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Title: What rank was Gibson?
Post by: aldo_14 on October 21, 2005, 05:44:22 am: Do we know? I think Sarno was a lieutenant, I'm not sure about Gibson atall.
Title: What rank was Gibson?
Post by: karajorma on October 21, 2005, 06:35:04 am: I don't think the rank of either is mentioned anywhere in the game.

I did a quick grep on both names and they only appear once in Return to Babel so unless another comment refers to one of them as the lieutenant I think you can make up the rank for both of them.
Title: What rank was Gibson?
Post by: aldo_14 on October 21, 2005, 06:44:02 am: Whee!
Title: What rank was Gibson?
Post by: WMCoolmon on October 21, 2005, 05:38:20 pm: Gibson was Janitor General.

He was cleaning the john when the Shivans boarded.

Sorry, couldn't resist. :p
Title: What rank was Gibson?
Post by: Admiral Nelson on October 21, 2005, 06:31:46 pm: C'mon, everyone knows Gibson's rank was 'MFP Senior Patrolman'.....
Title: What rank was Gibson?
Post by: Charismatic on October 22, 2005, 01:47:05 am: There was a gibson in fs2?
Title: What rank was Gibson?
Post by: Black Wolf on October 22, 2005, 01:58:41 am: Quote
Originally posted by Charismatic
There was a gibson in fs2?

Indeed. They took him, Sarno and about a dozen others.
Title: What rank was Gibson?
Post by: Galemp on October 22, 2005, 02:06:19 am: In the next mission they talk about recapturing Bosch and his Lieutenants, though that might just be lingo rather than actual ranks.
Title: What rank was Gibson?
Post by: NGTM-1R on October 22, 2005, 02:31:09 pm: I'm certain that was in the non-rank form of the word, myself. Aide-de-camp rank for an admiral is lieutenant commander, after all.
Title: What rank was Gibson?
Post by: aldo_14 on October 22, 2005, 04:26:47 pm: Likewise. Plus isn't lieutenant quite a low rank for what are presumably the command crew of a fleet (well, until the GTVA destroyed the NTF they were)?
Title: What rank was Gibson?
Post by: karajorma on October 22, 2005, 06:09:26 pm: Considering that the Iceni almost certainly would have had a captain it seems likely that either Gibson or Sarno is likely to be of that rank at least.
Title: What rank was Gibson?
Post by: pyro-manic on October 22, 2005, 07:21:34 pm: But then the guy speaking that part wasn't a high-ranking member of the Iceni's crew (or is unlikely to have been) - he was just the guy on the radio when Alpha wing showed up. Would he refer to the senior officers in that way, especially when talking to Command? Perhaps they were bridge crew, in the same place as Bosch when the Shivans hauled him off...
Title: What rank was Gibson?
Post by: aldo_14 on October 22, 2005, 07:25:42 pm: Quote
Originally posted by pyro-manic
But then the guy speaking that part wasn't a high-ranking member of the Iceni's crew (or is unlikely to have been) - he was just the guy on the radio when Alpha wing showed up. Would he refer to the senior officers in that way, especially when talking to Command? Perhaps they were bridge crew, in the same place as Bosch when the Shivans hauled him off...

Nah. From the following debrief, it seems pretty clear that those taken with Bosch were high-ranking officers. Besides which, the way they mentioned Gibson and Sarno by name IMO implies the speaker expected the player (i.e. GTVA) to know those people.
Title: What rank was Gibson?
Post by: Admiral Nelson on October 22, 2005, 07:28:58 pm: Typically, an Admiral's aide-de-camp is a Flag Lieutenant, or "Flags" for short.
Title: What rank was Gibson?
Post by: Stealth on October 23, 2005, 12:07:43 am: (http://www.gakkido.jp/EG-EB-img/guitar-electric-used/gibson-hc-dickey-betts-57-lp-goldtop-used-1.jpg)
Title: What rank was Gibson?
Post by: NGTM-1R on October 23, 2005, 02:02:07 am: Quote
Originally posted by Admiral Nelson
Typically, an Admiral's aide-de-camp is a Flag Lieutenant, or "Flags" for short.

That rank is...well, rather defunct as of today. It used to be an actual rank, but not anymore. I frankly don't see it being reactivated for any reason.

Lieutenant commander, and/or commander, is roughly the right level for a staff job while working for an admiral. On the other hand, that's for a line admiral. As Bosch is the leader of the entire NTF, he may well have captains on his staff.
Title: What rank was Gibson?
Post by: aldo_14 on October 23, 2005, 09:06:00 am: I don't think the implication was that these guys were staff, though, but big-wigs in their own right. I think lieutenant has a secondary meaning that, essentially, they can 'take over' from the head bloke. i.e. 2nd in command and soforth.
Title: What rank was Gibson?
Post by: Nuclear1 on October 23, 2005, 09:11:53 am: Quote
Originally posted by Charismatic
There was a gibson in fs2?

Indeed. (http://www.game-warden.com/gti/gibson.wav)
Title: What rank was Gibson?
Post by: Starks on October 24, 2005, 04:14:56 pm: What was the name of that skeptic comms officer on the GTI Riviera?
Title: What rank was Gibson?
Post by: karajorma on October 24, 2005, 05:01:41 pm: Ensign Whatthehellisthat :D

To be honest I've got no idea. She has what could possibly be a nametag on her uniform but with my eyesight it could just as easily say Polyester :D
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Post by: SuperCoolAl on October 24, 2005, 05:04:27 pm: Quote
Originally posted by nuclear1

Indeed. (http://www.game-warden.com/gti/gibson.wav)

Owned!
Title: What rank was Gibson?
Post by: Charismatic on October 24, 2005, 05:55:49 pm: Lol i remember now *(il listen to sound file later)*. When they took bosch.
Title: What rank was Gibson?
Post by: Goober5000 on October 24, 2005, 06:00:29 pm: Quote
Originally posted by karajorma
Ensign Whatthehellisthat :D

To be honest I've got no idea. She has what could possibly be a nametag on her uniform but with my eyesight it could just as easily say Polyester :D
Jackie (http://www.descent-freespace.com/goodies/gallery/cutscenes/) Polpolion (http://www.descent-freespace.com/goodies/gallery/cutscenes/cb2013.jpg), apparently. (The same nametag appears on both models.)
Title: What rank was Gibson?
Post by: aldo_14 on October 24, 2005, 06:40:12 pm: hehe;http://www.descent2.com/archives/articles/art0049.html

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