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Title: Contest Entry: Podfighter
Post by: Darkshear on March 28, 2001, 06:57:00 pm
 (http://www.tycho.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/darkshear/podfighter1.jpg)
 (http://www.tycho.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/darkshear/podfighter2.jpg)
 (http://www.tycho.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/darkshear/podfighter3.jpg)

Polygons: 31773
Texture maps: 12
surfaces: 90
objects: 6
lightwave
apx time: 14 hours

Yeah, I know...somewhat remaniscent of the fighters from Lost In Space.
Probably where I recieved my inspiration from.
Though it is quite different.
Created for fun.

My second entry.
Hope you enjoy  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: Contest Entry: Podfighter
Post by: NeoHunter on March 28, 2001, 07:21:00 pm
Reminds me of the B-Wing from Star Wars becuase of the longer wing on one side. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

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Title: Contest Entry: Podfighter
Post by: Shrike on March 28, 2001, 07:49:00 pm
Yeah, quite true.

Man, I have to learn good modelling.....my stuff doesn't stack up.
Title: Contest Entry: Podfighter
Post by: NeoHunter on March 28, 2001, 08:02:00 pm
I've done one for the HLP Modelling COntest but I think I'll stay in the beginner section. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

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Title: Contest Entry: Podfighter
Post by: Sushi on March 28, 2001, 09:09:00 pm
Beautiful. It looks like a perfectly constructed all-metal display model. I love it.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Title: Contest Entry: Podfighter
Post by: Setekh on March 29, 2001, 02:20:00 am
I love it! Another high quality entry. Well done.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: Contest Entry: Podfighter
Post by: Starwing on March 29, 2001, 10:31:00 am
Where do all those people with their better-then-real models come from. That's a conspiration! They knew that my model was the best and didn't want me to win!  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)

Just kidding. This is really GREAT. It looks like real.
Title: Contest Entry: Podfighter
Post by: NeoHunter on March 30, 2001, 02:14:00 am
The texturing looks like si real, I thought it was a real life model and was captured on a digital camera.

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Title: Contest Entry: Podfighter
Post by: Setekh on March 30, 2001, 03:07:00 am
You'd be forgeiven for thinking this was a new high-tech schematic by NASA. No joke.
Title: Contest Entry: Podfighter
Post by: Darkshear on March 30, 2001, 03:27:00 am
well I feel all warm and fuzzy now :P

Thanks guys  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: Contest Entry: Podfighter
Post by: xaereau on April 20, 2001, 02:22:00 am
That's nothing .........


short of phenomenal!!!!

Yes, it reminds me of a bwing (tho your horizontal plane is 90 deg off) and also the cockpit reminds me of the bog standard B5 earth alliance fighter, i for get its name . flying that without shields would make me feel very insecure  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

But she is a beaut.

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Title: Contest Entry: Podfighter
Post by: Ypoknons on April 27, 2001, 10:09:00 pm
Impressive. Yeah, it is great... I guess I'm at loss of words. True, it does look NASA ish...

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Title: Contest Entry: Podfighter
Post by: Shrike on April 27, 2001, 11:32:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by Ypoknons:
Crap! I don't get my ancient status here at HLP. Oh well.

Apparently you did.

Don't ask me how....I'm going to ask you where it's from (and will subsequently feel foolish when I go "I knew that.....")
Title: Contest Entry: Podfighter
Post by: Warlock on April 27, 2001, 11:36:00 pm
He's an old XWA Mod God  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Title: Contest Entry: Podfighter
Post by: Shrike on April 28, 2001, 12:17:00 am
Ok.
Title: Contest Entry: Podfighter
Post by: Setekh on April 28, 2001, 01:53:00 am
 
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Originally posted by Setekh:
Shrike: Master of Conversation

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Title: Contest Entry: Podfighter
Post by: Shrike on April 28, 2001, 02:00:00 am
yep
Title: Contest Entry: Podfighter
Post by: Shrike on April 28, 2001, 02:00:00 am
course, you gonna say that when you see my comment in the Admin forum?  You'll know it.... (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Title: Contest Entry: Podfighter
Post by: Snipes on April 28, 2001, 01:34:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by NeoHunter:
I thought it was a real life model and was captured on a digital camera.


Me too
Title: Contest Entry: Podfighter
Post by: aldo_14 on May 25, 2001, 09:05:00 am
BUMP
Title: Contest Entry: Podfighter
Post by: Griffon UK on June 02, 2001, 03:26:00 pm
waddya mean 'remaniscent'?  Its a dead-ringer  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)

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Title: Contest Entry: Podfighter
Post by: Fattony on June 02, 2001, 03:59:00 pm
I have a few things to say about the fighter and the contest in general:

That thing is ****ing amazing. I thought that this was the sort of level that all the models would be at, but judging by some of the entries (no offence) I think I shoulda entered (my recent models are 20 minute knock offs).

Are you sure there are only 12 maps there?. The textures are as perfect as I have ever seen on a non-movie render, but saying that, I've seen plenty of movie with graphics that weren't even half that quality.

Definitely a winner in my opinion.
Title: Contest Entry: Podfighter
Post by: Shrike on June 02, 2001, 04:28:00 pm
Those maps could very well be 10 megs apiece.  and when you start to add all kinds of effects like bump, reflections, etc etc, things get very realistic.
Title: Contest Entry: Podfighter
Post by: Snipes on June 02, 2001, 09:12:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by Fattony:
That thing is ****ing amazing

Funny how you can't say *** , but you can say that  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/rolleyes.gif)
Title: Contest Entry: Podfighter
Post by: wEvil on June 02, 2001, 09:16:00 pm
oh well..another of life's little mysteries there  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/frown.gif)

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Title: Contest Entry: Podfighter
Post by: Setekh on June 02, 2001, 09:52:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by Snipes:
Funny how you can't say *** , but you can say that   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/rolleyes.gif)

You just need to know how to defeat the system.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/devil.gif) Ass.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Title: Contest Entry: Podfighter
Post by: wEvil on June 02, 2001, 09:56:00 pm
showoff :P

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Title: Contest Entry: Podfighter
Post by: Martinus on June 02, 2001, 10:52:00 pm
Hmmm I see problems on any thread where the subject of "donkey slang names" comes up. Consider for a moment that someone suggests the word ***  as an appropriate choice for a well known donkey slang name, they would certainly be in trouble because as is evident the word ***  cannot be seen and merely is shown as ***. Also consider that "asterix, asterix, asterix" is not a commonly known slang title for a donkey and indeed would confuse persons attempting to learn donkey slang titles for educational purposes.

Scenario: Little Jimmy is 7 years old, he is currently in class and the teacher asks him "Jimmy do you know any other names for a donkey?". Jimmy, being a regular at the HLP boards and remembering a discussion involving donkey slang names offers the answer "asterix, asterix, asterix". The teacher promptly phones his parents, a local shrink and a priest who all determine that he has mental problems and cannot be allowed to hold a senior position in any large multinational company in the future.
Jimmy's life is irrepairably damaged due to the fact that he was unaware that the HLP boards had selective filtering and that the word ***  appears like this: ***

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Title: Contest Entry: Podfighter
Post by: Shrike on June 02, 2001, 10:58:00 pm
ok......I wouldn't worry too much about 7 years olds on this forum, personally.
Title: Contest Entry: Podfighter
Post by: Setekh on June 02, 2001, 11:16:00 pm
You earn the title well, Maeglamor.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Title: Contest Entry: Podfighter
Post by: Darkshear on June 03, 2001, 02:56:00 am
/me looks at the podfighter and wonders how donkeys ***  came into the conversation :P
Title: Contest Entry: Podfighter
Post by: Snipes on June 03, 2001, 09:31:00 am
 
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Originally posted by Maeglamor:
determine that he has mental problems

But...but that explains many many people who post on forums ***  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: Contest Entry: Podfighter
Post by: Daedalus on June 07, 2001, 10:33:00 am
14 hours? That's it?! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/eek.gif)

 (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Title: Contest Entry: Podfighter
Post by: Setekh on June 07, 2001, 04:54:00 pm
Be afraid kids - be very, very afraid...  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Title: Contest Entry: Podfighter
Post by: Martinus on June 07, 2001, 08:32:00 pm
Especially you little Jimmy  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Title: Contest Entry: Podfighter
Post by: Styxx on June 08, 2001, 06:19:00 pm
Just notice that 14 hours of modelling is a long time. You must work several days on it, work on modelling full time, give up sleeping or have no social life at all to be able to do that kind of model...

Just think about how much time you work straight on at any given time for your free time projects (I was never able to work much more than half an hour a day...).
Title: Contest Entry: Podfighter
Post by: Setekh on June 08, 2001, 06:25:00 pm
At that rate, such a model would take about a month to complete.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/eek.gif)
Title: Contest Entry: Podfighter
Post by: Darkshear on June 08, 2001, 07:03:00 pm
Actually, that is for all the animations I did with it, texturing, and modeling...

took about two days to model and texture...and not much time at all to set up the animations...(You can see one of em at my site)
I let the animations render out while I was sleeping :P

so it just took a few days all together...figure about 3 or 4 hours to model...modeled in one day...incedentally, a couple days after that I created a bomber version, took even less time.

It is basically just a cylindar, beveled a lot at both ends...maybe 15 minutes to make the central fuselage...stuck a sphere on the front of it, and a cylindar with a slope inwards and a flate plane on the inside for the engines...(All of the details is done with textures on the engines, I should post a pic of the model with no textures)
Then a hollowed out sylindar beveled at both ends, extruded to one side for the weapons pod, and extruded and beveled to the other for the wing.
Select the front panel of the weapons pod, quad devide it, select a couple fo the outer faces, bevel in slightly, meta quad devide those a couple times, and bevel em out and then bakc in for the weapons...

Really very simple...
What took the longest was the rotating targeting reticle on the outside of the bubble. All I did was create a sphere, boolean subtract the peices of it I didn't want, extruded the whole thing, to give it depth, a good half hour or 45 minutes of work there.
The texturing was done quick also, basic metallic texures for everything, but the wing, the wing is basically a big metallic image matte with numbers painted on it, and then autosized to the wing.

I might have been generous giving it 14 hours, but I built it really fast and a long time ago,  so I don't relaly remember. But I know it wasn't long. Just a little weekend project to build the two ships.

when I put that class together for people who want to learn lightwave, we might build the podfighter as the project.

Incedentally, the cockpit took the least amount of time. THe inside is mapped with a black textures with some colored squares, and a luminosity value, and the seat setup is just an old mesh of mine of the aliens powerloader, with a few parts removed.

what took the longest was rendering it out with full reflections and refractions, since the cockpit is all glass, and I wanted it to have the properties of glass.

Rob
Title: Contest Entry: Podfighter
Post by: Darkshear on June 08, 2001, 07:31:00 pm
 (http://darkstar.warpstorm.com/darkshear/temps/podblank1.jpg)

As you can see, it is all basic shapes, with inward and outward bevels at good locations...very easy to model in this style...since to bevel a surface, you just select it, hit 'b' move the mouse, hit 'b' twice, move the mouse again, hit 'b' twiec move the mouse again, then you have a series of three bevels already...once oyu make your cylindar, bevels take seconds to do.

and extrusion is almsot as simple, select the side of the cylindar, hit shift-'e', pull it out to where you want it, delete the internal extra polys, flip the new polys, merge points, and you have the first section of the weapons pod. do that a couple times, you get that shape, bevel the front of it a bit, with some devides, and you got guns and vents.

I have found that modeling well, does't have to mean complicated. As long as ti si clean, and you keep an aesthetic value running, know where to put the lights, what panels, what shapes.

Rob
Title: Contest Entry: Podfighter
Post by: Martinus on June 08, 2001, 09:58:00 pm
Someone once told me that it doesn't matter how good a model is, textures are what really make the difference between a good model and an excellent model. Lucily you seem to have hit the nail right on the head with this one.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Title: Contest Entry: Podfighter
Post by: Setekh on June 09, 2001, 01:12:00 am
You honestly make it sound so easy. Experience helps.
Title: Contest Entry: Podfighter
Post by: 'Captain' Nick Brown on August 20, 2001, 08:20:00 pm
Was this model actually made and put into FS2? It looks too good to be FS2 more like in real life.
Title: Contest Entry: Podfighter
Post by: Fineus on August 21, 2001, 01:38:00 am
No, this was just from the contest we held a while back. You can find the links to that on the HLP main page.
Title: Contest Entry: Podfighter
Post by: Setekh on August 23, 2001, 07:25:00 am
 
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Originally posted by 'Captain' Nick Brown:
Was this model actually made and put into FS2?

Do you ever ask anything else?  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)