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Modding, Mission Design, and Coding => The FRED Workshop => Topic started by: MrBig101 on October 03, 2005, 06:45:33 pm
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Has anyone ever attempted it? If so, was it any good? I think it would be awesome if the story was right and it was executed well.
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Hidden Terror (http://www.sectorgame.com/hiddenterror/) did, but it's not finished yet.
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It would be hard to exectute well..
How does a shivan chain of command look? what are their motives? How would their briefings/debriefings look like?
And most importantly - shivans have superiror numbers and tech on their side - ow do you make a challenging mission there without nerfing them totaly?
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Put Alpha 1 in the mission.
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Originally posted by Slasher
Put Alpha 1 in the mission.
no, it would have to be arjuna one..... lol
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Guess I'm gonna have to do some research on the shivans then...
That hidden terror campaign looked pretty cool, but it hasn't updated in a long time.
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Well it's not dead, it's just sleeping because of a lack of staff.
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Originally posted by TrashMan
It would be hard to exectute well..
How does a shivan chain of command look? what are their motives? How would their briefings/debriefings look like?
And most importantly - shivans have superiror numbers and tech on their side - ow do you make a challenging mission there without nerfing them totaly?
Put BFReds on all your wingmen's ships, make every single mission escort one, and disable the depart command.
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Originally posted by Ransom Arceihn
Well it's not dead, it's just sleeping because of a lack of staff.
"It's not dead, it's just sleeping"
:lol:
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Stick around...you may hear something about such a campaign sooner then you think :drevil:
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Ooooh!!!
Ooooh!!!
*Listens Attentively*
:D
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uhh..and...we are listening
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Desperation Chapter 4 or 5 will feature you fighting alongside the in shivan fighters, but most likely you'll be , under against the .
But I have to finish Chapter 3 first, as well as see what's screwing up chapter 2 so much :(
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Freespace 2: Distorted Reality
except 1 thing, it's kinda not done yet.
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Why not just retell the FS1 campaign from the Shivan's point of view?
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The problem is that you would probably run into Alpha 1 at some point and get owned.
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Kind of pointless IMO and would probably be heavily subject to our own take on events. More interesting I think would be an original story from the perspective of the Shivans, such as, again, Hidden Terror. I think rather than anyone starting a new campaign from the Shivan's perspective it would be a better idea to help out with that one.
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*remembers trying to make a Shivan campaign 2 years ago* *has failed* *has none of the missions*
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Why not just retell the FS1 campaign from the Shivan's point of view?
kinda impossible... no points are made and motives are never found (for the shivans)..
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The FS1 campaign would be rather fun, methinks. You could even have Alpha 1 cameo in some missions...like the mission where you have to scan the Lucifer; tell that from the perspective of the Shivans that launch from the Lucifer, or guarding the fleet. :D
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In the port of the FS1 campaign, there are parts of the Ancients' monologues which give some insight to their motives. The reference that comes to mind goes something like, "They are the destroyers, but also the protectors." *Crosses fingers and hopes that's right.* Maybe someone could extrapolate their motives off the Ancients' monologues.
Or you could retell the FS1 campaign where the Shivans win... ;)
But that could be a stretch...
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Right. Check that thread: http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,37231.75.html
And of course us :mad2: would like such a campaign :wakka: . Just us wouldn't have any briefings, as us is a collective - as you surely know...? ;)
Oh, and if Alpha1 appears in mission, that's no problem - just switch the player to the next ship (collective, remember? ;) ).
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Why don't someone re-create the Ancient - Shivan war, that happens before FS1 ???
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I have updated Inferno to allow full Shivan Support, that means the Docks (also for the Ancients), the messages.tbl, the ships.tbl (added descriptions, Countermeasures, selectable weapons, selectable ships, etc.), the weapons.tbl (added more weapons, descriptions, and make them selectables), the Shivan Ship Interface (Weapon LoadOut and Icons), added a Shivan Support ship, etc....
There are Shivan Ships from FS1/FS2 that has wrong DockPoints or don't have any, that are not present in Inferno, but if someone want really to make something, I can check the Dockpoints, of Shivan FS1/FS2 ships to correct or add the correct ones.
Plus if you use Inferno you will have a full selection of Ancients ships, but you could be the winner without the need of encounter yourself on the enemy side, I mean Alpha 1, an knowing the Ancient Juggernauts and Installations, I believe a really massive battle can be done, very much massive than FS1 and FS2.....
Even before read this thread that was my purpose for allowing Shivan Ships as selectables (that someone do a Campaign), I mean, how people will make Shivan Campaings, when they're hardly selectables ?
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Anyways, if Terran and Vasudans ships are not used, that would left space to put togheter FS1+FS2+Inferno Shivan's ships, which would make a really wide selection for players.............
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I guess since Volition is no longer around to reveal more about the Freespace universe such a project is feasible, but it will take quite a storyteller to make a convincing and unique picture of Shivan society or if it lacks a society, Shivans in general. There is a bigger risk of ending up being disapppointed - though I suppose no explaination would be better than a bad one