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Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: aldo_14 on June 11, 2004, 07:26:30 pm: Wohoo!
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: an0n on June 11, 2004, 07:33:25 pm: I had my sister convinced Brazil were going to win Euro2000. Man, that was a funny few weeks.

And I think Ireland are going to do better than England.

And Germany are gonna win.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Unidan on June 11, 2004, 07:37:37 pm: Footy footy footy footy footy footy footy footy footy
ENGLAND! ENGLAND!
OHHHH IT'S A GOOOOAAAL (http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/35/)

From the man who brought you Badgers, Weebl and Bob, and Scampi. Weebl himself. :3
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Rictor on June 11, 2004, 07:42:51 pm: Personally, my support goes to Greece, France, or whoever manages to trounce Holland the worst.

have I mentioned lately how much I hate Azerbaijan?
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Liberator on June 11, 2004, 08:04:40 pm: I can't understand the rabidness of soccer fans. Sure each sport has it's own rabid fanbase, but soccer seems to me(an American non-fan) to have a much larger percentage of rabid "I'll severely beat you if you're for another team" fans. I can't really think of another sport that has a higher bodycount due to insane celebration. I mean, really, there have been numerous cases, in recent times(the last couple of years), where lots of people died from trampling by over-enthusiastic fans.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: an0n on June 11, 2004, 08:08:26 pm: American Football fans would be the same, but you guys just don't have any follow-through.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: diamondgeezer on June 11, 2004, 08:24:35 pm: Lib, if you watch or read news reports from over hear you'd know better - a lot of violence is instigated by small groups of dedicated hard-core thugs who use football as an excuse to start a fight. Police identify the ring leaders and confiscate their passports to try and minimize the risk of trouble abroad (you may have heard that England is constantly threatened with expulsion from competitions because of the violence)

The thing to remember is that football does not automatically equal violence, but yobs supporting one team will be more than happy to attack people in the shirt of another team.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Ghostavo on June 11, 2004, 08:25:32 pm: I have a bad feeling about this :nervous:
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: diamondgeezer on June 11, 2004, 08:30:01 pm: Well look, I wouldn't blame you for staying out to the way of the travelling England supporters. At the first sign of trouble, leg it :)
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: an0n on June 11, 2004, 08:37:12 pm: Pfff. Just buy an England shirt.

That way, the only people you have to worry about are the Turkish fans.

Murderous bastards.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Ghostavo on June 11, 2004, 08:39:55 pm: :lol:

Actually I wasn't thinking about the actual violence but instead of the games' results and the lack of sleep due to noise. :D
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Darkage on June 11, 2004, 10:52:28 pm: I hope Holland is out ASAP, so then i don't have to put up whit crazy suckers on the street and all those annoying orange flags that keep you awake.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Bobboau on June 11, 2004, 11:19:32 pm: "you may have heard that England is constantly threatened with expulsion from competitions because of the violence"

England.coolness++;
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Knight Templar on June 11, 2004, 11:19:56 pm: Bulgaria in the houuse!
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Martinus on June 14, 2004, 02:00:22 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Liberator
I can't really think of another sport that has a higher bodycount due to insane celebration.

[color=66ff00]Man you should see Green Bowls supporters, those gits drink the blood of their dead.
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Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Stunaep on June 14, 2004, 02:03:24 pm: Well, the portugal-greece match certainly was interesting. I sure as hell wouldn't want to be at portugal after that match.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Ghostavo on June 14, 2004, 02:05:04 pm: Oh well... :rolleyes: another year wasted... :(
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Rictor on June 14, 2004, 02:56:39 pm: BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

poor, poor Brits. You got owned to a degree I had previously thought impossible. Vive le France!

I made a little poem in your honour:
_____________

Never saw it coming
Zidane!
Thought you had 'em nacked
Zidane!

Beckam is a tard
Can't hit the broad side of a barn
You never reckoned with the likes
of Zidane!
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: aldo_14 on June 14, 2004, 03:09:18 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Rictor
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

poor, poor Brits. You got owned to a degree I had previously thought impossible. Vive le France!

I made a little poem in your honour:
_____________

Never saw it coming
Zidane!
Thought you had 'em nacked
Zidane!

Beckam is a tard
Can't hit the broad side of a barn
You never reckoned with the likes
of Zidane!

That's english, you twat.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Stunaep on June 14, 2004, 03:10:56 pm: Yeah, that made me like the frenchies that much more.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: vyper on June 14, 2004, 03:18:34 pm: Quote
Originally posted by aldo_14

That's english, you twat.

Indeed, even the dogs in our street were chuffed when france scored. :lol:

(And b4 I get any crap off any1 about it being wrong to support france again england, it's called rivalry and it happens in sport. )
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: karajorma on June 14, 2004, 03:22:51 pm: Congratulations on finally proving my long held belief that you're nothing but a troll Rictor
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: aldo_14 on June 14, 2004, 03:31:06 pm: Quote
Originally posted by karajorma
Congratulations on finally proving my long held belief that you're nothing but a troll Rictor

He's probably bitter his team never made it............

Y'see, that's the good thing about the Scots (and presumably the Welsh and northern Irish) - we know we're pish, so we don't mind getting beat as long as we can consume a few hundred units of alcohol, kiss a polcal police officer (preferably female) and piss in a fountain* in the town square.

*away games only
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Rictor on June 14, 2004, 03:34:28 pm: just now figured that out :lol: :lol:

No, really, its all in good fun. You can go ahead and make fun of my country for loosing out to Azerbaijan, thats way more humiliating than loosing to a world class team like France. The way I figure it, when it comes to sports and/or military rivaries , all bets are off.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Martinus on June 14, 2004, 03:38:12 pm: Quote
Originally posted by aldo_14

He's probably bitter his team never made it............

Y'see, that's the good thing about the Scots (and presumably the Welsh and northern Irish) - we know we're pish

[color=66ff00]Actually over here the unionists support england and the nationalists support the Republic.
N. Ireland is pretty much ignored as a bunch of guys who fall over a ball every now and then.

There's still much drinkery and fountain-ery to be had though.
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Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Rictor on June 14, 2004, 03:39:01 pm: but seriously, it was a BAD idea to let Beckam take those penalty shots. Barthez had him figured from go, how could he not...
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: kasperl on June 14, 2004, 03:45:01 pm: Oh god, I really hope Germany wins from Holland. That would save me quite a lot of annoyance, and give me a great day at school.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: aldo_14 on June 14, 2004, 03:47:28 pm: Quote
Originally posted by kasperl
Oh god, I really hope Germany wins from Holland. That would save me quite a lot of annoyance, and give me a great day at school.

Why - don;t you want to avenge your bicycles?
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: kasperl on June 14, 2004, 03:55:36 pm: Come on.

Some people are that pathetic, most people regard that as the msot childish behaviour ever.

I still don't want to be a German asking directions to the beach in Den Haag (The Hague) though. But that might be due to general anti tourism feelings.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Nico on June 14, 2004, 04:58:24 pm: Ah god, they won. Hoped they'd lose, we'd get rid of football ( football, you tards, not soccer, football!!! How can one be stupid enough to call a game football when it's played at 90% with hands, then go and say the other , older one would be called soccer? I mean WTF? What does soccer mean anyway? ) from news faster. But no.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: aldo_14 on June 14, 2004, 05:03:12 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Nico
Ah god, they won. Hoped they'd lose, we'd get rid of football ( football, you tards, not soccer, football!!! How can one be stupid enough to call a game football when it's played at 90% with hands, then go and say the other , older one would be called soccer? I mean WTF? What does soccer mean anyway? ) from news faster. But no.

You, my good sir, need help.

Spot on with the soccer thing, though. (NB: soccer is an abbreviation of 'association football')
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Nico on June 14, 2004, 05:09:25 pm: Yes, I need help: football is everywhere, I turn on TV, radio, whatebver, and I have football ( or that european election thing, whichever ).
Gwah.
So soccer is for Association football? Asso... football... soccer? mmh...
WTF?-bis
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: vyper on June 14, 2004, 05:18:32 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Maeglamor

[color=66ff00]Actually over here the unionists support england and the nationalists support the Republic.
N. Ireland is pretty much ignored as a bunch of guys who fall over a ball every now and then.

There's still much drinkery and fountain-ery to be had though.
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Oddly enough Ireland is the cause all these bloody idiots fight over Rangers and Celtic here.

Ironic.

Anyway, 2nite's result - Sweden 5 - Bulgaria 0. Bet they wish Larson had retired.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Darkage on June 14, 2004, 05:21:17 pm: Venom you are my hero.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: karajorma on June 14, 2004, 05:32:01 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Nico
Ah god, they won. Hoped they'd lose, we'd get rid of football ( football, you tards, not soccer, football!!! How can one be stupid enough to call a game football when it's played at 90% with hands, then go and say the other , older one would be called soccer? I mean WTF? What does soccer mean anyway? ) from news faster. But no.

Americans are weird. It's all due to them losing their heads after winning their independance. They decided to do everything differently from the Brits just to prove they could.

The weird part is that somehow they think that this makes them correct even in cases like this where every single other country in the world knows that they are wrong :D
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Rictor on June 14, 2004, 06:03:54 pm: hey, great idea guys, lets drop the u from all our words, that'll show the world we're different.

I actually speak a wierd combination of American/Proper english, due to the fact that I first learned english in an American school, but afterwards moved to Canada. So, I say "zee" instead of "zed", but still use the British "u" in words like colour. Which makes writing html code that much harder :nod: :nod:
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: USS Alexander on June 14, 2004, 06:20:53 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Darkage
I hope Holland is out ASAP, so then i don't have to put up whit crazy suckers on the street and all those annoying orange flags that keep you awake.

:lol: :lol: Yeah you should watch rotterdam when feyenoord wins, thank god i'mout the s.c.f:nervous:
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Darkage on June 15, 2004, 12:18:07 pm: I have seen it once and left as soon as i could:D

totaly nuts:D
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Fineus on June 15, 2004, 12:28:06 pm: I saw this on someones MSN a day after the England/France match... thought it summed things up quite nicely...

Quote

England may not have the best football players, but we do have the best football holligans

God I love my country :rolleyes:
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: USS Alexander on June 15, 2004, 12:36:22 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Kalfireth
I saw this on someones MSN a day after the England/France match... thought it summed things up quite nicely...

God I love my country :rolleyes:

:lol: best football hooligans:lol: s.c.f owns them, and god take a look at the lazio hooligan's they are sick and not to mention the guys from ado den haag those are crazy people.:shaking:
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Windrunner on June 15, 2004, 12:47:37 pm: Sweden-Bulgaria 5-0 :D one helluwa match
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Darkage on June 15, 2004, 02:08:29 pm: Quote
Originally posted by USS Alexander

:lol: best football hooligans:lol: s.c.f owns them, and god take a look at the lazio hooligan's they are sick and not to mention the guys from ado den haag those are crazy people.:shaking:

Indeed Ado Den Haag is the worst.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: kode on June 15, 2004, 02:50:39 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Windrunner
Sweden-Bulgaria 5-0 :D one helluwa match

not a bad match at all. I must, however, claim that the england - france game was better.

and it doesn't really look too good for holland atm. I'd hate to see germany meet sweden tho.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Darkage on June 15, 2004, 02:59:07 pm: 1 Germany-Holland 0

I hope it stays that way.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Darkage on June 15, 2004, 03:24:20 pm: 1-1 in the 80th minute

i am somehow getting my national spirit back.

i must be ill

Edit: match ended in 1-1
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: kasperl on June 16, 2004, 10:37:21 am: Ugh, Van Nistelrooy should really be hurt for making that goal. He sucked the entire match, and then at the last moment, he saves the game for Holland. Onto another week of orange madness.

And yeah, ADO is probably pretty bad too.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Martinus on June 16, 2004, 10:40:43 am: Quote
Originally posted by vyper

Oddly enough Ireland is the cause all these bloody idiots fight over Rangers and Celtic here.

Ironic.

[color=66ff00]Indeed, what point does waving a tri-colour or a union jack at a scottish footie match serve other than to say 'Yes we are bigoted asses'. :rolleyes:
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Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Rictor on June 16, 2004, 11:41:47 am: Well, its gets the Scots pissed off, which is apparently purpose enough for some.

So, who are your picks for the finals? I'm going with France and maybe Italy. There are just too many teams that are too evenly matched right now...
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: 01010 on June 16, 2004, 12:59:01 pm: I'd say if England actually play an attacking game, they have a decent chance of doing well this time around.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Jiggyhound on June 16, 2004, 01:09:44 pm: England are on top form, the france loss was an unlucky hiccup really, silly fouls that lost us the game.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: aldo_14 on June 16, 2004, 01:23:01 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Maeglamor

[color=66ff00]Indeed, what point does waving a tri-colour or a union jack at a scottish footie match serve other than to say 'Yes we are bigoted asses'. :rolleyes:
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To be fair, there is some historical basis - Celtic were founded by Catholic monks* and their support was initially from Irish immigrants (who were the main / only Catholic group at the time. Rangers were named after a touring english rugby team, are a largely Protestant team and thus somewhat monarchistic.....not to mention that the colours match the strip.

But really, it's a load of pish. I'm a Rangers fan and I'd much rather see the St.Andrews cross or Lion Rampant at Ibrox any day. Although, there are a lot of other flags kicking around both stadiums - sometimes for good reasons (i.e. US flag when Reyna palyed for the Gers), sometimes for no apparent reason (Celtic fans have adopted the Palestinian flag, Rangers the Israeli - showing how the Old firm can embrace any rivalry).

My tip for the final - Spain vs France. Spain are the best team I've seen so far, and France won't have many worst goalscoring / chance making performances than they did against England (they dominated play but created nearly sod-all - albiet Englands 8-0-2 system may have had an affect on that). Plus France have shown the character for it.... as for the other big-guns; Portugal probably won't qualify (I can't see them beating Spain), Italy looked bereft of width against Denmark, the Dutch were shambolic at times against Germany and Germany simply aren't good enough.

*partly to stop them mixing with Protestants, depending on which stories you believe.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 16, 2004, 01:31:02 pm: I am truly appauled by Kasperl and Darkage. :no::blah: You don't have to like football but to say you hope your own country loses makes me wanna hurl... at you. Seriously, it's better to shut your pieholes then to say anything at all about football apparently.

Really, you guys rather have your normal boring ass lives instead of parties, booze and fun? If you don't like football there are still parties to go to. Go to the closest pub and voila, party. You don't even have to watch the game, just have some damned fun.

But I guess you guys would rather be sitting in your room watching the Bold and the Beautifull or something. Damned pessimists.

I really can't stand it when people are so pessimistic and negative about something.

*tentacle rapes Darkage and Kasperl for rooting for the damned Germans and then neuters them with teh Axe*

The irony, I'm a girl and the only real football fan around here. :D

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Now, onto the subject at hand.

Holland played extremely bad the first 50-60 minutes and deserved the weird ass goal from the Germans. But after Pierre v. Hooijdonk came onto the pitch I felt like I was watching the actual team we have... partially. After the goal from v. Nistelrooy things were all good. If the Germans wouldn't have underestimated us the last 30 minutes of the game they probably would've deserved to win. But they did, so the 1-1 final score was fair.

Ow, and... GO GREECE! :D I so hope they go through to the next round!
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: aldo_14 on June 16, 2004, 01:34:33 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Tiara

The irony, I'm a girl and the only real football fan around here. :D

I presume you mean Holland?
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 16, 2004, 01:39:39 pm: Quote
Originally posted by aldo_14

I presume you mean Holland?

Yeah. But even if I don't, apparantly not many are real football fans on this board.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: 01010 on June 16, 2004, 01:44:42 pm: I follow international football quite closely but I'm not interested in club level.

Jiggyhound: England do have a strong team I agree, the defence against France (2 mistakes omitted) was incredibly strong, but England aren't a defensive team, they have a strong midfield and good strikers but they weren't even getting a touch of the ball in the second half of the England-France game.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Darkage on June 16, 2004, 01:45:47 pm: I do go out and party but not during the week days, except on friday and saturday:D

I must say when i was watching the match i actualy hoped that Holland would atleast score one goal:D
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: kasperl on June 16, 2004, 01:48:38 pm: T: I don't give a rat's ass about partying, especially not in an exam week. What I do care about is idiots with orange clothing and wierdass shout hats yelling "Hup Holland Hup" in the bloody school yard when I am trying to focus on an upcoming test. Or even having to lag behind some idiots on bike with orange flags waving about so wide there is no way to pass without getting slammed in the chest with a Go Holland! flag.

That, and having a morning paper (Eindhoven's Dagblad) with a front page with only football news, but with important stuff hid away in some odd nook just because we made 1-1 annoys the hell out of me.

As for supporting my country, come on, what's there to support? If you mean the country in general, I am hardly proud of it. If you mean the team, come on, football is just another sport to me, and not even an interesting one.

And yeah, feeling team spirit is nice, but you can over-exegurate real easily.

I stopped watching TV when Angel and Buffy stopped, and I am spending my time either studying or online trying to get a little rest. The hype is just annoying me, and it should be over with as soon as possible.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 16, 2004, 01:54:45 pm: Quote
Originally posted by kasperl
T: I don't give a rat's ass about partying, especially not in an exam week. What I do care about is idiots with orange clothing and wierdass shout hats yelling "Hup Holland Hup" in the bloody school yard when I am trying to focus on an upcoming test. Or even having to lag behind some idiots on bike with orange flags waving about so wide there is no way to pass without getting slammed in the chest with a Go Holland! flag.

That, and having a morning paper (Eindhoven's Dagblad) with a front page with only football news, but with important stuff hid away in some odd nook just because we made 1-1 annoys the hell out of me.

As for supporting my country, come on, what's there to support? If you mean the country in general, I am hardly proud of it. If you mean the team, come on, football is just another sport to me, and not even an interesting one.

And yeah, feeling team spirit is nice, but you can over-exegurate real easily.

I stopped watching TV when Angel and Buffy stopped, and I am spending my time either studying or online trying to get a little rest. The hype is just annoying me, and it should be over with as soon as possible.

As I thought, an unpatriotic, pessimistic nerd. If you got to ***** about something do it in the confession booth but don't ruin other people's fun by being all negative and pessimistic.

Really, if you don't like it, don't want to party, don't want to have fun and basically don't want to live your life, that's up to you.

Also, you're in high-school right? Exam weeks were over a week ago, so don't gimme that excuse. (Or is it 'repetitie week' from the lower classes? In that case, sorry for this comment :p)

All, I see is *complain complain complain* in your posts. Keep it to your damned self.

Sorry for the personal attack but I despise negative people who make it their business to infect other people. :ick:

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Goes back to watching Russia-Portugal :D. GO RUSSIA! :p
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Rictor on June 16, 2004, 01:56:56 pm: kasperl: but hype if fun fun. You can't deny your heritage. You were born on European soil, so science dictates that you must love football. Its like trying to fight gravity, its just doesn't work. When no ones around to judge you, I know what you do. You quickly switch from Star Trek to the footie game, and breathe deep your secret passion. Its OK man, everyone does it. :lol: :lol:
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: kasperl on June 16, 2004, 02:01:36 pm: Oh, gosh, I see you know my schools schedule better then all the teachers, the students, and the principal does. I'd better tell them we can't have any exams. But hey, here's an idea, I am not in 5 HAVO or 5/6 VWO, so it might just be that I am not having central exams. But how can that be? I might just have to ask my teachers. Oh, yeah, school exams, schoolexamen, schoolonderzoek. But of course, you know it better then everybody else, so I will have to tell them I cannot do my exams because you say so.

FYI, I am in 4 VWO, and working my ass of to pass the year after 12 weeks of illness.

And if you care, you started off the attacks, I only said I was hoping that Holland quit, because of the bloody hype. If you can't handle that, no need to pretend your me without caffeine or sleep. And certainly no need to go of on a rampant about patriotism.

As for 'living my life', well, I kinda put that on hold indefinately when I stopped being able to walk up a stair without running out of breath. Also, I might just need my time to pass. If you care, I could put up a nice little excel sheet with my grades. No fun.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: kasperl on June 16, 2004, 02:05:36 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Rictor
kasperl: but hype if fun fun. You can't deny your heritage. You were born on European soil, so science dictates that you must love football. Its like trying to fight gravity, its just doesn't work. When no ones around to judge you, I know what you do. You quickly switch from Star Trek to the footie game, and breathe deep your secret passion. Its OK man, everyone does it. :lol: :lol:
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Fun.

Really fun.

I admit to having watched 15 min of the game, mainly to find out if Holland got beaten yet. All I hate about football is the complete idiots surrouding it. I am not even talking about the hooligans if football wasn't there, they would go beat eachother up over hockey, basketball, or the lady's championship in ping-pong. I am talking about the endless yappping in the news, in the papers, on the radio. When I turn on my TV, I don't want to know the weather forecast for Portugal, I want to know if I have to take a jacket when going outside. When I read the paper, I don't want 3 pages of crap about a 90 minute sport event, I want to read about the manditory ID scheme getting through the 1st chamber (kinda like the Lords).
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: aldo_14 on June 16, 2004, 02:11:38 pm: A world without football is a world not worth living in.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: 01010 on June 16, 2004, 02:18:23 pm: I dunno, I wouldn't say that.

I guess I'm weird because, when it comes to (most) sport, even at an international level, I can take it or leave it.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Darkage on June 16, 2004, 02:18:53 pm: I don't realy hate football to the bone, i do enjoy a match from time to time.
Or watch the match with friends and a big glas of beer.

other then that i don't have much intrest in the game:D
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: kasperl on June 16, 2004, 02:22:52 pm: Quote
Originally posted by aldo_14
A world without football is a world not worth living in.

In a world without football, you'd just say: "A world without rugby is a world not worth living in. "
Or you'd name some other sport.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: aldo_14 on June 16, 2004, 02:31:28 pm: Quote
Originally posted by kasperl

In a world without football, you'd just say: "A world without rugby is a world not worth living in. "
Or you'd name some other sport.

um... no.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: kasperl on June 16, 2004, 02:34:56 pm: Right.

The masses just need some sport to rally about. The Romans did it with chariot racing, the yanks do it with baseball, the Canadians with hockey, and the Europeans seem to enjoy football.

The moment a sport goes from a fun game to somethign worth millions, the fun is gone for me.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: aldo_14 on June 16, 2004, 02:37:55 pm: Quote
Originally posted by kasperl
Right.

The masses just need some sport to rally about. The Romans did it with chariot racing, the yanks do it with baseball, the Canadians with hockey, and the Europeans seem to enjoy football.

The moment a sport goes from a fun game to somethign worth millions, the fun is gone for me.

I get the sneaking suspicion you were always picked last.........
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Martinus on June 16, 2004, 02:44:38 pm: [color=66ff00]The Isreal/palestine flags are a result of idiots over here; the IRA started flying Palestine flags as a show of 'brotherhood' with the palestinians. As a result some slightly more idiotic loyalist decided that 'if they fly the palestine flags we'll fly their enemy's flag'.

If you see either flag in the hands of some football supporter you can pretty much guarantee they're either an idiot, a psychopath or possibly both.

Pity it's not like the rest of nature where the smart outlast the stupid, destructive types.
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Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
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You see i do have fun:D
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: 01010 on June 16, 2004, 02:55:42 pm: Ha ha. Your a dude Darkage, a real dude. :)
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: vyper on June 16, 2004, 03:08:47 pm: The toilet man... we just didn't need that shot....
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Stunaep on June 16, 2004, 03:10:47 pm: Darkage, no offense, but for the love of god, stop posting closeups of your face! You've guaranteed me no sleep for the next 20 hours or so.

[j/k]
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Darkage on June 16, 2004, 03:13:36 pm: there not close ups:D

and i am not that repulsive. I just forgot to bring my razors, so i didn't shave for 3 days:D

the toilot one is cool!:D
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: jdjtcagle on June 16, 2004, 03:15:21 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Darkage

...the toilot one is cool!:D

(http://www.cross-x.com/UBB//puke.gif)
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Darkage on June 16, 2004, 03:20:25 pm: Quote
Originally posted by 01010
Ha ha. Your a dude Darkage, a real dude. :)

thank you:D

lived on beer for 3 days long and only ate pizza en hamburgers.

in total around 300 bucks that weekend for beer and food.

150 bucks per person.

ooh and this is rambo my friends dog, you see the evilness in his eyes!

(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/inferno/darkage/img0034/pinkpop0254.jpg)

ok this was the lat pic:D
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Ghostavo on June 16, 2004, 03:27:27 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Darkage
in total around 300 bucks that weekend for beer and food.

150 bucks per person.

;7 :drevil: ;)
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: vyper on June 16, 2004, 03:33:34 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Darkage

150 bucks per person.

Those are some expensive whores.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: 01010 on June 16, 2004, 03:52:14 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Darkage

thank you:D

lived on beer for 3 days long and only ate pizza en hamburgers.

in total around 300 bucks that weekend for beer and food.

150 bucks per person.

Festivals are one of the most fun things I can think of.I usually take about £200 to a festival (mostly spent on beer) .
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Darkage on June 16, 2004, 03:57:49 pm: i never expected to spend so much cash on booze and food but it was worth it.

and bought 50 bucks of t-shirts to get a chicksphone number. although it wasn't needed to buy them. they were just cool.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 16, 2004, 04:46:46 pm: Quote
Originally posted by kasperl
Oh, gosh, I see you know my schools schedule better then all the teachers, the students, and the principal does. I'd better tell them we can't have any exams. But hey, here's an idea, I am not in 5 HAVO or 5/6 VWO, so it might just be that I am not having central exams. But how can that be? I might just have to ask my teachers. Oh, yeah, school exams, schoolexamen, schoolonderzoek. But of course, you know it better then everybody else, so I will have to tell them I cannot do my exams because you say so.

Eh, first of I am a teacher :D

And second, READ:

Quote
Orginally posted by tiara
(Or is it 'repetitie week' from the lower classes? In that case, sorry for this comment )

Thirdly; You just reached the lowest level of respect on my book. If you can't have any fun at all but instead be all negative I wish you luck in getting past the next 10/20 years without ending up in a mental institution.

Ow, and Darkage; I was wrong about you. You're alright :D At least you can have FUN :D:yes:

And seeing I've had some beers (7 to be exact): :lol: @ this thread. Beer makes you see things differently (except pessimism obviously :ick: ):lol:

WHEEE! I can still type after 7 beers :p But I'm gonna quit drinking for now and switching to water so I can find my own bed tonight :D
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Darkage on June 16, 2004, 05:02:31 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Tiara

Ow, and Darkage; I was wrong about you. You're alright :D At least you can have FUN :D:yes:

And seeing I've had some beers (7 to be exact): :lol: @ this thread. Beer makes you see things differently (except pessimism obviously :ick: ):lol:

WHEEE! I can still type after 7 beers :p But I'm gonna quit drinking for now and switching to water so I can find my own bed tonight :D

Just to let you see i can have fun, and your alright also:D

the toillet pic is still a cool one!

bah i only had one beer and ran out:D
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Stunaep on June 16, 2004, 05:16:09 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Tiara

WHEEE! I can still type after 7 beers :p But I'm gonna quit drinking for now and switching to water so I can find my own bed tonight :D

That's a good thing?
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Stunaep on June 16, 2004, 05:18:52 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Tiara

GO RUSSIA! :p

'tard.

I myself am mentally incapable of supporting russia in just about anything. Call me racist if you will. I'll enjoy it.:p

Nice to see Portugal won. I might feel a bit sorry for Russia for that oh-so-wrongfully given red card.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Ghostavo on June 16, 2004, 05:37:56 pm: Yeah, everybody (and I mean everybody) hated that red card :/

Now I've got to suffer a bit longer to see if Portugal goes forward :shaking: comrade bastards :mad:
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Rictor on June 16, 2004, 05:49:15 pm: Greece 1-1 Spain

as I said, there are so many evenly matched teams, its quite impossible to predict the finals; maybe semis. What is this like the third tie so far? And round 1 isn't even halfway done yet.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: kode on June 16, 2004, 06:46:58 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Tiara

Thirdly; You just reached the lowest level of respect on my book. If you can't have any fun at all but instead be all negative I wish you luck in getting past the next 10/20 years without ending up in a mental institution.

He could end up in sweden too. And we all already knew kasperl is a bore. and you can't type.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 16, 2004, 07:00:02 pm: Quote
Originally posted by kode
and you can't type.

I'm a tad drunk cuz of the birthday party and it's 2 am over here... gimme a break :p
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: kode on June 16, 2004, 07:11:36 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Tiara

I'm a tad drunk cuz of the birthday party and it's 2 am over here... gimme a break :p

didn't mean to offend you. it's 2 am over here too you know, but I've only had one beer. for some reason.

as for going on-topic, I'm looking forward to seeing sweden again on friday. I think we'll give italy a fair fight, to say the least. Maybe Zlatan'll make more than one goal, that'd be fun (because the interviews with him are funnay). Not to forget Larsson and Allbäck, or Isaksson for that matter.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Nico on June 17, 2004, 02:09:30 am: Quote
Originally posted by aldo_14
A world without football is a world not worth living in.

That would just be a world with something less on TV that I wouldn't watch anyway :p

And Darkey: No, that toilet pic isn't cool, my mind is desperately trying to stop my masochistic imagination from reconstructing the rest of the pic. There's a small war in my head, all because of you, hope you're happy :p
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: kasperl on June 17, 2004, 08:30:00 am: Quote
Originally posted by Tiara

Eh, first of I am a teacher :D

And second, READ:

Well, you know what, I did read. There is just that little thing of being in 4VWO meaning that any subject I end this year will be listed on my diploma, so if I fail my French or German, I can either choose to repeat the year, or risk not passing my final exams. There is a pretty big difference between a repetitie week and an exam week giving you two periods worth of exams at once, worth about 60% of your grade, all but one the last I'll ever see of the subject.

But if your highness thinks she knows better, well, tehn off course, no need to study, because exams cannot be given outside of periods not defined by the greatest mind in the universe, being you. :doubt:

And I know you teach history. Doesn't say anything about your character or brains, though.

EDIT:
As for having no fun at all, I see football is clearly the only thing there is to have fun with. It is off course impossible to enjoy a good conversation, or have a good time without a reason to get so pissed you can't remember what you said 2 minutes ago.

Or maybe, just maybe, there are other ways to have fun that do not involve either alcohol, loud music, or some bloated sport involving too much money and not enough brains. But off course, I could be wrong.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 17, 2004, 08:51:56 am: Quote
Originally posted by kasperl

Well, you know what, I did read. There is just that little thing of being in 4VWO meaning that any subject I end this year will be listed on my diploma, so if I fail my French or German, I can either choose to repeat the year, or risk not passing my final exams. There is a pretty big difference between a repetitie week and an exam week giving you two periods worth of exams at once, worth about 60% of your grade, all but one the last I'll ever see of the subject.

But if your highness thinks she knows better, well, tehn off course, no need to study, because exams cannot be given outside of periods not defined by the greatest mind in the universe, being you. :doubt:

And I know you teach history. Doesn't say anything about your character or brains, though.

EDIT:
As for having no fun at all, I see football is clearly the only thing there is to have fun with. It is off course impossible to enjoy a good conversation, or have a good time without a reason to get so pissed you can't remember what you said 2 minutes ago.

Or maybe, just maybe, there are other ways to have fun that do not involve either alcohol, loud music, or some bloated sport involving too much money and not enough brains. But off course, I could be wrong.

Scool exams aren't 'official' national exams. School exams = repetitie week. The only difference is, is that you carry your grade onto the next class.

60% of your grade? :wtf: A single school exam week can't have that high a percentage. It's not even permitted. Even the national exams are 'only' 50% of your overall grade.

And seeing I was required to know all the friggin' eductional rules for VWO, HAVO and VMBO niveaus to even be able to apply for a job as teacher and am reminded of those rules every single day I go to work, yes I do know better.

And obviously you never had real fun if you think it's just about the alcohol, loud music (well, this one can be correct :D), sport, money etc. It's about the atmosphere. But I do agree that everyone else enjoys something else and this might not be your thing. But you don't have to be all ****ing negative and pessimistic about it. Just shut your piehole and let other who do enjoy it, enjoy it. If you want to have a good conversation then first of all, don't even enter a ****ing thread about football if you don't like it. Nobody forces you to. :ick:
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Ghostavo on June 17, 2004, 09:03:53 am: Calm down people... if you want to start a thread about school stuff in the Netherlands or even talk about it through PM, fine.

So now to go back to the topic... are any of you going to be here if your team goes to the finals?! :p
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: aldo_14 on June 17, 2004, 09:04:35 am: Can we get back onto the football now, please?

Totti banned (http://www.euro2004.com/News/Kind=1/newsId=194558.html). Too bloody right, I say.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 17, 2004, 09:13:38 am: Quote
Originally posted by aldo_14
Can we get back onto the football now, please?

Totti banned (http://www.euro2004.com/News/Kind=1/newsId=194558.html). Too bloody right, I say.

Good. That tackle was vicious and uncalled for. If he had hit him in just the wrong spot he could've ended the guy's carreer.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: aldo_14 on June 17, 2004, 09:19:26 am: Quote
Originally posted by Tiara

Good. That tackle was vicious and uncalled for. If he had hit him in just the wrong spot he could've ended the guy's carreer.

Actually, he was banned for spitting in Poulsens face. Gotta admire Pulsens non-reaction - I'd probably break someones legs if they spat on me, let alone in my face.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 17, 2004, 09:21:01 am: Quote
Originally posted by aldo_14

Actually, he was banned for spitting in Poulsens face. Gotta admire Pulsens non-reaction - I'd probably break someones legs if they spat on me, let alone in my face.

:wtf: And not for the foul he commited? :wtf:

It was Totti that almost broke the guys leg in to and shattered his kneecap?

(Sorry, didn't read the article :p)
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: aldo_14 on June 17, 2004, 09:30:47 am: Quote
Originally posted by Tiara

:wtf: And not for the foul he commited? :wtf:

It was Totti that almost broke the guys leg in to and shattered his kneecap?

(Sorry, didn't read the article :p)

I think their (uefa) hands are tied if the referee has already penalised the player during the match (i.e. even if its just giving a yellow card or even only a foul against) - because otherwise they'd be admitting the referee made a mistake and be undermining his authority, or some pish. IIRC they can only penalise a player for something the referee has either missed (but which was caught on camera / complained about by the other team, as in this case), or which the ref highlights in his match report.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Nico on June 17, 2004, 09:42:16 am: Quote
Originally posted by kasperl
if I fail my French or German, I can either choose to repeat the year, or risk not passing my final exams.

If that happens because you failed in French, let me know.
I'll laugh.
Because I'm mean.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 17, 2004, 09:54:15 am: Quote
Originally posted by aldo_14

I think their (uefa) hands are tied if the referee has already penalised the player during the match (i.e. even if its just giving a yellow card or even only a foul against) - because otherwise they'd be admitting the referee made a mistake and be undermining his authority, or some pish. IIRC they can only penalise a player for something the referee has either missed (but which was caught on camera / complained about by the other team, as in this case), or which the ref highlights in his match report.

No, because it is stated in the UEFA rules that if a referee misjudges such a ruthless and blatant offense (if it happened in his FOV, which it did, that he is disqualified from refereeing any further in the tournament.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: kasperl on June 17, 2004, 09:57:19 am: Quote
Originally posted by Nico

If that happens because you failed in French, let me know.
I'll laugh.
Because I'm mean.

Meh.
Couchon. (About the only French insult I know)
Anyway, I think French might just be doable. It's German I'm worrying about now.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: aldo_14 on June 17, 2004, 09:58:48 am: Quote
Originally posted by Tiara

No, because it is stated in the UEFA rules that if a referee misjudges such a ruthless and blatant offense (if it happened in his FOV, which it did, that he is disqualified from refereeing any further in the tournament.

Dunno, then. Still, the bugger got what he deserved anyways.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Darkage on June 17, 2004, 11:08:04 am: Quote
Originally posted by Nico

That would just be a world with something less on TV that I wouldn't watch anyway :p

And Darkey: No, that toilet pic isn't cool, my mind is desperately trying to stop my masochistic imagination from reconstructing the rest of the pic. There's a small war in my head, all because of you, hope you're happy :p

lol...:D

Well it's your choice to reconstruct the rest not mine. Try not to reconstruct it then it wil be less scary:p:D
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: 01010 on June 17, 2004, 01:07:48 pm: 3-0 to England.

I wasn't impressed with the performance though, very sloppy. But a result is a result.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 17, 2004, 01:09:32 pm: Heh, yeah, it was still quite a good even match up untill the red card for the Swiss.

The only chance they have to get into the next round is to win from France and that England loses to Croatia. In other words: Not gonna happen.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Flipside on June 17, 2004, 01:09:32 pm: Not bad, at least that'll stop the bloody whining at work for a while ;)

Strange for a Londoner, but I have never ever developed a taste for football (or Soccer if you prefer).
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Ghostavo on June 18, 2004, 07:33:49 pm: Too....... many....... dutch...... can't....... breath..... help!? :(

Damn city is covered in an orange mass of drunken people. :doubt:
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 19, 2004, 03:43:06 am: Quote
Originally posted by Ghostavo
Too....... many....... dutch...... can't....... breath..... help!? :(

Damn city is covered in an orange mass of drunken people. :doubt:

;7

Well, just be glad that they arent nearly as bad as the English. When the English football fans drunk bad stuff happens.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: kasperl on June 19, 2004, 05:27:26 am: Now, may I teach you the phrase "piss of, I want to sleep" in Dutch:

"Gratis bier hier!"

Spoiler:

Do yourself a favour and don't try this out. Better yet, never trust someone when he's teaching you short phrases in a foreign language
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: 01010 on June 19, 2004, 05:48:01 am: Quote
Originally posted by Tiara

;7

Well, just be glad that they arent nearly as bad as the English. When the English football fans drunk bad stuff happens.

Correction, when English THUGS get drunk bad things happen. I have no doubt in my mind whatsoever that the English people that are causing trouble are not football fans, they are just assholes.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 19, 2004, 05:58:04 am: Quote
Originally posted by 01010

Correction, when English THUGS get drunk bad things happen. I have no doubt in my mind whatsoever that the English people that are causing trouble are not football fans, they are just assholes.

True. Anyone looking for a fight != football fan.

But nevertheless, England does bring the largest troubles with them. :p
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: 01010 on June 19, 2004, 06:02:39 am: Quote
Originally posted by Tiara

True. Anyone looking for a fight != football fan.

But nevertheless, England does bring the largest troubles with them. :p

Probably the sheer volume of English in Portugal having something to do with that. It's sad that it happens, it's even worse when these apparent fans aren't just stupid kids but 47 year old firefighters who really should know better.

What is interesting though is how they keep referring to them as football fans when they are in the Algarve (sp?) which is nowhere near the tournament. I think they're just assholes on holiday that think that the football is a good excuse to cause trouble, they'd probably do it regardless of the tournament anyway.

Plus, as bad as English hooliganism can be, I don't think it approaches anywhere near the psychotic fervor of the Galataseray(sp? again) fans, those guys should be shot.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: kasperl on June 19, 2004, 06:33:13 am: Now, when is the next Englan/Turkey match? Play it in some stadium in the middle of nowhere, put inexpensive camera's in and around the stadium, remove the police from everywhere except the field to protect the players, and call it a reality show. Instant ratings, though I doubt anyone would be watching for the game.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Ghostavo on June 19, 2004, 07:05:28 am: I didn't know dutch was so similar to latin derived languages...

"Gratis bier hier!"

Grátis = free :D
The rest is sooooo close to english I don't need to point out :nervous:

How about if I say something along the lines of "Sluit je mond, wil ik slapen" (verify this please) and run like hell afterwards? :shaking:
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 19, 2004, 07:13:09 am: Quote
Originally posted by Ghostavo
How about if I say something along the lines of "Sluit je mond, wil ik slapen" (verify this please) and run like hell afterwards? :shaking:

That's 'Close your mouth, I want to sleep.'

That's quite polite actually, if you want to be rude say 'Hou je bek, ik wil godverdomme slapen!'.

That's 'Shut up, I want to sleep goddamnit!".

Though, non-Dutch people probably won't know how to pronounce it correctly :p
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: kasperl on June 19, 2004, 07:22:58 am: You can always say:
Jullie verliezen toch, ga naar huis!

But that would indeed get you running......
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: kode on June 19, 2004, 07:52:42 am: Quote
Originally posted by Ghostavo
I didn't know dutch was so similar to latin derived languages...

I think I would have little problems learning dutch as it's a mix of the three languages I currently know, english, german and swedish. kind of.

and as for on-topic, now sweden can't lose to denmark next game or we're out (italy winning over bulgaria is not only probable, it's almost certain). sweden must get the defenses together. it's almost embarassing as it is now.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 19, 2004, 08:03:09 am: Quote
Originally posted by kode
sweden must get the defenses together. it's almost embarassing as it is now.

Not as embarrasing as Italy. Before the tournament I thought of them as potential finalists or even champions but that was just an illusion. :doubt:

Not that I'm really sad about that :D I still find them to be extremely arrogant.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: kasperl on June 19, 2004, 08:40:45 am: Dutch is easy to get the basics of, but once you try to spell it correctly.....

There are more exceptions then rules, and the rules are often so vague that you always do something wrong.

And the Latin in it is easy to overlook. There is a lot more Latin left in French and English then in Dutch. Not to mention that people are starting call every word with more then 2 syllables 'difficult', and that general vocubulary is on the way down. Go primary schooling!

Anyway, soccer, Holland-Tsjechië (how the heck do you spell it in English?). Is there any chance of the Tjechs winning?
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 19, 2004, 08:46:32 am: Quote
Originally posted by kasperl
Anyway, soccer, Holland-Tsjechië (how the heck do you spell it in English?). Is there any chance of the Tjechs winning?

History between the two;

Draw: 4
Holland win: 4
Chechs win: 8 (!!!)

History shows that Holland has had great difficulties dealing with them. Though 4 or so of the Chech victories were frielndlies so they don't really count.

However, given the difficulties the Chechs had against Latvia (they barely won) I give us Dutchies excellent odds this time.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: kasperl on June 19, 2004, 09:07:44 am: What a pity....
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 19, 2004, 11:01:09 am: Quote
Originally posted by kasperl
What a pity....

Y'know, I'm seriously tempted to ask an0n for your IP, port scan your ass and do all kinds of nasty things to your rig. :doubt:
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: kasperl on June 19, 2004, 11:15:21 am: I expected less petty anguish from you....
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 19, 2004, 11:47:04 am: I expected a little more pride from you... Or even a little less pessimism... :doubt:
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: GT-Keravnos on June 19, 2004, 11:58:45 am: Ow, and... GO GREECE! I so hope they go through to the next round!

(posted by Tiara)

Well, thanks! We still got the russians to beat to go through, but let's face it...

If anyone had the guts to tell me last week that we would actually beat the Portuguese and draw the Spaniards, I would think he was insane... :D. Now I AM MADD!!!! :D :D

Well, I live in Alexandras str. 100 meters from the Panatinaikos' historic stadium the "Leoforos". I also happen to be a huge fan of said team.

We Greeks owe our success to 3 things. no 1 is Coach Rechangel or as we call him "Archangel". He got us to understand that we could look the big guys in the face and not give up. Play what we can, and let it rain! The archangel IS THE MAN!!!

2, Panathinaikos (my team) and its continued European success led the way for what you see now. PAO showed that it could be done, because PAO did it.

3, Beginners', dum, Fools' (whatever) luck.

You saw the game we had with Spain. They could easily score 3. Instead we drew them. That doesn't mean they aren't good enough. It is just that they took us for granted. I remember the shot, right after they scored, where King Huan Carlos pointed that his team would score 2 more goals.

I remember yelling to the top of my lungs that they would get 2 more but not goals exactly... :) I was right.

Well tommorow, along with some friends we will go to the Athens' Med school nearby (2 Km away, In GOYDI!) and watch the game on the Big screen, (rumours that female students of medicine will be available in blue white bikini tops, are bound to arise, but will have to be examined further). :D :D :D

God, I hope we pass through. I am sure the team will fight to the death for it.

What I love seeing is the match from hell, Portugal Vs Spain. It would have been a cosy little friendly, with a lot of passing and possibly no scoring, but we went ahead and crashed their party. Now both will fight for their lives and I expect a bodycount.

ELLAS! ELLAS! ELLAS!
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Ghostavo on June 19, 2004, 12:42:49 pm: Hehehe... Spain is probably going to win.

Mourinho should have trained the team from the beggining... :doubt:
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Darkage on June 19, 2004, 03:40:20 pm: **** **** ****!!!!

Damn the referie and Dick Advocaat for taking out robben!
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 19, 2004, 03:41:02 pm: Well, Holland lost the game after leading with 2-0. The referee was bribed or something (and I'm seriously not joking. he gave cards for people breathing against their opponent).

This means Holland no longer controls their chances of going through to the quarter finals.

*sees Kas smile*

*cracks Kas's skull with a blunt object*

I'm pissed...
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Darkage on June 19, 2004, 03:48:08 pm: i am pissed and i am going to drink my self to doom!!

the referie didn't even give a penalty! to V.nistelrooi!
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 19, 2004, 03:51:55 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Darkage
the referie didn't even give a penalty! to V.nistelrooi!

\The guy was so bribed. Before the match they said that the referee in question was 'one of the best in the world'. If he was he wouldn't give red for a schwalbe. Or refuse to give a penalty after they litterally tore him to the ground. Or give a free kick for every time a dutch player would breath in the wrong direction.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Darkage on June 19, 2004, 03:53:44 pm: Indeed the red for schwalbe was rediculous. The fool fel over his own damn feet.

He is the bigest asshole of the world.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 19, 2004, 03:56:18 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Darkage
He is the bigest asshole of the world.

That award still goes to Advocaat. That asshole substituted Robben for Christ sake. He was the best player in the field. And who does he put in? V. Hooijdonk? No, that would indeed be stupid. :doubt: No, he puts goddamn Bosvelt in the field.

Goddamn that moron.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Darkage on June 19, 2004, 04:01:32 pm: indeed.

Why in the world robben! the ****ing star player!
yes your right bosvelt why him!

i am so pissed off.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Ghostavo on June 19, 2004, 04:11:55 pm: *tries to rally the dutch hatred for the spanish referee to try to get their suport for the coming Portugal vs Spain in which his country is likely to lose*

:(
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Flipside on June 19, 2004, 04:34:49 pm: My condolences to Holland, you did not deserve that. That Red Card was the poorest refereeing I have seen for a long long time :(
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: kode on June 19, 2004, 05:25:51 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Tiara

\The guy was so bribed. Before the match they said that the referee in question was 'one of the best in the world'. If he was he wouldn't give red for a schwalbe. Or refuse to give a penalty after they litterally tore him to the ground. Or give a free kick for every time a dutch player would breath in the wrong direction.

you know, the swedish commentators were really all talking about the clear off-side that eventually led to the 2-0 goal. On the TV I was watching, I thought the ref was biased in hollands favor.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 19, 2004, 05:31:32 pm: Quote
Originally posted by kode

you know, the swedish commentators were really all talking about the clear off-side that eventually led to the 2-0 goal. On the TV I was watching, I thought the ref was biased in hollands favor.

New UEFA rules, the off-side rule only applies to the one receiving the pass. Other players can stray off-side without being called back.

Stupid rule but it was a valid goal.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Flipside on June 19, 2004, 05:32:24 pm: Well, from Britain, the ref certainly seemed biased against Holland. Not that both teams didn't play well, but Holland deserved a draw from that match, that Red card amazes me even now! It's got to rank up there with the Maradona incident against England, the guy was halfway to the ground before he even touched Schwalbe :(
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: GT-Keravnos on June 20, 2004, 01:36:04 am: Quote
Originally posted by Ghostavo
*tries to rally the dutch hatred for the spanish referee to try to get their suport for the coming Portugal vs Spain in which his country is likely to lose*

:(

I dont' think I am the only one who will tell you that if a fat lady didn't sing yet, it isn't over!

If Greece could draw the Spaniards, you can sure beat them!
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Rictor on June 20, 2004, 02:09:56 am: Hmm, I don't have a TV, so I was listening to it on a BBC webcast; I can't say whether that red card was justified. But the Chezks put up a hell of a fight.

I've got a grudge against Holland, so I was happy to see the Chezks win. During World Cup 98 and the past 2 Euro cups, it was always those damned Dutch bastards who knocked Yugoslavia out of the running. Seriously, its like a curse, every time, its always Holland. I still remember World Cup 98, one of the Dutch players (I forget who, might have been Davids) ran over one of our players. I mean, literally, ran right over his chest. No foul, no card, nothing. I thought the ref must have either been blind or bribed. Thats karma for ya :p :p

But in any case, its seems likely that Holland will be advacing to the quarter finals. They're facing Latvia, and Germany has to take on the Chezk Republic, who obviously aren't kidding around. It'll be Holland and the Chezks probably.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 20, 2004, 02:18:23 am: Quote
Originally posted by Rictor
But in any case, its seems likely that Holland will be advacing to the quarter finals. They're facing Latvia, and Germany has to take on the Chezk Republic, who obviously aren't kidding around. It'll be Holland and the Chezks probably.

But Germany is going up against the Chechs who play for litterally nothing. They are already in the next round. Against Holland they had to win.

And Latvia almost won from Holland and played to a draw against Germany. I'm not underestimating them either.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: GT-Keravnos on June 20, 2004, 02:35:51 am: I too wish that Holland advances. Even if Ajax has trounced my fave teams' only chance of a European cup (champions league didn't exist back in 1971,)... still...

I think V.nistelrooi's goal has to be one of the prettiest I have seen, and probably the zaniest, wackiest. (on the germans)

I had a poll among friends' about his goal or the Ibrahimovic one. V.N. won because he knew what he was doing.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: kasperl on June 20, 2004, 05:18:24 am: OK, I watched the game, and regardless of the outcome, it was a great game. The ref did indeed make a lot of mistakes, but Robben ought to have gotten red for the sliding from behind, but the Dutch should have gotten the penalty for the grappling.
It was great fun to watch, and the first goal was very nice. The distance shot from the Chec, err, Mezden or something? That shot was great, too bad it hit the bar. There were some pretty nice attempts from Oranje too.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 20, 2004, 05:23:54 am: Quote
Originally posted by kasperl
It was great fun to watch, and the first goal was very nice. The distance shot from the Chec, err, Mezden or something? That shot was great, too bad it hit the bar. There were some pretty nice attempts from Oranje too.

That was Nedved. He played a very good game for the Chechs, no doubt about that.

But thanks to that moron Advocaat, we lost the game. For as long as Robben was playing we were winning. He took him out for no good reason and put in the worst player of the entire team, Bosvelt (a defending midfielder) where he should've at least put in an attacking midfielder but prefferable v.d Vaart or v, Hooijdonk to keep the offensive spirit instead of falling back.

He is by far the worst trainer EVER. No trainer would make such a big mistake but him.

WHEN YOUR TEAM IS UP FRONT WITH ONE GOAL AND DOING A GOOD JOB YOU DON'T TAKE OUT A STRIKER! LET ALONE THE DAMNED BEST STRIKER ON THE ENTIRE ****IN' PITCH.

There... :p
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: kode on June 20, 2004, 07:42:44 am: Quote
Originally posted by Tiara

That was Nedved. He played a very good game for the Chechs, no doubt about that.

yeah. that shot was amazing. "a shot from another county", as they said after the game here.

and even if the chzechs are set, I think they'll put up a fight to germany, just as denmark and sweden won't go for a draw, even if that would mean they're both in the next round.

and GT-Keravnos, Ibrahimovic knew what he was doing. Zlatan does that stuff quite often at practice. sure, he was a little lucky, as it went over that player, but other than that...
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: kasperl on June 20, 2004, 08:05:53 am: Well, if Chzegia wins against Germany, and the Dutch win against Latvia, it'll be Chzegia and Holland throught to the quarters. Even if Germany makes a draw, but Holland wins, Holland will go through
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 20, 2004, 08:11:53 am: There is still a chance... unless the Germans make a deal with the Chechs. Though that would be very obvious and cause a lot of commotion.

I still hope they hang that referee or something.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: kasperl on June 20, 2004, 08:19:04 am: Hanging is a bit, well, troublesome. Just let him reff the next England game, and then let him loose between the hooligans. Then blame the Brits for their reasonless violence.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: vyper on June 20, 2004, 08:44:51 am: Quote
Originally posted by kasperl
Hanging is a bit, well, troublesome. Just let him reff the next England game, and then let him loose between the hooligans. Then blame the Brits for their reasonless violence.

Excuse me while I rip out your ****ing throat.

They were ENGLISH hooligans. Brits on a whole include the Scots who are just party animals.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: kasperl on June 20, 2004, 08:52:02 am: Oops.

Can I have my throat back?
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Rictor on June 20, 2004, 10:50:12 am: See, thats whats I'm thinking. The Chezks (does anyone know the actual, proper spelling?) would rather have Germany advancing than Holland, or thats the way it seems to me. Easier opposition and so forth. Germany doesn't seem to be on top of their game, and its not like Holland got trounced by a comfortable margin. So....

Ah, we'll see. I don't think Holland can advance to the semis, whatever may come. Its only halfway throught the first round, and still there is no clear favourite except France. Portugal v Spain should be interesting, they're both great teams...
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: aldo_14 on June 20, 2004, 11:36:30 am: It's Czech, BTW.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 20, 2004, 12:07:33 pm: Quote
Originally posted by aldo_14
It's Czech, BTW.

Czechs, checkers... who cares? :p
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Nico on June 20, 2004, 01:25:21 pm: Quote
Originally posted by kasperl
Couchon. (About the only French insult I know)

Sorry, but that word doesn't even exists, afaik :p
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 20, 2004, 01:36:10 pm: Kas, here are a few suggestions:

Pétasse (***** or whore)
Va baiser un ... (Go **** a ...) [Not too sure about this one as baiser means 'kiss'. I heard it once or twice though.]
Branleur (Wanker)
Merde (****)
Pédé (fag/homo/etc)
Con (Moron/idiot/etc)
Add a couple of dozen more :D:p:drevil:

When I'm in France, the people there are always surprised that I can swear in their own language.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Darkage on June 20, 2004, 02:59:43 pm: i drinked my self to a pulp when we lost yesterday. And it was good.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Ghostavo on June 20, 2004, 03:03:05 pm: GOALLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Skippy on June 20, 2004, 03:11:55 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Ghostavo
GOALLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(for Portugal, to be precise :p)
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 20, 2004, 03:13:47 pm: Good. Even if it's just because that referee was Spanish :drevil:
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Skippy on June 20, 2004, 03:36:25 pm: Hhaha, Spain eliminated :p
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Ghostavo on June 20, 2004, 03:36:40 pm: WE WON!!!!! :D
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 20, 2004, 03:37:57 pm: Mwahahaha! Portugal and GREECE to the next round :D

Ah, the sweet smell of revenge. :drevil:

*flips the referee Gonzales the bird*
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 20, 2004, 03:40:41 pm: Dutchie - Gonzales - Dutchie -> (http://www.terminalcomputers.com/forums/images/smilies/bukkake.gif)

Take that biatch!

Sorry, I just LOVE getting revenge :drevil:
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: kode on June 20, 2004, 03:47:39 pm: oh, ffs. that is getting old. being annoyed at the referee is something that mainly sore losers do.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 20, 2004, 03:50:06 pm: Quote
Originally posted by kode
oh, ffs. that is getting old. being annoyed at the referee is something that mainly sore losers do.

Like I care what you think... :p seriously, getting royally screwed over tends to make me hold a grudge. :devil:
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Genryu on June 20, 2004, 03:59:08 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Tiara

Va baiser un ... (Go **** a ...) [Not too sure about this one as baiser means 'kiss'. I heard it once or twice though.]

Lil' lesson in french insults

The word baiser means kiss, and is used in polite conversation.
Used as a verb like here, it's equivalent to ****.
The translation here would be : Go **** an... [insert random animal or nationality].
And Tiara, swearing is the first thing learned in another language :)
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Darkage on June 20, 2004, 04:10:16 pm: it's all i need:p
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: karajorma on June 20, 2004, 04:11:09 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Ghostavo
WE WON!!!!! :D

I'm worried by the possibility of England playing Portugal. My mum's already said that she couldn't bear to watch the match since she'd have no idea who to support.

Even though I'm an England supporter I'd hate to have to knock Portugal out to progress.

Oh well I can always hope that England win the group and have to play Greece instead.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 20, 2004, 04:47:40 pm: It's almost as if Greece is the Korea of Europe (In football terms ofcourse :p).
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: BlackDove on June 20, 2004, 05:46:49 pm: I'm looking forward to the anal raping Croatia is going to royally recieve from England tommorow. That will be fun. Oh yes.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: GT-Keravnos on June 20, 2004, 06:54:19 pm: Quote
Originally posted by GT-Keravnos

I dont' think I am the only one who will tell you that if a fat lady didn't sing yet, it isn't over!

If Greece could draw the Spaniards, you can sure beat them!

@Ghostavo, see? I told you so! Hurray for Portugal. Down with the arrogant Spaniards! A friend of mine told me that when we drew them, one Spaniard had asked him what is his team and where is it? (Even if Real is my fave (european level wise) team :) )

(prophet becomes me!!!)

@Tiara, well If I told you that Greece would go on to the 8 on its first try at the European football championship, would you not laugh, or consider it wishful thinking?

After tonight's results we Greeks have no misconceptions about who we are and what it is we are thougth to be. The worst of the 8. Everyone's favorite whooping boy. French will probably walk all over us.

But we fight. We have and we will. We haven't reached thus far by kissin' @$$3$...

Tonight there is a celebration the likes of which will probably be remembered for years. We love football, and it is nice to know that every once and a while, we get something out of it too.

In a few days we play 11 on 11 with whoever we are set against (Either England or France), with NOTHING to lose (everyone thinks we are gonners already, so no disappointment there), but with EVERYTHING TO WIN.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Nico on June 21, 2004, 02:19:14 am: Quote
Originally posted by Tiara
Kas, here are a few suggestions:

Pétasse (***** or whore)
Va baiser un ... (Go **** a ...) [Not too sure about this one as baiser means 'kiss'. I heard it once or twice though.]
Branleur (Wanker)
Merde (****)
Pédé (fag/homo/etc)
Con (Moron/idiot/etc)
Add a couple of dozen more :D:p:drevil:

When I'm in France, the people there are always surprised that I can swear in their own language.

Eh, that's a rather nice begining :p
Gotta admit we're disturbingly creative when it comes to insults.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: jdjtcagle on June 21, 2004, 02:22:02 am: Quote
Originally posted by Tiara
Kas, here are a few suggestions:

Pétasse (***** or whore)
Va baiser un ... (Go **** a ...) [Not too sure about this one as baiser means 'kiss'. I heard it once or twice though.]
Branleur (Wanker)
Merde (****)
Pédé (fag/homo/etc)
Con (Moron/idiot/etc)
Add a couple of dozen more :D:p:drevil:

When I'm in France, the people there are always surprised that I can swear in their own language.

So you teach you students this? :p
I would love to find my teachers on the internet saying these things :lol:
That would be so funny...
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 21, 2004, 03:58:16 am: Quote
Originally posted by jdjtcagle

So you teach you students this? :p
I would love to find my teachers on the internet saying these things :lol:
That would be so funny...

Ow, that's nothing compared to the fun I have with depicting for examply why and how the first decapitation took place :D

There are always a few boys and girls that go :ick: and :blah:. the rest goes :lol:
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: kasperl on June 21, 2004, 06:47:39 am: I always wondered what would happen if I found out one of you guys was one my teachers.........
When's Holland's next game?
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: kode on June 21, 2004, 06:53:32 am: wednesday, isn't it?
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: karajorma on June 21, 2004, 08:17:22 am: Quote
Originally posted by GT-Keravnos
@Tiara, well If I told you that Greece would go on to the 8 on its first try at the European football championship, would you not laugh, or consider it wishful thinking?

After tonight's results we Greeks have no misconceptions about who we are and what it is we are thougth to be. The worst of the 8. Everyone's favorite whooping boy. French will probably walk all over us.

But we fight. We have and we will. We haven't reached thus far by kissin' @$$3$...

Tonight there is a celebration the likes of which will probably be remembered for years. We love football, and it is nice to know that every once and a while, we get something out of it too.

In a few days we play 11 on 11 with whoever we are set against (Either England or France), with NOTHING to lose (everyone thinks we are gonners already, so no disappointment there), but with EVERYTHING TO WIN.

I'm not knocking Greece at all. They kicked Portugals arse and drew with Spain. Sure Russian beat them but by then they pretty much knew they were going through anyway so I doubt they particularly cared.

By the time you get to the quarter finals there are bad teams really. Any team that makes it can definately surprise you. I'm not assuming that Croatia are a forgon conclusion either. If France draw they could actually win the group by beating England. They aren't the push over many have been claiming either. They nearly spanked the French (Who got lucky AGAIN and managed to wrench a draw from a game they should have lost).

The reason I'd rather play Greece is simply cause many of my family live in Portugal :)
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: GT-Keravnos on June 21, 2004, 09:18:42 am: Karajorma, no problem man!

I just like to see the fact as they are. I believe Greece has 1%-5% chance of making it through to the semi-finals, but that is exponentially more than the 0% that I thought possible.

Yesterday there were celebrations in Athens the likes of which I couldn't believe! 10.000 raving bluwhite maniacs in Omonoia sq. (Athen's most central square). IT WAS WILD.

And now comes the butchers' bill! :D :D :D
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: 01010 on June 21, 2004, 03:51:19 pm: England 4 - Croatia 2

What a game, what a game. That is the reason I watch football.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: BlackDove on June 21, 2004, 03:56:41 pm: My premonitions came true. Very very neat.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Rictor on June 21, 2004, 04:02:36 pm: Hmm, too bad about Croatia, I was hoping they could hold on to that early lead. But I'm glad Greece made it through. They're actually my favourite team in Euro 2004, here's hoping they make in through to the semis...
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: 01010 on June 21, 2004, 04:31:48 pm: Croatia were slaughtered, there was no way they were going to hold onto that lead because they couldn't keep posession.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Nico on June 21, 2004, 04:39:03 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Tiara

Ow, that's nothing compared to the fun I have with depicting for examply why and how the first decapitation took place :D

Can you share the why and the how so I know if I go :ick: , :blah: or :lol: ? :)
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: vyper on June 21, 2004, 04:44:24 pm: Croatia made a good fight of it I thought.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Rictor on June 21, 2004, 04:50:54 pm: Yeah, I held out hope for a bit, seeing as how there have been some pretty major upsets in the past, but it was more or less over once England took the lead.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: kode on June 21, 2004, 05:06:56 pm: meh. the outcome of that match wass as certain as the one between italy and bulgaria is.

also, not too many hours until I know whether to be happy or not. go sweden!
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: 01010 on June 21, 2004, 05:29:51 pm: Quote
Originally posted by vyper
Croatia made a good fight of it I thought.

They did, that's what made it such a good game, two teams attacking. I hate it when a team gets a goal and sits on it for the rest of the game.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: GT-Keravnos on June 22, 2004, 02:28:02 am: Quote
Originally posted by 01010

They did, that's what made it such a good game, two teams attacking. I hate it when a team gets a goal and sits on it for the rest of the game.

Right as you may be, I have still memories of my team's first european game this year. Panathinaikos went to play in Manchester Utd's stadium, and got thrashed losing 4-0 in the half time.

I am more than happy that by playing defensively in mid-field, keeping 2-3 defensive zones and counterattacking, Greece has been spared yet.

(Then again, we have the French to fight, against who, all defensive plans will prove somehow inadequate... :doubt: )

I, and all the Greeks are too happy to have made it thus far.
We :ha: all of you, of this I am sure. ;7

It surely :wtf: us!
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 22, 2004, 03:53:02 am: Quote
Originally posted by kode
meh. the outcome of that match wass as certain as the one between italy and bulgaria is.

That was what we said with Portugal-Greece... :p
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Genryu on June 22, 2004, 04:21:12 am: And 3-1 for the French !!! :D
....
Can someone try to explain how we managed this, exactly ?:blah:
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 22, 2004, 04:23:42 am: Quote
Originally posted by Genryu
Can someone try to explain how we managed this, exactly ?:blah:

Because Switzerland was your opponent? :p
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: kode on June 22, 2004, 04:48:53 am: Quote
Originally posted by Tiara

That was what we said with Portugal-Greece... :p

trust me, bulgaria can't win. that word isn't in their dictionary.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Nico on June 22, 2004, 06:21:55 am: Quote
Originally posted by Genryu
And 3-1 for the French !!! :D
....
Can someone try to explain how we managed this, exactly ?:blah:

And I heard we did pretty poorly too. Funny, I heard that for the 3 matches we played... We're not gonna make it to the final at this rate :p
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Genryu on June 22, 2004, 08:41:27 am: Isn't that what eveybody said for the world cup, too ? ;7
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 22, 2004, 09:14:41 am: Quote
Originally posted by Genryu
Isn't that what eveybody said for the world cup, too ? ;7

Don't mean to disturb you but at the last world cup France didn't win a game, lost to Senegal, lost to Denmark, played to a draw agains Uruguay and ended last in the pool with a grand total of 1 point.

:rolleyes:
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Genryu on June 22, 2004, 12:19:37 pm: I meant the 98 World cup, silly girl :)
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 22, 2004, 02:35:11 pm: :lol: Bulgaria has a 1-0 lead against Italy :lol:
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: BlackDove on June 22, 2004, 02:35:57 pm: 1-0 Bulgaria

1-0 Danmark =

Sweden vs. England in finals.

Please let it stay like this.

edit: to clarify

As second, Sweden goes to play against retards of this year. Czech's that don't have the game once it's taken from them or Germany with players they picked up from the local kindergarden are the best two that will be going against Sweden should they come in second. Then it's either France or Greece in semi's. After that it's finals.

In the upper group, there are tough tough nuts, where I hope England to emerge as victors.

Ownzage in the finals! (England vs. Sweden in the finals is kind of a dream for me, because I want one of those teams to win the Euro more than anyone else).

http://www.euro2004.com/tournament/index.html - predictions are easy to make

edit Crap - 1-1 :p
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: vyper on June 22, 2004, 02:51:44 pm: Italy 1-1 Bulgaria
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: BlackDove on June 22, 2004, 02:52:37 pm: Same with Sweden-Denmark

edit - Sweden 1 - 2 Denmark

edit2: Hehehe 2-2 what a fixup

Last minute was classic. Passing in defence, nobody attacking from the Danish side.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: kode on June 22, 2004, 03:42:08 pm: SWEDEN 2 - 2 DENMARK

We are in the quarter finals, people! This match owned brutally. THANK YOU, CHIPPEN!

oh, and bulgaria lost to italy, just as I said. but still, bye spaghettis ;)
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Rictor on June 22, 2004, 03:42:44 pm: and the spaghetti are out :D:D

hey, don't look at me, I heard that on the BBC. Aww, that was uber-close. 89th minute for christ sake. its too bad, it would have given Badgio a nice chance for a proper farewell...
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: BlackDove on June 22, 2004, 03:44:06 pm: Oh come on, that match was so fixed it was..... fixed.

I don't mind though, I'm Swedish :D
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Rictor on June 22, 2004, 03:46:11 pm: it occurs to me that this is one of the rare instances in which both the loser and the winners are celebrating, namely Sweden and Denmark.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: BlackDove on June 22, 2004, 03:47:18 pm: Maybe that's because both audiences had 2-2 plaques - one of them saying "2-2 is a nordic victory - bye bye italy". It rhymes.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: kode on June 22, 2004, 04:47:15 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Rictor
and the spaghetti are out :D:D

hey, don't look at me, I heard that on the BBC. Aww, that was uber-close. 89th minute for christ sake. its too bad, it would have given Badgio a nice chance for a proper farewell...

yeah, me and my neighbour, whom I was watching the game with, were somewhat of two nervous wrecks in the end their. did that 2-2 goal feel good or what? I usually have to be drunk to feel this happy.

trappatoni will probably lose his job tho. too bad for him :D
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: kode on June 22, 2004, 04:49:51 pm: Quote
Originally posted by BD
Oh come on, that match was so fixed it was..... fixed.

I don't mind though, I'm Swedish :D

Do as the coach says, go to bed ;)
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Windrunner on June 22, 2004, 04:55:42 pm: SEGERN ÄR VÅR, VI HAR nästan VUNNIT SEGERN ÄR VÅR...

Sorry had to do that, i am jst so extatic after the sweden-denmark game :D
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Darkage on June 22, 2004, 04:58:14 pm: tomorrow another match for me to watch.

I should start drinking the moment i come out of work so it would be less painfull if we loose.:D
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: kode on June 22, 2004, 05:24:30 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Windrunner
SEGERN ÄR VÅR, VI HAR nästan VUNNIT SEGERN ÄR VÅR...

Sorry had to do that, i am jst so extatic after the sweden-denmark game :D

the keyword being "almost". I don't think we'll have it easy against germany nor holland. sweden needs to work on the defense, we give the opposing teams way to many shots at our goal. also, it doesn't work to have our team members slip on the grass all the effing time. I hope it'll be against germany, anyway.

so, what about latvia? no chance they'll make it.

btw, was that german ref we had drunk or something?

edit: (http://www.mixpoint.net/dk.gif)
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Genryu on June 22, 2004, 07:01:09 pm: :nervous:
:wtf:
:blah:
Cute pic...
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 23, 2004, 02:06:04 am: Ow, I so hope Holland goes through tonight (with the help of a small miracle). Then it'll be Holland - Sweden :D That would be an awesome game. ;)
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: kasperl on June 23, 2004, 04:50:55 am: Live IRC commenting, guys?

We have to win, while Germany must not win, and then we're through, right?
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 23, 2004, 05:25:05 am: Quote
Originally posted by kasperl
Live IRC commenting, guys?

We have to win, while Germany must not win, and then we're through, right?

Germany wins - Holland out of the tournament no matter what.
Holland loses - Holland out of the tournament no matter what.

Holland wins, Germany plays to a draw - Holland through
Holland wins, Germany loses - Holland through
Holland plays to a draw, Germany loses - Holland goes through (most likely. Unless some freaky outcome is realized)

We do still have a good chance but it's no longer in our own hands. :blah:
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: kode on June 23, 2004, 07:07:26 am: Quote
Originally posted by kasperl
Live IRC commenting, guys?

I can't. game's on saturday, I'll go "home" friday, so I'll have no or little internet. plus, it's one of swedens biggest get-drunk holidays. you do the math. I might watch the game, tho.

you're saying that latvia can go through, but not you?
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: kasperl on June 23, 2004, 07:22:46 am: Eh? I meant the Holland-Latvia game tonight.....
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: kode on June 23, 2004, 08:40:58 am: Quote
Originally posted by kasperl
Eh? I meant the Holland-Latvia game tonight.....

ah, got ya. misunderstood.
well, good luck to you, anyway.

sore losers? yes. (http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=sportsNews&storyID=5493673) they've also egged the danish consulate in milan...
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: mitac on June 23, 2004, 09:27:36 am: Quote
Originally posted by Tiara

We do still have a good chance but it's no longer in our own hands. :blah:

I'm German, and I guess I should be somewhat enthusiastic - regarding the history against the Czechs (4 wins out of 4 games) and regarding our team is one point ahead of Holland.

But I'm not. Hardly anybody here believes we'll make it. Having seen the game against Latvia, with this awful offence...that's no good. Most of the forward players won't score even if the Czechs play without a goalkeeper...

But that won't prevent me from being most hopeful tonight. Though it means Holland is out, which, without offence, must be regarded as their own fault.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 23, 2004, 09:30:05 am: Quote
Originally posted by mitac

But that won't prevent me from being most hopeful tonight. Though it means Holland is out, which, without offence, must be regarded as their own fault.

No offence taken... because it's the sad truth. :(
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: kasperl on June 23, 2004, 09:44:46 am: Well, Advocaats fault mainly, but what the heck.

So who is up for live IRC commenting?
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: USS Alexander on June 23, 2004, 10:54:42 am: HOLAND HOLLAND ALLES IST FORBEI!!!!!!:lol:

(i thought i already posted it for tonight:p)
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: kode on June 23, 2004, 12:17:21 pm: Quote
Originally posted by USS Alexander
HOLAND HOLLAND ALLES IST FORBEI!!!!!!:lol:

(i thought i already posted it for tonight:p)

You're laughing now, but when we crush germany in the quarter finals...
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: USS Alexander on June 23, 2004, 01:23:51 pm: Quote
Originally posted by kode

You're laughing now, but when we crush germany in the quarter finals...

I'm also dutch :lol: i just don't think whe will win from latvia and even if whe did, germany wil win from tjechie.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: kode on June 23, 2004, 03:04:59 pm: Quote
Originally posted by USS Alexander

I'm also dutch :lol:

figures.

what's with those dutchies and freespace?
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 23, 2004, 03:37:41 pm: HOLLAND IS THROUGH! 3-0 VICTORY AGAINST LATVIA AND THE GERMANS LOST!

MUAHAHAHA!

Kode, it's Holland-Sweden in the quarter finals ;7

Truly beautifull... The entire Dutch crowd singing our national anthem. :nod:
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 23, 2004, 03:40:30 pm: Schade Deutschland, alles ist vorbei! :D:p:D
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: USS Alexander on June 23, 2004, 03:41:51 pm: ned latvia 3-0

ger tjech 1-2

OMFG:wtf: that means......ending up drunk tommorow on school:lol:

Go van nistelrooy!!!!!
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: kode on June 23, 2004, 04:02:48 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Tiara
Kode, it's Holland-Sweden in the quarter finals ;7

gives you a couple of days to prepare for defeat, then, doesn't it? ;)
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 23, 2004, 04:04:10 pm: Quote
Originally posted by kode

gives you a couple of days to prepare for defeat, then, doesn't it? ;)

Somehow I doubt we're gonna lose :p But either way, it'll be a great game between two great teams ;):yes:
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Ghostavo on June 23, 2004, 04:19:24 pm: It's a great fealing to win "against all odds" isn't it? :D
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 23, 2004, 04:31:10 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Ghostavo
It's a great fealing to win "against all odds" isn't it? :D

Hell yeah...

Especially seeing as Germany lost to the Chzech B-team :lol: German glory days in football are officially over, or so it seems.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: mitac on June 23, 2004, 04:57:53 pm: :( Well, nobody is really surprised.

Rather - well, shocked.

Congratulations to Holland, though the first two goals were rather doubtful in terms of the rules. A penalty that was none, and the second goal smelled a lot like offside. Furthermore, I'd not say the "glory days" are over. There's a lot of potential in the young players, really a lot. Especially that young offensive player, Podolski, since he's from "my" club. :D

Ah, and it's "Alles ist vorbei". Just for the wrong team.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Stunaep on June 26, 2004, 04:31:46 pm: AAAAH! STUPID, STUPID, STUPID, STUPID GOALKEEPER!

Why did he have to catch that ball? Why I ask you.

This is a really, really dissappointing, (albeit interesting) tournament. Every team I've stood for has lost. England - out thanks to Spice Boy, France - out, Sweden - out, and soon, denmark will bite it from the Chechzs.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Ghostavo on June 26, 2004, 04:31:49 pm: w00t!!!

This Euro is getting wierder and wierder by the second
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Stunaep on June 26, 2004, 04:50:07 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Tiara

Hell yeah...

Especially seeing as Germany lost to the Chzech B-team :lol: German glory days in football are officially over, or so it seems.

Yeah, I'll grant you that, that's one good thing that's gotten out of this tournament.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 26, 2004, 05:48:14 pm: Hehehe... Holland is through :D
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: mitac on June 26, 2004, 06:33:13 pm: It's really astounding that Holland won a game through penalties. Hasn't happened often lately, has it? Just three world cups and two more european cups, and they're on par with Germany. :p

Anyway, next round's against Portugal, which I hope will end in a better mood for me. ;7 Still very nice that a german coach is still in the tournament with Greece. :) Would be weird, yet very nice if they won the title.

P.S.: HLP is alive! I had almost thought it was kicked out of the tournament, as well...
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Darkage on June 26, 2004, 07:51:32 pm: I feel good tu du du du....i feel good so good!:D

YEAH!!!!

have sex with me!:p
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Rictor on June 26, 2004, 08:38:22 pm: Italy, England, France, Germany - what the hell is going on?

oh and:

(http://www.slamonline.com/links/becks.jpg)
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Rictor on June 26, 2004, 08:40:58 pm: in other news, the Greeks are the awesomest people on the planet. I wasn't watching/listening to the game, but I freaked out when I was the result. Apparently, there was quite a party/riot going on in Toronto's Greek area. They might actually pull it off...
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 26, 2004, 08:46:24 pm: Quote
Originally posted by mitac
It's really astounding that Holland won a game through penalties.

Uhuh, the curse is finally broken :D
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Hasn't happened often lately, has it? Just three world cups and two more european cups, and they're on par with Germany. :p

Seriously, at this moment, Holland is so far beyond the reach of Germany they could only wish to be like Holland :p Holland actually became a team in this tournament. They grew quite fast. They become better every game.

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Anyway, next round's against Portugal, which I hope will end in a better mood for me. ;7 Still very nice that a german coach is still in the tournament with Greece. :) Would be weird, yet very nice if they won the title.

Heh, yeah, Portugal will be a tough one. But I have fate in our team's ability to cope with them. Their style of play combined with the sheer amount of arrogance from certain players (*cough*Figo*cough*), would make it a tad bit easier for Holland. They aren't the tough ass or hard working teams like the Chzechs or even Sweden. And that's the kind of team we Dutchies hate to play against.

As for Greece: :D. I just love it when a tiny country makes it far. Ofcourse I'm still hoping for a Holland-Chzech Republik final to settle the score once and for all.;)
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Ghostavo on June 26, 2004, 09:35:27 pm: Portugal is a tiny country too... :nervous:

Although I'd love to see Greece win the tournment :D
Title: I AM BEGINNING TO BELIEVE
Post by: GT-Keravnos on June 27, 2004, 02:24:36 am: Quote
Originally posted by GT-Keravnos
Karajorma, no problem man!

I just like to see the fact as they are. I believe Greece has 1%-5% chance of making it through to the semi-finals, but that is exponentially more than the 0% that I thought possible.

Yesterday there were celebrations in Athens the likes of which I couldn't believe! 10.000 raving bluwhite maniacs in Omonoia sq. (Athen's most central square). IT WAS WILD.

And now comes the butchers' bill! :D :D :D

Ok, if you think I should print out my words and eat them, I will.

Just that, would you think in the beginning that Greece would win France and advance through in the semis? I wouldn't. I said as much.

After beating France, Police estimats that 300.000 people went out on the Streets in Athens alone. No-one believed what was happening. I still don't...

Our favorite chant goes like... "Pick up/lift the f**king thing, can't wait for it already", so yours truly, ouzoed up to the gills along with some ouzoed up friends, would approach his bike to mini-wearing girls and chanted it to them too... :) ;7 Too bad I was too drunk to be able to exploit the situation fully.

As for the Butcher's bill, I really can't tell you. Seems that our favorite dish became baked rooster :D and not just that, but we ate all poultry related products. So, no butcher's bill 'cause no rooster to be found. All in all, I think that the best team advanced. France wanted but couldn't. Greece got lucky, but still, luck IS IN THE GAME, and undoubtedly, Greece was the better team.

As for the celebrations, if we win it, I will probably be dead from exhaustion, ouzo-drinking, and heart-attack. I can't speak, and got a bruised left hand due to the fact that I fell of my bike during the celebrations with france.

Yes, final Holland-Greece. Portugal may still go through, but I have this gut feeling, and I have to spell it out. Before you say that Greece shouldn't make it so far and that I should stop speaking already, I refer you to my quote... :)

As for the game with Sweden...

Both sides could win it, but God owes Holland something penalty-wise. V. der sar is the only keeper that is toasted in Holland. Drink a Beer for him Guys, (and Girl :) )

HE EARNED IT!!! :yes:
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: GT-Keravnos on June 27, 2004, 02:34:25 am: Quote
Originally posted by Rictor
in other news, the Greeks are the awesomest people on the planet. I wasn't watching/listening to the game, but I freaked out when I was the result. Apparently, there was quite a party/riot going on in Toronto's Greek area. They might actually pull it off...

Thank you Rictor. Seems like King Leonidas using 300 troops to stop a million Persians long ago, wasn't just a one-hit-wonder!

"SIKOSE TO TO GAMIMENO DEN MPORO NA PERIMENO!"

:D :D :D :D
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Nico on June 27, 2004, 05:41:30 am: I'll say only one thing:
told you :p
Title: Re: I AM BEGINNING TO BELIEVE
Post by: Stunaep on June 27, 2004, 05:44:39 am: Quote
Originally posted by GT-Keravnos

.

Yes, final Holland-Greece. Portugal may still go through, but I have this gut feeling, and I have to spell it out. Before you say that Greece shouldn't make it so far and that I should stop speaking already, I refer you to my quote... :)

Someone seems to have completely forgotten about the chechzs, who need I remind you aced the group that had Holland and Germany in it. I'm betting them for the finals.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: wojta on June 27, 2004, 05:47:32 am: Czech, not Chzech ! :hopping: :mad2:

Ok, but i don't care much about football. I would rather be playing Freespace 2. :lol:
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 27, 2004, 05:48:57 am: Holland-Czech Republik, that's my type of final. To settle the score once and for all :D
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: kasperl on June 27, 2004, 05:51:18 am: Really, that was unexpected.....

And what a rough match too (Holland-Sweden). Lots of fouls, 4 yellow cards total, and some really ugly tackles. And Ibrahimovich's "penalty" was a joke, good thing this ref had eyes and a brain. The best thing of the match was Van der Sar's face after he saved that penalty.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 27, 2004, 06:09:53 am: Quote
Originally posted by kasperl
The best thing of the match was Van der Sar's face after he saved that penalty.

That was awesome! :D

Ofcourse this is an awesome sight as well:

(http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Photo/competitions/EURO/201656_BIGLANDSCAPE.jpg)

:D:D:D:D:D
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: 01010 on June 27, 2004, 06:23:55 am: Since Englands departure (the game should never have even gone to extra time, some truly awful refereeing in that match) I'd really love to see either Greece or the Czech Republic pull something off. I was really happy for Greece when they knocked France out.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Stunaep on June 27, 2004, 06:39:16 am: Quote
Originally posted by wojta
Czech, not Chzech ! :hopping: :mad2:

Hmf, sorry, point taken. Interesting though, that that's the second match that's gotten to penalties this year. Teh czechs will beat the danes, no problem (unfortunately), but I wouldn't be surprised if one of the semifinals got to penalties as well.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: karajorma on June 27, 2004, 07:10:39 am: Quote
Originally posted by 01010
Since Englands departure (the game should never have even gone to extra time, some truly awful refereeing in that match)

Truely awful playing from England too.

Let me put it this way. There were three points in that match when England needed a goal.

At the start, when Portugal scored the equaliser and when they scored the first goal in extra time. Each of those time England needed a goal and each time they scored in under 5 minutes.

Everyone is blaming the ref or the penalty spot but the fact is that we should have pissed all over them. Had England played up to their potential a single disallowed goal wouldn't have changed the outcome.

That said the refereeing was abysmal. Am I the only one who noticed a time when play continued despite the ball having crossed the goal line by more than a foot?
Title: Re: Re: I AM BEGINNING TO BELIEVE
Post by: GT-Keravnos on June 27, 2004, 07:23:48 am: Quote
Originally posted by Stunaep

Someone seems to have completely forgotten about the chechzs, who need I remind you aced the group that had Holland and Germany in it. I'm betting them for the finals.

I haven't forgotten about the Czech, and I am not discounting them, no sir. I am just not afraid of them, and I feel we can take them.

Of course, my hometeam is Panathinaikos, and Henriksen (Danish defender) is my ALL TIME DEFENSIVE HERO, and one of the more unknown heros there are.

I repeat the name Henriksen

I think he is the most solid defensive player I have ever seen. I wish him and his team all the luck in the world.

Go Denmark!

** And to all those concerned. Both teams, either Czechs or Danes could easily throw Greece out. However like NEO, I feel in a foolhardly way, that after France, Greece can take on any team.

Must be too much ouzo!! ;7
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: 01010 on June 27, 2004, 07:43:53 am: Quote
Originally posted by karajorma

Truely awful playing from England too.

Let me put it this way. There were three points in that match when England needed a goal.

At the start, when Portugal scored the equaliser and when they scored the first goal in extra time. Each of those time England needed a goal and each time they scored in under 5 minutes.

Everyone is blaming the ref or the penalty spot but the fact is that we should have pissed all over them. Had England played up to their potential a single disallowed goal wouldn't have changed the outcome.

That said the refereeing was abysmal. Am I the only one who noticed a time when play continued despite the ball having crossed the goal line by more than a foot?

I noticed that, I'm not sure the ball crossed but it happened so fast it was hard to tell and I've not seen it since.

England were poor, no doubt (though the defence was top notch for the most part, a lot of people have been ignoring that) but it was robbery, at the end of it all it's not the team that plays best or has the most posession (if that were the case games would have a panel of judges) it's about the amount of goals in 90 minutes. Had that perfectly valid goal been allowed we wouldn't be having this discussion.

I just wish we'd have played the attacking game that we are capable of, we proved we could go out and score when Portugal equalised and when they went ahead, why can't we prove it when we're ahead rather than sit on a 1-0 lead?
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: karajorma on June 27, 2004, 07:57:18 am: Quote
Originally posted by 01010
England were poor, no doubt (though the defence was top notch for the most part, a lot of people have been ignoring that) but it was robbery, at the end of it all it's not the team that plays best or has the most posession (if that were the case games would have a panel of judges) it's about the amount of goals in 90 minutes. Had that perfectly valid goal been allowed we wouldn't be having this discussion.

The defense was good but was far too deep. With players the quailty England have it's not hard to defend the last quarter of the pitch by simply sticking all your players there. I do wholeheartedly agree that England were robbed but it's the kind of robbery you get if you walk through the roughest area of town with hands tied together and a wad of cash sticking out of your top pocket.

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Originally posted by 01010
I just wish we'd have played the attacking game that we are capable of, we proved we could go out and score when Portugal equalised and when they went ahead, why can't we prove it when we're ahead rather than sit on a 1-0 lead?

That's the reason why I stopped cheering the Owen goal very early on.

1. England play better when they are behind.
2. England had scored from a long ball forward. The stupid strategy of doing so had worked so I knew that they'd keep doing it. In fact I knew they'd do it more often because they'd keep most of their men in defence.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 27, 2004, 08:00:49 am: That's why I like Dutch strategy. Pressure all the way and not sitting on a lead :D Offensive football owns :p

Though they do have a tendency to get cocky when they're up frotn. But they haven't really shown that this tournament besides in the game against the Czechs. And obviously they learned from it.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: 01010 on June 27, 2004, 08:11:25 am: Quote
Originally posted by karajorma

The defense was good but was far too deep. With players the quailty England have it's not hard to defend the last quarter of the pitch by simply sticking all your players there. I do wholeheartedly agree that England were robbed but it's the kind of robbery you get if you walk through the roughest area of town with hands tied together and a wad of cash sticking out of your top pocket.

That's the reason why I stopped cheering the Owen goal very early on.

1. England play better when they are behind.
2. England had scored from a long ball forward. The stupid strategy of doing so had worked so I knew that they'd keep doing it. In fact I knew they'd do it more often because they'd keep most of their men in defence.

I completely agree on all those points. James was not dong his job properly in keeping the defence up the field, I hate defend in the box. Scary stuff. I also hate the long ball, we dominate games when we keep short passes and close posession, why we insist on a stupid ****ing long ball strategy when it NEVER works is beyond me.

I liked the robbery analogy, spot on.

It's just horrible when you know that the team has great potential but just can't perform as a team the second we lose an 18 year old kid (I think Rooney's injury killed our game).
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: karajorma on June 27, 2004, 08:12:38 am: I know. It's a much better strategy. The only reason we held out so long against Portugal was that ever Portuguese midfielder or striker seemed determined to win man of the match and kept taking shots from 25-30 yards out :D

Had we been playing against a team like Brazil we would have been crucified for trying it.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: kasperl on June 27, 2004, 08:14:08 am: Quote
Originally posted by Tiara
That's why I like Dutch strategy. Pressure all the way and not sitting on a lead :D Offensive football owns :p

Though they do have a tendency to get cocky when they're up frotn. But they haven't really shown that this tournament besides in the game against the Czechs. And obviously they learned from it.

Yeah, they didn't do it this tournament, but they lost plenty of games that way.

And the fact only Cocu missed a penalty this tournament is pretty amazing, compared to Holland-Italy 4 years ago.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 27, 2004, 08:17:45 am: Quote
Originally posted by kasperl

And the fact only Cocu missed a penalty this tournament is pretty amazing, compared to Holland-Italy 4 years ago.

The curse is broken :D

This ofcourse to the credit of the youngsters as well :D

GO ROBBEN! :nod:
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Ghostavo on June 27, 2004, 08:19:02 am: Quote
Originally posted by karajorma
The only reason we held out so long against Portugal was that ever Portuguese midfielder or striker seemed determined to win man of the match and kept taking shots from 25-30 yards out :D

I thought they kept doing that because they were afraid of a counter-attack, which England is particularly excelent in doing as was demonstrated in the game. :nervous:
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: karajorma on June 27, 2004, 08:35:41 am: Quote
Originally posted by Ghostavo
I thought they kept doing that because they were afraid of a counter-attack, which England is particularly excelent in doing as was demonstrated in the game. :nervous:

That's a possible explaination for some of them but quite often they had men in the box and ignored them to take a shot which would have made a much better rugby conversion.

Basically there was nothing in that match that didn't disappoint me.

England played badly. Portugal seemed good but that was only cause England was so bad. They gave away possession sloppily too. They certainly didn't play like a team which before Euro started was supposed to be the best one in the competition. Even the refereeing disappointed me. Not just the disallowed goal but I saw some clear fouls commited by England that the ref completely failed to spot.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 27, 2004, 08:36:58 am: Quote
Originally posted by karajorma

That's a possible explaination for some of them but quite often they had men in the box and ignored them to take a shot which would have made a much better rugby conversion.

Basically there was nothing in that match that didn't disappoint me.

England played badly. Portugal seemed good but that was only cause England was so bad. They gave away possession sloppily too. They certainly didn't play like a team which before Euro started was supposed to be the best one in the competition. Even the refereeing disappointed me. Not just the disallowed goal but I saw some clear fouls commited by England that the ref completely failed to spot.

WE SHALL AVENGE YOU! :D
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Ghostavo on June 27, 2004, 08:38:31 am: NO YOU WON'T! :nervous:
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: karajorma on June 27, 2004, 08:43:02 am: Actually since I'm part Portuguese I'm probably going to be rooting for them. It wasn't their fault that the referee was blind. Neither was it their fault that we were **** :D
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: TopAce on June 27, 2004, 09:38:46 am: Do I remember well that Backham missed another penalty in Euro2000 as well?

I feel sorry for England, I wouldn't say they played badly.
I cheer for Holland and the Czechs.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: karajorma on June 27, 2004, 09:52:39 am: Quote
Originally posted by TopAce
Do I remember well that Backham missed another penalty in Euro2000 as well?

I feel sorry for England, I wouldn't say they played badly.

What match were you watching? England completely failed to retain possession and instead huddled around the goal mouth like the last survivors of a massacre.

Sure their defensive play wasn't bad but the point is that they should never have been playing defensively in the first place. Only an idiot would attempt to defend a 1-0 lead for 90 minutes but that's precisely what England attempted to do even though it had cost us the game against France (not to mention the game against Brazil).

And yes. Beckham missed a penalty against France that would have put us 2-0 up.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: TopAce on June 27, 2004, 10:23:00 am: I was talking about England vs. Portugal.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: karajorma on June 27, 2004, 10:40:20 am: Quote
Originally posted by TopAce
I was talking about England vs. Portugal.

:wtf: So was I :wtf:

I would have thought that was clear.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: TopAce on June 27, 2004, 10:55:06 am: Wasn't it?
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: karajorma on June 27, 2004, 11:11:10 am: Where's the big :wtf: smiley when you need it.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: TopAce on June 27, 2004, 12:35:56 pm: ((Misunderstanding discussed))
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: karajorma on June 27, 2004, 01:59:23 pm: Sarcasm is just another 7 letter word you don't know the meaning of isn't it TopAce?
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: aldo_14 on June 27, 2004, 04:19:28 pm: (http://howstrange.com/b3tapics/beckham_penalty.jpg)
(http://spidster.f9.co.uk/upload/db23.jpg)
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: 01010 on June 27, 2004, 05:20:06 pm: Chris Waddles ball is still in the troposphere, even Beckhams kick can't match that. :)
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Flipside on June 27, 2004, 06:37:06 pm: Well, I must admit, I half expected the ball in this years Euro to develop a pair of eyes and start talking like Windsor Davies.

Looks like something out of a 70's sci-fi movie ;)
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Rictor on June 27, 2004, 07:30:21 pm: Quote
Originally posted by aldo_14
(http://spidster.f9.co.uk/upload/db23.jpg)

:lol: :lol:

Its funny cause its true. Pretty boy can't shoot penalties worth crap.

After today's Czech victory over Denmark, I'm starting to doubt Greek's chances against them. Having the highest scoring Euro 2004 player is bound to give the Czechs the edge. But here's hoping.

oh, and I really, really hope that Portugal thoroughly smashes Holland. Not only will there be much celebration in my neighborhood (lots of Portugese) but also that I just couldn't bear to see the Dutchies through to the finals. C'mon Karma, show me some love.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: vyper on June 27, 2004, 07:37:55 pm: ****ing hell I've heard too much of this.

I'm a Scotsman, and thus it's my national duty to wish England well in losing to everyone. However, this abuse of Beckham is unfair - he plays solid games, continuous levels of play. Just because he doesn't go charging up and make rooney (sp?) look slow doesn't make him a bad player.

As for penalties - think about how many he's put away in his career against those that he's missed.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: 01010 on June 28, 2004, 01:39:31 am: Quote
Originally posted by vyper

As for penalties - think about how many he's put away in his career against those that he's missed.

What is it, 3-4 misses at international level against how many scored? I agree with you, the guy isn't on form of late but he isn't a turkey, not yet.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: karajorma on June 28, 2004, 02:36:21 am: Quote
Originally posted by Flipside
Well, I must admit, I half expected the ball in this years Euro to develop a pair of eyes and start talking like Windsor Davies.

:lol:

Now that you mention it I do see a resemblance to Sgt. Major Zero. :)
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: aldo_14 on June 28, 2004, 04:39:17 am: Quote
Originally posted by karajorma

:lol:

Now that you mention it I do see a resemblance to Sgt. Major Zero. :)

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The roteiro

(http://www.sport.bayer.com/medien/produkte/150/roteiro_150.jpg)
Sg. Major Zero
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: TopAce on June 28, 2004, 04:48:17 am: Not sure I am still welcome in this thread. All I want to say is that I wasn't expecting the Czechs to win against Denmark so easily.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 28, 2004, 06:15:29 am: It wasn't exactly 'easy'. The entire first half was for the Danish team. Much of the second half as well. That was untill one counter from Czechs put an end to it. :p Once the Czechs smelled blood they went for it. It was over in 15 minutes.

If the Danish had a little bit more finishing capability in this match they could've been up front by 2/3-0 in the first half.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Ghostavo on June 28, 2004, 07:42:31 am: Oh well... third time Portugal ever plays in the semi-finals of an European Championship... every time it lost... how are the Netherlands' records?
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Nico on June 28, 2004, 09:10:29 am: Third time? You know how it goes, never two... :D
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 28, 2004, 09:19:41 am: Quote
Originally posted by Ghostavo
Oh well... third time Portugal ever plays in the semi-finals of an European Championship... every time it lost... how are the Netherlands' records?

Dutch results:

'76 - Third
'88 - European Champion
'92 - Third
'00 - Third

So, Holland lost 3 semi-finals as well :p But we won one and became champion :D
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Ghostavo on June 28, 2004, 11:51:43 am: Now it's our turn... :nervous: I hope
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: mitac on June 29, 2004, 10:08:40 am: Tomorrow on the Euro 2004 : the first match in the semi-finals.

Just reminding you. ;)
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 29, 2004, 10:45:26 am: GO HOLLAND! :D
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Stunaep on June 29, 2004, 11:02:03 am: As much, as I've previously stated my anti-hollandness, I must agree with ms. T.

GO HOLLAND, the only decent team left.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: jdjtcagle on June 29, 2004, 11:08:41 am: GO HOLLAND.. hit a grandslam!!! uhh.. what sport is this? :nervous:
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 29, 2004, 11:08:55 am: Quote
Originally posted by Stunaep
GO HOLLAND, the only decent team left.

Heh, my summarization of the other teams:

Portugal: A team full of arrogant bastards. Just look at Figo. The prime example. He's offended like hell because his trainer substituted him while he was playing an awefull game. After he was substitued everything went smoother.

Greeks: Well, what can I say. Small team, great accomplishment. However, will probably not succeed against the Czechs.

Czechs: Pretty awesome team. Haven't lost a single game. But they play a wussy style. Hang back with the entire team on your own half and counter when possible. I hate those pussy tactics. Also, their star Nedved is a whiny *****.

I do hope however, that Holland and the Czechs reach the final so that we can shut them up once and for all :p
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: TopAce on June 29, 2004, 12:17:04 pm: I predict a Portugal - Czech Republic final. And in the final, the Czechs will win. I like all four teams, I really don't take care who reaches the Zenith.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Stunaep on June 29, 2004, 12:23:08 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Tiara
Portugal: A team full of arrogant bastards. Just look at Figo. The prime example. He's offended like hell because his trainer substituted him while he was playing an awefull game. After he was substitued everything went smoother.

Gotta admit though, hiring Scholari as their coach was a prime move. As much as I respect Sven Göran Erikson, he lacked the balls to remove Beckham from the game, when he saw things weren't going well for him. Scholari removed Figo, twice, despite his 'star' status.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: TopAce on June 29, 2004, 12:30:22 pm: Beckham is useful at free kicks, that's why Erikson left him in the team.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 29, 2004, 01:20:57 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Stunaep

Gotta admit though, hiring Scholari as their coach was a prime move. As much as I respect Sven Göran Erikson, he lacked the balls to remove Beckham from the game, when he saw things weren't going well for him. Scholari removed Figo, twice, despite his 'star' status.

Yup, that guy deserves respect. Figo on the other hand deserves none whatsoever.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Stunaep on June 29, 2004, 01:26:31 pm: Quote
Originally posted by TopAce
Beckham is useful at free kicks, that's why Erikson left him in the team.

And look where that got him. Granted, there was that problem with the 11 metre mark, the loose grass, or whatever, but still, he managed to miss 3 penalties in a row in his games for England. How pathetic is that.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Darkage on June 29, 2004, 01:54:58 pm: Good reason to drink beer tomorrow while watching the game:D

GO HOLLAND!
GO BEER!
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Ghostavo on June 29, 2004, 02:20:11 pm: GO PORTUGAL!

:nervous:

Tiara, not all players are arrogant, you are generalising... if that was the case, I could clearly say the same thing for every team in the world.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: GT-Keravnos on June 30, 2004, 02:01:36 am: And still after all this time, after eliminating France, winning the host nation, equaling el torros, and losing to a departing squad, still noone gives Greek squad the respect they deserve. Still, they consider them "the mice that roared".

Well, Even if it is curtains today, tommorow everyone will be speaking about Greece. What we did against France to me epitomizes David Vs Goliath and is stuff of myth. I know where I was and what I did that day so that I may pass it on to my kids (should I be fortunate enough to have them).

From that point on, the future will be revealed in time.

as I said before like Neo, I AM BEGINNING TO BELIEVE. If we can beat the Czechs, there is no stopping us from getting the cup.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: TopAce on June 30, 2004, 04:16:23 am: Optmistic. Neither I underestimate nor I scorn the Greeks, they deserve commendation for even reaching the semi-finals.
The Czech Republic - Greece will be an interesting 'battle'. That match will be even better than the Portugal - Netherlands.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: aldo_14 on June 30, 2004, 07:22:45 am: Quote
Originally posted by Tiara

Heh, my summarization of the other teams:

Portugal: A team full of arrogant bastards. Just look at Figo. The prime example. He's offended like hell because his trainer substituted him while he was playing an awefull game. After he was substitued everything went smoother.

Greeks: Well, what can I say. Small team, great accomplishment. However, will probably not succeed against the Czechs.

Czechs: Pretty awesome team. Haven't lost a single game. But they play a wussy style. Hang back with the entire team on your own half and counter when possible. I hate those pussy tactics. Also, their star Nedved is a whiny *****.

I do hope however, that Holland and the Czechs reach the final so that we can shut them up once and for all :p

hm... I reckon;

Dutch - Probably the best attacking squad, weak defense (converted wide midefielder as a center back, arguablky a bit slow, Davids can be flaky from match to match). Probably the best striker and winger (Van Nistelrooy and Robbens) in the tournament, but an iffy manager (he bough Bert Konterman for £4m fer ****s sake). Winners if they can find fluency and get Van Der Meyde to actually play as well as Robbens.

Portugal - Good central defense in Andrade and Carvalho (probably the best in the tournament), great flair in midfield but no outsanding goal scorers, and no good naturally left (footed) winger. Can beat the Dutch (and win the tournament), provided they can get a reliable goal-scoring threat to go with the defense. Need to get Cristiano Ronaldo to cross the ball to his own team once in a while, though.

Czech - Good technique, very patient in terms of buildup. Maybe lack pace - that would be my worry - except for Baros up front. Yeah, they play counter-attack - but it works, and well. The fact they came back from behind to win every game shows their attacking strength. Probably the most cohesive midfield in the tournament. The Portugese and Dutch have better individuals (with the exception of Nedved), but neither have struck me as being as cohesive a unit.

Greece - worst individuals out of the 4, but the best tactics and teamwork. Also just about the only team in the tournament able to hold onto a lead.... albeit they were pretty much outplayed by the Spanish (who threw that match away when Raul missed a sitter), so I'm not sure about they're ability when they're being outplayed, as is likely.

Holland are probably my favourites - simply because the Portugese have problems scoring. I reckon they'll meet the Czechs again in the final (dangerous as it is to write off the Greeks), and should have learned enough from the group stages to actually take and hold a lead.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 30, 2004, 07:52:08 am: Quote
Originally posted by aldo_14

hm... I reckon;

Dutch - Probably the best attacking squad, weak defense (converted wide midefielder as a center back, arguablky a bit slow, Davids can be flaky from match to match). Probably the best striker and winger (Van Nistelrooy and Robbens) in the tournament, but an iffy manager (he bough Bert Konterman for £4m fer ****s sake). Winners if they can find fluency and get Van Der Meyde to actually play as well as Robbens.

As for the Defense: You're totally forgetting Stam and Reiziger. Stam is usually able to take on and stop the best attackers (as proven against Larsson and Ibrahimovich) on his own. He makes up for the converted midfielder. Reiziger is very good at defending the flanks. I admit that defense does have some small cracks in it, but it's certainly not as bad as you make it out to be.

Van Der Meyde needs to be substituted by Overmars. Overmars is arguably the fastest winger in the tournament. He's proven to be able to get past the best defenders and not only on speed but on skill as well.

Robben - v. Nistelrooy - Overmars is my favourite Dutch offense. Its got speed and skill on the flanks and a goal getter as striker.

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Portugal - Good central defense in Andrade and Carvalho (probably the best in the tournament), great flair in midfield but no outsanding goal scorers, and no good naturally left (footed) winger. Can beat the Dutch (and win the tournament), provided they can get a reliable goal-scoring threat to go with the defense. Need to get Cristiano Ronaldo to cross the ball to his own team once in a while, though.

Yeah, Portugal is a decent team. At the very least. But as you said, miss a good goal getter. Also, i find Christiano Ronaldo a bit... overrated. His fancy tricks (that rarely work) and his abismal crosses really don't impress me.

Figo isn't at the top of his game either ATM.
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Czech - Good technique, very patient in terms of buildup. Maybe lack pace - that would be my worry - except for Baros up front. Yeah, they play counter-attack - but it works, and well. The fact they came back from behind to win every game shows their attacking strength. Probably the most cohesive midfield in the tournament. The Portugese and Dutch have better individuals (with the exception of Nedved), but neither have struck me as being as cohesive a unit.

I agree with this. Besides the cohesive unit part. That's where the Dutch have grown. In the first round they were shaky at best. But against the Czechs, Latvia and Sweden they've provenm to have grown. If they continue this trend I predict great trouble for Portugal and whomever may be in the Final against them.

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Greece - worst individuals out of the 4, but the best tactics and teamwork. Also just about the only team in the tournament able to hold onto a lead.... albeit they were pretty much outplayed by the Spanish (who threw that match away when Raul missed a sitter), so I'm not sure about they're ability when they're being outplayed, as is likely.

Yeah, THE underdog of the tournament. The South-Korea of the EC. Also a foreign coach, little individual qualities but a helluva tight team and good tactics.

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Holland are probably my favourites - simply because the Portugese have problems scoring. I reckon they'll meet the Czechs again in the final (dangerous as it is to write off the Greeks), and should have learned enough from the group stages to actually take and hold a lead.

Then we are in agreement on this :D
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: aldo_14 on June 30, 2004, 08:11:01 am: I like Overmars as a player- he was a revalation at Arsenal in particular - but every time I've seen him play for Barca he's been almost completely ineffective.

Likewise Reizeger - he's never impressed me in terms of either defensive ability or his attacking (I watch a lot of La Liga football), and I can understand why Barca brought in Beletti and preferred Gabri as a replacement. He has looked more impressive for the Dutch than he did last season - for one thing he actually looks like getting a shot on target - but I can still see why Heitinga and even Ricksen have played there.

Stam...is a good player, one of the best centerbacks in the world, but I'm not sure how much he can cope with pacy players. I think he looked much better with (Frank) de Boer beside him, though - de Boer is still one of the best readers of a game I've seen, it's a shame he's off to Qatar next season.

I think the Dutch team is still a bit shaky... bringing in Seedorf has made a massive improvement, but they've yet to amaze me. They still look like the team that played Scotland - capable of ineptitude and brilliance from match to match (or even half to half).
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 30, 2004, 09:02:11 am: Quote
Originally posted by aldo_14
(or even half to half).

*looks back on Holland - Czech Republik in the first round*

:o

You can say that again...
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: kasperl on June 30, 2004, 09:14:04 am: Well, Overmars is probably in for tonnight, good thing too.

Who's up for live IRC commenting on the match?
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: aldo_14 on June 30, 2004, 09:17:44 am: Quote
Originally posted by kasperl
Well, Overmars is probably in for tonnight, good thing too.

Who's up for live IRC commenting on the match?

Er.... I'd rather watch it on the telly.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: kasperl on June 30, 2004, 09:24:22 am: Granted, but a laptop, 12 ft of Cat-5, and a TV in front of my bed let me do both.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: aldo_14 on June 30, 2004, 09:25:33 am: Quote
Originally posted by kasperl
Granted, but a laptop, 12 ft of Cat-5, and a TV in front of my bed let me do both.

Dare I ask why?
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: vyper on June 30, 2004, 09:39:57 am: To avoid commentators comparing every move to the England team?
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 30, 2004, 09:40:03 am: I'm not gonna spoil the game by going on IRC :p I'm gonna watch it with my friends :D
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: aldo_14 on June 30, 2004, 09:51:24 am: Quote
Originally posted by vyper
To avoid commentators comparing every move to the England team?

If it's on eurosport, that isn't usually as big of a problem ;) (commentary is much better than bbc / itv)
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: kasperl on June 30, 2004, 09:54:20 am: Quote
Originally posted by aldo_14

Dare I ask why?

Because it might just be nicer then watching it all be meself and screaming into thin air? As far as screaming is possible with the flue, that is.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 30, 2004, 10:25:50 am: Don't got any friends or family who watch football?
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: aldo_14 on June 30, 2004, 10:27:04 am: Flu = quarantine ?
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 30, 2004, 10:32:33 am: Ow, didn't see that :p My bad. :)
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: kasperl on June 30, 2004, 11:08:15 am: No, Tiara got it right the first time.....

My parents aren't football lovers, and friends, well, not those who would actually get of their lasy asses for anything..

As for quarantaine, **** that, I've got exams. I've probably infected at least one teacher by now, but rather that then doing over a weeks worth of exams in 2 days.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Darkage on June 30, 2004, 01:11:28 pm: LOLZ.....3rd beer for tonight got atleast make the 30 beer line:D
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Ghostavo on June 30, 2004, 03:05:26 pm: w00t!!!!!!!!

2-0 until now... :nervous:
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Rictor on June 30, 2004, 03:27:30 pm: gogo Portugal!
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Ghostavo on June 30, 2004, 03:39:30 pm: We are on the Finals!!!!!!!!!!

W00t!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 30, 2004, 03:40:21 pm: Congrats Portugal! Good game you deserved to win :):yes:

Now nobody can accuse me of being a sore loser :p We deserved to lose. It was an abismal game from our side. :(

But I don't care so much anymore because I just got promoted at my job :D (Heard it during half time :p)
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Rictor on June 30, 2004, 03:42:12 pm: Take that ya clog-wearing heathens!

I already hear the cars honking outside. Now if Greece beats the Czechs, I'll be a happy camper indeed.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 30, 2004, 03:43:40 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Rictor
Take that ya clog-wearing heathens!

I might not be a sore loser, but you are a sore winner :p
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Ghostavo on June 30, 2004, 03:45:50 pm: Not if he is not on either side... :p

I still can't believe it... the first time ever we are on the finals of an European championship... it would be really REALLY cool if Portugal won. :D Then we could say we won 2 European Titles in one year :D
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: aldo_14 on June 30, 2004, 03:48:44 pm: Portugese deserved it, they played well - although the Dutch performance was very disappointing. :nod:
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Rictor on June 30, 2004, 03:49:13 pm: I wish I was a sore winner. At this point, I wish I was a sore didn't-even-make-it-past-the-first-rounder. Though I can take some comfort in that fact that like half the teams in the tournaments had our players on them.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Stunaep on June 30, 2004, 03:50:15 pm: Oh well, I'm getting used to having every team I cheer for lose. ****, if Portugal and Czechs go to the finals, I won't know which one to cheer for. I don't like either team.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Ghostavo on June 30, 2004, 03:52:34 pm: For the love of god, cheer the Czechs :shaking:
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Rictor on June 30, 2004, 04:25:47 pm: the BBC has an awesome "lookalikes" section. Funny stuff

http://www.bbc.co.uk/fivelive/euro2004/votes/lookalikes_16.shtml
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Darkage on June 30, 2004, 04:40:33 pm: Quote
Originally posted by aldo_14
Portugese deserved it, they played well - although the Dutch performance was very disappointing. :nod:

your so right, can i have sex with youwq?

lewts drink more this sucks monkey balls
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: TopAce on June 30, 2004, 04:41:21 pm: What a match that was! Portugal scored 3! 2 to Netherlands and 1 to their own goal. :D
I thought the Netherlands would qualify. No matter.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on June 30, 2004, 04:41:38 pm: One beer too many, Daan? :D

Ow, wait. Too much beer is impossible...
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Darkage on June 30, 2004, 04:44:10 pm: there is not enough beer to ge me ub3r drunk.

but i still need sex. nO this sucks this can';t be right i feel like i am in another world

wich i proberly am. sucks monkey
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Flipside on June 30, 2004, 05:08:58 pm: :lol:
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: aldo_14 on June 30, 2004, 05:08:59 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Darkage

but i still need sex.

. sucks monkey

You must be desperate
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: GT-Keravnos on June 30, 2004, 05:31:57 pm: Ok, people now it is us Greeks against the Czechs. If we play like the Dutch did, we will be KO'ed and we will probably deserve it.

Although, I have to admit... I would be rooting for the Czechs had Greece not made it thus far... Which I still think it is a lie, if you ask me...

But then... We got 90 more minutes till we 're eliminated. And if we pass 90 min more till we lose the final, which we may win as well... Who knows? I 've been wrong so many times this Euro cup that I might as well be a sport paper writer. :D
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: GT-Keravnos on June 30, 2004, 06:18:17 pm: Congrats to Portugal, they were the better team by a longshot, and despite scholari!
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Darkage on July 01, 2004, 03:17:19 am: Quote
Originally posted by aldo_14

You must be desperate

:nervous:

i.....erm can't.......remember i erm....said that.

damn...nah i am fine not desperate:D
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: mitac on July 01, 2004, 06:01:18 am: Well, I am a sore loser. Therefore :

Schade Holland, alles ist vorbei!

:D

Well, Portugal indeed deserved to win. Concerning tonight's match : I sure would like to see the Greek win, as a part of the "David vs. Goliath"-theme, but I strongly doubt it. The czech team sure has earned the finals.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on July 01, 2004, 06:03:43 am: Quote
Originally posted by mitac
Schade Holland, alles ist vorbei!

Well, we made it to the semi-finals and you didn't so don't come and make fun of us. :lol: At least we're third :D

(Unless you aren't from Germany or any other country that didn't make it as far :p)
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: mitac on July 01, 2004, 06:10:29 am: In fact, I am from Germany.

Just couldn't resist - no offense. ;)
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on July 01, 2004, 06:17:09 am: Quote
Originally posted by mitac
In fact, I am from Germany.

Just couldn't resist - no offense. ;)

So, you're from that one country that couldn't even win from the Czech B-team? hmm... You're from that oe country that couldn't even win from Latvia? Ow yeah, you're SOOO much better. :rolleyes:

Sorry, just couldn't resist - no offense. :D;)
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Nico on July 01, 2004, 08:12:54 am: You're a ***** touchy theses days, mrs T... Periods?
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: TopAce on July 01, 2004, 08:16:31 am: Quote
Originally posted by Tiara

So, you're from that one country that couldn't even win from the Czech B-team? ...

And Hungary beated Germany as well. Ha! One success that was needed.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on July 01, 2004, 08:16:49 am: Quote
Originally posted by Nico
You're a ***** touchy theses days, mrs T... Periods?

No, I am a *****. I thought you knew that by now? :D:p:D
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on July 01, 2004, 08:18:43 am: Quote
Originally posted by TopAce

And Hungary beated Germany as well. Ha! One success that was needed.

And they lost 4-0 to Romania as well ;):p
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: mitac on July 01, 2004, 08:45:20 am: No, of course we are no better. I didn't write that, if I may suggest reading my post again. ;) Yet, as I saw on a german TV show yesterday : "No, dear people from Holland, we're not celebrating that you're out of the Euro; we're rather celebrating that you made it this far." That has nothing to do with offending anyone, but with the joy of having good neighbors sharing the fate. ;)

Though, I'm very concerned what will happen in the future, since former Bayern Munich trainer Hitzfeld declined the offer to become coach of the german team. :rolleyes:

In the bottom of the line : no offense. :p
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on July 01, 2004, 08:48:29 am: Quote
Originally posted by mitac
In the bottom of the line : no offense. :p

Ow, I know :p It's just that... well, I'm a ***** you know. So i always have to have the last word ;)

:p
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: mitac on July 01, 2004, 08:55:23 am: I see.

:D

BTW, is Advocaat going to stay coach for Holland?
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on July 01, 2004, 09:16:38 am: Quote
Originally posted by mitac

BTW, is Advocaat going to stay coach for Holland?

I certainly hope not. He might've made it to the semi-finals but he didn't do a real good job with the team itself. It was more luck then actual skill that got us this far. :doubt:
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: kasperl on July 01, 2004, 09:43:59 am: BTW, what was with Bak-elende taking some note about killing/firing Advocaat to far and making speeches? I caught a bit of it, but the moment I saw Harry's face I changed the channel......
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: TopAce on July 01, 2004, 01:06:21 pm: Quote
Originally posted by mitac
...
BTW, is Advocaat going to stay coach for Holland?

I haven't heard any official news on this, so it looks like he stays with the Netherlands. If he decided to dscontinue(I may use the wrong word), we would have already heard of it.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: aldo_14 on July 01, 2004, 01:22:34 pm: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/euro_2004/holland/3855245.stm
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: TopAce on July 01, 2004, 01:24:47 pm: It is still unknown if he stays.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: aldo_14 on July 01, 2004, 01:32:12 pm: Quote
Originally posted by TopAce
It is still unknown if he stays.

Yes, but it is official news.

The Dutch FA will make an announcement next week. so we wait till then. Simpleton
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: TopAce on July 01, 2004, 02:34:44 pm: Quote
Originally posted by aldo_14

Yes, but it is official news.
...

I don't doubt it.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Rictor on July 01, 2004, 03:09:31 pm: alright, so far Greece seems to be holding their own. True, the Czechs are playing more offensively, but so far its still nil-nil (its around 70th minute)

*crosses fingers*

cmoncmoncmoncmon, don't fail me now.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: TopAce on July 01, 2004, 03:11:39 pm: There will be a penalty duel. I predict.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Stunaep on July 01, 2004, 03:38:52 pm: dude, things may even work out this time. I wouldn't bet on penalties though, the greeks look like they don't have the power to last out that long. Their chance is a quick strike during the first 15 minutes, otherwise, things'll get rough for them.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: mitac on July 01, 2004, 03:43:13 pm: Well, looks like the Greeks are once again up for a surprise. Extra time against the Czechs, that's quite an acomplishment.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Stunaep on July 01, 2004, 03:47:05 pm: considering, that the czechs have yet to lose, that's mighy impressive. I'd love to see the greeks in the final. They'd certainly beat the crap out of the portuguese.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Ghostavo on July 01, 2004, 03:56:58 pm: Looks like it going to be Greece - Portugal in the Final :D

This is truly the strangest Euro I have heard of :p
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Stunaep on July 01, 2004, 03:57:33 pm: Dude! Yes! Greece is so winner!
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: mitac on July 01, 2004, 04:02:18 pm: Unbelievable! :eek2:
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Post by: Rictor on July 01, 2004, 04:07:01 pm: Last ****ing minute!

That was amazing. They sucked for 90 minutes and then got 3 amazing chances in overtime.

Go Greece!
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: TopAce on July 01, 2004, 04:23:02 pm: My predictions are false again. :D
I predict the Portugese to win, because the Greeks will.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Stunaep on July 01, 2004, 04:28:24 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Rictor
Last ****ing minute!

That was amazing. They sucked for 90 minutes and then got 3 amazing chances in overtime.

Go Greece!

What do you mean they sucked? They did great! Against a team, who had yet to lose.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: wojta on July 01, 2004, 04:50:09 pm: tudududum :(
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Post by: TopAce on July 02, 2004, 04:50:07 am: Quote
Originally posted by wojta
tudududum :(

After taking a look at your location, all I can say is : [glow=red]SORRY![/glow]
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Tiara on July 02, 2004, 05:11:32 am: Damn, I was rooting for the Czechs! Well, at least I hope the Greeks will win from Portugal :p
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Rictor on July 02, 2004, 11:30:35 pm: Tommorow, I'm going to watch the finals with my brother and my Greek friend who is really into soccer. We're probably going downtown to Danforth, which is the Greektown in Toronto. Gonna be lots of crazy Greeks, probably lots of crazy Portugese nearby also, and me in the middle. In other words, lots of fun. :D:D

edit: One of the advantages of living in such a diverse town is that you can actually get both sides in close proximity to each other. If you're living pretty much anywhere else in the world, there isn't likely to be large numbers of both Greeks and Portugese.
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Post by: Ghostavo on July 03, 2004, 02:55:53 am: Unless you are in the hosting country :nervous:
Tomorrow is going to be a great day, whom ever may win. Each team never made it this far before (that I know of), so this should be really interesting. This is also going to be the first time the two countries that started the Euro are also going to finish it! :D

P.S.
Oh, and please write portuguese, it sounds like G not like J :doubt:
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: TopAce on July 04, 2004, 01:43:47 pm: Final starting now ...
I think the Greeks will win.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: 01010 on July 04, 2004, 03:17:57 pm: I hope the Greeks win.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: CmdKewin on July 04, 2004, 03:39:47 pm: And the winner iiiis....

Greece :D Well done.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: Ghostavo on July 04, 2004, 03:41:42 pm: Greece won :D

They deserved it after beating France and the Czechs.
And so ends this great tournament. Congratulations to the Greeks, the new European Champion, and all countries for participating. Hope we see again in 4 years. :nervous:
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Post by: Tiara on July 04, 2004, 03:48:13 pm: Ay, this was certainly a big sensation! After defeating Portugal, France, the Czechs and Portugal again they certainly deserved it!

Congrats Greece!

(on a level I already expected it after their recent astounding victories :p)
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Post by: aldo_14 on July 04, 2004, 04:19:45 pm: Astonishing.

wish i had a fiver on Greece.....
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: 01010 on July 04, 2004, 06:16:47 pm: I'm glad for them, it's nice to see the underdogs putting the bigger names to shame for once.
Title: Did we Greeks just get the Euro 2004?
Post by: GT-Keravnos on July 04, 2004, 07:25:19 pm: For A = 1 to 100
A= otto rehagel, thank you for making us Proud!
next A

GT-Keravnos, so proud right now that I can't find anything else to say. Just this. Ghostavo, I wish there was a way for both teams to get it, Portugal played well. As a host nation, Euro 2004 was fantastic, I hope we can be half as good in Athens in 40 days.

Although, I must tell you, we Greeks right now, don't really care about the Olympics. :) Don't blame us.

Tommorow I am working and I will be missing the celebrations concerning the Homecoming of the Heroes. DAMN!!!
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Post by: Ghostavo on July 04, 2004, 07:36:57 pm: Don't worry :D I got my share of luck this year and last year (FC Porto). Now I want you to do that again in two years in the World Cup :p

Now, go have fun with your friends ;) you've deserved it.
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Post by: Rictor on July 04, 2004, 11:56:54 pm: I can't even tell you what a great time I had. Me and my brother met up with my Greek friend in downtown Toronto, went to the greek neightborhood (Danforth), watched the whole thing in a Greek bar and then went and partied on the streets for like 3 or 4 hours.

So I'm not Greek, who cares, its was awesome. The street was packed, in places you could barely move. We climbed on icecream vans, climbed on top of a building until the cops came and told us we had to get down, several firecrackers, fireworks, a few flares (on of them went in my face, I was like 2m away). I estimate over 20,000 people, though it could have been significantly more.

Damn I love football, too bad Yugoslavia never wins anything. Oh well, Olypmic Basketball is only a month or so away.
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Post by: mitac on July 05, 2004, 02:47:27 am: That was truly awesome. Yesterday, I never got the impression the Portuguese were ever in control of the match, the Greek were just brilliant in terms of tactic and teamplay.

And the bottom of the line - offense wins matches, defense wins championships. I guess yesterday everybody was "greek", except for the people from Portugal or Turkey, perhaps. ;)
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Post by: TopAce on July 05, 2004, 05:34:50 am: Quote
Originally posted by TopAce
...
I think the Greeks will win.

There was something in the background when I told this:
I kept my fingers crossed for Portugal, I better liked them. But I told I think the Greeks would win just to have something good for me in either case. The Greeks won, I would have preferred if the Portugese did, but at least my predictions became true once in this thread. :)
Congratulations Greece! You have shown you need no soldiers to conquer europe.
I think the Netherlands will win Euro2008. I am saying this because by the time the Euro2008 final ends, nobody will remember what I had told. :D
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Post by: mitac on July 05, 2004, 06:54:15 am: Quote
Originally posted by TopAce

I think the Netherlands will win Euro2008. I am saying this because by the time the Euro2008 final ends, nobody will remember what I had told. :D

Don't count on that. ;7
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: TopAce on July 05, 2004, 11:29:27 am: I do not count on it. I count on papers.
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Post by: aldo_14 on July 05, 2004, 12:32:07 pm: Quote
Originally posted by TopAce
I do not count on it. I count on papers.

I wasn't aware you had a sideline working as a newspaper pundit:wtf:
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: TopAce on July 05, 2004, 04:10:49 pm: You can't see the point, can you?
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: aldo_14 on July 05, 2004, 04:12:40 pm: Quote
Originally posted by TopAce
You can't see the point, can you?

Hmm. Maybe. Or Maybe not. Or maybe yes.

Do you have a point? I don't know.
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Post by: TopAce on July 06, 2004, 09:24:09 am: Not really. I only wanted to shoot a cheap joke.
Title: Euro 2004 tomorrow
Post by: GT-Keravnos on July 07, 2004, 08:08:21 am: You have shown you need no soldiers to conquer europe... as said by Top Ace...

You know what... Thank You! This is the best thing I have seen and read, and believe me I have read a lot about the fairy tale we all Greeks are living in, since, in any way it cannot ever repeat itself. Either it won't happen, or we will have greater expectations, thus it won't be as surprising.

Well, it all has to end I guess, I just can't seem to fathom it that's all.