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Title: Enterprise: Braga takes a step back
Post by: J3Vr6 on June 12, 2004, 12:22:40 am
http://www.cinescape.com/0/editorial.asp?aff_id=0&this_cat=Television&action=page&type_id=&cat_id=270355&obj_id=41801


U guys were saying this is a good thing, right?  I see the guy they're replacing him with actually wrote some of this seasons episodes...
Title: Enterprise: Braga takes a step back
Post by: Knight Templar on June 12, 2004, 12:43:18 am
Actually, this is old news, sort of.

No doubt Enterprise's recent l33tness (minus the nazis) can be traced to this.
Title: Enterprise: Braga takes a step back
Post by: J3Vr6 on June 14, 2004, 01:36:06 pm
Actually, before this it was only rumors :D
Title: Enterprise: Braga takes a step back
Post by: Knight Templar on June 14, 2004, 01:37:09 pm
Oh.. okay.
Title: Enterprise: Braga takes a step back
Post by: ZylonBane on June 14, 2004, 01:48:04 pm
Is "showrunner" actual britspeak for "producer", or is that just tabloidese?
Title: Enterprise: Braga takes a step back
Post by: Stunaep on June 14, 2004, 01:55:52 pm
Well, now, that's good news. Would've been great news if he had done that like 7 years ago, but still, better late than never. Manny Coto seems a competent enough guy to make the show watchable again, so, I may actually give it a shot next season.
Title: Enterprise: Braga takes a step back
Post by: J3Vr6 on June 14, 2004, 02:16:53 pm
why do u guys not like braga so much?
Title: Enterprise: Braga takes a step back
Post by: Tiara on June 14, 2004, 02:59:26 pm
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Originally posted by J3Vr6
why do u guys not like braga so much?

Have you not seen Voyager? :doubt:
Title: Enterprise: Braga takes a step back
Post by: J3Vr6 on June 14, 2004, 03:05:27 pm
Um, I think we already established that I know about as much about the ST universe as I do about how glue is made out of horses...
Title: Enterprise: Braga takes a step back
Post by: Knight Templar on June 14, 2004, 03:24:44 pm
The answer is still Voyager.
Title: Enterprise: Braga takes a step back
Post by: J3Vr6 on June 14, 2004, 03:32:09 pm
All I know is that I turned on the tv once and there were 3 little borg kids (or I think they used to be) running around the space ship.  I was like, "Huh? when did THAT happen?"
Title: Enterprise: Braga takes a step back
Post by: Knight Templar on June 14, 2004, 03:37:42 pm
When they found a Broken Borg Cube with only five drones on it and decided to adopt the kids...
Title: Enterprise: Braga takes a step back
Post by: J3Vr6 on June 14, 2004, 03:44:17 pm
Was Braga on DS9 or Next Generation?
Title: Enterprise: Braga takes a step back
Post by: aldo_14 on June 14, 2004, 03:46:22 pm
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Originally posted by ZylonBane
Is "showrunner" actual britspeak for "producer", or is that just tabloidese?


no.  and it doesn't appear to have been quoted from a Brit either, so I'm not sure where you're getting that from.
Title: Enterprise: Braga takes a step back
Post by: Carl on June 14, 2004, 04:25:55 pm
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Originally posted by J3Vr6
Was Braga on DS9 or Next Generation?


yes.
Title: Enterprise: Braga takes a step back
Post by: J3Vr6 on June 14, 2004, 04:55:19 pm
So then he can't be so bad cuz you guys practically come anytime someone mentions DS9...
Title: Enterprise: Braga takes a step back
Post by: Kazan on June 14, 2004, 05:22:49 pm
"cum" not "come" when in reference to having an orgasm and emitting semen
Title: wow
Post by: Star Dragon on June 14, 2004, 05:24:48 pm
you got issues...

BTW can you say DS9 again? I didn't quite finish...

   ;7
Title: Enterprise: Braga takes a step back
Post by: J3Vr6 on June 14, 2004, 06:31:11 pm
DS9

DS9

Done yet?

DS9

Anyway, so why was he so good for ds9 and so bad for voyager?
Title: Enterprise: Braga takes a step back
Post by: ZylonBane on June 14, 2004, 06:32:33 pm
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Originally posted by aldo_14
no.  and it doesn't appear to have been quoted from a Brit either, so I'm not sure where you're getting that from.


Probably this bit:
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Source: SFX, BBC, Trek Today

Although a bit of Googling reveals that it's actually one of those freaky industry terms which they've thankfully kept to themselves.
Title: Enterprise: Braga takes a step back
Post by: Knight Templar on June 14, 2004, 06:32:49 pm
Because DS9 was good. And Voyager was bad. You wouldn't understand fully either way, unless you saw both shows.

Now go out into the real world, and find them on DVD somewhere.
Title: Enterprise: Braga takes a step back
Post by: aldo_14 on June 14, 2004, 06:33:40 pm
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Originally posted by ZylonBane


Probably this bit:

Although a bit of Googling reveals that it's actually one of those freaky industry terms which they've thankfully kept to themselves.


I know, but the term was written only on cinescape and some trek site, which both had .com  on the end and thus were likely US-based. (i.e. not a quote from the beeb).
Title: frankly
Post by: Star Dragon on June 14, 2004, 10:01:44 pm
I'm not sure WHEN Gene died, But he had gotten TNG off the ground first (and created scripts for many other projects that later took off like Earth Final Conflict, and Andromeda).  When he died you could tell how not only control of the show, but it's very feel changed... B & B seem to treat the whole Trek franchise as nothing but a $ maker. Remember they had the final say on scripts (unless Majel butted in) and many times continuity was thrown out the window. Things got worse as time went on DS9 had some very good moments, as well as ****ty ones. Later Voyager suffered as well adn had IMHO a lot fewer good episodes as plots were becomming overused and tiresome.

   Now the final straw with Enterprise. Maybe this is where they thought "Ok NOW we can get creative and show how brilliant we are!"

  WRONG!

  Enterprise is a PREQUEL if you F up this continuity you basicly throw the rest of Trek out the window and alienate us legion of fans...  I have to stop now I am ranting... :nod:
Title: Enterprise: Braga takes a step back
Post by: TrashMan on June 15, 2004, 08:02:35 am
I agree...

TNG rocks, DS9 sucks, VOY super-sucks!
Title: Enterprise: Braga takes a step back
Post by: ZylonBane on June 15, 2004, 09:49:20 am
Fool. DS9 is the best post-TOS Trek of all! Aside from Patrick Stewart, most of TNG's primary cast couldn't act their way out of a paper bag.
Title: Enterprise: Braga takes a step back
Post by: J3Vr6 on June 15, 2004, 09:52:23 am
lol what was the name of that red headed ladies son?  She was like the doctor on one of the ST shows and her son in the show was the worst actor, I think it was Next Generation... Years later I saw him on a video game channel (G4) doing reviews for games.
Title: Enterprise: Braga takes a step back
Post by: Grey Wolf on June 15, 2004, 09:53:20 am
Roddenberry died before Season 4 of TNG, IIRC.

On Patrick Stewart: Beware - Unkown British Shakespearean Actor.
(That's a quote, actually)
Title: Enterprise: Braga takes a step back
Post by: Liberator on June 15, 2004, 01:45:37 pm
He wasn't unknown.  He was in Dune a few year before TNG got started.

He's kind of a conundrum anyway.  I mean here's this ACTOR who was doing Shakespeare for Her Majesty and he decides to punt it all away and has since become a Sci Fi Icon by portraying both Picard and Professor X.
Title: Enterprise: Braga takes a step back
Post by: J3Vr6 on June 15, 2004, 01:51:48 pm
Punt it all away?  Are you mad?  He is established and respected the world over.  U think it was a bad career move, but his stint in ST opened up doors and possibillities probably not accessilbe to him before.
Title: Enterprise: Braga takes a step back
Post by: Grey Wolf on June 15, 2004, 03:19:32 pm
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Originally posted by Liberator
He wasn't unknown.  He was in Dune a few year before TNG got started.

He's kind of a conundrum anyway.  I mean here's this ACTOR who was doing Shakespeare for Her Majesty and he decides to punt it all away and has since become a Sci Fi Icon by portraying both Picard and Professor X.
That's actually from a sign that he had on the door of his trailer throughout the filming of the entire series :p
Title: name that boy!
Post by: Star Dragon on June 15, 2004, 05:33:14 pm
ops (ignore) double post and it wouldn't let me delete it! No permission..
Title: name that boy!
Post by: Star Dragon on June 15, 2004, 05:34:15 pm
It was actor Wil Wheaton (first Stand by me - SK's 'The body', most recent PYTHON! With Casper -The freindly ghost - VanDien and FEDDY - Robert Englund). He played Crewboy (and later Ensign) Wesley Crusher.

  The funny/tragic thing was they got his butt for Nemisis and he spent 3 days shooting for that wedding reception scene and he actually ahd lines and **** then they decide (most likely B&B) to delete it all and just have him visible for like 3 secs as people dance by the actors forcused in the shot around a table or some crap like that... WTF?  I mean WHY go to all that F-ing trouble the time money ect. If you didn't want him in the first place? GOD I hate stupid **** like that. Wheaton explained this story on an interview about 6 months after nemisis came out cause a fan asked the question of why we didn't see more of him.

  BTW WHO cane up with the brilliant Kirk halo jumping scene that was deleted from Generations? God this was so lame I am actually GLAD they deleted it! If you never found it online the scene begins with a man in freefall way up in the atmosphere (obviously with some HALO gear) and eventually he gets close enough to the ground and pops his shute. Chekov and Scotty rode a vehicle to the landing area in a field and are lokking up at the sky saying, "Can ya see him?". Then when he makes a decent landing and takes off his helmet you see it was Kirk (gee he drank his Ensure today huh?). :lol:
Title: Enterprise: Braga takes a step back
Post by: Grey Wolf on June 15, 2004, 07:25:30 pm
That scene was in the novelization, IIRC.