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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Reppyboyo on June 05, 2004, 01:35:20 pm
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http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/06/04/news_6100019.html
Soooo, could this mean anything for Freespace, since I think they still hold the rights to Freespace or whatever.
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http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,23091.0.html
Scroll down to the 01-06 posts.
Didn't know they were fully closed down just yet though.
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My bad, just noticed it on HardOCP.
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Someone just told me this on Darkspace...HUZZAH!
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Also,
$079,000
$179,000
$432,000
$156,000
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$846,000
If they got 1,2 million, why don't they pay up, and spent the last four hundred grand on golden handshakes and drinks for everyone?
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mwuahhaha.
Bastards got their come-up-ins.
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Egad! And not before time, the pillocks.
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Got to feel sorry for the ordinary employees, though. ....
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they'll probably be able to find some work with other companies. Interplay had some good stuff earlier, just not too much recently.
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Ever since they started FPS and console stuff they deserve what happened.
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Don't panic, Lester will save us!
(http://www.gamespot.com/gamespot/features/all/remakes/061403/screens/ootw1.jpg)
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I had that game for my snes :)
ahh, those were the days.
Bloody hard game, but great fun
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omg i loved that game!!!11one
Makes me want to dig out my old stuff...
Too bad it's probably all rusted :p
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Wow, this is all hapening so fast. It is interesting.
I have a noob question but; Why dosent anyone know who has the Fs rights, why is it not published somewhere that the public can read?
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and now the once-mighty juggernaught begins to falter, and to fall, and all the corporate scavengers await to pick over what is left.
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Originally posted by XVC
Wow, this is all hapening so fast. It is interesting.
I have a noob question but; Why dosent anyone know who has the Fs rights, why is it not published somewhere that the public can read?
Read the thread link I posted at the top of this thread.
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Created By Gamers for Gamers
Shut down by Government Officials for Government Officials ;)
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AnotherWorld 0wns. Still have it on my Amiga :)
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Originally posted by Reppyboyo
Soooo, could this mean anything for Freespace
if you mean a completely new release (i.e. Freespace 3) then no, it won't
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why not?
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Originally posted by Stealth
if you mean a completely new release (i.e. Freespace 3) then no, it won't
No offense but your not involved in any Interplay procedings, therefore you saying this wont happen is coming from less then an official source.
There is a chance it may get picked up and sold to a company to be developed, but if we think about it, Freespace 2 is hardly heard about between gamers, so i doubt it will get a sequel but you never do know. Ive seen crazier things happen in the gaming industry.
Can FS3 happen? Yes, certainly. When it comes to developing games, if someone finds out that this game can make them some cash they will begin developing it.
Interplay being owned is the best thing to happen to the Freespace series, atleast now it has a small chance of being developed whereas before Interplay just wanted to bury the title.
When it comes to games, they make the ones people will buy. Does FS have enough fans to warrant another game now? No. Will it in the future? Who knows....
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maybe we can incorporate and make FS3 once were not stepping on someone's rights anymore!
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Originally posted by Lonestar
No offense but your not involved in any Interplay procedings, therefore you saying this wont happen is coming from less then an official source.
No offense, but neither are you ;)
Interplay's dead. and even if they weren't, i guarantee you they weren't even thinking about making another Freespace title. there aren't any Interplay "proceedings"
Admit it, Freespace 2 didn't sell near enough to warrant making a Freespace 2. not even close to enough. And it's not the game's fault, it's the company's fault. Go ask someone if they've heard of or played Freespace 2, chances are 99% of the time they'll say "no". it's not like they played it and hated it, it's they never played it (or even heard about it) in the first place. it's a shame.
There is a chance it may get picked up and sold to a company to be developed, but if we think about it, Freespace 2 is hardly heard about between gamers, so i doubt it will get a sequel but you never do know. Ive seen crazier things happen in the gaming industry.
Can FS3 happen? Yes, certainly. When it comes to developing games, if someone finds out that this game can make them some cash they will begin developing it.
I honestly haven't. Gaming comanies don't go pick up some small title and decide to make a sequel out of it. Because they don't want to take the risk of it not ("making some cash"), even if they throw all the advertising and effects they can into it. The closest thing we'll have for the Freespace series is the source code project. Throw your energy and effort into helping with that, not into wishing for a Freespace 3, which as we both agree, chances are will never happen. :(
Don't think i'm being negative, because i guarantee you i want a sequel as much as all of you do :) but hoping and hoping and hoping for it isnt going to help the game get a sequel. And in a way i don't ever want to see a sequel. Because if one is ever made, you know it's going to be some stupid, poorly developed, console game. We all know what a great game it was, that should be sufficient enough :nod:. There is a future in the SCP... not a chance for a sequel, but a future nonetheless!
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Actually.......we have chance of a sequel.
No, not some #$@$# sequel a big company can develop. We dont need them.
Once Ferrium is ready, we will have the tools, we will have the textures - we will have everything, and then......all we need, all we need is the story. Get the ex-designers to fess up about that, and a sequel can be done almost immediately with the current tools at hand; but doing it on Ferrium would bring much more prestige to SCP's might.
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Stealth: Why are you trying to be a killjoy for no reason? No duh, Intercrap's dead. That's why we are happy. Intercrap dead = FS rights go somewhere else. With the FS rights somewhere else, that leaves a chance that that somewhere else will decide to do something with them. Simple as that.
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
Stealth: Why are you trying to be a killjoy for no reason? No duh, Intercrap's dead. That's why we are happy. Intercrap dead = FS rights go somewhere else. With the FS rights somewhere else, that leaves a chance that that somewhere else will decide to do something with them. Simple as that.
Why do you always look so far to the 'bright side' of things that you fail to see the simple, plain, truth. NO ONE in their right mind is going to attempt to make a sequel to a game that barely broke even, and that no one's heard of! Game companies don't think "oh, but the former game rights holder didn't publicize the game enough, so we'll make a sequel, and publicize it right, and it'll make us millions. $$$" they don't want to risk it. it's not. going. to. happen. grasp that fact. the fact that Freespace 2 was a dead loss thanks to advertising and publicizing is made even worse by people saying "But there is a chance of FS3 in the future!!111".
the source code project, and ferrium (as was mentioned) is THE only chance of a sequel we'll ever see. so get used to it... and stop sobbing about how there "might" be a FS3 one day. be happy with what you already have.
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You're being overly defensive for no reason and making up things I never said. No, Freespace will probably not have a third installment. That doesn't mean that there is a possibility however. The fall of Intercrap only increases that possibility, however inconsequential that increase might be, it is something to hold onto for the optimists around.
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Not to mention it makes it less likely MVEs will be so illegal.
Although it does mean PXO will probably be down permanently.
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KT: true.
WMCoolmon: Doesn't Volition own PXO? I think it does, though i could be wrong. If so, then i don't think it will mean the end of PXO, since Volition is still going strong (so it seems anyway :) )
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But, Volition is WHOLLY owned by THQ and only makes console games though.
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All the PXO code was removed when the source was released because, IIRC, Interplay had patented it. So unless Volition bought PXO, no, I don't think so.
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i wonder if they took PXO down if a private company or individual could offer to keep it running online, on his connection, just for the poor sucker(s) that want to get online now and then and play a game or two
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Wasn't the PXO source code released a little while back? I remember reading about it.
I always thought the PXO code was removed to prevent cheating.
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no the PXO code was NOT released
PS: you need to merge this with the other thread on this topic, because this one seems to be asking questions answered long ago in the other
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Originally posted by Kazan
no the PXO code was NOT released
That's what I thought but I could swear blind I saw a post from someone claiming it had been released (This was after you'd already got multiplayer running so no one paid much attention to it). IIRC it was over on VWBB not here.
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well PXO's website is down now, and has been down for some time.
has anyone tried playing on FS1 or FS2 to see if PXO still works? i assume it does, because i'd bet the Descent 3 guys would put up a fuss if it just went down
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Interplay reopens, Titus declares bankruptcy (http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/06/08/news_6100200.html)
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GRAB TITUS'S STOCK IN INTERPLAY LIKE MAD!!!
Titus Controls 73% of interplays stock! It's going to be selling dirt cheap! GRAB GRAB GRAB!
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Originally posted by Stealth
has anyone tried playing on FS1 or FS2 to see if PXO still works?
Has been down for a couple of weeks already.
And its future doesn't look too promising, if it ever has...
http://www.teamwars.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2997
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Kinda off topic, whats the best way to buy stock online?
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Originally posted by ubermetroid
Kinda off topic, whats the best way to buy stock online?
The best way? You don't. Ever. At all. :doubt:
If you want to invest do it through credible sources and not via the Net.
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I thought net investing was how everythign got done these days... Looks like I am goin gto have to do some learn abit more before I start investing.
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Indeed.
Net investing might seem cheap, but it might be very risky. Always take a bank you can walk up to and slam the manager in the face.
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"In other news today, Interplay, now worth a grand total of $20, was purchased by a group of people associated with something they'll only refer to as HLP. Authorities are now investigating what HLP is exactly and what they plan to do with the company..."
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"Welcome to the 10 o'clock business news. My name is Jane and I'm your host for tonight.
After the long expected bankruptcy of the game developers company, Interplay, a dedicated group of Freespace fans bought the explusive rights to the game. Their intentions are as of yet unknown but has already attracted great attention from the gaming community."
*cut to documentation sequence*
Narrator: "For years fans have enjoyed the Freespace games and now it seems that it's legacy will continue. The main Freespace community, known as HardLight Productions, have bought the rights to the game and are already in the planning phase of the long awaited Freespace 3. For long it has been a taboo to even discuss Freespace 3 amongst the die hard fans but after this recent event, that has changed quite a bit."
*cut to interview with Setekh*
Interviewer: "Mr. Setekh, I understand that you are the so-called 'leader' of this community. Is this correct?"
Setekh: "...No... We have no leader. That is the beauty of this occurance. We have moderators, yes, to keep things in check but further it is all up to the fans."
*out of nowhere a large red beam disintegrates Setekh's arm*
Interviewer: "What the..."
Setekh: "As you can see, some of us do still need a leader though. Some of us being Carl. But most of the time we lock him up in the airducts and throw in a limb or two from some unknown lurkers to keep him happy."
Interviewer: "I see... Well, Jane, as you can see, it's a lively bunch over here. Back to you!"
*cut to main screen*
"This was all for todays business news. Goodnight."
*light dim as ending music plays*
*lights flare up and music ends abrubtly*
"Ladies and gentlemen, this report from HLP just came in. They report that Carl is on the loose. It;s description; a 12 feet high arachnid with a beam cannon mounted up front. Has a taste for arms and other limbs but mostly for Headz. HLP asks you to keep an eye open and call them at 555-0HLP if you see him... or her (we don't know).
Thank you and goodnight!"
*light dim as ending music plays*
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:p
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nice :P
i wonder if we contact the right people, if they'd let us run our own version of PXO... like, if we offer to pay all maintenance charges. it'll be "no skin off their noses", and we can still advertise them. it'll just be nice for all the D3, FS1, FS2, etc. people to still play...
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Actually we always act as if it's just us. Why not team up with the fans of Baldur's Gate, Descent and Fallout amongst others.
There probably are enough hardcore fans of interplay games that we could actually buy a controlling interest in the company and asset strip it.
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Originally posted by karajorma
Actually we always act as if it's just us.
Are there other Freespace people out there?
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he means that there were other good games published by Interplay and that they have communities too. :)
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Originally posted by redsniper
he means that there were other good games published by Interplay and that they have communities too. :)
Exactly. The fans of Baldur's Gate are probably just as pissed as we are about the situation. Probably more of them too. I'm guessing that Interplay may even have the source code for that game since IIRC Black Isle was an in-house dev team.
While we FS2 fans might be the only ones interested in the rights to FS2 I'm sure there are a large number of similar sites to ours dedicated to other games that Interplay saw fit to crap on.
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i still don't see how we'd benefit... without massive amounts of funds. :p
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Interplay stocks are going for 5ct a peace. I have no idea how many there are in total, but once we somehow get 51%, we can order Interplay around.
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*Doing internet search on Interplay stocks*
EDIT:
What does all of this mean?
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=IPLYE.OB (http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=IPLYE.OB)
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Originally posted by kasperl
Interplay stocks are going for 5ct a peace. I have no idea how many there are in total, but once we somehow get 51%, we can order Interplay around.
4.69 millions stocks.
Thats 2.345 million x .05 = $117250 = 50% share
Got the dough? :D
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120 grand? Not off hand. Think they'll take a cheque?
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and besides. it wouldn't be worth it anyway. what would we get out of it? the "rights" to Freespace? big deal... would it be worth $120,000+? not likely. then you've got to pay to have it made and all that. naaa. if i was a multi-millionaire then yeah, i'd take a crack at it, but for now, naaa ;)
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I thought Interplay only had like 50% of Freespace... When did they get it all?
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they've always had it all 'cuz they're the publisher
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So :V: has no rights to it at all?
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I've got $25..
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wait a sec if all of interplay is worth $230k, how much _could_ just the rights to freespace (game nobody gives a damn about that sold poorly 5 years ago) be?
normaly I'm pesemistic about this sort of stuff but, if the whole company is only worth $230 then there might be a hope.
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In dire times, it is necessary to dire tasks to make the money we need for the rights to our precious.
So what may you do to further our great community? Whore yourselves, family members and friends to make that 120 grand!
Now all we need is a motto....
Whore your mother, so we can have another!!
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Originally posted by Bobboau
wait a sec if all of interplay is worth $230k, how much _could_ just the rights to freespace (game nobody gives a damn about that sold poorly 5 years ago) be?
Stock value means very little. At the time of the big Apple crash a few years back the companies value fell to $4 Billion. At the time they had $10 Billion in the bank. Had anyone been in a position to buy they could have doubled their money and got a computer company thrown in for free :lol:
It's quite possible for the stock value of a company to be less than the value of its assets.
That said I still believe the rights for FS2 might be available cheaply.
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Originally posted by kasperl
120 grand? Not off hand. Think they'll take a cheque?
Probably not one dated '1/1/2210'