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General FreeSpace => FreeSpace Discussion => Topic started by: Singh on September 16, 2005, 11:29:15 pm
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I was going through Karajoma's FAQ, and noticed the mission titles...each, in it's own way, is unique and rather significant as a title. Although tihs may never be related to the story or the game, I decided to do a little research into it anyway....interesting bits highlighted in bold.
Mission 1: Surrender, Belisarius!
Article (http://www.authorama.com/famous-men-of-the-middle-ages-9.html)
Article 2 (http://www.tiscali.co.uk/reference/encyclopaedia/hutchinson/m0071675.html)
Excerpt from the 1st article:
He had many wars during his reign, but he himself did not take part in them. He was not experienced as a soldier, for he had spent most of his time in study. He was fortunate enough, however, to have two great generals to lead his armies. One of them was named Belisarius and the other Narses.
Belisarius was one of the greatest soldiers that ever lived. He gained wonderful victories for Justinian, and conquered some of the old Roman provinces that had been lost for many years.
Mission 2: The Place of Chariots
Surprisingly, its actually a real place.... (http://www.tiscali.co.uk/reference/encyclopaedia/hutchinson/m0071675.html)
Excerpt:
Having left Londinium to its fate, Suetonius Paulinus, the Roman governor, eventually accumulated 10,000 infantry – hardly equal to the 200,000 rebels that he would have to face. So finding a suitable battlefield that would aid his outnumbered soldiers was particularly important to him.
Exactly where this was is still debated by historians. However, one compelling theory makes Mancetter, a village near Atherstone in Warwickshire, the most likely.
First, it is believed that this is where Paulinus's troops (coming from Anglesey) and the rebels (coming from Verulamium) would have met, given the respective speeds of their progress. Mancetter – whose name means 'the place of chariots' – was the site of a Roman fort on Watling Street, the major Roman road that stretched from London to Anglesey. Both sides would have utilised this road to reach each other quickly.
Mission 3: The Roman's Blunder.
This was pretty hard to find considering the mission's nature - but there has been a precedent in history it seems.
Go under the section The King of Kings and look for the defeat of the roman legions. (http://www.armenianhighland.com/main.html)
Excerpt:
Tigran knew that he had the support of the Army, especially the Armenian Cavalry, that was fiercely loyal to Tigran. It is interesting to note here that Plutarch considered the entry of the Roman general into Greater Armenia a military blunder, since the highlanders were prepared to fight to the death, shoulder to shoulder -- with the regular Imperial Army -- from their impregnable highlands . He wrote "He [Lucullus] seemed to be making a reckless attack, and one admitted on no saving calculation, upon warlike nations, countless thousands of horsemen, and a boundless region surrounded by deep rivers and mountains covered with perpetual snow."
Mission 4 coming up in a bit, decided to post this now...
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The :v: story guys knew their history and mythology quite well. Mission names aren't the likliest places for the casual gamer to see it, but it's sort of a mark of absolute completeness. The names all have some meaning, even going back to FS1. (Silent threat being the obvious exception, as it is to all things Freespace). I'm glad people are realizing that, but it really isn't a relevation.
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Originally posted by StratComm
The :v: story guys knew their history and mythology quite well. Mission names aren't the likliest places for the casual gamer to see it, but it's sort of a mark of absolute completeness. The names all have some meaning, even going back to FS1. (Silent threat being the obvious exception, as it is to all things Freespace). I'm glad people are realizing that, but it really isn't a relevation.
Well, that clearly evident the deeper I go into this.
Pish tho...should I bother continuing then, since its apperantly no mystery :/
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Go ahead. It'll be interesting research for you and having it documented somewhere is definitely a plus.
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Well, better continue then.
Mission 4: A Lion at the door
This one is...odd, to say the least. The most common reference in the poem "A Man of words and not deeds" and seems out of place, yet oddly in it at the same time.
I did find a second reference to the Genesis chapters 4 and 5 of the bible, but the links were dead. If anyone has a copy of the bible can read through and maybe find the reference, it would be appreciated.
http://writersalmanac.publicradio.org/poems/poem013.htm
A man of words and not of deeds
Is like a garden full of weeds;
And when the weeds begin to grow,
It's like a garden full of snow;
And when the snow begins to fall,
It's like a bird upon the wall;
And when the bird away does fly,
It's like an eagle in the sky;
And when the sky begins to roar,
It's like a lion at the door;
And when the door begins to crack,
It's like a stick across your back;
And when your back begins to smart,
It's like a penknife in your heart;
And when your heart begins to bleed,
You're dead, you're dead, and dead indeed.
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Mission 5: The Mystery of the Trinity
This one is a tough one. The only reference I can find are those related to religious texts.
Directly off wikipedia:
"modalists attempted to resolve the mystery of the Trinity by holding that the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost are merely modes, roles, or manifestations of God Almighty. This anti-trinitarian view contend that the three "Persons" are not distinct individuals, but titles which describe how humanity has interacted with or had experiences with God. In the Role of The Father, God is the provider and creator of all. In the mode of The Son, man experiences God in the flesh, as a human, fully man and fully God. God manifests Himself as the Holy Spirit by his actions on Earth and within the lives of Christians. This view is known as Sabellianism, and was rejected as heresy by the Ecumenical Councils although it is still prevalent today among denominations known as "Oneness" and "Apostolic" Pentecostal Christians, the largest of these sects being the United Pentecostal Church. Trinitarianism insists that the Father, Son and Spirit simultaneously exist, each fully the same God."
Tihs is far-fetched, and hardly related to the mission at all, so there is a good chance this was not the basis of the mission. More than likely, I suspect it was related to the legend of The Mary Celeste which was found with nobody onboard. However, there might be a connection with the a/m passage, in terms of viewing the three races as the three entities...although which would be which is a significant question (senior = Bosch, Junior = GTC Trinity/Aurthur Roemig, ghost = Shivans?).
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Mission 6: The Great Hunt
This, compared to the previous one, is relatively easy and straightforward. References to history or mythology are quite not found, but its roots lie rather in literature. We have such as The second book of the wheel of time (http://www.tor.com/jordan/greathunt.html) or another poem, with the same title (http://www.bartleby.com/271/152.html)
I suspect there is something deeper to this, but a rudimentary google search has turned up nothing.
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edit: correction, what I posted it does not make much of a connection with this mission, but more of the next one.
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Don't forget to take in to account the actual contents of the missions, because the missions (and things like ship names, etc) and the titles are inescapably linked, especially through the first half of the game. The Iceni ties in closely to the Roman's Blunder, as has been discussed before. You'll see this too with "The Sixth Wonder" pretty explicitly. You'll also find that, while most of the missions when you fight NTF refer to Roman/Greek history, almost all of the Shivan ones are of biblical significance. You started to get to this with "A lion at the door" but the significance ties deeper than that most of the time. And it's here that the tie goes back to FS1, with mission names like "Playing Judas", "Doomsday", "Exodus". In fact there are other signs that :v: intended to tie Shivans to Christian beliefs (class names nephilim, seraphim, Cain, Lilith, Lucifer (duh); ship names Eva (Eve), cruisers Cain and Abel, the destroyer Beast in FS2, the list goes on and on) that are actually quite obvious. In part, it's because they are denoted as evils in Christian beliefs, but that's not exclusive on all of those instances. Why, now that's another question and one that we may have ultimately learned in FS3.
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Originally posted by StratComm
Don't forget to take in to account the actual contents of the missions, because the missions (and things like ship names, etc) and the titles are inescapably linked, especially through the first half of the game. The Iceni ties in closely to the Roman's Blunder, as has been discussed before. You'll see this too with "The Sixth Wonder" pretty explicitly. You'll also find that, while most of the missions when you fight NTF refer to Roman/Greek history, almost all of the Shivan ones are of biblical significance. You started to get to this with "A lion at the door" but the significance ties deeper than that most of the time. And it's here that the tie goes back to FS1, with mission names like "Playing Judas", "Doomsday", "Exodus". In fact there are other signs that :v: intended to tie Shivans to Christian beliefs (class names nephilim, seraphim, Cain, Lilith, Lucifer (duh); ship names Eva (Eve), cruisers Cain and Abel, the destroyer Beast in FS2, the list goes on and on) that are actually quite obvious. In part, it's because they are denoted as evils in Christian beliefs, but that's not exclusive on all of those instances. Why, now that's another question and one that we may have ultimately learned in FS3.
Hmmm....have already done so and this is getting interesting. But I think it does have a certain connection with Hindu mythology as well. After all, a significant number of the ships and wings were named after hindu gods. This is also somewhat present in FS2 - especially in Slaying Ravana, which I'll post about now.
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Yes, but in Freespace it's pretty clearly stated that their ships are given designations based on Hindu mythology. It's the fact that close to half of their fleet (and all significant mission names) in FS1 and a significant portion in FS2 are actually biblical that I find interesting.
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Names are one things, events are another. As I said, I don't doubt there is a deep, underlying basis in Christian mythology and the bible, however from what I feel, the events of the bible wasn't the only things it was based upon.
Besides, having never read the bible, I wouldn't be able to give that much of an opinion or information if it were only based on that :p
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Mission 7: Slaying Ravana
now this is somewhat surprising. This mission, when going by Hindu mythology, not only has a connection with the previous mission, but a limited connection with the next one as well.
First article, read towards the bottom (http://www.indolink.com/Kidz/rama.htm)
Article (http://www.chennaionline.com/festivalsnreligion/religion/religion389.asp)
Here is the excerpt, close to the bottom of the first article, relating to the previous mission and the mission itself.
During the exile, Sita was abducted by the demon king Ravana. Rama hunt out Ravana with the help of the monkey king Sugreeva and his commander Hanuman. A fierce battle ensued and Ravana was finally defeated. Rama triumphantly returned to Ayodhya with Sita after fourteen years' of exile.
Another very, very interesting peace of mythology which strikes very familiar with the mission itself (albiet for the names) is this one:
The demoness Surpanakha, sister of the demon king Ravana, becomes enamored of the handsome Rama and tries to seduce him during his stay in the jungle. Rama, renowned for his practice of (Click link for more info and facts about Ekapatnivrata) Ekapatnivrata, the vow to practice unassailable loyalty to one's wife, is unresponsive. But Rama's brother Lakshmana, infuriated by Surpanaka's act of willful lasciviousness, cuts off her nose. Surpanakha runs home crying to her brother Ravana. To avenge his sister's loss of nose, Ravana uses the demon (Click link for more info and facts about Maricha) Maricha to lure Rama and Lakshmana away, leaving Sita unguarded. At her moment of vulnerability, Ravana abducts Sita in his airborne vehicle, the (Click link for more info and facts about Pushpaka Vimana) Pushpaka Vimana.
Now, this doesnt seem very connected, so I went and did a search on the names Actium and Lysander
Actium happens to be a place (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Actium) with a rather interesting history of being lost to a larger enemy. Of interest is this paragraph:
"Actium belonged originally to the Corinthian colonists of Anactorium, who probably founded the worship of Apollo Actius and the Actia games; in the 3rd century B.C. it fell to the Acarnanians, who subsequently held their synods there. Actium is chiefly famous as the site of Caesar Augustus' decisive victory over Mark Antony (September 2 31 B.C.). This battle ended a long series of ineffectual operations. The final conflict was provoked by Antony, who is said to have been persuaded by Cleopatra VII to retire to Egypt and give battle to mask his retreat; but lack of provisions and the growing demoralization of his army would sufficiently account for his decision."
Lysander, as it stands, is a Spartan General. More information can be found http://ancienthistory.about.com/cs/people/a/lysander.htmhere () but I doubt its connected in the way I wished.
However, then I read this:
Linky (http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/encyclopedia/m/ma/maricha.htm)
Ravana wants to kidnap (Wife of the Hindu god Rama; regarded as an ideal of womanhood) Sita and so asks for Maricha's help, who then turns himself into a golden deer. The golden lusture of the deer lures Sita so much that she wishes to have the deer for herself. So she asks Rama to get it for her. Rama orders (Click link for more info and facts about Lakshmana) Lakshmana to take care of Sita while he goes for hunting the deer.
Rama succeeds in hunting down the deer after a long chase, but on its dying breath the deer shouts 'Sita Save me, Lakshamana Save me' mimicking Rama's voice. Sita falls prey to the trap and asks Lakshmana to go on a search for Rama. But Lakshmana says that no one can harm Rama. Sita, still very much worried, implores Lakshmana to go. Then follows the famous story of the (Click link for more info and facts about Lakshman Rekha) Lakshman Rekha.
The connection is there, and is somewhat apperant, but its also somewhat far-fetched and abstract.
However, its connection with the events of the next mission are somewhat apperant. A quote from this article ()
"The Moolavar is Perarulaalan seen in standing posture facing east. The Utsavar is Hemarangar, Semponrangar. Lord Rama to atone the sin of slaying Ravana, stayed for four days in a golden cow on the advice of Thrdanethra rishi. He then gave it as dhaanam to a brahmin, who used the gold to construct this temple and hence the name semponseikoil (sempon-pure gold)."
Something on a grand scale, similar to the sixth wonger, although its purpose is not exactly what I was looking for...
more specultion to come later - have work to do now.
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Someone at V really knows their history I'll agree :) Keep up the research Singh if you're enjoying it cause it does make interesting reading :)
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One of the writers took more than programming college. *GASP* ;)
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Excellent work so far, Singh. :yes: I was always impressed by how the titles of the missions reflected some aspect of history or mythology (since I'm just that sort of nut).
Don't forget to take in to account the actual contents of the missions
Exactly. Especially take into account Mission 2, and then look up the source of the Iceni and Boadicea's names.
The Biblical references are obvious, including the references to Etamnaki, Babel, and the apocalypse. With the exception of the Lucifer and Sathanas, nearly all of the Shivan ships seemed to have some Eastern/Hindu influences behind them: Shaitan, Llith, Rakshasa, Ravana, etc. Sathanas and Lucifer seem to be more connecting with a Biblical Satan, which seems out of place among the Hindu references.
Anyway, keep it up. This is great reading.
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Demon is pretty religion-neutral, but I disagree when you say that all of the Shivan ships are Hindu. Cain certainly isn't. Lilith actually is rooted in Judeo-Christian beliefs though I can't tell how firmly. Plus, there are the two bombers that are named for castes of angels (ok, so Nephilim are fallen angels).
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Kings Gambit, Sicilian Defence, and Endgame are all absed on chess.
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Originally posted by Singh
Mission 5: The Mystery of the Trinity
This one is a tough one. The only reference I can find are those related to religious texts.
Directly off wikipedia:
"modalists attempted to resolve the mystery of the Trinity by holding that the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost are merely modes, roles, or manifestations of God Almighty. This anti-trinitarian view contend that the three "Persons" are not distinct individuals, but titles which describe how humanity has interacted with or had experiences with God. In the Role of The Father, God is the provider and creator of all. In the mode of The Son, man experiences God in the flesh, as a human, fully man and fully God. God manifests Himself as the Holy Spirit by his actions on Earth and within the lives of Christians. This view is known as Sabellianism, and was rejected as heresy by the Ecumenical Councils although it is still prevalent today among denominations known as "Oneness" and "Apostolic" Pentecostal Christians, the largest of these sects being the United Pentecostal Church. Trinitarianism insists that the Father, Son and Spirit simultaneously exist, each fully the same God."
Tihs is far-fetched, and hardly related to the mission at all, so there is a good chance this was not the basis of the mission. More than likely, I suspect it was related to the legend of The Mary Celeste which was found with nobody onboard. However, there might be a connection with the a/m passage, in terms of viewing the three races as the three entities...although which would be which is a significant question (senior = Bosch, Junior = GTC Trinity/Aurthur Roemig, ghost = Shivans?).
Or;
Ghost = Past = Sol, TV War
Father = the GTI rebellion & Bosch - leading to the NTF and the birth of...
Son = Future = Shivan alliance(?)
Perhaps.
[q]In part, it's because they are denoted as evils in Christian beliefs, but that's not exclusive on all of those instances. Why, now that's another question and one that we may have ultimately learned in FS3.[/q]
Worth noting FS2' subtitle was to be 'Exodus' (before it was cut altogether). Whose Exodus is the interesting thing.
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Originally posted by aldo_14
Worth noting FS2' subtitle was to be 'Exodus' (before it was cut altogether). Whose Exodus is the interesting thing.
It could just be a reference to the Capella evacuation, but I think the idea of it referring to Bosch's journey into the nebula would be much more meaningful. I'll never accept that he ended up as a Shivan guinea pig; he had far too much import to the story to be written off like that.
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Originally posted by Mongoose
It could just be a reference to the Capella evacuation, but I think the idea of it referring to Bosch's journey into the nebula would be much more meaningful. I'll never accept that he ended up as a Shivan guinea pig; he had far too much import to the story to be written off like that.
From Bosch's third monologue
Why does the Ancient portal lead us here? Have the Shivans been waiting for us for thousands of years? This Oddessy... this Exodus... Do we journey towards the promised land, or into the Valley of the Kings? Three decades ago I envisioned a new future for our species, and now that we are on the brink of realizing my dream I feel only solitude and regret. Has my entire life's work been a fool's crusade? Have I led my people into this desert, only to die? My regime has caused nothing but savegry and suffering, but I cannot turn back now. I must find the Destroyers who lurk behind this veil of clouds, or I must wait for the Destroyers to find me. The nebula is a remenant of a Supernova thousands if not millions of light years from Earth. And I wonder now if our ancestors witnessed the death of this star, erupting over an Egyptian landscape, blazing with the brilliance of 400,000,000 suns. Even in their divinity, no Pharaoh could have imagined this.
Very biblical, in a sense. Like I said, I'm not sure where :v: was going with this, but it's got tons of promise. It's a real shame we'll never know how they intended to finish it up.
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Originally posted by FireCrack
Kings Gambit, Sicilian Defence, and Endgame are all absed on chess.
Why Sicilian Defense though? Why not Philidor or Pirc or Petroff or Dutch, etc... ?
Seeing the situation of the GTVA throughout the campaign, Pirc or Petroff would seem to suit them much better than Sicilian.
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hmmmmmmmmmm.....
Ghostavo - you've just given me a very interesting thought....:drevil:
Ill get back to taht when I reach the mission. I have to get home before I can continue this for the moment.
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Mission 8: The Sixth Wonder.
Well, this is the most obvious. A quote I got off an australian website:
"The sixth wonder of the world was the Colossus of Rhodes, a huge statue of Helios the sun-god, made of bronze reinforced with iron and weighted with stones."
In hte mission we have several ships, including the NTC Cato. (http://www.barca.fsnet.co.uk/cato.htm)
The Cato appears to be a person (see link), and somewhat of a rebel...perhaps an indication of it's captian's nature?
"From this standpoint he attacked, and generally discredited, for embezzlement and other illegal acts while abroad, a succession of victims: M’. Acilius Glabrio, his commander in 191, another New Man; the great Scipio Africanus, Cato’s commander in Sicily and Africa, and his brother L. Cornelius Scipio; Q. Minucius Thermus, one of those who followed Cato in Spain. By 184 he had a well-deserved reputation for stubborn righteousness and fiery oratory. "
"Cato’s last major contribution to Roman public affairs was to urge war against Carthage, the ‘Third Punic War’ as it is now known — a war that was eventually declared in his lifetime and ended, after his death, with the complete destruction of Rome’s great rival. As Cato had so insistently repeated, Carthago delenda est, ‘Carthage must be razed.’ Its destroyer would be P. Cornelius Scipio Aemilianus, brother of Cato’s daughter-in-law Tertia. ‘He alone has a mind,’ said the aged Cato about Aemilianus; ‘the rest are darting shadows’ (Polybius 36 fragment 8.7). "
And then, of course, we have Enif station.
Enif station....is quite literally epsilon pegasi. (http://www.daviddarling.info/encyclopedia/E/Enif.html)
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The brightest star in Pegasus; its name comes from the Arabic for "the nose" and refers to the muzzle of the winged horse. Enif is an orange supergiant K star, big enough, if put in place of the Sun, to stretch halfway to the orbit of Venus. It seems to be part of a family of three similar supergiants that also includes the Alpha and Beta stars of nearby Aquarius, Sadalmelik and Sadalsuud. The stellar trio, all at roughly the same luminosity and distance (Sadalmelik at 760 light-years, Sadalsuud at 610) may have been born together in the same extended group and. over the past 15 million years or so, have drifted well over 100 light-years apart. Most odd about Enif is its possible erratic and violent behavior. In 1972, an observer in Florida reported Enif to be as bright as Altair - five times brighter than normal—after which it faded. For over 10 minutes it appeared to pop some kind of enormous flare, one vastly brighter than those often seen on the Sun. Such events are rare—only two dozen or so are known—and not well documented, nor is there any theory for them. "
This is all fine and interesting - but what about the Hawkwood?
Running a google search brought up many, many entries, but this one is probably the most relevant:
http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/people/A0823031.html
"Hawkwood, Sir John de, d. 1394, English soldier. He fought in the French wars of Edward III and was knighted, although it is not known when or where. With his “white company” of mercenaries, he entered (1362) Italy and became a condottiere. He served sometimes one republic, sometimes another, but he was employed most regularly by Florence, where he died. The cathedral in Florence contains an equestrian portrait of Hawkwood by Paolo Uccello."
Now, running the search on Florence brought up too many results to find the one im looking for - if anyone else can get it, it would be deeply appreciated.
Now, for the analysis:
If one looked at the previous mission and the background behind it, and then this one, there is a slight connection. The construction of the temple in Ramayan's honor during his repenance of the slaying of Ravana. More interestingly, in history, the construction of the Colossus at rhodes did have a similar reason - peace.
"Throughout most of its history, ancient Greece was comprised of city-states which had limited power beyond their boundary. On the small island of Rhodes were three of these: Ialysos, Kamiros, and Lindos. In 408 BC, the cities united to form one territory, with a unified capital, Rhodes. The city thrived commercially and had strong economic ties with their main ally, Ptolemy I Soter of Egypt. In 305 BC, the Antigonids of Macedonia who were also rivals of the Ptolemies, besieged Rhodes in an attempt to break the Rhodo-Egyptian alliance. They could never penetrate the city. When a peace agreement was reached in 304 BC, the Antagonids lifted the siege, leaving a wealth of military equipment behind. To celebrate their unity, the Rhodians sold the equipment and used the money to erect an enormous statue of their sun god, Helios."
In the case of connection with Hindu mythology, its appearance came forth from the destruction of an ancient foe and the reconciliation of one's action, while the connection in greek mythology and history, its construction and creation came about from a peace between two historic enemies.
Now this is interesting, to say the least.
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And the Colossus of Rhodes was quite notoriously destroyed by an earthquake shortly after its completion and never rebuilt. Which will be important later.
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IIRC the destruction of the Colossus was blamed on offending Helios (whom the statue was of), too; hence why the statue was never rebuilt.
Helios being the sun god. i.e. as in Capella(?).
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Wow, this is really interesting. I thought the names were just because they sounded good, I only noticed the really obvious ones.
Your signature's really interesting too. It makes me wonder who "You of all people" is though.
*waits patiently for the next chapter of Journey of the Forgotten*
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This looks really great. It's nice reading for those interested, not just FS2 fans. Heh, what will you write 'High Noon'? :D
(Of course we all know where it comes from :p).
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Do you know what I just discovered?
That Freespace 2 is indeed much more vastly connected to the bible....
I just ran a search on Aken Bosch's name, just for the heck of it....
look what I found... (http://www.sachem.edu/schools/tecumseh/bosch/index.html)
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from page 2 of the link:
"Bosch's The Last Judgment. The Last Judgement includes paintings of saints and the mankind. It also includes humans beings suffering. This was probably a way of showing his anger or feelings. The names of the different paintings in here are St James the Great, St Bavo, The Fall of Mankind, The last Judgment, Hell, Frying Bodies, The Cast, A Musical Scene, The Urn, and Monsters with Knives.
Another interesting fact was, his paintings showed vivid images of the people in life. His paintings showed a fantasy of good and evil. Bosch did a lot of paintings where the human being is suffering or showing anger at being punished for a bad life. He paints about Christ and various saints such as Anthony, Jerome, and James. They would guide people to a good life on Earth, so they could have a good life in Heaven. Bosch is a unexplainable man because, he had a world of his own, through his artwork we get a glimpse of the man."
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Good work Singh :yes: Keep on going :)
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Wow. I knew (a little) of Hieronymous Bosch the painter, but not that his original name was Van Aken. Pretty much definitively proves where the name came from.
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I always liked the name of the mission where you collapse the Knossos, "A Flaming Sword."
So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.
Genesis 3:24
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Originally posted by Galemp
I always liked the name of the mission where you collapse the Knossos, "A Flaming Sword."
I always thought the music (I forget which track) really suited the mission.
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Originally posted by Singh
Mission 6: The Great Hunt
This, compared to the previous one, is relatively easy and straightforward. References to history or mythology are quite not found, but its roots lie rather in literature. We have such as The second book of the wheel of time (http://www.tor.com/jordan/greathunt.html) or another poem, with the same title (http://www.bartleby.com/271/152.html)
I suspect there is something deeper to this, but a rudimentary google search has turned up nothing.
Have you contemplated a reference to the Wild Hunt, perhaps?
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A tidbit: Ravana is the leader of Rakshas (singular Raksha), which are lesser evil spirits or demons.
Lilith is a complex one: stories about her are very old and so varied that it is difficult to say which myth came before one. Most important ones being that
a) Lilith is the first wife of Adam, his equal
b) she's an evil spirit
c) A Divine Lady for some religions.
For ship names you should propably check out pantheon.org, they have loads of information regarding these myths.
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Originally posted by Grey Wolf
Have you contemplated a reference to the Wild Hunt, perhaps?
I remember from somewhere hearing that the Mongols participated in a "Great Hunt", involving the hunting of thousands of animals at one time.
I also noticed that there is a FS1 mission named the same; the second-last mission involving that 100K+ meter chase after the Lucifer. Connection, maybe?
On a side note, there was a particular mission name that I always liked simply because of the fact that the opening half resembled exactly what the name was. (I'll let Singh get to it before mentioning it :D )
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You wouldn't be thinking of "Love the Treason..." would you?
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im hooked...this is great reading material, i know im new and all but i really think you guys should compose an article about this stuff "Freespace Origins - A journey to the lands beyond"?
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Ok, I'll be starting this thread over from scratch - the reason being is that I missed quite a few details in the first few missions that I overlooked. Rather than go ahead with an incomplete base, i'd like to go back and start over and get it right.
To sort of making it formattable and readable, would the following format work?
Mission name:
Brief Description:
Ships in Mission/Class:
Special Characters involved (if any):
Mission Name Analysis and links:
Mission Ships/Class Analysis and links:
Mission events/description analysis and links:
Any misc. notes as well as possible connections between the a/m three analysis.
Would there be anything to add to this?
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Scratch? Gee, you spoil us. :|
Since the new suggested format improves on the current ones, I am fine with it. :p
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Originally posted by StratComm
You wouldn't be thinking of "Love the Treason..." would you?
Nope. Keep guessing.
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the format looks kool Singh, to me atleast