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Title: Alexa toolbar
Post by: aldo_14 on October 11, 2005, 04:59:24 pm
Am I the only one seeing a small advert for this at the bottom of the forums?

I'm running ad-aware, but not detecting anything.  It's not cropping up on any other pages, either.

Moved to Hard Light forum. // Sandwich
Title: Alexa toolbar
Post by: vyper on October 11, 2005, 05:25:55 pm
Yeah it's there for me too. Sarnie's subscription to his statistic program run out? :p
Title: Alexa toolbar
Post by: BlackDove on October 11, 2005, 06:36:17 pm
Rolling over the link = redirect "cosmeticsisrael"

....

Sandwich? :p
Title: Alexa toolbar
Post by: Sandwich on October 11, 2005, 06:55:21 pm
Yeah, sorry guys - I meant to post a new thingy about it.

StatCounter sent us an email saying that their free service only goes up to 250,000 pageviews a month, and we surpass that at over 9,000 pageviews per DAY. So they suspended service.

So I dug up this old defunct account I had with HitsLink from a few years back, back when they had a free package when you signed up through an affiliate program. Long story short, the account wasn't in use, so I redeemed it. Unfortunately, you can change everything about the account but the login name, which is what "cosmeticsisrael" is. :p
Title: Alexa toolbar
Post by: Hippo on October 11, 2005, 06:58:47 pm
rofl
Title: Alexa toolbar
Post by: Sandwich on October 11, 2005, 07:00:54 pm
We've got some interesting stats already; I'll post a sampling in a min...
Title: Alexa toolbar
Post by: Sandwich on October 11, 2005, 07:04:28 pm
Thread moved to Hard Light.

Browser Version      Visitors   Percent 
 Firefox 1.0      157      42.55%
 MSIE 6.0      153      41.46%
 Opera 8.x      18      4.88%
 Firefox 1.4      16      4.34%
 Safari 41      9      2.44%
 Mozilla 1.7      5      1.36%
 Netscape 7.0      3      0.81%
 Netscape 8.0      2      0.54%
 Opera 7.x      2      0.54%
 Safari 31      2      0.54%
 Firefox 1.6      1      0.27%
 Firefox 0.9      1      0.27%
 Total 12:      369      100.00%
Title: Alexa toolbar
Post by: kv1at3485 on October 11, 2005, 07:12:24 pm
Why, I do believe that single 'Firefox 1.6' would be...

ME!

:D
Title: Alexa toolbar
Post by: Kamikaze on October 11, 2005, 07:14:42 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Sandwich
Browser Version      Visitors   Percent 
Firefox 1.0      157      42.55%
MSIE 6.0      153      41.46%


That's a pretty impressive percentage for Firefox. :D:yes:

Out of curiosity, do they do OS stats too?
Title: Alexa toolbar
Post by: Sandwich on October 11, 2005, 07:19:21 pm
Yup.

Operating System   Visitors   Percent 
 Windows XP      105      83.33%
 Windows 2000      11      .73%
 Linux         5      3.97%
 Mac OS         3      2.38%
 Windows 98      1      0.79%
 Windows ME      1      0.79%
Title: Alexa toolbar
Post by: StratComm on October 11, 2005, 07:22:10 pm
Ok, who's still using ME? :p
Title: Alexa toolbar
Post by: Sandwich on October 11, 2005, 07:23:40 pm
Quote
Originally posted by kv1at3485
Why, I do believe that single 'Firefox 1.6' would be...

ME!

:D


Hmm... *cross-corellates forum IP with the web stats...*

[q]
Browser         Firefox 1.6
Platform      Windows 98
Language      English (United States)
Script Version      Javascript 1.3
Screen Resolution   1024 x 768
Color Palette      16.7 million colors (32-bit)
Java Support      Yes
Cookie Support      Yes
[/q]


Yup! :p ...scary, ain't it?
Title: Alexa toolbar
Post by: kv1at3485 on October 11, 2005, 07:25:58 pm
By the Union! :eek:

:nervous:
Title: Alexa toolbar
Post by: Sandwich on October 11, 2005, 07:28:27 pm
Quote
Originally posted by StratComm
Ok, who's still using ME? :p


That's what I want to know!

Unfortunately (or fortunately, perhaps), unless a person comes forth and states that they are using a specific OS, I can't find out what IPs are using what browser/OS/screen resolution without going through each visitor individually.
Title: Alexa toolbar
Post by: BlackDove on October 11, 2005, 07:31:36 pm
Well I'm the second 1.6 Firefoxer then.
Title: Alexa toolbar
Post by: Ford Prefect on October 11, 2005, 07:38:33 pm
How is there a Firefox 1.6 when 1.5 is still in beta testing?
Title: Alexa toolbar
Post by: BlackDove on October 11, 2005, 07:39:37 pm
You must search...
Title: Alexa toolbar
Post by: Grey Wolf on October 11, 2005, 08:19:26 pm
1.6 is the alpha for the post-1.5 builds.

1.4 is the beta for 1.5. I'm personally running 1.4.1 at the moment.
Title: Alexa toolbar
Post by: Hippo on October 11, 2005, 08:43:40 pm
Heres a quick one from the GTD Bastion, even though its quite dead...

(http://www.woodentoyandgift.com/stuff/browsum.png)
Title: Alexa toolbar
Post by: Charismatic on October 11, 2005, 08:56:15 pm
I beleive that Single ME is I. Works well.. alot better then XP (which i have one vote for the ME and the XP, as i use both).

So.. now that you know.... um..
Title: Alexa toolbar
Post by: MatthewPapa on October 11, 2005, 08:57:42 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Charismatic
Works well.. alot better then XP (which i have one vote for the ME and the XP, as i use both).


HERESY!!!
Title: Alexa toolbar
Post by: Mongoose on October 11, 2005, 09:01:35 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Charismatic
I beleive that Single ME is I. Works well.. alot better then XP (which i have one vote for the ME and the XP, as i use both).

I can personally (and painfully) attest that that's flat-out wrong :p
Title: Alexa toolbar
Post by: FireCrack on October 11, 2005, 09:05:08 pm
Quote
Originally posted by MatthewPapa


HERESY!!!



Heresy hardly begins to describe it... we enter a dark time....
Title: Alexa toolbar
Post by: Charismatic on October 11, 2005, 09:14:37 pm
Take it easy people! Lol. My XP is crap then. Cauze my ME works loads better then my XP. Loads..
Title: Alexa toolbar
Post by: Grey Wolf on October 11, 2005, 09:15:53 pm
That's amazing. You have an Millenium Edition that actually works? That's a first in the history of mankind.
Title: Alexa toolbar
Post by: Charismatic on October 11, 2005, 09:18:11 pm
Didnt yours? This is smooth as pie..
EDIT: Sweet! Score one for the underdogs!
Title: Alexa toolbar
Post by: Grey Wolf on October 11, 2005, 09:19:35 pm
I skipped Millenium Edition after seeing the havoc that it caused.
Title: Alexa toolbar
Post by: Corsair on October 11, 2005, 09:19:54 pm
What a victory for Firefox... crazy.

And um... Big Brother watching, much?
Title: Alexa toolbar
Post by: Charismatic on October 11, 2005, 09:26:44 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Corsair

And um... Big Brother watching, much?

Um.. :wtf:

GW: Havoc? What havoc?
Title: Alexa toolbar
Post by: Grey Wolf on October 11, 2005, 09:41:33 pm
Incredibly instability, for one. Both 2000 and 98SE were considered to be far, far more stable.
Title: Alexa toolbar
Post by: Singh on October 11, 2005, 09:46:40 pm
I used to install ME on a few customer's PCs and I used it as well.

It's pretty unstable, but there were times when it ran on a few custumer's systems, especially the older ones. It used to run surprisingly good on those systems...
Title: Alexa toolbar
Post by: BlackDove on October 11, 2005, 09:47:15 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Grey Wolf
That's amazing. You have an Millenium Edition that actually works? That's a first in the history of mankind.


I have two that work.

On my P200 computers. Works great. I never use them.
Title: Alexa toolbar
Post by: Primus on October 11, 2005, 10:01:46 pm
ME.

Sorry, again.
Title: Alexa toolbar
Post by: CP5670 on October 11, 2005, 10:38:27 pm
ME >> 98se.

I used it for two years on my main machine and it hardly used to crash at all, much more than I could say about 98SE. It's still used on my old game computer. I originally wanted 98SE on there for compatibility reasons, but installing any newer DirectX version together with one of MS's security patches seemed to make the OS unbootable, so I went back to the superior ME. The only problem with it is that D1 3dfx doesn't work well on it for some reason and exits to the desktop by itself very often.

I'm on Firefox 1.4 because I can't be bothered to upgrade these things very often.
Title: Alexa toolbar
Post by: phreak on October 11, 2005, 11:29:11 pm
I skipped over Mangled Edition and went straight to Xtra Problems.
Title: Alexa toolbar
Post by: Sandwich on October 12, 2005, 02:17:34 am
Quote
Originally posted by Charismatic
I beleive that Single ME is I. Works well.. alot better then XP (which i have one vote for the ME and the XP, as i use both).

So.. now that you know.... um..


What, you want me to look your stats up? Very well, if you insist...


Hmm, I can only look up the last 100 visitors to the site.
Title: Alexa toolbar
Post by: Fenrir on October 12, 2005, 02:28:39 am
*Loves Adblock to death* One right-click later and the problem is solved.

*Wonders how it is possible that people managed to get Mass Errors to be anywhere near stable*
Title: Alexa toolbar
Post by: Fury on October 12, 2005, 02:39:12 am
Slightly off topic now... Do you remove advertisements from the magazines you read for example? Nope, you just don't pay attention to them. Websites are using ads to cover the expenses it requires to keep the website running. This is quite an issue because most ads are keeping track of how many times it is being loaded and gives extra if someone clicks that ad. Now, you don't need to click any ads but blocking them is trouble to the website owner.

Although the magazine comparison does not quite fit, as the magazine has already gotten their money at the time.
Title: Alexa toolbar
Post by: Fenrir on October 12, 2005, 02:41:53 am
I was under the impression that most ads needed to be clicked to actually amount to anything (and I click ads veeeery rarely whether they're visible or not), not just be loaded. If the latter's the case, I'll curb my rampant ad blocking.

[Edit] It's also possible to set Adblock to load ads, but not display 'em. I could always do that, too.
Title: Alexa toolbar
Post by: Fury on October 12, 2005, 02:47:24 am
It depends on the ads really. While it might only a little sum of money website owner gets from each advertisement view, it becomes a quite large sum on websites which are visited regularly. Nearly all ads give more money if someone actually clicks the ads.

Now, I believe Firefox's adblock plugin can also only stop ads from being displayed but still allows all ads to be requested and downloaded by the browser. I am unsure how well it actually works and whether advertisement companies have developed means to work against this feature, but at least it should be a better alternative to complete blocking of ads.
Title: Alexa toolbar
Post by: Sandwich on October 12, 2005, 02:50:03 am
Some ads are PPC (pay-per-click), others are PPV (pay-per-view). This Alexa thing isn't an advertisement that is netting HLP or Gamespy any money though. What it IS doing is giving the staff here a detailed look at what kind of people visit our site, when things are busiest, how much server load we can expect, etc. Personally, I'd appreciate it if people left the Alexa thing unblocked. It's way down in nowheresville, it won't slow the loading of any pages (unlike the gamespy ads), and the only "tracking" it does is for the benefit of HLP directly.

BTW, if anyone would like to know a certain stat about HLP, I have no problem posting that. Just don't take the stats HLP gets as representative of the state of the net. ;)
Title: Alexa toolbar
Post by: Fenrir on October 12, 2005, 02:54:43 am
Eh, you're right. Alexa = unblocked. And I've found the option to toggle hiding ads and still letting them load as opposed to outright blocking 'em too.
Title: Alexa toolbar
Post by: Descenterace on October 12, 2005, 03:41:36 am
Quote
Originally posted by Mongoose

I can personally (and painfully) attest that that's flat-out wrong :p


As can I.

For the last six years I've been doing general Tech Support for friends, family and random Uni students.
Literally 80% of the hours were spent fixing WinME problems, which is surprising since only about 2% of the problems involved WinME.

In contrast, XP problems go away with a few mouse clicks.

[In particular, the clicks necessary for installing Spybot S&D, Firefox and Adblock. --ITDescenter]
Title: Alexa toolbar
Post by: Charismatic on October 12, 2005, 10:08:24 pm
Ok Now check my stats if u want too (dont know why u were going too but what the heck. It'd b interesting).
Title: Alexa toolbar
Post by: Kosh on October 12, 2005, 11:48:23 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Mongoose

I can personally (and painfully) attest that that's flat-out wrong :p



Ditto.


There is only one way to fix windows ME.........







format c:
Title: Alexa toolbar
Post by: kv1at3485 on October 13, 2005, 12:39:28 am
Ah, yes.  Never forget the "Three R's" of computers...

Reboot.
Reload.
Reformat.
Title: Alexa toolbar
Post by: Setekh on October 13, 2005, 01:25:12 am
One of those Linux users is me, from uni. :yes:
Title: Alexa toolbar
Post by: Sandwich on October 13, 2005, 06:04:54 am
Quote
Originally posted by Kosh



Ditto.


There is only one way to fix windows ME.........







format c:


Not reliable these days. You're looking for somthing along the lines of "format %SYSTEMROOT%". :p
Title: Alexa toolbar
Post by: Descenterace on October 13, 2005, 06:40:57 am
And for a misbehaving *n[iu]x install, there's always 'rm -rf /'.

Or 'nuke /' if you've got the same alias configuration I have.
Title: Alexa toolbar
Post by: Sandwich on October 13, 2005, 06:45:14 am
I always found such recommendations amusing, since they often amount to the computer equivalent of telling a snake to swallow it's own tail. :p
Title: Alexa toolbar
Post by: aldo_14 on October 13, 2005, 09:55:34 am
Quote
Originally posted by Sandwich


Not reliable these days. You're looking for somthing along the lines of "format %SYSTEMROOT%". :p


1/Pick up hammer by handle
2/Bash
Title: Alexa toolbar
Post by: Grey Wolf on October 13, 2005, 10:15:12 am
Use a sledgehammer. It's more effective.
Title: Alexa toolbar
Post by: Sandwich on October 13, 2005, 12:12:31 pm
BTW:

[q]
Screen Resolution   Visitors   Percent   
1024x768      592      44.41%   
1280x1024      411      30.83%   
1152x864      95      7.13%   
800x600         58      4.35%   
1280x960      47      3.53%   
1280x800      36      2.70%   
1600x1200      30      2.25%   
1680x1050      11      0.83%   
1920x1200      9      0.68%   
1280x854      8      0.60%   
1440x900      8      0.60%   
1280x768      6      0.45%   
1400x1050      4      0.30%   
1152x768      3      0.23%   
1360x1024      2      0.15%   
1536x960      2      0.15%   
Unknown         1      0.08%   
1280x976      1      0.08%   
1344x840      1      0.08%   
1274x962      1      0.08%   
1274x991      1      0.08%   
1280x720      1      0.08%   
2048x768      1      0.08%   
2400x1920      1      0.08%   
2560x1024      1      0.08%
2560x960      1      0.08%
768x1024      1      0.08%
[/q]
Title: Alexa toolbar
Post by: aldo_14 on October 13, 2005, 12:20:04 pm
:rolleyes:

Are you winding up to show off your huge throbbing shiny monitor again?

(ooh, matron)
Title: Alexa toolbar
Post by: Sandwich on October 13, 2005, 12:51:03 pm
Quote
Originally posted by aldo_14
:rolleyes:

Are you winding up to show off your huge throbbing shiny monitor again?

(ooh, matron)


Nahh, dude; I've been outdone. Someone has TWO of them:

[q]
2400x1920      1      0.08%
[/q]
Title: Alexa toolbar
Post by: aldo_14 on October 13, 2005, 12:53:01 pm
You could track down their IP and burglarize them.  Now that's thinking digitally!
Title: Alexa toolbar
Post by: Sandwich on October 13, 2005, 01:01:58 pm
Quote
Originally posted by aldo_14
You could track down their IP and burglarize them.  Now that's thinking digitally!


No, I can't. Unlike StatCounter, which lets you dig down from any type of stat to find anything else, HitsLink doesn't allow one to find out the IP of a user of a certain resolution.
Title: Alexa toolbar
Post by: Descenterace on October 14, 2005, 10:19:28 am
The 768x1024 will be my tablet PC.

The 2560x1024 will be my desktop PC (which has a static IP; DAMN!).
Title: Alexa toolbar
Post by: aldo_14 on October 14, 2005, 10:21:54 am
"Hello, is that Somerset balaclava rentals?  Excellent.  Oh, and do you do crowbars?.........."