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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Kazan on September 14, 2005, 07:58:51 pm

Title: Kazan's wishlist (mythTV box design)
Post by: Kazan on September 14, 2005, 07:58:51 pm
Please check it for compatability faux pas as it's been a while since I designed a box so i'm not familiar with a lot of newer stuff

http://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/Wishlist/WishShareShow.asp?ID=1672646&WishListTitle=KAZAN%27S+MYTHTV+BOX

Case: nMEDIAPC HTCP 100
Motherboard: Sis760GX based mobo includes with case
Processor: AMD Sempron 64 2500+
RAM: 512MB PC 3200
Video: Geforce FX5200 (insisted upon by the people, even the other ATI fanboys, on the mythTV-users mailing list.. it's a driver support thing)
Capture Cards:
* Hauppage PVR-500
* Kworld VS-TV878RF w/ remote, FM radio (already have)
Title: Kazan's wishlist (mythTV box design)
Post by: MatthewPapa on September 14, 2005, 08:10:09 pm
well i have that very same tv tuner and it works great...just remember to 'liberate' sagetv along with it.
Title: Kazan's wishlist (mythTV box design)
Post by: Kazan on September 14, 2005, 08:15:24 pm
SageTV... dude

mythTV is a program for linux that turns your box into a supertivo: http://www.mythtv.org/

(http://mythtv.sourceforge.net/mc/bluetvmenu.png)
(http://mythtv.sourceforge.net/mc/visorosdtwo.png)
(http://mythtv.sourceforge.net/mc/visorosdone.png)
(http://mythtv.sourceforge.net/mc/epgvideo.png)
(http://mythtv.sourceforge.net/mc/mpf1.png)
(http://mythtv.sourceforge.net/mc/deletegrab.png)
(http://mythtv.sourceforge.net/mc/gametwo.png)
(http://mythtv.sourceforge.net/mc/mweather1.png)
(http://mythtv.sourceforge.net/mc/mythdvd1.png)
(http://mythtv.sourceforge.net/mc/mythnews1.png)
Title: Kazan's wishlist (mythTV box design)
Post by: WMCoolmon on September 14, 2005, 08:46:19 pm
I gotta get me an external TV tunner that works with Linux. :eek2:
Title: Kazan's wishlist (mythTV box design)
Post by: Kazan on September 14, 2005, 08:53:15 pm
get an internal - probability of getting a working external is 500:1

http://cgi.ebay.com/HAUPPAUGE-WinTV-PVR-500-MCE-for-Media-Center-2005-NEW_W0QQitemZ5241147520QQcategoryZ3761QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

supported, recommended, single board dual-tuner - has onboard audio capture so you don't have to pass analogue cables to sound boards.
Title: Kazan's wishlist (mythTV box design)
Post by: mikhael on September 14, 2005, 09:03:48 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Kazan
SageTV... dude

mythTV is a program for linux that turns your box into a supertivo: http://www.mythtv.org/


Heh. The MythTV guy is from the city I'm moving to.
Title: Kazan's wishlist (mythTV box design)
Post by: WMCoolmon on September 14, 2005, 09:10:26 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Kazan
get an internal - probability of getting a working external is 500:1

http://cgi.ebay.com/HAUPPAUGE-WinTV-PVR-500-MCE-for-Media-Center-2005-NEW_W0QQitemZ5241147520QQcategoryZ3761QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

supported, recommended, single board dual-tuner - has onboard audio capture so you don't have to pass analogue cables to sound boards.


I have a very cramped case (http://www.deviantart.com/view/22110232/); it may simply not be practically possible to fit a TV card in, now that I've installed a PCI slot cooler.

Auction isn't working right now anyway.
Title: Kazan's wishlist (mythTV box design)
Post by: Kazan on September 14, 2005, 09:19:43 pm
if you have an open PCI slot you should have plenty of room
Title: Kazan's wishlist (mythTV box design)
Post by: WMCoolmon on September 14, 2005, 09:38:12 pm
I was forced to buy an extension cable for the power supply b/c the ATX connector wasn't long enough to reach the mobo, and some genius placed the LED/power button/etc connectors between a PCI slot and the back of the case, so I have to keep those in mind.

Plus I like keeping the system as minimalist as possible so there's less to restrict airflow, and it's not like I'll have much chance to use a tuner at a LAN party.
Title: Kazan's wishlist (mythTV box design)
Post by: Kazan on September 14, 2005, 09:49:30 pm
build a dedicated box like i'm going to (probably not going to build mine until new years)
Title: Kazan's wishlist (mythTV box design)
Post by: vyper on September 15, 2005, 07:32:35 am
The last time I bought a WinTv card it nuked, quite literally, my old graphics card. Any suggestions on a safe one?
Title: Kazan's wishlist (mythTV box design)
Post by: Kazan on September 15, 2005, 08:35:00 am
look at my design :D the PVR-500 is recommended by a lot of mythTV users
Title: Kazan's wishlist (mythTV box design)
Post by: Stealth on September 15, 2005, 11:26:57 am
dude, Kazan, that's badass...

i remember having a Hauppauge winTV card waaay back in the day, we're talking like 6 years ago almost.  setting up a dedicated box like this is genius though.  

soooooo what all do i need to get this working.  cable box, graphics card, etc.
Title: Kazan's wishlist (mythTV box design)
Post by: Kazan on September 15, 2005, 11:33:03 am
Basically you need a computer with enough beef in the processor to do the MPEG2 encodes and decodes you're going to do simultaneously - Hauppage PVR-500s (and a lot of the other PVR-XXXs) have onboard MPEG2 encode/decode which lowers your CPU requirement

you need a lot of harddrive space

a decent video card with TV out capability

a linux distro you're familiar with, and mythTV
Title: Kazan's wishlist (mythTV box design)
Post by: Col. Fishguts on September 15, 2005, 11:46:00 am
That's pretty badass and I would build me one of those myself..... but then again, there's nothing worth watching on TV here these days.
Title: Kazan's wishlist (mythTV box design)
Post by: Stealth on September 15, 2005, 03:08:12 pm
how does "mythtv" get the signal?  do i need to get a special card that leads from the cable box to the linux box?
Title: Kazan's wishlist (mythTV box design)
Post by: Grey Wolf on September 15, 2005, 03:15:14 pm
That's what the PVR-500 is for. It's basically the same as the cable boxes you had to put on top of old TVs, but fits in a PCI slot. The PVR line also features, as its name suggests, video recording features.
Title: Kazan's wishlist (mythTV box design)
Post by: WMCoolmon on September 15, 2005, 10:37:59 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Kazan
build a dedicated box like i'm going to (probably not going to build mine until new years)


I can't even get my DVDs to play smoothly on an Athlon64 2800+ with my new install of Kubuntu. Why on earth would I want to shell out ~$500 and the extra floor space for a new computer just to watch TV? :doubt:

I would be better off buying an LCD TV + DVR box for that much; I could bring up tvguide.com for the scheduling part.
Title: Kazan's wishlist (mythTV box design)
Post by: Grey Wolf on September 16, 2005, 12:09:59 am
Kubuntu can't even play DVDs properly on your computer? You sure you have it set up right?
Title: Kazan's wishlist (mythTV box design)
Post by: WMCoolmon on September 16, 2005, 12:43:22 am
Probably not. I had them working fine under Ubuntu with xine (which Kaffeine uses).

I just have to figure out where it isn't set up right.
Title: Kazan's wishlist (mythTV box design)
Post by: Descenterace on September 16, 2005, 01:45:32 am
One of my housemates is building a MythTV PVR. He should be moving in sometime tomorrow, so our PVR should be working by Sunday. Best thing: it's on our house LAN (80m of Cat5 cable laid by me, in my last five weeks of free time) so we can put all our music and video on it and enjoy all the benefits of a centralised media server.

Including being able to have incredible house parties, what with the uber-speakers being provided by another housemate.

PVR rocks.
Title: Kazan's wishlist (mythTV box design)
Post by: Kazan on September 16, 2005, 06:44:48 am
Kunbuntu and unbuntu are ****ty (i know, i tried them.. one of the guys at work uses it)

I stand by Fedora
Title: Kazan's wishlist (mythTV box design)
Post by: Descenterace on September 16, 2005, 01:27:09 pm
Can't stand it myself. It's alright if I don't have to maintain it (the University systems use Red Hat 9) but I wouldn't run it on my own system.