden's doom is now irreversible!
With the arrest of Ake Green, Swedes have allowed the filthy sodomite agenda to be completely fulfilled. See our monument to Pastor Green here. Just because Green's conviction has been overturned, don't think that makes things right! The fact that the vast majority of the Swedish population either sat by silently while this rape of justice took place, or actually applauded it, solidifies the idea that Sweden is a land of the damned.
Just because Green preaches the doctrine of devils that "God loves everyone" doesn't make it right for Sweden to arrest him for also preaching that [homosexuals] are an abomination (Lev. 18:22).
With this act, as well as the vitriolic response given to this preaching, Sweden has drawn to it the wrath and mocking of God!
Dude. Nutcase.
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With this act, as well as the vitriolic response given to this preaching, Sweden has drawn to it the wrath and mocking of God!
There's only one thing being mocked here, and it sure as hell ain't Sweden :hammer:.
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so... this guy says homosexuality is bad yet beating his wife and kids is okay? sth partaken of willingly as opposed to not?
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[color=66ff00]Something just struck me about the idea of the death of civility.
Surely the fairly clear negative response to the actions of this guy in this thread would suggest that civility is alive and well?
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well in retrospect, I have seen a decline in civility. Especially with the Iraq war and such.
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Originally posted by redmenace
well in retrospect, I have seen a decline in civility. Especially with the Iraq war and such.
[color=66ff00]The Iraq war was an exercise in brainwashing facilitated by the media. You think if the protests had got the same level of coverage as the war it would still be going on?
A small number of bad people used their influence to sway a large number of uneducated people in order to make money.
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actualy the protests did get a lot of coverage, it seemed to help actualy.
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Originally posted by mikhael
Your government arrested a minister for preaching homophobia from the pulpit. Though the guy was released later, this action has prompted Phelps to decry Sweden on one of his websites thusly:
Sounds like Sweden alright, no offence intended. They're rather harsh on the ol' civil liberties.
Though I wonder if it has ever occured to Phelps that going to a country which has just prosecuted a priest of preaching what I must only assume is mild in comparison to Phelps' own rhetoric probably isn't the smartest thing to do.
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Originally posted by Bobboau
actualy the protests did get a lot of coverage, it seemed to help actualy.
I dunno....... a lot of use only really knew about protests in our own country. How much did we see of (being mostly UK/US) the protests in Cairo, Istandbul, Oviedo, Belfast, Calcutta, Sao Paolo, Seville, Damascus etc? Over a million people marched in London - but how much coverage was given to the 100,000 in Dublic, or the 80,000 in Glasgow. Hell, there was even a (understandably small - 50 people) protest at McMurdo Station in the artic.
How much coverage was there of the protests in March this year? Apparently MSBC gave the number in London as 10,000 - police gave it as 45,000, for example.
But it's not mentioned all that often. Even on the beeb, which was otherwise excellent in its fair-handed coverage of the war and the buildup.
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Originally posted by aldo_14
But it's not mentioned all that often. Even on the beeb, which was otherwise excellent in its fair-handed coverage of the war and the buildup.
Remember what happened to the Director General's office after that period though. That would explain the shift.
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I was thinking the protests during the build up, and no matter what happend they never served to diswade people, in fact we started getting people protesting the protests. during this time those of us suporting the war were convinveced due to amung other reasons that old political rivals to Bush (Clinton, Gore, Kerry) had said the same thing in the past that he was now saying and to many it seemed the only reason they changed there minds was because a republican was now saying it, and the fact that if he was wrong it was going to not only destroy him but the rest of the republican party, it is a mirical that he got reelected, only the democrats complete and utter ineptitude at provideing a decent alternative prevented his loss, mark my words the republicans are going to start looseing power starting next election.
now you have 60-70% of the people absolutely convinced that there is at least a huge stockpile of chemical weapons in Iraq and that he is fully capable and motivated to use them, if you start showing protestors all your going to do is make these people definceive and thicker skulled, and that is just what happened, the more people protest the firmer the suport for the war became. it wasn't untill a year later and we haddn't found a drop, or a single peice of paper to justify the war that suport began to wane, and the only reason people suport it now is basicly either a 'we need to clean up our mess' mentality or recognition that a large number of people we should have been fighter have moved in to were we were fighting. prety much no one thinks in retrospect that invadeing Iraq was such a great idea, and now were just trying to fix as much of the damage we caused as we posably can.
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http://www.nola.com/newslogs/breakingtp/index.ssf?/mtlogs/nola_Times-Picayune/archives/2005_08.html#075195
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:rolleyes:
wrong thread?
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No, people being greedy little bastards.
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Welcome to the real world..........people are bastards. Only thing you can do is take the good ones, and try to get by the bad ones.
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Originally posted by mikhael
Your government arrested a minister for preaching homophobia from the pulpit. Though the guy was released later, this action has prompted Phelps to decry Sweden on one of his websites thusly:
yeah, I know. Åke Green (who was the one arrested) doesn't really like phelps either.