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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Kazan on August 14, 2001, 07:07:00 pm

Title: Look, I'm Setekh
Post by: Kazan on August 14, 2001, 07:07:00 pm: (http://alliance.sourceforge.net/images/Duel.jpg)

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Title: Look, I'm Setekh
Post by: Kazan on August 14, 2001, 07:12:00 pm: and yes i know the lighting is incorrect.. and as for the neb - i like it someone was complaining about it being a single color

[edit] ooh... ooh i see a truespace f-up in the hecate.. didn't notice it until i was staring at the image for 5 minutes

[This message has been edited by Kazan (edited 08-14-2001).]
Title: Look, I'm Setekh
Post by: Itsara on August 14, 2001, 07:31:00 pm: I think the neb looks great. Cool beams too. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: Look, I'm Setekh
Post by: Taristin on August 14, 2001, 07:37:00 pm: Kudos Kazan! And thx for the beam making lesson! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
Title: Look, I'm Setekh
Post by: Shrike on August 14, 2001, 07:40:00 pm: And there's no explosion from the beam hitting the Ravana.
Title: Look, I'm Setekh
Post by: Taristin on August 14, 2001, 07:43:00 pm: And no bump mapping, hehe
Title: Look, I'm Setekh
Post by: Itsara on August 14, 2001, 08:44:00 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Shrike:
And there's no explosion from the beam hitting the Ravana.

O yea, didnt notice that.
Title: Look, I'm Setekh
Post by: Kazan on August 14, 2001, 10:49:00 pm: Shrike: i can't do explosions yet [wait.. i can do stills... grr. That's a frame from my one animation (BeamFight) with the background and cam angle changed]
Title: Look, I'm Setekh
Post by: QXMX on August 14, 2001, 11:26:00 pm: That's leaps and bounds ahead of my skillz. Looks cool man (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Title: Look, I'm Setekh
Post by: Carl on August 14, 2001, 11:57:00 pm: very happy looking
Title: Look, I'm Setekh
Post by: Vertigo1 on August 15, 2001, 12:15:00 am: Kazan: Particles would work wonders for the "explosion". (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

What would really make it look more like a big fight is if those big guns on top were firing.

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Title: Look, I'm Setekh
Post by: Carl on August 15, 2001, 12:45:00 am: Quote
Originally posted by Kazan:
(http://alliance.sourceforge.net/images/Duel.jpg)

looks like someone visited the flaming pear website.
Title: Look, I'm Setekh
Post by: Kazan on August 15, 2001, 12:51:00 am: yepq
Title: Look, I'm Setekh
Post by: Jabu on August 15, 2001, 12:58:00 am: Very nice. Though I think the background looks so good it takes the focus away from the action (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)
Title: Look, I'm Setekh
Post by: Akira on August 15, 2001, 02:47:00 am: A duel between a Ravana and a Hecate ain't much of a duel, more like slaughter. I think you know which one will be doing the slaughtering, and if you don't, then why are you here and not playin fs2?

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Title: Look, I'm Setekh
Post by: Fineus on August 15, 2001, 03:18:00 am: As people have already pointed out theres room for improvement, and I don't understand the "Setekh" reference?
Title: Look, I'm Setekh
Post by: Shrike on August 15, 2001, 04:00:00 am: Cause he's making renders, I suppose.
Title: Look, I'm Setekh
Post by: Setekh on August 15, 2001, 07:22:00 am: Doesn't look too shabby, especially since that is part of a motion sequence. Less obvious about the lighting is that the Hecate should be very dark, contrasted against the star that is right behind it.
Title: Look, I'm Setekh
Post by: Kazan on August 15, 2001, 08:31:00 am: Yeah... i just wanted to play with my new toys (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
Title: Look, I'm Setekh
Post by: Nico on August 15, 2001, 08:32:00 am: Quote
Originally posted by Setekh:
the Hecate should be very dark, contrasted against the star that is right behind it.

yup, and since the star is red, everthing should be red too. Is it possible to do that in TS, with an ambient light or something?
Title: Look, I'm Setekh
Post by: Kazan on August 15, 2001, 08:34:00 am: the star halo is red.. looke at the rest of it

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Title: Look, I'm Setekh
Post by: Taristin on August 15, 2001, 08:41:00 am: Quote
Originally posted by venom2506:
yup, and since the star is red, everthing should be red too. Is it possible to do that in TS, with an ambient light or something?

Yea, I usually wind up with blue all over the Nike when I do beam glows because I was an idiot who didn't know what he was doing, hehe So, yea you can.
Title: Look, I'm Setekh
Post by: Kazan on August 15, 2001, 08:45:00 am: I explained my beam technique to him.. he shouldn't have that problem anymore
Title: Look, I'm Setekh
Post by: Nico on August 15, 2001, 09:18:00 am: Quote
Originally posted by Kazan:
the star halo is red.. looke at the rest of it

when I see a star with a white core and a red halo, to me it looks like a red star really bright in the middle. if the halo is red, there's a reason, no?
Title: Look, I'm Setekh
Post by: Nico on August 15, 2001, 09:19:00 am: Quote
Originally posted by Kazan:
the star halo is red.. looke at the rest of it

when I see a star with a white core and a red halo, to me it looks like a red star really bright in the middle. if the halo is red, there's a reason, no?
Title: Look, I'm Setekh
Post by: Kazan on August 15, 2001, 09:20:00 am: just because the star is red doesn't mean it's light casting is noticably red - like our star all the incoming light here we call white light
Title: Look, I'm Setekh
Post by: Kazan on August 15, 2001, 09:36:00 am: Eat me (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

(http://alliance.sourceforge.net/images/Patrol.jpg)

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Title: Look, I'm Setekh
Post by: Nico on August 15, 2001, 09:40:00 am: Quote
Originally posted by Kazan:
just because the star is red doesn't mean it's light casting is noticably red - like our star all the incoming light here we call white light

that's because of atmoshere. In a space scene, there's not atmosphere to modify the light spectrum. I've seen pics of nebulaes next to red giants, well, the nebulae is redish. Bah, anyway, that's not really important if you have the shadows where they're supposed to be.
Title: Look, I'm Setekh
Post by: Taristin on August 15, 2001, 10:39:00 am: Quote
Originally posted by Kazan:
Eat me (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

Bump Map (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

Sorry, I couldn't resist... hehe
Title: Look, I'm Setekh
Post by: Fineus on August 15, 2001, 11:46:00 am: Very nice second one Kazan, something to try... engine glows behind the ship and lowering the contrast on the nebulas - no nebula I know looks like that (although if you look at my earlier renders they looked like that but after a lot of moaning (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif) from everyone else I slowly dropped the contrast and got a better looking effect).
Title: Look, I'm Setekh
Post by: Kazan on August 15, 2001, 12:32:00 pm: thanks for the tip

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"Why Climb it?" - "Because it's there."
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Alliance Productions ("http://alliance.sourceforge.net")
Title: Look, I'm Setekh
Post by: Kazan on August 15, 2001, 07:58:00 pm: bump [for people to see the second image]
Title: Look, I'm Setekh
Post by: Fineus on August 16, 2001, 01:07:00 am: Oh yeah - if you really want (helpful nit-picking) then take a look at the lighting, as you can see from the planet it's only half illuminated, so the ship should be to (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: Look, I'm Setekh
Post by: Kazan on August 16, 2001, 09:34:00 am: I set the lighting the same was in truespace... it just didn't behave how i wanted
Title: Look, I'm Setekh
Post by: Kazan on August 16, 2001, 10:10:00 am: here you go - two versions of the a hecate firing. different lighting conditions [remembered to switch on "Cast shadows" for the light this time]

(http://alliance.sourceforge.net/images/HecateFire.jpg)
(http://alliance.sourceforge.net/images/HecateFire2.jpg)
Title: Look, I'm Setekh
Post by: Kazan on August 16, 2001, 06:25:00 pm: bump
Title: Look, I'm Setekh
Post by: Shrike on August 16, 2001, 07:18:00 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Kazan:
just because the star is red doesn't mean it's light casting is noticably red - like our star all the incoming light here we call white light

Yeah it does. It just happens that to us, the light cast by the sun is natural. But if the spectrum peak is redshifted significantly, well, it'll look redish. I could go on about blackbody curves and **** , but I won't. I'll just say 'trust me.' (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
Title: Look, I'm Setekh
Post by: Kazan on August 16, 2001, 08:00:00 pm: Ok AstroPhysics Boy
Title: Look, I'm Setekh
Post by: Martinus on August 18, 2001, 07:35:00 am: Quote
Originally posted by Shrike:
Yeah it does. It just happens that to us, the light cast by the sun is natural. But if the spectrum peak is redshifted significantly, well, it'll look redish. I could go on about blackbody curves and **** , but I won't. I'll just say 'trust me.' (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

I'd trust him, my friend has a degree in astrophysics and he agrees with this. Actually he's doing research into star density, he's a clever guy (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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