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Title: Marines in Space
Post by: achtung on October 02, 2005, 11:14:06 am
http://www.defensetech.org/archives/001815.html

Kind of interesting, I wonder if they will start just stationing marines in orbit in the near future?
Title: Marines in Space
Post by: Flipside on October 02, 2005, 11:31:03 am
Sounds like a lot of investment for extremely limited impact to be honest, you could only deliver small squads, and, you'd either need a good long runway to land on, or some kind of delivery systems like deployment pods. The former is unlikely to go un-noticed, and the latter is incredibly expensive, dangerous, and far from certain to be effective.

Until they start building full army bases in orbit, with resources and troops to conduct a heavy and prolonged combat, this is really just a gimmick.
Title: Marines in Space
Post by: vyper on October 02, 2005, 12:18:45 pm
Plus it could be considered weaponizing space.
Title: Marines in Space
Post by: Mefustae on October 02, 2005, 01:03:16 pm
'Considered'? If the US were ever dumb enough to commit enough resources to make this work, it would undoubtedly be construed as an act of War by nations such as China. The ability to place a fully loaded Marine Squad anywhere on the planet would be a serious threat to any nation on the planet, and would extremely detrimental to the political climate.

I always held the notion that Space was Neutral. Nobody owned it! Alas, it seems that US expansionalism/borderline imperialism knows no bounds :doubt:

While a moronic, even fanciful, idea, it can do only harm to humanity...
Title: Marines in Space
Post by: General Freak on October 02, 2005, 01:15:14 pm
So who's going to start off the 'Aliens' references? :)
Title: Marines in Space
Post by: Grey Wolf on October 02, 2005, 01:20:53 pm
I was actually waiting for something more along the lines of Warhammer 40k references.
Title: Marines in Space
Post by: Rictor on October 02, 2005, 01:38:15 pm
Another example of the US paying millions to develop a pen that writes in space, whereas everyone else just makes do with a pencil.

It makes me think that the US military policy brief reads something like:

1. Thou shalt waste money, lots and lots of money.
2. No seriously, a whole shitload of money.
3. Have you wasted most of your money? Good, how hand some out of friends in the military tech industry.
4. Money all gone? Don't worry, you'll get more.
5. Has Congress approved some ungodly sum to give you? Good, repeat Steps 1-4.
Title: Marines in Space
Post by: Deepblue on October 02, 2005, 01:49:40 pm
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Originally posted by Flipside
some kind of delivery systems like deployment pods


(http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/6756/space9qj.jpg)

(http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/4172/entry3vs.jpg)

(http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/4707/impact0vl.jpg)

(http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/8301/assault8sr.jpg)
Title: Marines in Space
Post by: Flipside on October 02, 2005, 01:54:48 pm
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Originally posted by Grey Wolf
I was actually waiting for something more along the lines of Warhammer 40k references.


Indeed, a bunch of your namesakes loaded up with Termy Armour, Cyclones and Jetpacks would be a whole other ballgame ;)
Title: Marines in Space
Post by: Ace on October 02, 2005, 04:03:22 pm
"We are Bush's chosen!"

"Beware the terrorist, the Frenchman."

"An open mind is a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded."

"As long as the enemies of Ronald Reagan still draw breath, there can be no peace."
Title: Marines in Space
Post by: TrashMan on October 02, 2005, 04:07:24 pm
Terminator units under US control?!

*shudders*

What a terrifying though!
Title: Marines in Space
Post by: Deepblue on October 02, 2005, 04:08:06 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Ace
"We are Bush's chosen!"

"Beware the terrorist, the Frenchman."

"An open mind is a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded."

"As long as the enemies of Ronald Reagan still draw breath, there can be no peace."


.... :wtf:
Title: Marines in Space
Post by: FireCrack on October 02, 2005, 04:38:05 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Ace

"An open mind is a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded."


is this one modified at all??
Title: Marines in Space
Post by: TrashMan on October 02, 2005, 04:56:57 pm
nope..

Although apart from thoise I can only remember:

"Into the Malestrom of battle!"

"Crush! Burn! Kill!"
Title: Marines in Space
Post by: aldo_14 on October 02, 2005, 04:59:05 pm
(http://www.sectorgame.com/aldo/aw/ss.jpg)
Title: Marines in Space
Post by: Nuke on October 02, 2005, 04:59:57 pm
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Originally posted by Deepblue


(http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/6756/space9qj.jpg)

(http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/4172/entry3vs.jpg)

(http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/4707/impact0vl.jpg)

(http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/8301/assault8sr.jpg)


you know they had those in quake 2, cept those more likely than not landed you into a pool of lava.
Title: Marines in Space
Post by: übermetroid on October 02, 2005, 05:17:20 pm
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Originally posted by Grey Wolf
I was actually waiting for something more along the lines of Warhammer 40k references.


:nod:
Title: Marines in Space
Post by: Ace on October 02, 2005, 07:41:34 pm
Quote
Originally posted by FireCrack


is this one modified at all??


Nope, because it's a perfect shrub quote as-is :p
Title: Marines in Space
Post by: Shrike on October 02, 2005, 09:46:05 pm
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Originally posted by Rictor
Another example of the US paying millions to develop a pen that writes in space, whereas everyone else just makes do with a pencil.
Actually, that's an urban legend.  :p

I've got an authentic space pen (damn handy actually, it fits in my wallet) and its got a little blurb about the history.  The US never paid a cent to develop the space pens, they were entirely private sector developed.   If I remember rightly the USSR uses/used them as well.
Title: Marines in Space
Post by: BlackDove on October 02, 2005, 09:49:43 pm
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Originally posted by aldo_14
(http://www.sectorgame.com/aldo/aw/ss.jpg)


Lost Souls? O.o
Title: Marines in Space
Post by: StratComm on October 02, 2005, 10:39:09 pm
Actually no, just random. (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,35460.0.html)

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Originally posted by Shrike
I've got an authentic space pen (damn handy actually, it fits in my wallet) and its got a little blurb about the history.  The US never paid a cent to develop the space pens, they were entirely private sector developed.   If I remember rightly the USSR uses/used them as well.


Yeah they just paid NASA to endorse them.  Which is actually somewhat ironic if you think about it.
Title: Marines in Space
Post by: aldo_14 on October 03, 2005, 04:26:23 am
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Originally posted by BlackDove


Lost Souls? O.o


Nope.  I released it in Modding (well, released sans some artwork and stuff, but the model was more or less done once Strattcomm fixed some bounding malarky) as while back and I'm an unashamed relentless pimper of my stuff :D.
Title: Marines in Space
Post by: deep_eyes on October 03, 2005, 05:31:57 pm
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Originally posted by Deepblue


(http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/6756/space9qj.jpg)

(http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/4172/entry3vs.jpg)

(http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/4707/impact0vl.jpg)

(http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/8301/assault8sr.jpg)


EXACTLY WHAT CAME ACROSS MY MIND...

ORBITAL DROP SHOCK TROOPERS BITSCHES!
Title: Marines in Space
Post by: Charismatic on October 03, 2005, 06:20:20 pm
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Originally posted by deep_eyes


EXACTLY WHAT CAME ACROSS MY MIND...

ORBITAL DROP SHOCK TROOPERS BITSCHES!


LOL!:lol:

Unlike the lot of you, i think its a sweet idea. Tho they need to manage it better and develope some wiked space shi*t also.

I think the more we get in space the better! The more we have outposts and sh*t orbiting, the closer we are to getting out there.

Tho unlikely, i want to be a fighter pilot in space someday. Even if i am a old man by then.
God do i wana be a space pilot.

They should create a ship to travel to a planet and colonize there. Very long trip very expensive, sure. But they can have grandkids and the grandkids can be the ones to arrive. Either way it can happen.

Hell, colonize marz. Its closer. The moon at least. We can stockpile supplies there, and then send out large expedition teams to create a structure in or on the surface.

Would be so flippin easy.
Title: Marines in Space
Post by: achtung on October 03, 2005, 06:40:50 pm
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Originally posted by Charismatic


LOL!:lol:

Unlike the lot of you, i think its a sweet idea. Tho they need to manage it better and develope some wiked space shi*t also.

I think the more we get in space the better! The more we have outposts and sh*t orbiting, the closer we are to getting out there.

Tho unlikely, i want to be a fighter pilot in space someday. Even if i am a old man by then.
God do i wana be a space pilot.

They should create a ship to travel to a planet and colonize there. Very long trip very expensive, sure. But they can have grandkids and the grandkids can be the ones to arrive. Either way it can happen.

Hell, colonize marz. Its closer. The moon at least. We can stockpile supplies there, and then send out large expedition teams to create a structure in or on the surface.

Would be so flippin easy.


It's an awesome idea but until we find something we want (ie. natural resources) out there, or another reason to move (overpopulation, global warming, etc.)we're sitting right here.
Title: Marines in Space
Post by: Deepblue on October 03, 2005, 08:47:34 pm
Quote
Originally posted by deep_eyes


EXACTLY WHAT CAME ACROSS MY MIND...

ORBITAL DROP SHOCK TROOPERS BITSCHES!


(http://xboxclanwars.com/v-web/gallery/albums/HALO-2/ODST.sized.jpg)
Title: Marines in Space
Post by: Charismatic on October 08, 2005, 06:39:50 pm
Time to spill some gold on the moon and start a 2nd gold rush...
Title: Marines in Space
Post by: neo_hermes on October 08, 2005, 07:32:40 pm
there's prolly something more valuable on the moon...
Title: Marines in Space
Post by: achtung on October 08, 2005, 07:59:59 pm
Land?
Title: Marines in Space
Post by: neo_hermes on October 08, 2005, 08:03:40 pm
no. a massive black monolith.
Title: Marines in Space
Post by: Ace on October 08, 2005, 08:11:25 pm
*Shhh* That's supposed to be a secret!

Arthur C. Clarke gets angry when people mention his friends, it brings attention.
Title: Marines in Space
Post by: aldo_14 on October 08, 2005, 08:15:22 pm
****, are you sure?

I heard it was cheddar.
(http://popcorn.cx/wg/films/gdo/images/cooker.jpg)
Title: Marines in Space
Post by: achtung on October 08, 2005, 08:29:33 pm
:lol:
Title: Marines in Space
Post by: Nuclear1 on October 08, 2005, 09:01:08 pm
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Hell, colonize marz. Its closer.


Nah. Colonize Venus. Then we can make dirty puns about the colonists. :D
Title: Marines in Space
Post by: TrashMan on October 09, 2005, 07:05:12 am
Men should colonize Mars and women Venus...

At least taht way that stupid book will be correct :D
Title: Marines in Space
Post by: Fragrag on October 09, 2005, 07:18:22 am
I suggest we colonize Uranus!
Title: Marines in Space
Post by: Mefustae on October 09, 2005, 07:29:13 am
This thread seems to have decended into a pit of stupidity from whence it may never recover...
Title: Marines in Space
Post by: achtung on October 09, 2005, 12:04:07 pm
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Originally posted by Mefustae
This thread seems to have decended into a pit of stupidity from whence it may never recover...


and don't ya just love it?:D
Title: Marines in Space
Post by: BlackDove on October 09, 2005, 01:45:40 pm
No.