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Title: FS:FSP Ruteger 705B
Post by: Styxx on August 29, 2001, 10:59:00 pm
Description by Plasma, model and render by me, design based on the Vektor CP-1.


 (http://redfaction.volitionwatch.com/fsfps/img/ruteger01.jpg)  

This standard arms pistol to GTA marines looks like your every day pretty little pea-shooter, however the Ruteger 705B doubles as a lethal weapon. The power, accuracy, weight, rate of fire, flexibility, and reliability of the Ruteger has made it the standard pistol of the GTA for 26 years, now. Mostly recruits enjoy the usage of this gun as it's one of the most ergonomic, easy to use weapons in their available arsenel. Seasoned veterans often prefer the HG6000 -- a pistol with added weight and firepower.

Now go check the Freespace: FSP Website (//"http://redfaction.volitionwatch.com/fsfps")!


[edit: ops, linked to the thumbnail]

[This message has been edited by Styxx (edited 08-29-2001).]
Title: FS:FSP Ruteger 705B
Post by: 'Captain' Nick Brown on August 29, 2001, 11:55:00 pm
I have to get RedFaction!

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Title: FS:FSP Ruteger 705B
Post by: Fineus on August 30, 2001, 12:46:00 am
I like it! Looks like it should be in Aliens Vs Predator as someones personal weapon  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: FS:FSP Ruteger 705B
Post by: Nico on August 30, 2001, 06:47:00 am
 
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Originally posted by Thunder:
I like it! Looks like it should be in Aliens Vs Predator as someones personal weapon   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

No, the design is too bio. Alien tech is square. That's more a Final Fantasy gun  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif) (I have to stop with final fantasy, I know)
Title: FS:FSP Ruteger 705B
Post by: Shrike on August 31, 2001, 05:35:00 am
 
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Originally posted by venom2506:
No, the design is too bio. Alien tech is square. That's more a Final Fantasy gun    (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif) (I have to stop with final fantasy, I know)

Technically, Aliens is post-modern.... ie if it looks like you could find it in a modern military base, it's Aliens-esque.    (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

Oh, and the blue looks nice, but ditch it.  Same with the specular highlights.  A military weapon should be dull, a shiny object attracts the eye.

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Title: FS:FSP Ruteger 705B
Post by: Setekh on August 31, 2001, 05:50:00 am
Beautiful job  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif) Just a couple o' things? I agree with Shrike, make it less shiny - though it does look pretty cool with reflection.

And try (just a suggestion  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)) to give it a bit of texture. I don't know whether it would be better or worse, I would just like to see it.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif) Bump-mapping with a tiled map, maybe?

Oh, and it fires bullets, right? Where does the cartridge fit?  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: FS:FSP Ruteger 705B
Post by: Shrike on August 31, 2001, 05:52:00 am
Yeah, it looks nice shiny, but the thing is, it's not smart... and any soldier would coat the thing in gunblack to kill the shine.
Title: FS:FSP Ruteger 705B
Post by: wEvil on August 31, 2001, 05:56:00 am
i could make a nice chipped paint texture for that  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Title: FS:FSP Ruteger 705B
Post by: Shrike on August 31, 2001, 05:58:00 am
I don't think chipped paint is right either.... that's normally a symptom of poor weapons maintenance.  Just some kinds of dull polycarbonate high-impact plastic that you can launch out of a cannon and it won't break sounds about right.
Title: FS:FSP Ruteger 705B
Post by: Setekh on August 31, 2001, 06:06:00 am
 
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Originally posted by Shrike:
Just some kinds of dull polycarbonate high-impact plastic that you can launch out of a cannon and it won't break sounds about right.

Yeh, that sounds good. And you have to be able to whack people over the head with it.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: FS:FSP Ruteger 705B
Post by: Shrike on August 31, 2001, 06:09:00 am
 
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Shrike's argument
I'm a sticker for detail and a bit of a milnut.
Title: FS:FSP Ruteger 705B
Post by: Setekh on August 31, 2001, 06:49:00 am
 (http://www.descent-3.com/freespace/species/tsm0003.jpg)

Gonna get us one of these, Styxx boy?  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: FS:FSP Ruteger 705B
Post by: Pez on August 31, 2001, 08:12:00 am
Looks pretty cool Styxx. But it reminds me of a toy gun/soft air gun to much.

Pez
Title: FS:FSP Ruteger 705B
Post by: wEvil on August 31, 2001, 08:51:00 am
what makes you think most gtva soldiers would have the resources for good weapons maintenance?

Ahh..cant wait for my..errr..order..to arrive.

then i can start making some people of me own  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Title: FS:FSP Ruteger 705B
Post by: Styxx on August 31, 2001, 08:58:00 am
Hm, huh, I forgot to say that it's not finished yet. I didn't add some of the safety locks, didn't add the clip detail, didn't add the handgrip detail, and didn't really worked on textures - just applied the good old "Plain Metal" map to it and rendered. I'll post here when I have worked more on it.

And that other one is next on my weapons list.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
Title: FS:FSP Ruteger 705B
Post by: QXMX on August 31, 2001, 10:52:00 am
I like the design and the idea.  It's good that someone is interested in this aspect of FS that was never developed.  Hats off peoples  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Title: FS:FSP Ruteger 705B
Post by: Orange on August 31, 2001, 10:55:00 am
Hey! I'm the one who wrote the description!  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: FS:FSP Ruteger 705B
Post by: QXMX on August 31, 2001, 11:01:00 am
I can't wait till it comes out to see what you guys did with it.  Everything looks to be really well thought out and fun.   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Title: FS:FSP Ruteger 705B
Post by: Kazan on August 31, 2001, 11:04:00 am
is this an energy pulse weapon (Should be)

[edit]VERY nice site design, i mean VERY nice.

BTW: If you need a programmer I will gladly be your Coding B1tch[/i]

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Title: FS:FSP Ruteger 705B
Post by: wEvil on August 31, 2001, 11:54:00 am
anyway..how the hell could anyone make a plasma tokamak small enough to fit in a clip?



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Title: FS:FSP Ruteger 705B
Post by: The Claw on August 31, 2001, 12:17:00 pm
 The Tokomak is really only for fusion- plasma is just very very hot gas, so in that gun you'd have to have some kind of heating device and magnetic containment fields, plus magnetic acceleration coils etc. In fact, it'd need a hella high amount of energy.
Title: FS:FSP Ruteger 705B
Post by: wEvil on August 31, 2001, 12:40:00 pm
the tokamak is needed to contain the plasma.

the idea in initiating fusion is that the plasma fusing in the tokamak generator produces more power than is needed to confine it.

I cant possibly see how it would work in a handgun..by far the best idea ive yet seen is the heated plastic plasma gun from deus ex...which would be a big, fat brute anyway.

i can imagine some kind of disposable bullet that vapourises itself on launch..but that wouldnt go straight, air resistance would make it wobble around.

arrgh!
im thinking too much!



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Title: FS:FSP Ruteger 705B
Post by: Kazan on August 31, 2001, 03:26:00 pm
Hand held particle pulse cannon
Title: FS:FSP Ruteger 705B
Post by: Nico on August 31, 2001, 05:45:00 pm
bullet pistol maybe?  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/rolleyes.gif)
Title: FS:FSP Ruteger 705B
Post by: Ace on August 31, 2001, 10:30:00 pm
In the FS cutscenes we see projectile based weaponry with grenade launchers used. (no the Shivan does not explode as Mr. Adam Pletcher has said)

Remind you, that this is before FS1.

The Ruteger is a standard pistol type weapon firing it's projectile at an extremely high velocity.

Remember that it is technology several hundred years beyond ours, and it's a very high powered weapon.

As for the bullets themselves, they're sleek and designed for maximum penetration and areodynamics, the material is more then likely a form of degenerate matter such as crushed molybdenum.

These details aren't as important though, and folks like Ornaj, Plaz, and myself are still working them out through heated arguements whether Vasudans carpet their rooms with tongues or army boots  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)



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Title: FS:FSP Ruteger 705B
Post by: Setekh on August 31, 2001, 11:09:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by Ace:
As for the bullets themselves, they're sleek and designed for maximum penetration and areodynamics

What, no hollow point? It only fires FMJ?
Title: FS:FSP Ruteger 705B
Post by: Ace on September 01, 2001, 12:27:00 am
SUPAR DENSE full metal jacket  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)

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Title: FS:FSP Ruteger 705B
Post by: Shrike on September 01, 2001, 12:42:00 am
Must have a kick like a mule......
Title: FS:FSP Ruteger 705B
Post by: Setekh on September 01, 2001, 12:45:00 am
Yeah, so it'll go through people and hit whatever's behind the target. Ping!
Title: FS:FSP Ruteger 705B
Post by: Bobboau on September 01, 2001, 04:16:00 am
Ferofluid shock absorbers.

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Title: FS:FSP Ruteger 705B
Post by: Levyathan on September 01, 2001, 02:19:00 pm
Nice!   (http://www.ttlg.com/forums/ubb/thumb.gif)  

We could port it to Shock when it's finished. Just have to lower that poly count down to... 3.   (http://www.ttlg.com/forums/ubb/tongue.gif)  

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