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Title: Braces :(
Post by: Wild Fragaria on October 25, 2005, 09:45:39 am
I have an orthodontist's appointment this Thursday to get my braces, but I am still not feeling certain about getting the treatment.

4 teeth will have to be extracted for the treatment in the original treatment plan.  I spoke to my orthodontist that I wouldn't want to lose my good teeth and he suggested a new treatment plan.  It's a new technique just got approved less than 2 years ago -- putting small metal pins into the gum to help bush the teeth to make rooms.  I am feeling uncertain, not sure if I am scared of the new treatment method or the pain I am going to get for at least a couple of years.

Any comment?
Title: Braces :(
Post by: Inquisitor on October 25, 2005, 09:52:41 am
I removed the last bits of my own braces when I was 22, that was 14 years ago.

So I am the last person who should comment :)
Title: Braces :(
Post by: Janos on October 25, 2005, 09:58:00 am
if it looks really brutal and blood will pour out of your gums and you will scare little children then you should prolly go for it i mean it's the chance of your lifetime

think about all the chicks dude

THE CHICKS
Title: Braces :(
Post by: Martinus on October 25, 2005, 10:14:29 am
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Originally posted by Janos
if it looks really brutal and blood will pour out of your gums and you will scare little children then you should prolly go for it i mean it's the chance of your lifetime

think about all the chicks dude

THE CHICKS

[color=66ff00]To use your own vernacular; she is a chick, dude.

Probably is impressed by your sig too. :p
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Title: Braces :(
Post by: FireCrack on October 25, 2005, 10:18:31 am
You do know that extracted doesnt necesairly mean "removed". I had 1 tooth "extracted" and all they did was have it move to a new location ( and pull out of the gums more) by attatching extra braces bits to it. Make sure you know what your orthodontist means by "extracted"
Title: Re: Braces :(
Post by: aldo_14 on October 25, 2005, 10:19:42 am
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Originally posted by Wild Fragaria
I have an orthodontist's appointment this Thursday to get my braces, but I am still not feeling certain about getting the treatment.

4 teeth will have to be extracted for the treatment in the original treatment plan.  I spoke to my orthodontist that I wouldn't want to lose my good teeth and he suggested a new treatment plan.  It's a new technique just got approved less than 2 years ago -- putting small metal pins into the gum to help bush the teeth to make rooms.  I am feeling uncertain, not sure if I am scared of the new treatment method or the pain I am going to get for at least a couple of years.

Any comment?


IMO.... if the 2nd one won't result in a loss of teeth, then I'd go for it.  Either way it'll be unpleasant (well, unless they anaethetize you - then you may end up dreaming of Care Bears and fluffy pink clouds like last time I was in a dental hospital :D) but my instinct would be to go for toothy preservation here.

But in any case, it's not a call I or anyone else could make for you.  I'd suggest calling your orthodontist and asking to talk about it; part of his/her job involves dealing with people, not just teeth, so they they have a responsibility to offer reassurance / honest advice if requested.
Title: Braces :(
Post by: Wanderer on October 25, 2005, 10:20:08 am
I'm not sure you have any better sig Maeglamor...

I had braces and i'm now pretty happy with it (i wasn't when i had them). I would rather say that sooner you have them the better. Older you get longer it takes to complete the process.
Title: Braces :(
Post by: Martinus on October 25, 2005, 10:24:09 am
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Originally posted by Wanderer
I'm not sure you have any better sig Maeglamor...

[color=66ff00]The very thought of 'owning' a woman is an ironic joke in itself, not to mention finding some basis for comparing them to elephants. :)

In my experience it's the women that have the power in any relationship.
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Title: Braces :(
Post by: aldo_14 on October 25, 2005, 10:29:29 am
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Originally posted by Maeglamor

[color=66ff00]The very thought of 'owning' a woman is an ironic joke in itself, not to mention finding some basis for comparing them to elephants. :)

In my experience it's the women that have the power in any relationship.
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Like elephants.

But less grey, huge and wrinkly.

Well, sometimes.
Title: Braces :(
Post by: Janos on October 25, 2005, 10:34:01 am
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Originally posted by Maeglamor

[color=66ff00]To use your own vernacular; she is a chick, dude.

Probably is impressed by your sig too. :p
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but i just want you oh you big manlyman stud
Title: Braces :(
Post by: Martinus on October 25, 2005, 10:36:27 am
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Originally posted by Janos
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but i just want you oh you big manlyman stud

[color=66ff00]I am of course flattered, but must inform you that I am spoken for. :lol:
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Title: Braces :(
Post by: Drew on October 25, 2005, 10:37:45 am
braces are hell for the years people wear them, cosmetically and phsically, but they end up giving a beautifull smile.  Basically, when the doc gives you a new ajustment, youll have a hard time eating for about a week and a half, and your chances of picking up a chick is cut in half, but once the treatment is over youll probably have perfect teeth, and if you keep them nice and clean, youl notice that the few years of aches were worth it.

and for teeth exctractions, try to get the narcotic anestisia IV its fun as hell
Title: Braces :(
Post by: Janos on October 25, 2005, 10:37:58 am
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Originally posted by Maeglamor

[color=66ff00]I am of course flattered, but must inform you that I am spoken for. :lol:
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leave her i got money
Title: Braces :(
Post by: WeatherOp on October 25, 2005, 11:06:55 am
Braces aren't that bad, just got my top ones removed about 2 months ago, and am about to get my bottom ones off. And BTW, braces doesn't hurt bad, the worse time you will have is the first 3 days, but if you keep high on pain medicine, you will be fine. And then as Drew said, when they tighten them, you will be sore, allthough not as bad as he said.

However your treatment is a whole lot worse than mine, as I have only had to have a tooth uncovered. But, if it were up to me, I'd rather have the teeth removed, than have the pins in my gums. That hurts just thinking about it.:blah:
Title: Braces :(
Post by: Ford Prefect on October 25, 2005, 11:07:14 am
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...and your chances of picking up a chick is cut in half...

It looks like we have a majority opinion here-- Wild Fragaria must pick up chicks whether she wants to or not. Good luck playing for the other team.

All I can contribute is that my experience with braces wasn't too bad. They only hurt for an extended period of time after I first got them on. When I had them adjusted, I was never sore for more than a day. But I didn't have to get any teeth extracted for that, and I'm not at all familiar with that method of inserting pins in the gums, so I don't know what that's like.
Title: Braces :(
Post by: Janos on October 25, 2005, 11:57:50 am
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Originally posted by Ford Prefect

It looks like we have a majority opinion here-- Wild Fragaria must pick up chicks whether she wants to or not. Good luck playing for the other team.

All I can contribute is that my experience with braces wasn't too bad. They only hurt for an extended period of time after I first got them on. When I had them adjusted, I was never sore for more than a day. But I didn't have to get any teeth extracted for that, and I'm not at all familiar with that method of inserting pins in the gums, so I don't know what that's like.


Your boring logic has no place here, Ford.

Leave before great harm comes upon you.
Title: Braces :(
Post by: Kosh on October 25, 2005, 12:46:13 pm
I wouldn't recommend the extraction option. They do numb the area pretty good or put you under, but the recovery period is a *****.
Title: Braces :(
Post by: Prophet on October 25, 2005, 02:21:47 pm
I used to have braces... All sorts of them. The treatment is free here to a certain point. And I was wery young at the time so I could have not cared less about them braces. Too bad the orthodontist's didn't like the fact that I wasn't wearing those irratating thingys when I should have, and aborted the treatment 'cos I wasn't "cooperating"... Despite my unwillingness they did manage to get my upper teeth somewhat straight before they dumbed me...
So at least my teeth look at least somewhat good at first glance...

When I was in the army they removed a back tooth from me. My friends had a good laugh when they heard me talking... My jaw was so numb from the painkillers. But when the drugs wore off it hurt so much much I had trouble thinking straight. Fortunatley the good doctor had given me some painkillers with me, and some serious stuff in case those didn't work. So I had a couple of those and spend the rest of the day in bed in some kind of half-aware state... It was kinda weird. But at least I had a damn good reason to skip the days service. Others were doing combat drills in the rain while I was in bed, having a wild trip.
:D
Title: Braces :(
Post by: Mongoose on October 25, 2005, 02:46:03 pm
My teeth are a little crooked, but I'd never even consider braces.  I went to an orthodontist once, and they rattled off about ten or twelve things that were "wrong" about my teeth.  The way I see it, if I can still talk and eat without any problems, there's not too much wrong with things, and besides, my regular dentists has never said anything about the matter.  There are cases where braces are applicable, but I have the distinct feeling that a lot of orthodontists out there will recommend them at the drop of a hat; they must make a pretty penny, too, considering how expensive the damn things are.
Title: Braces :(
Post by: SadisticSid on October 25, 2005, 04:05:36 pm
I'd say something useful, but all I could think of was this.

http://dentalplanlisaneedsbraces.ytmnd.com/
Title: Braces :(
Post by: Flipside on October 25, 2005, 04:18:54 pm
I wore braces for 6 years and had surgery on my jaw (basically it was broken in 5 places and moved to where it should be.
From a surgical point of view it was brilliant, nothing wrong with the work at all, but what dentists don't tell you is that braces damage the veneer on your teeth, so regardless of the fact the bones in my jaw are nice and fixed, my teeth need constant work because they do not have the protection of an enamel layer, and it's quite likely that I will have to have all my teeth replaced my crowns within the year, at 33 years old. So be careful and make sure your dentist keeps you up to date with what he/she is doing.
Title: Braces :(
Post by: Wild Fragaria on October 25, 2005, 04:38:50 pm
Thanks guys, for all your feedbacks.  I still have about 18 hours to decide if I will keep my appointment or postpone it.

I have an outgrown canine but for most of the time, people don't notice it when I talk.  My family doesn't even remember I have that issue except my younger brother who occasionally teases me about it.  I have seen a couple of dentists in the past few years and both recommended that I should consider getting it fixed.  Well, I have taken the first step to get things started though I am still pondering about the treatment.

I know I should probably get it fixed (despite the pain I am worried about) to prevent my other teeth from further moving into the gap, where the outgrown canine was supposed to be.  And of course the sooner, the better.

FireCrack, my orthodontist did mean that I will have to have 4 teeth removed.

Kosh, I will stick to my little 'no extraction' rule because I really do not want to trade four good teeth for a canine to go back to its spot :)
Title: Re: Braces :(
Post by: Kamikaze on October 25, 2005, 05:58:57 pm
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Originally posted by Wild Fragaria
4 teeth will have to be extracted for the treatment in the original treatment plan.  


I had to get 4 teeth pulled to get my braces in, but it wasn't as big a deal as I'd thought. My orthodontist did the extraction the day before school started and I was worried about being dead the next day, but about 4 hours after the operation I was feeling pretty normal and the bleeding had stopped.

In my (admittedly short) experience with braces, most of the pain is in getting the wire added or adjusted.
Title: Braces :(
Post by: Nix on October 26, 2005, 12:31:52 am
First application is going to be hell, I'll tell you that much.  After that it gets much easier.  I mean, with the initial install, every tooth has moved slightly, and just that slight move is going to be pretty nasty for the first week or so.  Once they've moved to the place they're supposed to go, it's a lot easier.  After a month, you'll hardly notice them untill you go in for another adjustment.  Though, with time, like most things, it gets more and more bearable.  

Here's one thing too that's important.  Bands, on your molars, will trap all sorts of nasty stuff.  Be sure to brush every day, if your orthodontist is smart, he'll give you a flouride gel to brush with after normal brushing.  Rinse often.  Dont chew sugared gum or anything with lots of sugar in it cause it'll get inbetween the band and the tooth.  When I got my bands off, I had a little decalcification on my molars, which eventually led to having them drilled and filled later on.  

*obligitory horror story*
I had to have braces because I was missing a few permanent teeth.  A molar, and my two front lower teeth.  (goofy lookin eh?) After 6 months, a wire slipped out of the bracket right after I got an adjustment.  I went my 30 days till my next scheduled adjustment with the wire out cause they're damn hard to put back in yourself.  When I got back in, all the teeth had moved cept for the one that wasnt reinforced by the wire.  The orthodontist took the pliers and started *wrenching* the damn tooth/bracket back onto the wire.  People outside said he looked like he was working on a car or something with a ratchet.  my GOD that was painful, but after he got the bracket reattached to the wire, everything was okay.

So, be nice to your teeth with braces..
Title: Braces :(
Post by: Wild Fragaria on October 26, 2005, 08:34:52 am
Thanks for your input, Kamikaze, and Nix for your good advice.
Title: Braces :(
Post by: Fragrag on October 26, 2005, 09:14:35 am
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Originally posted by Ford Prefect

All I can contribute is that my experience with braces wasn't too bad. They only hurt for an extended period of time after I first got them on. When I had them adjusted, I was never sore for more than a day. But I didn't have to get any teeth extracted for that, and I'm not at all familiar with that method of inserting pins in the gums, so I don't know what that's like.


Here to, got them around six months ago, just some pain after every adjustment. And a third or so kids in my grade (Eighth) have braces, so it's not that noticable.