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Title: Ithaca..
Post by: Flipside on October 10, 2005, 08:26:58 pm
Saw this on Warpstorm, and thought some people here might find it interesting...

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-1804409,00.html

Apparently, they've (Archeologists, not the peeps at WS) located the original Ithaca, as opposed to the Island which is currently named Ithaca, it's quite an interesting tale ;)
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Post by: Mongoose on October 10, 2005, 09:05:31 pm
Wow, very cool :)
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Post by: BlackDove on October 10, 2005, 09:14:56 pm
Mweh, nice for them, call me when they locate Atlantis.
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Post by: Flipside on October 10, 2005, 09:30:01 pm
Well, Plato's Critias does provide equal or more detail on Atlantis to Homers earlier writings on Ithaca, so if the techniques used here have helped to find the original Ithaca, you never know ;)
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Post by: Sigma957 on October 11, 2005, 02:41:32 am
Cool. :)
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Post by: Mefustae on October 11, 2005, 02:58:47 am
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Originally posted by BlackDove
Mweh, nice for them, call me when they locate Atlantis.
I seem to recall reading about some theories naming a Minoan city as the origin of the Atlantis myth...
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Post by: vyper on October 11, 2005, 05:29:48 am
Coolness.
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Post by: Grey Wolf on October 11, 2005, 02:05:07 pm
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Originally posted by BlackDove
Mweh, nice for them, call me when they locate Atlantis.
The Ireland theory, perhaps?
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Post by: StratComm on October 11, 2005, 06:12:15 pm
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Originally posted by Mefustae
I seem to recall reading about some theories naming a Minoan city as the origin of the Atlantis myth...


I'm fairly certain that Plato just made Atlantis up.
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Post by: BlackDove on October 11, 2005, 06:20:56 pm
Like Homeros made up Ithaca?
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Post by: StratComm on October 11, 2005, 06:53:55 pm
No, like "use this city as a metaphor for society" since it never actually existed.  Homer's got a track record of using actual places, even if they weren't contemporary to his time (Troy).  Plato does not.
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Post by: karajorma on October 11, 2005, 06:59:28 pm
Thing is that the Minoan civilisation bears many resemblances to the story Plato tells.
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Post by: Ford Prefect on October 11, 2005, 07:07:38 pm
If he could invent Socrates, he could invent a city. :D
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Post by: Grey Wolf on October 11, 2005, 07:58:11 pm
Ireland also matches the physical description perfectly.

And Ford: Plato did not invent Socrates, you idiot.
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Post by: Ford Prefect on October 11, 2005, 08:01:48 pm
I was joking, Mr. Silly Bear.

God damn, I knew someone would get angry over that.
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Post by: BlackDove on October 11, 2005, 08:07:19 pm
:lol:

So misunderstood.
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Post by: Grey Wolf on October 11, 2005, 08:07:34 pm
It's a silly theory that won't die. Anyway, we have two different direct students of Socrates: Plato and Xenophon.
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Post by: Ford Prefect on October 11, 2005, 08:10:33 pm
Yes, and besides that, we have Aristophanes' ridicule that is almost certainly about Socrates, (and that probably got him executed.)
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Post by: Charismatic on October 11, 2005, 09:17:06 pm
Ithica.. is the place where the girl took off her...
(Road Trip)
and thats all i know. Was too distracted.
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Post by: Grey Wolf on October 11, 2005, 09:17:35 pm
Wrong Ithaca.
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Post by: Charismatic on October 11, 2005, 09:27:43 pm
Oh..yeah. Sorry. :D
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Post by: karajorma on October 12, 2005, 03:48:22 am
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Originally posted by Grey Wolf
Ireland also matches the physical description perfectly.


Except for the whole volcanic eruption followed by flooding thing. :p
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Post by: Grey Wolf on October 12, 2005, 09:59:56 am
Flooding it actually fits, and no account mentions a volcanic eruption, but rather an earthquake.
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Post by: Flipside on October 12, 2005, 10:04:15 am
We've actually had evidence in the last 12 months that such a thing most certainly can happen :(