Post by: karajorma on September 16, 2005, 03:46:59 pm
BlackDove has posted transcript of the article here (http://207.38.10.121/~freespace/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=729269#post729269).
Post by: CptWhite on September 16, 2005, 05:08:12 pm
There we go :) It's also included on the cover DVD
Post by: Goober5000 on September 16, 2005, 06:01:05 pm
Considering how many people were introduced to FS via a coverdisc, this should provide a great boost in both exposure and audience. :)
Post by: PSI-KILLER on September 16, 2005, 07:44:48 pm
Post by: Bri_Dog on September 16, 2005, 07:56:13 pm
Did they put the entire TBP on the dvd?
Post by: Edwin on September 16, 2005, 08:49:08 pm
Post by: Lt.Cannonfodder on September 16, 2005, 10:41:08 pm
Post by: stithe2000 on September 17, 2005, 01:22:28 am
Post by: Ryx on September 17, 2005, 06:45:15 am
Post by: madaboutgames on September 17, 2005, 11:17:58 am
In light of this, i will post the first 6 missions (training missions) tomorrow, A mini campaign which starts with your training at the IO Transfer Point. This is great for poeple new to FS or the Babylon project, as we will have many newcommers it would be a great help to show people how to play it.
Post by: stithe2000 on September 17, 2005, 07:54:29 pm
:yes: Training Missions! :yes:
Post by: Black Wolf on September 18, 2005, 03:07:24 am
Post by: Fabbro on September 18, 2005, 05:22:12 am
Post by: Edwin on September 18, 2005, 09:15:34 am
and besides, Sierra has no reason not to be 'cool' with TBP, if they weren't a bunch of slacking pricks, we wouldn't need TBP
Post by: starbug on September 18, 2005, 09:51:36 am
Post by: madaboutgames on September 19, 2005, 04:00:29 pm
6 tutorial/training missions are now ready for download. These are the first 6 missions in the B5 heatemup campaign.
(http://www.b5heatemup.co.uk/IoTutorial.jpg)
Follow Training missions fred for more info
;) ;) ;)
www.b5heatemup.co.uk
Post by: ShockWave on September 20, 2005, 03:04:58 pm
Well, the PC Zone article has brought in at least one new player - me. Hurrah, etc. :) I'm spreading the word to as many space-combat-sim loving friends that I can think of... :)
Firstly, a big congratulations and thank you to everyon who's done a superb job on creating TBP, I've been playing it for a few days and it's superb.
Secondly, PC Zone helpfully (ha!) only included the core game files on the DVD, and neglected to include any missions or campaigns (although I'm guessing that this is because the missions & campaigns are the property of indivivual creators rather than "official" TBP files. Still, this leaves newbies like myself somewhat puzzled - can anyone recommend a good order to start playing the campaigns though? I've played Raider Wars and started Movements in the Mist, as well as playing a few individual missions, but I feel that I'm jumping around somewhat. Is there a recommended order?
Thanks
ShockWave
PS: madaboutgames - I'm just down the road from you, in Freckleton. Small world. :)
Post by: mic of orion on September 20, 2005, 03:31:40 pm
I played freelancer, and some cool ppl developed mods and you can buy Warlock destroyer or Minbari cruiser and play with hem, lol, but this is way cooler, hope I can also use my capitol ships as well as my fighters?
PS, my very first post here, new to the forum... :) :)
Post by: madaboutgames on September 20, 2005, 04:22:56 pm
Post by: karajorma on September 20, 2005, 06:07:00 pm
Simply pick one which interests you and get on with it. If none of them interest you cause you'd rather play a mission in a different time period remember that the editor used by the team to make those missions is included in the package you got on the DVD along with instructions on how to use it. :D
Welcome aboard Mic and Shockwave :D
Post by: Edwin on September 20, 2005, 07:16:52 pm
Post by: Sphynx on September 20, 2005, 07:26:00 pm
Post by: aipz on September 21, 2005, 12:18:35 am
This article is a good way to spread the TBP:yes:
:welcome:
If you have any questions first read through FAQ supplied with the game or the one on the project's website!
If that doesn't help - search the forums...
as many of these questions were answered there...
If your still confused than post your questions on the TBP forum and someone should give you the proper answer!
:welcome:
Post by: IPAndrews on September 21, 2005, 06:40:09 am
Post by: mic of orion on September 21, 2005, 10:11:16 am
I tried and played raiders campaign, just started, and felt I had very little in a way of manageability or able to hit anything, whether this was done to cose ppl felt more realism, or something, don't know, but it is one major downfall in this particular game mod... Had to reassign most of my keys and even than had trouble, I played Freespace 2 and this mod comes not even close to Freespace 2 manageability or controls, even thought it is based on same engine.
If you overcomplicate the game with such nonsense it want become popular other than B5 community, If this game is targeted only at B5 community, ...
I felt this game has loads going for it, and missions can be added as we go, but they want be fun if you don't sort this issue asp, and I don't know if I am the only one here, but to get great review in a computer mag or website you do need to have great game all round...
Mouse should not be used for shooting things but more often for more complicated manoeuvring or direct flight (as it is in Freespace 2), space bar and enter are good for shooting...
This are just small hints I found thus far, don't get me wrong I am great fan of B5 and this only reason I got this game in first place, but it is becoming clear to me it will not attract ppl unless this rather simple issues are resolved..
Sorry for slight criticism I know I am new to this forum, but I had to say it, cose game pised me off, I had spent like hour reassigning my keys, sorry I don't have 2 right hands to fly and shoot at the same time... think of basic issues here..
Post by: madaboutgames on September 21, 2005, 10:24:43 am
Keys are a thing of the past as controllers now is a standard for any gaming wether it be pc or console.
If you find raider wars a bit hard then check out my tutorial/training campaign missions. This should ease you into it with good direction and good tips in dogfighting.
Post by: karajorma on September 21, 2005, 10:30:08 am
Post by: Bobboau on September 21, 2005, 10:36:47 am
Post by: Mewgen1 on September 21, 2005, 10:38:05 am
As far as controllers go I would advise a nice 3-axis joystick. Im still using my MS Sidewinder FF that I got back in the early 90's. I dunno about everyone else but the annoying habit gamepads have of dividing the three axis amongst two sticks is disturbing. Its the main reason I refuse to play most of the consoles these days, the controls are impossible to get used to without hours of practice.
Of course that just my point of view, maybe the more dextrous people out htere are better at it.
Post by: IPAndrews on September 21, 2005, 10:40:57 am
I do think a set of training missions would benefit TBP greatly. Since TBP like FS2 has a lot of controls that the player needs to know their way around. As it happens, one of the members of our community, madaboutgames, has just finished a set of training missions that can be obtained here:
http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,35282.0.html
I think playing missions like these is a far better way for a new player to become aquainted with TBP than playing RW. RW is a difficult campaign and in all honesty is probably not the best place for novice pilots to learn to play.
Post by: aipz on September 21, 2005, 11:10:02 am
Actually I am able to play using only mouse and keyboard without any difficulties :nod:
It all depends on how many buttons do you actually use...
Actually you don't need more than:
ship moving
speed setting
energy management
targeting
comms
shooting
afterburner ;)
Flying in B5: IFH is bigger challenge
as it incorporates newtonian physics:p
BTW No matter what Raider Wars rocks :yes:
Post by: Fabbro on September 21, 2005, 11:17:45 am
Post by: aipz on September 21, 2005, 12:04:31 pm
and in space sims as you have virtually no limitation to where your craft can turn...
(except *obstacles* like other ships :nervous: )
The mouse is more precise when it comes to targeting very small objects, but I guess each control method is good as long as it's effective for the player:lol::
Post by: madaboutgames on September 21, 2005, 01:12:08 pm
Ipandrews is right, whatever game you make will not satisfy every1, every1 is different thus us having different opinions, talents and thoughts. like i said in a previous thread (and on b5) Its the thought that counts, a lot of thoughts have gone into this which counts for a lot! This is the best B5 mod available, and is surpassing the word mod with all the updates it is making through the scp.
Keep up the good work team!!!
Post by: madaboutgames on September 21, 2005, 01:19:03 pm
"I do think a set of training missions would benefit TBP greatly. Since TBP like FS2 has a lot of controls that the player needs to know their way around. As it happens, one of the members of our community, madaboutgames, has just finished a set of training missions that can be obtained here:
http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespa...&threadid=35282 "
Training missions are available on my server but have not been linked to Mission downloads page, please post link on the training mission Thread when this is done, I will soon be going off line ofor a week or 2 as I am moving soon and it normally takes about 10 days to broadband enable a line.
Post by: CptWhite on September 21, 2005, 04:11:01 pm
Post by: Ranger1 on September 21, 2005, 10:51:06 pm
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Originally posted by mic of orion
I played Freespace 2 and this mod comes not even close to Freespace 2 manageability or controls, even thought it is based on same engine.
:confused:
Dude the controls are exactly the same as FS2. If you played that you should have no problem with this. All the orders you can give to your squad, subsystem targeting, ship targeting, etc are all the same. You no longer need to manage your sheild quadrants so that is one less thing to manage and much of the time you don't have exhaustable weapons(missles) to worry about.
Post by: xenthorious on September 22, 2005, 10:00:48 pm
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Originally posted by CptWhite
(http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~cptwhite/TBP_PCZone.JPG)
There we go :) It's also included on the cover DVD
What subscription is that? I want to buy a copy for my records!
Post by: CptWhite on September 23, 2005, 02:02:52 am
Post by: Fabbro on September 23, 2005, 11:30:07 am
Post by: xenthorious on September 23, 2005, 12:21:27 pm
Post by: Fabbro on September 23, 2005, 04:33:30 pm
Post by: ShockWave on September 23, 2005, 05:46:38 pm
ShockWave
Post by: Darkage on September 23, 2005, 06:01:55 pm
I have no problems at all shooting/flying at all, and i use the standard FS2 key settings.:)
Post by: Fabbro on September 23, 2005, 06:52:31 pm
Post by: aipz on September 24, 2005, 12:43:22 am
Post by: xenthorious on September 24, 2005, 02:20:46 am
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Originally posted by ShockWave
In all fairness, the actual "article" is entirely reproduced in the screengrab above, there's nothing more in the magazine. Do you really want to go to the bother of getting it for a quarter of a page, including the two images from the screenshot area of the website?
ShockWave
Reasons why I'm interested in it is because I could use it as a valid reference in APA format for papers. If you can find an online artical, that would do just as good. My only concern is that sometimes an online artical will eventually disappear.