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Title: can this be made?!?!?
Post by: ZmaN on September 24, 2005, 09:31:13 pm
can sum1 make a campaign that takes from when the colossus is supposed to get destroyed, it takes over like a monster?  In other words, can a campaign be made where the colossus doesnt get destroyed, and the GTVA destroys the Shivans for good?!?!?!  I would love that, and Ill help as best i can if it happens!
Title: can this be made?!?!?
Post by: Charismatic on September 24, 2005, 09:34:40 pm
It can happen, any FREDer or campaign maker can do it. But IMHO i dont think any will by your asking. It takes time and even more time. And effort to say the least.
EDIT: And yeah. That would be so unfun i would not even finish it, even if i foreced myself to start it. Defeat the shivans with 1 colici? Impossible and rediculous. That would be a mockery of FS2..
Title: can this be made?!?!?
Post by: Unknown Target on September 24, 2005, 09:34:56 pm
OMFG!!!111oneoneone
I doubt you'll be able to get anyone to "make you" a campaign - if you want it, you'll most likely have to do it yourself.
Title: can this be made?!?!?
Post by: Nuclear1 on September 24, 2005, 10:15:50 pm
I can just smell the flames and personal attacks coming from a mile away.

Just as a future warning, ZmaN: though you don't intend anything harmful, or you simply don't no any better, it is often best to not post threads such as this, simply because you'll get a response like UT's.
Title: can this be made?!?!?
Post by: MatthewPapa on September 24, 2005, 10:36:48 pm
UT eats n00bs :)
Title: Re: can this be made?!?!?
Post by: IceFire on September 24, 2005, 10:42:21 pm
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Originally posted by ZmaN
can sum1 make a campaign that takes from when the colossus is supposed to get destroyed, it takes over like a monster?  In other words, can a campaign be made where the colossus doesnt get destroyed, and the GTVA destroys the Shivans for good?!?!?!  I would love that, and Ill help as best i can if it happens!

The Colossus was never designed to go toe to toe with a Sathanas juggernaught.  It was designed to defeat a much smaller and less powerful ship (i.e. the Lucifer).  You'll notice that the Sathanas had to be defanged for the Colossus to even have a chance....even a single primary beam cannon would tip the scales and allow the Sathanas to defeat the Colossus.

SO...try and beat 80 Sathanas class juggernaughts.  Not even with 80 Colossus' to match would you win.

Plus that goes into the area of total mediocrity as the ships keep getting bigger and bigger and more powerful and then its just sort of silly.
Title: can this be made?!?!?
Post by: WMCoolmon on September 25, 2005, 02:59:28 am
1) You're gonna have to make it yourself
2) Before you make it yourself, get used to using better grammer. Unless you plan for it to be a joke campaign.
3) Go read a book, or play some other campaigns. Figure out what you like about them. Figure out what they did well, and what they did badly. Figure out how they kept you interested.
4) Then start writing the campaign.

I'm sure that there's a way for one Colossus to neutralize 80 Sathanases. After all, the Stargate writers came up with a semi-plausible way to wipe out virtually the entire fleet of a highly-advanced interstellar dictator playing god, using a black hole, a flying pyramid, and a two-story high grey ring.

Thrawn could've done it. :drevil:
Title: can this be made?!?!?
Post by: CP5670 on September 25, 2005, 03:20:53 am
Screw the Colossus. Alpha 1 will destroy the Shivans for good.
Title: can this be made?!?!?
Post by: Ace on September 25, 2005, 04:09:40 am
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Originally posted by WMCoolmon
Thrawn could've done it. :drevil:


Thrawn's a loser. Carter would kick his butt any day of the week.

If all else fails, Carter would kiss Thrawn and then he'd die as all of Carter's loves have... (well minus that stalker cop, but he doesn't count)
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Post by: TopAce on September 25, 2005, 04:12:43 am
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Originally posted by WMCoolmon
....2) Before you make it yourself, get used to using better grammer. ....


Now, who's talking!
You do know that you write your posts and mission dialogue in a different way... he would not use sum1 for example. Stop bashing newbies and people with bad grammar, it's so cheap. I know it is amazing and makes you feel happy, but you simply avoid the fact (again) that guests who read these kind of threads will never register and even attempt to make anything for the community.

I think HLP needs more bans. Wait... *rewords*... Admins must use the ban button more often.

As for the topic:
It would be possible anyway. The main problem is that we have very few(if any) what-would-have-happened-if campaigns. The majority deals with events after and before the events of FS2, not during. I only remember Neo-Terra to be a what-would-have-happened-if campaign, you play as the NTF there.
Other problem is, that people here hate the Colossus. They would be more amazed to see a mission where a Fenris destroys three Colossi (<-Has it been approved what the heck is the plural of 'Colossus' after all?).
Such campaign would also require a hell amount of missions. Destroying all the juggernauts? That would be at least 80 missions, not to mention that having Destroy the Sathanas-type missions becomes monothone and boring after a while.
If you have FREDding knowledge, enthusiasm and time to make such a campaign, you're welcome. I would certainly play it and beat it if you make it acceptably difficult.
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Post by: WMCoolmon on September 25, 2005, 04:13:27 am
Carter? :wtf:

Well, I guess that fits in with the overall munchiness of her character. But AFAIK Carter hasn't ever really been presented as a tactical genius, more good at coming up with ways to use bits of technology to achieve a goal.

That may sound the same, but there's a definite elegance to the way Thrawn went about things as opposed to Sam.
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Post by: WMCoolmon on September 25, 2005, 04:39:21 am
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Originally posted by TopAce


Now, who's talking!
You do know that you write your posts and mission dialogue in a different way... he would not use sum1 for example. Stop bashing newbies and people with bad grammar, it's so cheap. I know it is amazing and makes you feel happy, but you simply avoid the fact (again) that guests who read these kind of threads will never register and even attempt to make anything for the community.

I think HLP needs more bans. Wait... *rewords*... Admins must use the ban button more often.


:wtf:

I'll keep that in mind the next time I try to come up with useful suggestions.
Title: can this be made?!?!?
Post by: ShadowWolf_IH on September 25, 2005, 08:28:37 am
do you guys remember the Thrawn vs Bosch thread?  I still got to go with Thrawn on that one.
Title: can this be made?!?!?
Post by: mikhael on September 25, 2005, 09:42:41 am
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Originally posted by TopAce

Now, who's talking!
You do know that you write your posts and mission dialogue in a different way... he would not use sum1 for example. Stop bashing newbies and people with bad grammar, it's so cheap. I know it is amazing and makes you feel happy, but you simply avoid the fact (again) that guests who read these kind of threads will never register and even attempt to make anything for the community.
*BLAH BLAH BLAH*


Point of order: WMCoolman made a mistake of spelling, not grammar in his post speaking about ZmaN's grammar.
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Post by: Kie99 on September 25, 2005, 09:55:51 am
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Originally posted by mikhael


Point of order: WMCoolman made a mistake of spelling


Bit like this one. :p
Title: can this be made?!?!?
Post by: CP5670 on September 25, 2005, 10:41:15 am
I love threads like this. :D
Title: can this be made?!?!?
Post by: Boomer on September 25, 2005, 11:36:02 am
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Now, who's talking!

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he would not use sum1 for example.

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Point of order: WMCoolman made a mistake of spelling, not grammar in his post speaking about ZmaN's grammar.

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Bit like this one.

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I love threads like this.

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Just thought you might like to see this. :rolleyes:

Please don't ban me.....:nervous:
Title: can this be made?!?!?
Post by: TopAce on September 25, 2005, 11:38:54 am
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Error: Punctuation, Fragment, Passive Voice
Suggestions: In his post speaking about ZmaN's grammar, WMCoolmon made a mistake in spelling, not grammar.


Spelling is a part in a larger whole called grammar.
Title: can this be made?!?!?
Post by: Galemp on September 25, 2005, 12:31:43 pm
:lol: Wow. Awesome.
Title: can this be made?!?!?
Post by: Nuclear1 on September 25, 2005, 12:52:02 pm
:lol: Did you hear that? That's the metaphorical train flying off of the tracks. :lol:
Title: can this be made?!?!?
Post by: BlueFlames on September 25, 2005, 01:07:37 pm
Okay, first of all, using MS Word's grammar checker is a bad, bad, BAD idea.  Grab yourself a copy of Hodge's Harbrace Handbook and learn the language yourself, instead of using Word as a crutch.  You'll find that Microsoft has a thing or fifty to learn about writing.  I don't care if they've gotten better since the last time I used the grammar checker, since there wasn't much of a way for them to have gotten worse.

Now to the point I was going to bring up, before seeing that travesty of copy-paste-F7 behavior...

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You do know that you write your posts and mission dialogue in a different way...

Speak for yourself.  About the only differences in style between my posts and my mission text is that mission text is writen in character, and on rare occasion, I'll toss a smiley into a post.  If I couldn't pass something written off as at least a rough draft to an English professor, I don't consider it readable.  I hold others to a similar standard, as I'll skip over even potentially interesting threads, when the poster is incapable of demonstrating the slightest understanding of the language.
Title: can this be made?!?!?
Post by: Janos on September 25, 2005, 01:09:46 pm
hay guyz i think adama is better than akbar confirm/deny
Title: can this be made?!?!?
Post by: CP5670 on September 25, 2005, 01:19:23 pm
32 years after the Big War, we again let not us know almost nothing of the Shivans.  

Physically, the Shivans has the multiple, the eyes calm and five legs with the manipulative ones of claw as.  His insecte-comme coquille does not appear the original one the one to the physionomie of the creature, suggesting that the Shivans be a cybernetic merger of biology and the technology.  The integrated weapon of the plasma exposes also the property of an artificial organic merger.  The weapon can be a class to converge the device drives by the energy of the himself is, well that this point is the subject of heated controversy.  

These details is quoted as the proofs that the Shivans could not have evolved as the Terran or the type of Vasudan that they had, but that was probable constructs by another company.  Only a handful of Shivans never was captured, and every investigation in the spécimens live you finished with the rebellion of GTI Hells in 2335.  The results of these studies remain extremely classified.  

Well that the Shivans is evidently xenocidal, their motives and the origins has but to be determined you.  According to the Old devices, the Shivans seems to possess some class of the sensitiveness to the disturbances of under spaces.  We do not know if the Shivans returned itself to this corner of the galaxy by the coincidence, by the cycle or the indication, or by his discovery of the trip of under spaces terran-vasudan.  
Xenobiologists knows very small of the company of Shivan.  A front hypothesis is the theory of the spirit of the ruche, discussing this company of Shivan is broken in the specialized functions controlled by a collective intelligence.  The proof the more convincing now this theory is driven it forces of Shivan than continues the destruction of the Lucifer, the decisive point of the Big War.  The other experts notify against to attribute the property of insectoid al Shivans, in spite of their appearance and the conduit.  The communication of Shivan seems to arrive in the electromagnetic range, well that the efforts to decode their transmissions did not produce the significant results to date.  

Take it apart. :D
Title: can this be made?!?!?
Post by: FireCrack on September 25, 2005, 01:46:02 pm
[size=32]AUUUURGGGHHHH!!!!!!!!!!![/size]
Title: can this be made?!?!?
Post by: Boomer on September 25, 2005, 02:20:03 pm
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MS Word's grammar checker


:lol:  I know, I was just using the format because that's what I knew.  The actual spell\grammar checking came from me. :lol:

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Spelling is a part in a larger whole called grammar.


I counter your metaphor with an analogy!
"As spelling is to a word, grammar is to a sentence."


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Physically, the Shivans has the multiple, the eyes calm and five legs with the manipulative ones of claw as. His insecte-comme coquille does not appear the original one the one to the physionomie of the creature, suggesting that the Shivans be a cybernetic merger of biology and the technology. The integrated weapon of the plasma exposes also the property of an artificial organic merger. The weapon can be a class to converge the device drives by the energy of the himself is, well that this point is the subject of heated controversy.

These details is quoted as the proofs that the Shivans could not have evolved as the Terran or the type of Vasudan that they had, but that was probable constructs by another company. Only a handful of Shivans never was captured, and every investigation in the spécimens live you finished with the rebellion of GTI Hells in 2335. The results of these studies remain extremely classified.

Well that the Shivans is evidently xenocidal, their motives and the origins has but to be determined you. According to the Old devices, the Shivans seems to possess some class of the sensitiveness to the disturbances of under spaces. We do not know if the Shivans returned itself to this corner of the galaxy by the coincidence, by the cycle or the indication, or by his discovery of the trip of under spaces terran-vasudan.
Xenobiologists knows very small of the company of Shivan. A front hypothesis is the theory of the spirit of the ruche, discussing this company of Shivan is broken in the specialized functions controlled by a collective intelligence. The proof the more convincing now this theory is driven it forces of Shivan than continues the destruction of the Lucifer, the decisive point of the Big War. The other experts notify against to attribute the property of insectoid al Shivans, in spite of their appearance and the conduit. The communication of Shivan seems to arrive in the electromagnetic range, well that the efforts to decode their transmissions did not produce the significant results to date.


So that's what Bosch was saying to the Shivans at first contact....;)
Title: can this be made?!?!?
Post by: ShadowWolf_IH on September 25, 2005, 04:13:32 pm
well this thread no longer serves a purpose.