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Title: October Progress
Post by: Galemp on October 05, 2005, 12:50:45 am: Well, after a long period of inactivity, the wheels are moving again on ST:R. It's good to get working again, but we're reminded of why things went so slowly last time; Goober and I are debating everything from the name of the player's squadron to the types of weapons the Hades uses to whether or not the PVD Pinnacle was involved in the Battle of Deneb. None of it really matters, of course, but we both have far too many ideas. :rolleyes:

Many older missions are having new life breathed into them. Old, unremarkable missions like The Wait, The Return to Ross 128, and Cloak and Dagger are full of new dialog, exciting events, unexpected twists and sinister connotations. New missions await to fill in the gaps and extend the scope of the original campaign. Command and Mission Briefings and Debriefings are informative, comprehensive, and tailored to the player's performance. The balance is flexible enough to scale with the skill level, but challenging enough to not bore seasoned players. The overall experience is completely immersive, and the conclusion is deeply satisfying.

Goober and I are really looking forward to releasing this, and we're cooperating as best we can to get it done. We hope you enjoy playing it as much as we're enjoying making it, particularly with fresh eyes and ears. Rest assured, we're aware of your patience, and it will be rewarded.
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Post by: Trivial Psychic on October 05, 2005, 09:05:46 am: This should be under the news section on the Port website.
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Post by: Galemp on October 05, 2005, 09:23:56 am: Sounds like a plan.
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Post by: Goober5000 on October 05, 2005, 10:11:20 am: On that note, if any of you guys have suggestions for squadron names, we'd love to hear them. :nod: Remember the player starts out on the Krios as Special Ops and ends up on the Soyakaze as Intelligence. We don't have a squadron changeover currently, but it wouldn't be hard to add one.

The problem with our current squadron name is that it's very similar to the name of one of our missions. Both are very good names respectively, but because of their similarity they might cause confusion.
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Post by: CaptJosh on October 05, 2005, 02:09:30 pm: Well, since they're spooks and SpecOps people, How about Wraith, Ghostrider, Phantom...

Seeing a pattern? :D
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Post by: Admiral Nelson on October 05, 2005, 02:25:26 pm: Here's a whole bunch you can use:

USN Squadron Names (http://www.aeronautics.ru/archive/reference/USN_Squadron_Names.htm)

The best is VAW-78.... :)
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Post by: Trivial Psychic on October 05, 2005, 09:28:04 pm: Follow suit with FS2... use animal names.
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Post by: Singh on October 05, 2005, 09:35:17 pm: 52nd Screaming Weasels ftw!! :D ;)
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Post by: Deepstar on October 06, 2005, 05:29:10 pm: 17th Flying Wasps
and
61st Snakebites

I like it ;)

EDIT: Uhh.. i wrote 17nd and 61nd, sorry :(
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Post by: achtung on October 06, 2005, 10:22:27 pm: How about Black Omega or something?

Or maybe the 19th Raccoons :nervous:
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Post by: CaptJosh on October 07, 2005, 12:09:55 am: Black Omega is a B5 thing. It's an elite Psi-Corps starfury squadron.
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Post by: Mongoose on October 07, 2005, 12:23:11 am: It also happens to be a mission name in FS1 :)
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Post by: Cobra on October 07, 2005, 06:46:53 pm: 49th Flaming Eagles?

:nervous:
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Post by: Nuclear1 on October 07, 2005, 08:02:03 pm: 182nd Blackbirds (I thought of it after remembering about the SR-71 recon aircraft)

125th Desert Foxes (named after a US bombing campaign to halt violence in Iraq; sound like Silence All Voices?)

58th Contras (before this gets political or anything, I'll explain: the word "Contras" is simply short for contrarrevolucionarios, or counterrevolutionaries; maybe a little too obvious?)

96th Nighthawks (named after the F117 stealth fighter)

37th Black Widows (an early name for the above aircraft)
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Post by: CaptJosh on October 07, 2005, 10:08:45 pm: I don't have a number, but how about the Spirits, for the B-2 bomber? Or Lancers for the B-1 bomber, an early low observability design.
Title: October Progress
Post by: Kosh on October 08, 2005, 04:33:47 am: Quote
Originally posted by Trivial Psychic
Follow suit with FS2... use animal names.

The 35th howling monkeys ;)

But then again the 99th Skulls were not named after an animal....
Title: October Progress
Post by: T-Man on October 08, 2005, 05:04:01 am: I noticed that names can sometimes be related to the role of the wing. For example

243rd Sparrowhawks = Interceptor specialists (fast bird-of-prey)
258th Condors = Heavy bomber specialists (Big Bird)
108th Nigh****chman = SOC/GTI Wing (stealthy)

EDIT: AAARGH!! I GOT BLEEPED! It's got a swearword in the spelling. That should say 108th Night-watchman, people.
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Post by: Flaser on October 08, 2005, 08:08:50 am: On Squadron numbers:
In the WWII German Army it was tradition to reserve some numbers - namely the 9-hundred numbers for elite units.

Something similar could be done here too, like using the number zero for spec-ops or intelligence units - kinde like 'They're a Double Zero Unit? God save us, we're all DOOMED!'
(Which incidently is a nice tip of the hat toward James Bond).

...and ridiculous names are things that you either live up to or shame down on.
These have potential:
35th Howling Monkeys
52nd Screaming Weasels

Something of my own:
13th Black Cats
11th Stone(d) Dragons
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Post by: achtung on October 08, 2005, 07:20:06 pm: 67th Pink Panthers :D
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Post by: CaptJosh on October 08, 2005, 11:14:31 pm: Lead by Squadron Commander Jacques Clouseau, no doubt?
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Post by: Mefustae on October 08, 2005, 11:33:21 pm: The 22nd Wacky Wombats!! Or perhaps the 51st Jumping Kangaroos!! :D
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Post by: Singh on October 08, 2005, 11:44:34 pm: 76th Charging Rhinos - heavy assault squadron?
102nd Mighty Mice - recon/strike squadron?
241st Blackjacks - 'all rounders' perhaps?
256th Vampires - surgical strike squadron?
155th Dark Cobras - fighter/interceptor squadron?
167th Glorious Elephants - heavy/medium bomber squadron?
189th Kamikaze Kites - interceptor/strike squadron?
143rd Anacondas - assault/fighter squadron?
171st Dark Jaguars - Stealth/deep strike squadron?
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Post by: CaptJosh on October 09, 2005, 07:47:53 am: I don't much like the idea of a Vampire squardron. But that's mainly because a "vampire" in navspeak is an inbound anti-ship missile.
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Post by: GT-Keravnos on October 19, 2005, 10:35:00 am: Ok, I' ll chime in, not only just to quote a name but also to once again say...

THANK YOU! as loudly as can be heard for all the hard work you guys have comitted in this, and how it will all work out for the best of us all. We all love FS, and having it been reborn is nothing but miraculous in my book. Now that my nose is really brown :D I can release the names...

23rd Raving Rhinos
11th BlitzPigs (sorry couldn't resist) :D
45th Grumpy Oldmen

59th Howling Hyainas
49th Sitting Bulls
99th Terra Firmas

and the piece de resistance

13th Grateful dead :nod:
Title: October Progress
Post by: Selectah on October 19, 2005, 11:44:34 am: The 13th Grateful Dead gets the unconditional support of the Joint Chiefs Of Staff and the President of the High Council of Selectah.

As a result, by direct presidential order, the matter regarding the naming of the thirteenth squadron is now resolved without need for further proceedings.

Thank you for your anticipated co-operation.
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Post by: NGTM-1R on October 19, 2005, 01:24:34 pm: 112th Interceptor Squadron "Angels High"
12th Recon Wing "Phantoms" (Loki/Valkyrie anyone?)
21st Heavy Bombardment Squadron "Hammers"
174th Medium Bomber Squadron "Novas"
307th Heavy Fighter Squadron "Black Death" (works nicely for a specops unit, don't it?)
20th Recon Wing "Eyes and Ears"

And, for a different feel, Vasudan squadron names if you should ever need them for some reason. (Although personally, because Vasudans place such an emphasis on language, I think they only name elite units.)

2nd Scout-Bomber Squadron "Wrath"
129th Fighter Squadron "Steadfast"
402nd Interceptor Squadron "Grace"
42nd Heavy Fighter Squadron "Death"

You could also raid the list of squadrons aboard the Aquitaine.
Title: October Progress
Post by: Osiri on October 19, 2005, 11:57:08 pm: I like vasudans
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Post by: Galemp on October 20, 2005, 12:11:51 am: who doesn't? :D

Thanks to everyone who gave suggestions. I'll talk these over with Goob.
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Post by: phreak on October 21, 2005, 07:47:32 pm: 69th [insert random sexual innuendo here]
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Post by: Nuclear1 on October 21, 2005, 08:32:46 pm: :lol: :lol:

Me senses a DEM II by the time this is over. :lol:
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Post by: Black Wolf on October 22, 2005, 01:57:50 am: Quote
Originally posted by Singh
76th Charging Rhinos - heavy assault squadron?
102nd Mighty Mice - recon/strike squadron?
241st Blackjacks - 'all rounders' perhaps?
256th Vampires - surgical strike squadron?
155th Dark Cobras - fighter/interceptor squadron?
167th Glorious Elephants[/i] - heavy/medium bomber squadron?
189th Kamikaze Kites - interceptor/strike squadron?
143rd Anacondas - assault/fighter squadron?
171st Dark Jaguars - Stealth/deep strike squadron?

:lol:
Title: October Progress
Post by: Antares on October 22, 2005, 12:59:41 pm: If the player is part of GTI, then why not make him a member of the 99th Skulls?

On a slightly off-topic note, did you ever fix that Ross 128 mission so it would work under Windows XP, Goober? I never did get to play it...

Also, this is my first time on the forums in like, a year. :nervous:
Title: October Progress
Post by: Galemp on October 22, 2005, 02:06:22 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Antares
If the player is part of GTI, then why not make him a member of the 99th Skulls?

We have our reasons.
Title: October Progress
Post by: Goober5000 on October 22, 2005, 05:44:39 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Antares
On a slightly off-topic note, did you ever fix that Ross 128 mission so it would work under Windows XP, Goober? I never did get to play it...
I fixed it so it would play, at any rate. It needed a campaign file. New version is here:
http://www.sectorgame.com/goober/ross128.html

If you're having problems under XP then that's something different. Try running in compatibility mode.
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Also, this is my first time on the forums in like, a year. :nervous:
Welcome back. :)
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Post by: Kosh on October 24, 2005, 11:55:49 pm: I just thought of one:

The 312th BOFH
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Post by: CaptJosh on October 25, 2005, 12:37:48 am: You want to name a squadron the Bastard Operators From Hell?!

Geek! :D
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Post by: Fenrir on October 25, 2005, 12:54:09 am: Whoa. I'm gonna go install FS1 just to play that mission!
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Post by: Ace on October 25, 2005, 01:03:56 am: 288th Janissaries (some FS style not-so-subtle symbollism)
Title: October Progress
Post by: Selectah on October 26, 2005, 02:43:25 am: Since this seems to be the current ST:R thread, I noticed that in the MTMTE mission, some of the Vasudan messages are half lost in 640x480 res. The "chatter 6" msg is over four lines long in 640x480, and w/out VO, half the info is invisible. Just figured I'd point it out. Otherwise, brill job.

PS: Whilst nitpicking, how's about four different waypoints for Kappa's departure in the C&D mission? To avoid the amateurish bunching up and following intercollision stuff of the wing, y'know. Just to add that petite touche par excellence.
Title: October Progress
Post by: Galemp on October 26, 2005, 03:44:12 am: MTMTE?

Oh, and don't talk to us about nitpicking. Please. We've nitpicked these bastards so many times their scalps are raw and bleeding. :blah:
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Post by: Selectah on October 26, 2005, 04:17:15 am: Quote
We've nitpicked these bastards so many times their scalps are raw and bleeding.
:D LOL:D

MTMTE is jus' an abbrev of 'Moore Dan Meets Da I', 'fcourse. Hey, 'twas just a 1st impression. Please don't hurt me. :nervous: Oh yeah, the 'bunching up' of ships heading for the same waypoint is not your fault, it's Volition's.
Title: October Progress
Post by: Goober5000 on October 26, 2005, 10:27:28 am: Acronyms expanded for truth.
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Originally posted by Selectah
Since this seems to be the current ST:R thread, I noticed that in the More Than Meets The Eye mission, some of the Vasudan messages are half lost in 640x480 res. The "chatter 6" msg is over four lines long in 640x480, and w/out VO, half the info is invisible. Just figured I'd point it out. Otherwise, brill job.
It is four lines long in 640x480. It needs to be one message because it's one idea.

We are planning voice acting, so it won't be that noticeable. And you can always press F4 to see the message log.
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PS: Whilst nitpicking, how's about four different waypoints for Kappa's departure in the Cloak and Dagger mission? To avoid the amateurish bunching up and following intercollision stuff of the wing, y'know. Just to add that petite touche par excellence.
We've taken care of that. In fact, we've rewritten that mission about five times.
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Post by: Selectah on October 26, 2005, 11:41:57 am: Yeah, I kinda figured that VoiceOver will take care of that.
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we've rewritten that mission about five times
Wow. Seriously admiring your attention to detail. Honestly.

Hey, those were just some first impressions. I'm sorry if I'm an insipid drag. Can't wait to see the finished product. You guys rule.