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General FreeSpace => FreeSpace Discussion => Topic started by: Styxx on April 16, 2002, 02:10:36 pm
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Anyone has a good doc listing the naming conventions for the Freespace Universe? I mean, all of it, including:
GTVA Fighter and Bomber Wings
GTVA Transport Groups
GTVA Captial Ships - per capship when it applies
Shivan Fighter and Bomber Wings
Shivan Transport Groups (?)
Shivan Captial Ships - per capship when it applies
GTI Fighter and Bomber wings (maybe from Silent Threat)
I wasn't able to find a good compilation, if anyone can link me to one, I'd appreciate. Thanks.
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In FS2 all hostile fighter/bomber wings are named after zodiac signs.
GTVA fighter/bombers are named after latin alphabets, with Lambda reserved for terran transports.
But just check out this (http://pub11.ezboard.com/fjtofrm11.showMessage?topicID=29.topic) and this place in general (http://pub11.ezboard.com/fjtofrm11)
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Originally posted by Stunaep
In FS2 all hostile fighter/bomber wings are named after zodiac signs.
GTVA fighter/bombers are named after latin alphabets, with Lambda reserved for terran transports.
But just check out this (http://pub11.ezboard.com/fjtofrm11.showMessage?topicID=29.topic) and this place in general (http://pub11.ezboard.com/fjtofrm11)
Greek alphabet...:rolleyes:
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Cool, but I meant something more on the lines:
Terran Fighters: Greek letters, Alpha to Epsilon
Terran Bombers: Greek letters, (...) to (...)
Vasudan Fighters: Greek letters, (...) to (...)
Vasudan Bombers: Greek letters, (...) to (...)
Shivan Fighters: Zodiac Signs, (...) to (...)
Shivan Bombers: Zodiac Signs, (...) to (...)
GTI Fighters: (whatever), (...) to (...)
GTI Bombers: (whatever), (...) to (...)
Thanks anyway, that helped. :)
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I would imagine everything after Epsilon would be appropriate for GTVA freighters, transports, etc. (although, Zeta, Iota, and Kappa have been used for GTVA fighter wings).
I imagine capital ships (both from GTVA or enemy cruisers, corvettes, destroyers, juggernauts) can be named anything. Here's a little reference for such names: http://www.pantheon.org/areas/all/articles.html
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Friendly wings (any species): Greek letters, Zeta should not be used in SP missions due to a bug in the game, Lambda and Omega are generally reserved for transports
Terran ships: A number of things: Greek gods, famous battles, famous related people (i.e. GTD Einsenhower, GTSC Einstein), glorious-sounding words (i.e. NTC Impervious, this is more for NTF ships), real life ships, any Greek letters except Alpha through Zeta (more for transports)
Vasudan ships: Egyptian gods and places
Enemy wings (any species): zodiac signs and constellations
Shivan ships: both Hindu and Christian/Judaic gods (FS1 had more Hindu and FS2 had more Christian/Judaic, but both games had some of the other types as well)
Ancient ships: Minoan gods and places
That's about it. :)
Greek alphabet...:rolleyes:
That is exactly what I think of all those math people trying to look smart by putting weird z's and y's in their stuff. :p
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Search is A-1 SUPAR!!
I shouldn't have to be doing this for you
Wing names: http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,6498.0.html
Capship naming scheme: http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,6526.0.html
And I recall someone made a document containing all the capship names in all Freespace games. But you have to search for that one yourself
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Originally posted by CP5670
Friendly wings (any species): Greek letters, Zeta should not be used in SP missions due to a bug in the game, Lambda and Omega are generally reserved for transports
And what bug is that? I've had no problems with Zeta wings.
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If you are a Terran fighting against OTHER Terrans, their wings should be named for colors, like Red, Blue, Yellow, etc. I think they did this in Silent Threat for the GTI, and it adds a bit off..Alikchi-ness to your campaign. :nod:
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It depends on which faction it is you're talking about. Or on who's writing the campaign.
This is the way I do it:
GTVA wings: Alpha-Tau (but not Lambda, Iota, Zeta, or Kappa)
Shivan wings: Zodiac signs
Rebel faction: Colors
Mercenaries: Medieval weapons (Halberd, Pike, Rapier)
Pirates: Pirate-related things (Parrot, Hook, etc)
Rebel faction #2: Predatory animal names (Tiger, Wolf, Lion, etc)
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If you are a Terran fighting against OTHER Terrans, their wings should be named for colors, like Red, Blue, Yellow, etc. I think they did this in Silent Threat for the GTI, and it adds a bit off..Alikchi-ness to your campaign. :nod:
Yeah, but the FS2 convention seems to be zodiac signs for everything. ;) FS1 had slightly different naming conventions for the wings:
Friendly wings (Terran): same as FS2
Enemy wings (Terran: colors
Friendly wings (Vasudan): zodiac signs
Enemy wings (Vasudan): zodiac signs
Enemy wings (Shivan): Hindu gods
There is some room for flexibility with these things though (especially due to the FS1/FS2 difference), so as long as the names don't sound really silly, they can probably be changed around a bit. ;)
And what bug is that? I've had no problems with Zeta wings.
I just tried putting a Zeta wing in a test mission and it seemed to work fine. However, I distinctly remember putting in a Zeta wing in a mission a few months after FS2's release and the game crashing whenever the briefing ended and the mission was started. I eventually traced the problem to the wing name. (a few other people also reported this) Maybe it was something they fixed in the patch. Anyway, I rest my case. ;)
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Originally posted by Crazy_Ivan80
Greek alphabet...:rolleyes:
I was sleepy, stupid and generally in a hurry. Greek alphabet of course :doh:
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Originally posted by CP5670
There is some room for flexibility with these things though (especially due to the FS1/FS2 difference), so as long as the names don't sound really silly, they can probably be changed around a bit. ;)
You mean like SFr Satyanarayana?? (I actually had a freighter named that in a mission once :D ).
Oh, and you do have theFS2 Reference Guide (http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/fs2/refguide/fs2refguide.chm) , right?
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You mean like SFr Satyanarayana?? (I actually had a freighter named that in a mission once :D ).
Oh, and you do have theFS2 Reference Guide (http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/fs2/refguide/fs2refguide.chm) , right?
lol yeah some of those Sanskrit words are really long. :D (just like in German, small words are put together to make big words)
I have that guide as well, but it isn't really accurate as far as the wing names go. (although the lists themselves can be useful) It has some other useful information, however.
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Now everything makes sense. Thanks everyone! :nod:
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I think all hostile wings are named after the Zodiac.... check the first SOc loop.
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you can name your capships after large/famous citys as well
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Originally posted by aldo_14
I think all hostile wings are named after the Zodiac.... check the first SOc loop.
In FS2 they are. In FS1 there are different naming conventions (for example when you were flying against traitor terrans, their ships were named Traitors Alpha, Traitors Beta, etc.)
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Originally posted by CP5670
That is exactly what I think of all those math people trying to look smart by putting weird z's and y's in their stuff. :p
Yep, when I still used to have math I always ended up saying to myself: 'Doodle 1 plus doodle 2'.... you get my drift :p
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I just call everything x and y because I'm so used to that... :D
I don't even know how to say a few of them, such as the letter à or the partial derivative sign ¶, but I see them everywhere. :p
Take this (http://mathworld.wolfram.com/FractionalIntegral.html) for example; what was the point in putting in those stupid gammas (g and G) and xis (x) when they could have used just about anything else. And then there is that blasted integral sign ( ò ) that is impossible to write correctly. (although aside from this greek letter mania, this stuff is great :D)
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Originally posted by Stunaep
In FS2 they are. In FS1 there are different naming conventions (for example when you were flying against traitor terrans, their ships were named Traitors Alpha, Traitors Beta, etc.)
Is this Silent threat you're referring to? (Didn;t have that). BTW, were the HOL/ pre GTVA-Vasudans given the same wing names as the Shivans in FS1?
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Originally posted by aldo_14
Is this Silent threat you're referring to? (Didn;t have that). BTW, were the HOL/ pre GTVA-Vasudans given the same wing names as the Shivans in FS1?
Nah, haven't played Silent Threat, but from what I've heard, its no like I've missed something.
I was referring to the (stupid mission names, stupid brain of mine) mission where you have to disable Alex McCarthys transport.
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Originally posted by Stunaep
Nah, haven't played Silent Threat, but from what I've heard, its no like I've missed something.
I was referring to the (stupid mission names, stupid brain of mine) mission where you have to disable Alex McCarthys transport.
Oh yeah.... now I remember that.
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Here are those mission names from FS1
FS1
1-Eve of Destruction
2-The Field of Battle
3-Small Deadly Space
4-Avenging Angels
5-Out of the Dark, Into the Night
6-Paving the Way
7-Pandora's Box
8-The Hammer and the Anvil
9-The Darkness and the Light
10-First Strike
11-The Aftermath
12-The Big Bang
13-La Routa Della Fortuna
14-Where Eagles Dare
15-Tenderizer
16-Shell Game
17-Enter the Dragon
18-Playing Judas
19-Evangelist
20-Doomsday
21-Exodus
22-Last Hope
23-A Failure to Communicate
24-Reaching the Zenith
25-Running the Gauntlet
26-Black Omega
27-The Clash of the Titans
28-The Great Hunt
29-Good Luck
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FS2 naming convention for hostile wings is Zodiac signs, as Aldo said, although I think I recall encountering an Arjuna wing somewhere in the main campaign. In general, use zodiac signs, unless you have hostiles of different species in the same mission, in which case you might go for one of the other conventions (like colours, for example).